Any idea with that OTA update does? - myTouch 4G General

HI guys, just wondering if anyone knows with that firmware update does. I've searched and it seems like not a whole lot of people know but are updating anyway. I'm sort of reluctant on installing it because I plan to root and use a custom ROM when the dev teams catch up.
After using MIUI on the N1, I'm not too impressed with the performance with this phone, but I know the potential is much higher with the gen 2 snapdragon, more ram, and internal storage. I can't wait to see what people cook up for this phone.
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
Thanks!

skyungjae said:
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
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I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?

Noyabronok said:
I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
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I remember doing that with my G1 too, and I'd rather avoid that extra step.

This update was mainly to improve Qik reliability and choppyness. This from the head of HTC Northeast, who randomly walked into the Tmo store while I was there.
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Noyabronok said:
I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
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No - newer HTC devices check both the signature and version. So, no downgrades will be possible unless an exploit is found that allows us to bypass these checks.

Also there were kernel changes AFAIK. This is pretty evident in the performance of the device... the update contains the full production firmware, they launched with development release onboard
Also the update brought tmo the ability to control tethering...
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skyungjae said:
HI guys, just wondering if anyone knows with that firmware update does. I've searched and it seems like not a whole lot of people know but are updating anyway. I'm sort of reluctant on installing it because I plan to root and use a custom ROM when the dev teams catch up.
After using MIUI on the N1, I'm not too impressed with the performance with this phone, but I know the potential is much higher with the gen 2 snapdragon, more ram, and internal storage. I can't wait to see what people cook up for this phone.
Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.
Thanks!
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I had the same thoughts. I remember thinking that it would probably be easier to root later on without that update, but the popup wouldn't go away. Oh well...
ESKIMOn00b said:
Also there were kernel changes AFAIK. This is pretty evident in the performance of the device... the update contains the full production firmware, they launched with development release onboard
Also the update brought tmo the ability to control tethering...
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Yeah I heard they're going to charge for tethering now. F that!

15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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ESKIMOn00b said:
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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So PDANet should still work?

AFAIK
Works ok on evo
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HamNCheese said:
No - newer HTC devices check both the signature and version. So, no downgrades will be possible unless an exploit is found that allows us to bypass these checks.
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Like the exploit here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832642

ESKIMOn00b said:
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
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How will they be able to control tethering on the native tethering phones, and will the temp rooted devices still be able to tether if they have the Recent ROM update?

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[UPDATE 11.22]2.32.651.2-rootable!! + info-

2.32.651.2 is available. I got a new hero today and updated OTA to the new software. then I applied this root method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
ive been deleting much bloat. the update has a new baseband, new software, new PRI. kernel is the same. im sure theres more that i dont know about.
This update makes it feel fast and responsive. To me-a little smoother than the last .7 official.
sprint zone is in here...SprintZone.apk
I havent flashed clockwork yet but i intend to...right now
tailsthecat3 said:
2.32.651.2 is available. Im getting a new hero today and was wondering if this version has been rooted or if anyone has it extracted for manual application?
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sorry i can't tell you one or the other; however, i was curious why you're jumping on a hero instead of something like the lg optimus s which is cheaper and has gotten great reviews?
one obvious negative of picking another device is that the community isn't quite there for it yet, but... i know it is rooted at least.
also, if it's a matter of price, two of my brothers ordered their evo's from this site:
http://ordersprint.cellbenefits.com/ind/sprint/devices.html
the prices seem unreal, to be honest. but it might be worth looking at what they have available. much cheaper than direct from sprint and the lg ends up being $50 in your pocket after contract, rebates, and/or giftcards.
anyway, just a thought. i do love my hero, but this late in the game, i'd be looking to snag a slightly more modern device. or, maybe you could find one to buy from people in the forum. i know a lot of people have been upgrading recently (i'm up in a week or so, but plan to wait until after ces before i buy a new phone).
sorry for the off-topic question!
/rant
they replaced my hero with a new one
UPDATE
Updated op
Ah.. I see.
Well, thanks for the update. Good to know that root is still available!
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i flashed nfinite's .7 update 3.1 odex version after all that. device retained the baseband and pri versions. if i try the ota update to the new software, i get the triangle exclamation point. when i press menu, im at clockworks menu. id like to have the latest software but a new baseband is good too.
Any way to get the update other than OTA?
I'd like to have the new PRL and Baseband as I run CM.
Thanks.
Gelladuga69 said:
Any way to get the update other than OTA?
I'd like to have the new PRL and Baseband as I run CM.
Thanks.
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prolly not until someone extracts it. i dont know much about it.
I knew about 2.31.651.7 OTA, but didn't realize there was another. I am still running .6 with an odexed basically stock ROM (see sig).
So, really better performance, or just a bit? Any difference on mflops, or other specifics?
mtnchkn said:
I knew about 2.31.651.7 OTA, but didn't realize there was another. I am still running .6 with an odexed basically stock ROM (see sig).
So, really better performance, or just a bit? Any difference on mflops, or other specifics?
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.7 is the best stock update so far and this new update seems a little more responsive.
tailsthecat3 said:
2.32.651.2 is available. I got a new hero today and updated OTA to the new software. then I applied this root method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
ive been deleting much bloat. the update has a new baseband, new software, new PRI. kernel is the same. im sure theres more that i dont know about.
This update makes it feel fast and responsive. To me-a little smoother than the last .7 official.
sprint zone is in here...SprintZone.apk
I havent flashed clockwork yet but i intend to...right now
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I have finished rooting the new update and I can say that the SuperOneClick method works as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Rom Manager went on fine too.
Edit: My bad, I lost root after booting. I will try your root method. Sorry
Getting the S-off again is now trickier due to the new radio baseband.
why not pull the update off your phone change the script a little sign and flash through recovery
so the new update is worth keeping? I was planning on rooting my device to get the wifi sharing option that 2.2 has but i wasn't thinking and let the new ota update go through the other day. the only difference i've seen is more lag and more battery usage. opinions?
The only way to get WiFi sharing on the hero is through rooting the hero does have a native usb tether but u have to pay for any data u use on it
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Super One Click
Super one click worked to root the phone after the update to HTC Hero (Sprint) Maintenance Release 2.32.651.2.
Got the download on this site, just search for the super one click method.
Thanks XDA.
So lets see if I get this right;
I'm using cm6 exblue. If I want the new baseland and prl I have to go back to stock sense unroot apply the update and then root again with super1click and flash my cm6 backup. Is that how it goes?
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coki80 said:
So lets see if I get this right;
I'm using cm6 exblue. If I want the new baseland and prl I have to go back to stock sense unroot apply the update and then root again with super1click and flash my cm6 backup. Is that how it goes?
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no. you can flash the radio through either s-off bootloader or recovery, and there isn't a new prl. 60671 is still the latest.
@hotaru do I flash it as I would a rom? Thnx.
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coki80 said:
@hotaru do I flash it as I would a rom? Thnx.
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yes... as long as you're not using firerat's custom mtd partitions thing.
No I'm not using it. Thanx for the reply.
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Rooting?

Does rooting reduce battery life? I'm not going to install a custom rom. Just get rid of some bloatware?
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it does not affect battery. it just allows certain apps more access to the internals of the system/kernel
doesnt drain battery anymore than normal.
OK. Thanks for the replies. Can anyone send me a link to find the benefits of rooting apart from custom roms
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I had a htc hero and htc evo both were rooted and from my experience i was able to get better battery life with some custom roms.
sayeed91 said:
OK. Thanks for the replies. Can anyone send me a link to find the benefits of rooting apart from custom roms
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
Reasons to root:
Get the latest versions of Android on your phone before anyone else.
Try faster and more optimized versions of your phone's software.
Overclocking and underclocking your phone.
Longer battery life.
Theme your phone a lot more.
FREE Wireless Tethering.
Remove unwanted Sprint software.
ok.... i was wondering if i do an ota update will i lose root? also if i do the update will i have to wait ages before i can root again?
sayeed91 said:
ok.... i was wondering if i do an ota update will i lose root? also if i do the update will i have to wait ages before i can root again?
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from what i understand yes you can loose root and you have to wait for a dev to crack open the new ota.
js417 said:
from what i understand yes you can loose root and you have to wait for a dev to crack open the new ota.
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In most cases yes you will loose root in any OTA update so you may have to wait. Root with a custom ROM and you will not have to worry.

I just updated to 2.3.3 using htc update

May have posted but I just updated to 2.3.3 using the HTC WiFi update on the phone. I was running the stock ATT Rom
Same here it works just fine too. No issues with txt messages phone numbers nothing. Everything works
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What Radio img comes packaged in the update?
can one of you post all of the software information please
Does the OTA update wipe the phone?
Are there any negatives to this update?
struff said:
Does the OTA update wipe the phone?
Are there any negatives to this update?
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No It does not
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CAn you side load apps?
cant get it to update i go thru the htc wifi and it says phones is up to date.
you can install the new rom via pc, however doing it via pc vs ota will wipe the data on your phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209181
http://dl4.htc.com/RUU_Ace_Gingerbr...60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe
shawn1224 said:
what radio img comes packaged in the update?
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12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03
AEDan1977 said:
you can install the new rom via pc, however doing it via pc vs ota will wipe the data on your phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209181
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data like in numbers and apps? if so then ill have to wait smh
I too got the update msg canceled it bc I wanted to read up on the update. Now that I have my phone checks for update and says its up to date wtf. How do I get it back?
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What would happen if i tried the RUU on my rooted inspire? Running virtuous with eng-soff
RUU via pc of course.
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it will update your phone just as if it were not rooted.
slocav said:
Same here it works just fine too. No issues with txt messages phone numbers nothing. Everything works
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ok take that back. I do have the mms phone number issue. Great
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slocav said:
ok take that back. I do have the mms phone number issue. Great
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Its not an issue really. It is how the rest of the world sets their numbers. And lets not forget where HTC is. Your best bet is to just set up your numbers with the +1 in front like the rest of the world. They are not gonna change this for the few US based phones that come out. Oh and its ATT that is supposed to make those changes.
zelendel said:
Its not an issue really. It is how the rest of the world sets their numbers. And lets not forget where HTC is. Your best bet is to just set up your numbers with the +1 in front like the rest of the world. They are not gonna change this for the few US based phones that come out. Oh and its ATT that is supposed to make those changes.
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I'm pretty sure this doesn't fix it for everyone. (Definitely doesn't fix it for me.) Is there any other step besides adding +1?
All my contacts are +13333333333. The names eventually show up, but a reboot makes them disappear.
EDIT: I do agree though, it wouldn't be an issue otherwise.
For some reason when i do the check for updates it tells me my phone is up to date. I know i can download the update manually but i would rather not have to as it wipes my phone. Are their any solutions ?? Thank you in advance for anybody who assists me
I don't like signatures....
iswimmer97 said:
For some reason when i do the check for updates it tells me my phone is up to date. I know i can download the update manually but i would rather not have to as it wipes my phone. Are their any solutions ?? Thank you in advance for anybody who assists me
I don't like signatures....
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You can check or keep waiting. Or you can use one of the roms that are have been based on this release and been around for over a week
does it affect the wifi hotspot tethering when adding a custom APN to all who updated officially 2.3 GB?
can anyone confirm this..Thanks

To root or not to root!?

So... I used to be rooted until my old tbolts 4g data bit the dust and I had to get a replacement. I have my new tbolt in my hand as we speak but I'm faces with a dilema. Should I root or wait for stock ics Rom to he released and live with that. I've been waiting a long time for this update as I have had the tbolt for almost 2 years now. What is your guys' opinion on this. I know it would be nice to root and debloat the thing as my battery drains so quickly these days , but maybe with the promise of ics we will see improvements? Also how long before a custom Rom is released when the ota for ics hits our phones?
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
*Madmoose* said:
I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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Thanks for the response! I just know if I root I won't be able to install the ota update.... Am I wrong?
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OTA's are just patches to take you to the next level. RUU's are released at the same time (speaking specifically about ICS here). With S-Off you can do whatever you want as far as installing things. Honestly it's pretty pointless to not S-Off if it's available to your device.
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
Will the ruu install radios and changes to hboot (if there are changes to hboot)?
RUU's are EVERYTHING. OTA's are just the parts that were updated from the last version. Usually OTA's end up causing little issues here and there. The RUU's do a full install on the phone.
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
gcodori said:
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
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+1 The devs here would make a stock version that's an exact replica of it anyway.
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recDNA said:
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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If you are S-Off you can go in any direction you want to. S-On could be a problem if they patch our S-Off exploit (which i strongly doubt, but a possibility nonetheless) This is why it's pointless to have a phone without S-Off if it's available.

New software update?

I recieved a text from at&t yesterday that said there is a new software update that is critical to install.. has anyone updated this and is there anything new?
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i got the same thing, i do not plan on updating though. will most likely lock phone if not worse.
gage0727 said:
i got the same thing, i do not plan on updating though. will most likely lock phone if not worse.
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Yeah I can't anyways. I'm on a custom rom
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iblakejames said:
I recieved a text from at&t yesterday that said there is a new software update that is critical to install.. has anyone updated this and is there anything new?
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I looked at the website provided and it looks like it is just updating the .apk files. But the website does not specify the security issues for the 4 apps.
gage0727 said:
i got the same thing, i do not plan on updating though. will most likely lock phone if not worse.
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I doubt it will "lock" the phone. They are apps to install (.apk). If you are on some unlocked variant of the 3.20 ROM for the phone you should be ok. Just in case, nandroid and recover should the need present itself.
iblakejames said:
Yeah I can't anyways. I'm on a custom rom
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I am in the same position. I am running Android Revolution HD 6.4. However, since it is based on the sister phone, the DHD, I wonder if these same issues affect the DHD lines as well.
[QUOTE/]I am in the same position. I am running Android Revolution HD 6.4. However, since it is based on the sister phone, the DHD, I wonder if these same issues affect the DHD lines as well.[/QUOTE]
It probably will. This doesn't look like its an update for any based DHD Rom because the update is offered by at&t. The DHD is an international varient of the device
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