I'm new to these forums and android and I've got a few questions about apps running and opening in the background. I'm running a samsung captivate i896 rooted with the ryanza lag fix.
First I've noticed that some apps that I haven't opened appear in the app 'advanced task killer'. However when I use the 'task manager' app that comes preinstalled on the phone, those apps do not show up. The only apps that show up on this app are the ones that I explicitly open. Do these apps that open by themselves effect the battery life and if so is there anyway I can prevent these apps from opening?
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Yes it does. Certainly it will effect your battery life because of stuff running around in the background. Try looking for start-up manager and you can prevent them from opening. Not sure if it is really useful though. Because usually when that app start, they have some task to do like updating then they will lie dormant in the memory.
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is there any honeycomb friendly task manager or stock tracking Widgets?
I like to put them on the home screen but the ones I found are quite small for use on tablets.
I have never used a stock widget. As for the task manager, you don't need one. Android manages task on its own. If you happen to get a stuck app, go to settings, apps, manage apps, then find the app and stop it.
bwcorvus said:
I have never used a stock widget. As for the task manager, you don't need one. Android manages task on its own. If you happen to get a stuck app, go to settings, apps, manage apps, then find the app and stop it.
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I know that's the argument about android task manage in a perfect world.
However, in actual usage I get STUCKED apps all the time. For example, if I don't disconnect from team viewer before jumping to another it gets stuck... This make it very cumbersome to go to settings app all the time.
I really need something on the home screen to kill these sticker apps.
Lolento said:
I know that's the argument about android task manage in a perfect world.
However, in actual usage I get STUCKED apps all the time. For example, if I don't disconnect from team viewer before jumping to another it gets stuck... This make it very cumbersome to go to settings app all the time.
I really need something on the home screen to kill these sticker apps.
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Use Active Apps. It doesn't manage or autokill, just a widget that gives you a list of running apps and lets you close one or all with a single button. Very easy.
As for a stock ticker widget....I would love to find one too. Can't imagine there isn't one out there somewhere.
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so i'm using an advance task killer (blue icon) and whenever i end all open apps
it tells me "advanced task killer ended "x" apps" but all the apps remain open in the recent app window in their current state..
is there an alternative way to remove the apps from the recent menu all at once?
i'm new to honeycomb..
Get rid of the Task killer imo
baseballfanz said:
Get rid of the Task killer imo
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
avpmusic said:
okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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I use Active Apps & Watchdog to kill apps. Both in the market.
It's a Recent Apps list. Not a running in the background list.
All Android since 1.0 (T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone), there's been a recent app list. You press and hold the Home button. On Android 3.0 for tablets, there is a dedicated button.
In Android 3.1, the recent app list has been extended to more than 5 shown. It's now 14/15
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
Hakizi said:
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
life64x said:
How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
jadesse said:
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
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+1 for this
avpmusic said:
okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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An "app" called Android. Honeycomb caches and/or kills apps on its own. Try it without the killer. Start angry birds, exit and then go back....
So what is a GOOD and FUNCTIONING Task Manager app for the HoneyComb platform? I am using ZDBOX for my Thunderbolt, but it is NOT compatible with HoneyComb.
I use Task Manager to monitor which apps is USING too much battery, not killing them. It's must faster to use this type of app than going to Settings -> Applications and wait for the apps to be listed.
For example, I use ZDBOX in my Thunderbolt and notice that Skype is running in the background ALL THE TIME, using 11 to 25 Mb even when I am not using it for the whole day. Battery life begun to suffer, so I uninstall it.
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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Hakizi said:
I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
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Must not be playing much flash. That eats it up.
watchdog not only will let you kill apps but tell you if any are overachivers
if things get out of hand press and hold the power button for a clean restart
I think if you go through settings and look for running apps, you can kill them. You app murderer.
franky1029 said:
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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That's why I need a Task Killer: to kill those poor-behaving apps. I don't use the Task Killer very often, though.
For example: I use an app called Flight Track. I don't fly very often, but I do fly more than average (once to twice a month, sometimes none in a month). This app is running in the background ALL the time. But on months I don't fly, I do not need this app to run in the background. So I kill the app and it does NOT start again in the background until I manually start the app.
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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sweetboy02125 said:
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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I'm using Go Launcher. It has a built in task manager that also allows you to lock app so you don't close them by accident. Have my Widget Locker app Locked. Hope this helps also. And I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
hkeyman said:
Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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+1, well said.
bigfau said:
I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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I think it's in the right section (Themes & Apps).
Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
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I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
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Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
Entropy512 said:
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
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I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
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There is a task manager in your mini app tray.
SPEED UP PHONE AND BOOST PERFORMANCE. On the new ics leak.
You must be rooted to do some of these tweeks..
1. Use titanium backup or the app of your choice to freeze or uninstall unwanted or misbehaving apps. You can find a list of apps that come preinstalled (bloatware) that is known to be safe to freeze or uninstall by searching the dev section.
2. Uninstall any and all task killers or task managers. After research I find they do more harm and slow down performance and kill battery life than they help. By freezing or uninstalling misbehaving apps in step one you don't have to worry about apps running in the background eating up your data. And besides ics has a really nice data manager built in.
3. Install apex launcher from the market. I can't explain why but using this launcher with ics instead of the stock tw launcher sped my phone up considerably and totally eliminated that little bit of lag that was in it when exiting apps and scrolling screens. Not to mention apex has a lot of freeking really cool features you can't do with the stock tw launcher. Like add another shortcut icon on the dock bar and the ability to scroll 5 dock bars full of shortcuts you can add. And the home screen allows for another whole row of icons and much much more. But best of it made my phone ALOT FREAKIN FASTER....
BATTERY DRAIN ISSUES.
I found going from gingerbread to ics was a bigger strain on my battery a way bigger strain. So far this trick has helped a lot but I'm still looking for other ways to go with this to improve it even more. So if you have any tricks up your sleeve feel free to post please. So here is what I've found so far...
I used rom manager from the market but I'm sure there are other free apps that can do this again far as I know you need to be rooted to do this...
1. Wipe battery stats. After installing any new rom or even updating an existing you should always wipe battery stats. This helped my phone tremendousley.
2. Find a app that monitors your battery stats. I use badass battery monitory. I don't like the name but it will tell you which apps are draining your battery and allow you to make necasarry changes. There is a free version on the market but I'm using the paid one.
I posted this info I've learned to maybe help someone else. It helped my phone a bunch but each phone is different and what works for one may not for another so I make no guarantees. For info on rooting see the link at the beginning of this thread it worked for me. Anyone that has learned other tweaks please post. And if this is in the wrong section I'm sorry. I just started using the app and not my pc to access xda and I'm trying to figure the app out still which is laid out weird and the search option just plain sux...
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Why spam the forum with this in every section. Just put it in the battery stats thread
Because when I put it one section somebody says no put it there then I put there and someone says no put it there.. geez I put here and I'm trying to figure out how to remove it from the other section so give me a minute
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Wiping stats is a myth
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all of this is known info, and is incorporated i to pretty mch every custom rom. I highly recommend people stay away from. the oneclick ics, but this is still good work op, thanx.
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SPEED UP PHONE AND BOOST PERFORMANCE. On the new ics leak.
You must be rooted to do some of these tweeks..
1. Use titanium backup or the app of your choice to freeze or uninstall unwanted or misbehaving apps. You can find a list of apps that come preinstalled (bloatware) that is known to be safe to freeze or uninstall by searching the dev section.
2. Uninstall any and all task killers or task managers. After research I find they do more harm and slow down performance and kill battery life than they help. By freezing or uninstalling misbehaving apps in step one you don't have to worry about apps running in the background eating up your data. And besides ics has a really nice data manager built in.
3. Install apex launcher from the market. I can't explain why but using this launcher with ics instead of the stock tw launcher sped my phone up considerably and totally eliminated that little bit of lag that was in it when exiting apps and scrolling screens. Not to mention apex has a lot of freeking really cool features you can't do with the stock tw launcher. Like add another shortcut icon on the dock bar and the ability to scroll 5 dock bars full of shortcuts you can add. And the home screen allows for another whole row of icons and much much more. But best of it made my phone ALOT FREAKIN FASTER....
BATTERY DRAIN ISSUES.
I found going from gingerbread to ics was a bigger strain on my battery a way bigger strain. So far this trick has helped a lot but I'm still looking for other ways to go with this to improve it even more. So if you have any tricks up your sleeve feel free to post please. So here is what I've found so far...
I used rom manager from the market but I'm sure there are other free apps that can do this again far as I know you need to be rooted to do this...
1. Wipe battery stats. After installing any new rom or even updating an existing you should always wipe battery stats. This helped my phone tremendousley.
2. Find a app that monitors your battery stats. I use badass battery monitory. I don't like the name but it will tell you which apps are draining your battery and allow you to make necasarry changes. There is a free version on the market but I'm using the paid one.
I posted this info I've learned to maybe help someone else. It helped my phone a bunch but each phone is different and what works for one may not for another so I make no guarantees. For info on rooting see the link at the beginning of this thread it worked for me. Anyone that has learned other tweaks please post. And if this is in the wrong section I'm sorry. I just started using the app and not my pc to access xda and I'm trying to figure the app out still which is laid out weird and the search option just plain sux...
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Are you using any battery saving apps?
and also ICS task manager does not do anything when you swipe the apps of, I am using 360 Launcher it's as smooth as ever, it has build in cleaner that brings the memory usage to 29-31% that is with major apps I use excluded from clean. On the other hand not using anything will have your ROM running at about 380M at boot and 450M+ then on after you use something, even after freezing things.
P.S. I agree not using another task killers, but the one in 360 it's just like the build in one in the ROM, when you press clean memory, just has a widget.
! One more suggestion, using System Turner or Rom Toolbox, remove apps from start up, that you don;t need at boot.
When I said task killers of course i meant those you download from the market not the stock one on the phone. Sorry of I confused anyone but I did not remove the stock one but the two I had downloaded and installed from the market. I have rom manager and I'll try that tip thanks and sorry for the confusion
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