I see a lot of people say to do not use joeykrim one click root.
This is where I got my root from and is it ok to use this one? I like this one as it has the clockwork mod recovery as an option to root with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808103
Or should I use this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
ClockworkMod Recovery does not give you root. It gives you the ability to install ROMs, Kernels, and MODs.
If you're going to be using a rooted kernel, then just install ClockworkMod and then install your kernel.
If you just want root, I'd imagine both will be fine as the first link seems to just use the scripts from the 2nd link.
You shouldn't use any one click method if you plan on using a custom kernel. The kernel itself will have root, and can conflict with the once click method. Use your preferred method of flashing CWM, and flash your kernel. Root is not needed for CWM to work.
Well for some reason without rooting I can not install CWM. So should I root, install CWM and then uninstall root?
Thanks.
Edit: I think it worked this time around.
Edit 2: It did work.
Should you flash a kernel or a rom first?
I would go ROM first, then kernel, in the off chance that the ROM has a kernel included. You also don't need to reboot between flashes; flash within the same session.
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Hi,
Just ran Alpharevx on Linux on my phone and all seemed successful. I have a question though, I don't seem to have root...
Even though Clockworkmod is installed if I go into recovery, SetCPU and ROM Manager both state I do not have root permissions, is there an extra step I'm missing?
Hi, why don't simply install a custom rom. Many custom roms out there come with root, backup, task manager, OC and etc. Once you get a hang of it, you might want to try your own build.
verifunny said:
Hi, why don't simply install a custom rom. Many custom roms out there come with root, backup, task manager, OC and etc. Once you get a hang of it, you might want to try your own build.
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Thanks, any particular one you recommend that works well?
I myself think I'll go with this one. I like the stock experience so far, but with Sense 3.0 would be even better, especially since the "answer in my pocket" thing annoys the hell out of me (problem solved with Sense 3.0).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122797
If you want a different experience then I don't know
You need to use gingerbreak. Search for it in the development section, its an app you run on your phone that installs root for you.
It may tell you that its not sure if it worked but that's normal, just reboot the phone and you will have root!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Btrim14 said:
Hi,
Just ran Alpharevx on Linux on my phone and all seemed successful. I have a question though, I don't seem to have root...
Even though Clockworkmod is installed if I go into recovery, SetCPU and ROM Manager both state I do not have root permissions, is there an extra step I'm missing?
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To root your stock ROM then use Ginger Break you can download a free market app called root checker to see if you have root.
I'd recommend that you also take a backup of your existing stock rom using either CWM or through rom manager backup before you install a custom rom.
I'd also suggest that you install LBC MOD custom....but try them all and decide for yourself.
I'd also recommend that you install 4EXT recovery rather than CWM as its an improved easier to use version of CWM which is updated very often.
ben_pyett said:
To root your stock ROM then use Ginger Break you can download a free market app called root checker to see if you have root.
I'd recommend that you also take a backup of your existing stock rom using either CWM or through rom manager backup before you root.
I'd also suggest that you install LBC MOD custom....but try them all and decide for yourself.
I'd also recommend that you install 4EXT recovery rather than CWM as its an improved easier to use version of CWM which is updated very often.
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can i make a back up even if i am not rooted? how?
yerfdes said:
can i make a back up even if i am not rooted? how?
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Your quite right....you can't, I clearly was thinking straight.
I'll edit post above so as not to mislead.
Alpharevx installs clockworkmod recovery if you want.
With CWM you can make a full backup, the you can try some other ROMs. I am using virtuous unity and looks really well.
GermanDZ said:
Alpharevx installs clockworkmod recovery if you want.
With CWM you can make a full backup, the you can try some other ROMs. I am using virtuous unity and looks really well.
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Although, you won't be able to take a successful NANDROID backup even with CWM unless you have rooted your phone.
I'm running stock EE4 but I'm getting ready to root and install one of the debloated ROMs. Currently I have a lot of apps, home screens and ADW Launcher set to my satisfaction and settings tweaked how I like them.
What are "best practices" for pre-rooting backup so all of these are retrievable? I've used Titanium Pro on my tablet so I'm conversant with that process but don't I have to be rooted first? Should I root the phone, install TP, back-up and THEN flash the ROM? Are there alternatives?
Thanks, I await advice.
adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
dragonstalker said:
adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
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Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
Thanks, fellas. If you're monitoring this thread, would you mind having a look over here?
keithce said:
Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
dragonstalker said:
OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
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Indeed, strictly technically speaking you are correct. However after the radio on the charge got updated to EE4 the usual 'back doors' or exploits to get root no longer worked.
Therefore the developers of the kernels for the charge built in the capability to auto root when it boots and hands off the hardware to the software.
If you read the posts for the kernels (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104634) you would see that.
Cheers!
I stand corrected. It's right there in black and white. Auto-Root on Boot.
We learn something new everyday. Thanks for getting me brought up to speed.
keithce said:
Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
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Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
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Flashing anything in Odin uses an almost identical procedure unless you're trying to also upgrade the baseband/radio/modem.
Yes, you can flash a kernel using Odin. You just have to make sure that you download the right file to be flashed because it must be in specific format (*.md5).
Here is a link to jt's kernel from this post. Its a root kernel with CWM and also includes the lagfix (reformat to EXT4) that you should be able to flash using Odin.
That should give you a working (although limited functionality) version of CWM so that you can then install everything else and upgrade when a newer working version of CWM comes out.
Basically you just need to get CWM on there once as a starting point and then you can upgrade, update, and do whatever you want from there.
I simply want a rooted Charge running the STOCK Froyo with all the Verizon "bloat" intact. For the life of me, I just can't seem to find clear instructions on obtaining this. The "Look Here First" thread doesn't seem to have what i'm looking for, or it's just not clear. I simply want to be able to use my Paid version of Titanium Backup.
If someone could point me to the most accurate and clear thread that explains how to get what i'm looking for it would be greatly appreciated.
Flash CWM in Odin.
Flash a rooted kernel.
Download su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip from here and transfer it to your SDCard. Flash CWM in Odin, boot straight to recovery after flashing. Once in CWM, flash the su zip you downloaded and enjoy root.
So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.
viper157 said:
So is a rooted kernel necessary? Everything I have been reading says you need a rooted kernel.
imnuts can I keep my stock kernel and just use the SuperUser binary with CWM? (sounds too easy unless I'm missing something)
Thank you.
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yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root
anoninja118 said:
yes, just flash that superuser package in CWM and enjoy root
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Thank you.
Sorry to ask a noob question
I have been looking into rooting my phone so I can use the 6 axis ps3 app
Where I get lost is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985 says cant use super 1 click root need to flash first leads to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Which says if you are just getting started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715 which leads back to root
So how do I flash a different rom without rooting first which requires the other rom
Does the chicken or the egg come first
First do the nvflash thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
then you can flash this stock rooted rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
after that you have root and you can flash any other roms you want.
Crgm77 said:
First do the nvflash thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
then you can flash this stock rooted rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
after that you have root and you can flash any other roms you want.
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Mostly correct. Use nvflash to put clockworkmod recovery on your phone. Then you can use it to flash any rom compatible with this phone. We have a lot of freedom with this phone because of its unlocked bootloader. As far as "root" goes (root privileges, superuser, su, etc), that is built into whichever rom you install. I think basically all custom roms are rooted.
I installed a custom recovery through the WUG method before someone directed me to the GooManager method which seems a lot easier. They both install the same custom recovery (TWRP). In the app it asks if i want to install a custom recovery so does that mean if i install the TWRP again I'll be able to use GooManager for finding roms and nothing will break, can i download the roms from GooManager and just flash it from there using my already installed recovery (without installing the same recovery from GooManager), or should i just go the long way and install through the quickboot method?
It doesn't matter. Once you have recovery, you have recovery. It's a partition on your device that doesn't care where it comes from.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I installed a custom recovery through the WUG method before someone directed me to the GooManager method which seems a lot easier. They both install the same custom recovery (TWRP). In the app it asks if i want to install a custom recovery so does that mean if i install the TWRP again I'll be able to use GooManager for finding roms and nothing will break, can i download the roms from GooManager and just flash it from there using my already installed recovery (without installing the same recovery from GooManager), or should i just go the long way and install through the quickboot method?
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Like pirateghost said it doesn't matter. But I wouldn't use goomanager to flash roms. Download then from xda and flash them in twrp. Goo manager can be a brick waiting to happen if you're not careful.
Use xda not goo. This is personal opinion I am leery of it and do not trust it entirely to modify my phone.
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mdwills3521 said:
I installed a custom recovery through the WUG method before someone directed me to the GooManager method which seems a lot easier. They both install the same custom recovery (TWRP). In the app it asks if i want to install a custom recovery so does that mean if i install the TWRP again I'll be able to use GooManager for finding roms and nothing will break, can i download the roms from GooManager and just flash it from there using my already installed recovery (without installing the same recovery from GooManager), or should i just go the long way and install through the quickboot method?
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1) Ditch the toolkit, save a kitten. Use fastboot to install a custom recovery.
2) Ditch GooManager, it's too unreliable to use to mod your OS. Download custom ROMs and kernels from XDA.
After viewing threads of what the ROM manager app had done to some people's phone I would follow Birch's advice.