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I am hearing mixed opinions about task managers on android. I know technichally they are unnessary on froyo but if used correctly can they boost performnace and more inportantly battery life? Say I leave a game like angry birds running in the backround will it hurt my battery life or slow down my phone? Would i be better off going to a task manager and just killing it or leave it running and android take care of it. Also I would like to know if using a task manager like this would acually be hurting my battery life/performance becuase of force closing games that I dont want running in the backround.
Im using a droid 2 and running froyo and i have not rooted the phone.
Thanks for any replies.
They do not boost performance or save battery. in fact, they use MORE battery. Dont use one, ESPECIALLY with Froyo. The only time I use one, is if an app is acting up, freezing, etc. Otherwise, dont use it.
Ok thank you. That is suprising to me becuase naturally i assumed if more memory was taken up the phone would not run as well. But thanks again and I think im going to just uninstall it
Try Watchdog lite.
Yes, I Swyped it from my Galaxy 3
Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
entropism said:
I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
superweapons said:
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
Hello
Noob
sorry if this Q was asked, but could not find it in search
Which is the fastest ROM one can install on the infuse?
I don't care about ANYTHING but the practicality of the device - and that means SPEED!
So which is it?
Thanks so much
benyben123 said:
Hello
Noob
sorry if this Q was asked, but could not find it in search
Which is the fastest ROM one can install on the infuse?
I don't care about ANYTHING but the practicality of the device - and that means SPEED!
So which is it?
Thanks so much
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fastest at what? 3d? video decoding? internet? benchmarks? what?
if you want killer benchmarks then miui with journalling disabled, stagefreight enabled and other random tweaking and overclock can give you 4000+ in quadrant. but the 2.2.1 Rom gives you faster framerates in 3d gaming. as well as faster data speeds. you decide what's best gor you.
Thanks so much!
I meant fast in the sense that everything MOVES fast. I just used my wife's Galaxy S (not II, the first gen S), and it KILLED my infuse which runs Refuse V1/7 rom.
When I say killed, I mean that the phone is so much snappier when moving through contacts, opening apps (even the PHONE APP!!!), and literary everything.
Now I am no genius, but the differences are NOTICEABLE.
miui is known to be snappy. but I can't stand the theme or lack of an app drawer.
You could add an app drawer : launcher pro or the like. I also didn't care for the standard Miui look. It's pretty easy to change it, though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296113
App-drawer fixed.
I would say serendipity and infused 2.2.3?
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Thanks so much!
I meant fast in the sense that everything MOVES fast. I just used my wife's Galaxy S (not II, the first gen S), and it KILLED my infuse which runs Refuse V1/7 rom.
When I say killed, I mean that the phone is so much snappier when moving through contacts, opening apps (even the PHONE APP!!!), and literary everything.
Now I am no genius, but the differences are NOTICEABLE.
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Download Spare Parts and change window and transition animations to "FAST". You'll be making fun of your wife's captivate by bed-time
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
Dlev is the best
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Dlev is the best
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... Can you expand on that at all? The OP had three specific questions and you didn't answer any. You just stated your opinion and who knows if you've even tried Serendipity to compare the two.
I really liked S7 but it just decided one day that it was not gonna work. Everything started force closing. So I moved to CM7 but it was good. As for Dlev I didn't like the looks of it. So I was on it like maybe 1 hour or so didn't have issue with in that hour.
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I've been on both and I like things about both.
S7 - Good battery life, great stability, great performance..
--It is outdated, sometimes has the battery drain bug.
Dlev - Excellent battery life, like the theme, great stability, is sometimes "choppy", is newer version the S7.
--The developer is active and fixing problems.
If S7 was 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 JVT/JVT it would definitely be my choice of ROM.
I would go for DLEV since it's 2.3.4 and doesn't have the battery drain bug, and has a lot of great features.
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
Only problem for me is usb connectivity. Tried it without debugging on and all I got was a kies screen with no recognition from my pc (win7). With debugging on it just goes to a charge. I'm gonna play around with it some more, but everything else is super clean and smooth.
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MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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I don't want MIUI on account of the bluetooth issue, and I play games so there is that too. But thank you for the suggestion.
Anyone else on S7 vs. Dlev?
Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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This guy ^^ really loves his MIUI lol but yes I've had both...Dlev, didn't like the theme of it and for some reason was choppy every other boot or so, and had data issues, got tired of it and flashed S7 and haven't changed since. Great battery, stability, speed, only negative is its still 2.3.3, not really a big deal for me.
EricNagel said:
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
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I came from S7 to Dlev about a week ago. I had HUGE battery drain problems with S7 that weren't being fixed with a reboot, or uninstalling apps. I've been extremely happy with Dlev, paired with the Daily Driver kernel the battery life is very good, and the kernel makes charging faster. I have had no stability problems with the new update, I had some problems with the first one and the Touch Wiz launcher (fixed with a re-install). The new version has Go Launcher EX installed, which is an excellent theme-able launcher with lots of eye candy tweaks. Smoothness even at stock speed with all animations is good, would be even better if overclocked.
Dlev is the best for me, which has been running great all the time. I have not tried CM7, but since Dlev is actually based off of the captivate (very like the Infuse if you did not know), which seems like it would work better with the Fuse. Ha Mohammad_Adib knows I like it so much this from Android Forums ha. I would probably be running Infused though, because I just like the feel of running a rom that is actually meant for the Infuse, but with no updates for now I just have nothing to look forward to on that rom, where Dlev may just be my fav now.
So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks
eatonjb said:
So my Xoom was running really sluggish at times. so I said the heck with it, backed up what I needed and whipd it out!
it still seems pretty sluggish. not terible, but there are a lot of things that are not nearly as smooth as it should be.
the Tablet WAS rooted, and with another Kernal, but i put it all back to stock (I think) and still seems a little off.
ideas?
thanks
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Stock is the most sluggish. On top of overclocked cpu, I use overclocked gpu kernel as well and the ADW EX launcher. That's a prescription for butter smoothness.
i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
eatonjb said:
i dont remember it being so slugish when i first got it?
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Even when you get everything set up the way you want it, things get laggy sometimes.
I do the following: reboot to refresh the system, free up ram by various means, including making sure that no memory hogs are running in the background, etc...Autostart root app helps to keep stuff from starting at or just after boot,which helps you manage your memory too.
Also make sure you are using the interactive (or lagfree if you so desire) governor for your kernel. That solved my laggyness problem with my refurb.
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Hi
What is lagfree? Is it a kernel? How to get that?
Is there a good app to show what is using the most memory or resources so i can uninstall? I use advanced task killer and it kills my apps every now and then and performance improves but they comr back even thougj i didnt run them. How can i prevent apps from loading into mem except when i launch. I went to their settings and disables anything that runs on interval but they still run.
Thanks.
Note; currently i am 3.2.1 rooted.
As I said, Auto Starts is a great app to control what runs automatically. I also use Active apps to show me what is running so I can close it if needed. There are a number of good root apps that can do the trick. Why not check out the list in the Xoom Heaven thread at the top of page one of the General Forum.
Thanks for the reply I will give that a try...
I noticed having a lot of open browser tabs kills the speed big time.
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Even bone stock the Xoom is not sluggish. I would say there is a problem or you did not fully wipe the device. On some devices the kernel could potentially cause a problem.
If memory is not super low, connection speeds is usually the culprit.