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I moving into android development and have been trying to figure out what to buy as my "development phone". I know the nexus one is still available to developers, but it's almost a year old.
As I understand it one of the advantages of the nexus one is that you are able to run a version of android unmolested by manufactures and carriers. It also receives any and all android update first.
Once it goes away what phone is going to replace it? What phone will run a pure version of android, and be in line for the first updates?
It seems the nexus one is approaching the end of this life cycle. If you were a new developer and on the limited budget (and which of us isn't) what phone would you buy right now for development purposes?
Thanks!
Nexus Two is being developed by Samsung and is supposed to be out before the end of the year.
yea samsung is having a press event on the 8th of this month. supposedly they are gonna announce a nexus 2 or something. so time will tell
hp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/28/nexus-two-does-or-doesnt-exist-is-or-isnt-being-released/
Thanks for the info!
Rumors are flying on the N2...Nov 8th should clear up some of them.
Will the Nexus 2 be similar to the Galaxy S series?
This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php
lilhaiti said:
This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php
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Makes sense. Doesn't HTC build more Android phones than anyone else? Plus I was a little suspicious about the SAMOLED screen on the N2. If there is a shortage as claimed, I can't see why would Samsung put it on a "non-Samsung" branded phone?
It looks like samsung is making the nexus two, and it's going to be delayed. See link below. In short samsung ran across a major hardware issue during dog food testing. So, we know it's coming from samsung, we just don't know when
http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/go...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)
Pretty sure there gonna call it Nexus S, like LG w/ Optimus One, and all the other Optimus phones, besides Samsung's phones arent the best, and if you really want a phone for just development the original droid can be found for around $200 on ebay, its easy to root and can be easily overclocked to 800Mhz, which I know isn't as amazing but it'll definitely get you the most bang for your buck. (just searched for it on ebay theres one thats about to end in a minute going for $150 so you can probably find for cheaper).
only thinq i hope its that htc make it, cus i dnt trust samsung. all the SGS are crap. they are made of plastic and lagg like crazy lol. hope the famous nexus two keeps the htc quality standarts.
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I am looking for a recent Android phone which will receive many updates in the near future, many performance, big screen, no external keyboard...
Possible phones are:
Galaxy S2
Nexus S
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I am looking for a phone which has custom ROMs and kernels available. eg: Galaxy S, which will be soon end-of-life
till now, the best one is the galaxy SII, but wait one month and you'll get much better things i guess x)
Yep. Newer phones with larger screens and faster data. Hopefully by years end.
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Yep. Newer phones with larger screens and faster data. Hopefully by years end.
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Yep! Nexus prime should be here in the near future! =)
How about a 5.7 inch screen
Samsung Note, I think that is the name. It is just anounced
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I love my Google Nexus S but not tried many others. I can say it's better than some HTC phones my friends have.
HTC sensation..
I'm in the same boat. I had to upgrade my plan so I can upgrade my phone soon. Not waiting 8 more months
I'll prolly get the Nexus Prime. If not that, then the Galaxy S2.
On the updates.. I read somewhere that Samsung will be doing, or at least try to, updates straight from Google. I'm not sure how that will go since carriers love their restrictions on phones.
I would prefer HTC Sensation! Great one!
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I would prefer HTC Sensation! Great one!
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yeah thumb up buddy.. style and powerful device..
Of course it's SGS II!
HTC Sensation
I'm thinking of selling my Nexus S early so I can best price possible.. Do you think the price for an used Nexus S will drop once Nexus Prime is announced (not launched)?
I bought it off contract so I'm not locked into any contracts. Will they be available for T-Mobile at launch or only Verizon (as rumored by some)?
Do you think it will be worth it to upgrade?
I for one will be jumping ship on the Nexus line. You can get better hardware and AOSP on other devices so why buy a rebranded GS or GS2?
droidance said:
I'm thinking of selling my Nexus S early so I can best price possible.. Do you think the price for an used Nexus S will drop once Nexus Prime is announced (not launched)?
I bought it off contract so I'm not locked into any contracts. Will they be available for T-Mobile at launch or only Verizon (as rumored by some)?
Do you think it will be worth it to upgrade?
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I'll pick it up - just have to decide on which carrier (we'll see what's announced on Oct 11th).
As far as Sprint costumers goes we are out of luck, since BB is practically giving the NS4G away. I guess if someone needed a phone but didn't. Have an upgrade I could possibly get at least $200 for it but I just don't know. I tell you what my mother in law just got the Epic 4g touch and that is a nice piece of hardware, had me thinking about a change for a minute.
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I'm waiting on it, picked this nexus s up brand new for only 200. have offer to sell at 260 , and go back to my blackberry for awhile till the prime comes out. If Verizon release only, probably just hold onto to this for awhile with the ics is.
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I would have but I had no idea the Nexus Prime would be coming out this year. Just got my Nexus S over the summer . Oh well it's still a great phone either way and I'm assuming the Nexus Prime will be great as well seeing that Samsung is manufacturing it again .
hands down on AT&T version
The rumor is that at time of release, Prime will be only on Verizon. If that is the case I will happily enjoy the tasty Ice Cream Sandwich on my Nexus S
If it is on AT&T or T-Mobile, I will probably get it.
If it comes out on sprint the week is released or around october then yes hopefully the day after its announced on sprint as a 17 bday present as well as a new ps3 : D you know this.counts if it has those rumored specs especially 720p screen lol
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I'll stay with the Nexus S for the time being, just in case I don't happen to like the Ice Cream Sandwich update........ I'm pretty sure I'm gonna love it but you never know!
If I decide to get one, it won't be for another 6 months at least!
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I for one will be jumping ship on the Nexus line. You can get better hardware and AOSP on other devices so why buy a rebranded GS or GS2?
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I get your logic I have some points:
I believe Google does a good job of customizing this specifically for us geeks that want a pure android experience.
Google handpicks the best phone they can find to be a Nexus phone. I think Google knows a thing or two about Android phones and if Google says this phone is worthy of carrying their Nexus name then its good enough for me.
Not all phones have an ASOP Rom available. I tried the Bionic out and couldn't find a pure ASOP rom for it. Not to mention the screen was aweful.
Nexus devices get updates much much faster than carrier branded devices.
I was trying to figure out battery life the other day but looking at the GS2 specs after being disappointed to see the GS2 specs I decided to compare the GS1 (Captivate, Vibrant) specs to the Nexus S. To make sure that the Nexus and Galaxy being the same hardware meant the same battery life. The Nexus S has twice the battery life for the same battery. It seems unlikely that the skin alone is cutting the battery life in half. There has to be something else about the Nexus devices that make the battery so much more efficient.
Go to Phonearena[dot]com and compare the handsets for yourself. I personally can't wait to get my hands on the Prime (Galaxy Nexus or whatever they all it).
waiting for the AWS version
Dont forget....in 5 months from now THE LAUNCH of GS3...
it's always a step ladder game
SGS# will always be the flagship
then a new version of Nexus # will always follow behind with the stuff of the previous SGS# and a couple of new extra, and new OS
it's a very good strategy by Samsung, to recycle the left over parts from mass producing SGS#
I will have the Nexus Prime in my pocket the HOUR it launches for Verizon. Ah, the joys of working for Big Red...indirectly, of course...
Is T-Mobile's 4G coverage much better than 3G?
My 3G is horrible. I get 'emergency call only' in some of my classes, while other carriers' phone gets some bars.
I sure hope that the specs in the updated section is true.
- dual-core 1.5GHz Exynos
- dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 8 megapixels camera
- 2,050mAh battery
If it is true, I would definitely get it!! As for the old specs, I don't mind the TI processor, but 5MP back cam and 1.3MP front cam is so Galaxy S1.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-specs-leak-headed-to-verizon-as-an-exclusi/
I would love to...but no Staying with my Nexus S for now.
At&t htc one x or Samsung galaxy nexus? And why?
I like that cm9 is out for the sgn and just that it gets updated quick.
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At&t htc one x or Samsung galaxy nexus? And why?
I like that cm9 is out for the sgn and just that it gets updated quick.
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Personally I am switching from the SGN to the H1X.
For me the GNex build quality is really low and I find SAMOLEDS to be inferior to IPS / LCD panels.
Also, the camera on the GNex is painfully bad, like exceptionally bad.
Plus, LTE support if they roll it out near you soon.
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Personally I am switching from the SGN to the H1X.
For me the GNex build quality is really low and I find SAMOLEDS to be inferior to IPS / LCD panels.
Also, the camera on the GNex is painfully bad, like exceptionally bad.
Plus, LTE support if they roll it out near you soon.
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Here's the facts:
GN = First gen h/w, new OS
HOX = Next gen h/w, new OS
OS' change; h/w is forever.
Other than consistently getting OS updates first from Google I'm hard pressed to see one advantage that the GN holds over the HOX (or upcoming SGS3). And assuming the dev support is good it'll be days after a new OS version is released before you'll be able to flash it in some form.
id say get the one x..
from my point of view, htc is ahead in software updates for ice cream sandwhich??? not sure but its my guess..
Soo, when the next os comes next, most likely htc will pump out the next update a month or more sooner than samsung?
Krait is nice.
Omap4? nah
SysAdmNj said:
At&t htc one x or Samsung galaxy nexus? And why?
I like that cm9 is out for the sgn and just that it gets updated quick.
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You come in the the One X forums and expect us to NOT be biased? Pfft...
One X dude.
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At&t htc one x or Samsung galaxy nexus? And why?
I like that cm9 is out for the sgn and just that it gets updated quick.
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Depends on where you live. Luckily I own a nexus and will be owning this device
pretty soon. When it comes to design and specs, the one x has the edge. Software
is the nexus strong point. Stock ICS is terrific and will always get the updates first.
(if your build is yakju).
But you already know people in this forum will tell you to pick up the one x =P.
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Other than consistently getting OS updates first from Google I'm hard pressed to see one advantage that the GN holds over the HOX (or upcoming SGS3). And assuming the dev support is good it'll be days after a new OS version is released before you'll be able to flash it in some form.
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Provided the HOX gets a proper S-Off..
Now hold on. The Samsung galaxy nexus is being sold by Google in the play store for $400. I was goin to buy the hox off contract anyways. Now I can save some money and go the Google way,unlocked. What do you guys think now?
BarryH_GEG said:
Here's the facts:
GN = First gen h/w, new OS
HOX = Next gen h/w, new OS
OS' change; h/w is forever.
Other than consistently getting OS updates first from Google I'm hard pressed to see one advantage that the GN holds over the HOX (or upcoming SGS3). And assuming the dev support is good it'll be days after a new OS version is released before you'll be able to flash it in some form.
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Actually, even the updates aren't that quick anymore... I'm still on 4.0.2 (Unlocked GSM) and Google is completely mum on the subject...
i have no other reason to suggest the HOX other than the fact that I like it lol, go check it out in a store
SysAdmNj said:
Now hold on. The Samsung galaxy nexus is being sold by Google in the play store for $400. I was goin to buy the hox off contract anyways. Now I can save some money and go the Google way,unlocked. What do you guys think now?
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If price is important, then that's a good deal. Other than h/w that's kind of stale compared to S4, Teg3, and the 4214, you can count on the s/w of a Nexus device being kept current forever (by Google and the dev community). If you plan on keeping the phone for two years I'd pay the extra to get the One X. A year or less get the GN.
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If price is important, then that's a good deal. Other than h/w that's kind of stale compared to S4, Teg3, and the 4214, you can count on the s/w of a Nexus device being kept current forever (by Google and the dev community). If you plan on keeping the phone for two years I'd pay the extra to get the One X. A year or less get the GN.
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Nevermind I passed by a verizon store to play with the sgn and didnt feel any faster than my htc inspire(desire hd). I still have to go to the at&t store and play with the htc one x. Not sure how I'll do with an sd card. Also, hopefully all the bugs the international version has we wont get.
Just speaking from recent experience, One X without question. I find the GNex screen to be yellow tinted and not that impressive. Points go to the build quality of the One X too. The only advantage of course to the GNex is the updates (and storage if you get a 32 GB model).
I don't think anyone in here will argue that the SGN is a great device, I even ordered one for my brother-in-law today bc $399 is a great deal! However, I myself preordered the One X bc it has superior hardware and design.
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I don't think anyone in here will argue that the SGN is a great device, I even ordered one for my brother-in-law today bc $399 is a great deal! However, I myself preordered the One X bc it has superior hardware and design.
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Actually have a friend who did the same, preordered the HOX for himself and the $399 GNex for his wife.
I have a GNex now and its by far the best phone I have owned to date, but for me I really favor the IPS Super LCD panels, and I am a sucker for HTC's industrial design.
It doesn't hurt that its nice and white too.
Hello everybody
It has not even been 6 months since the HTC One x release.
I have bought a HTC One x last week in the hope that it would be the flagship product for HTC for next 6 months.
Alas all my hopes was shattered few days back by HTC One x+.
I have seen the rumors even before I purchase the one x.
But at that time it was said as a direct competitor for Samsung galaxy note product.
So I assumed it may not supersede HTC One x.
But recent reports are terming the one x+ as more of a successor to one x than competitor Samsung galaxy note.
In that case our mobile phone would soon become a step child for HTC from a flagship product position that too merely within 6 month of a product life cycle.
I.think nowadays mobile phone product got a short span of life cycle.
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That's how it goes. Thank Apple and their yearly release cycle.
I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. I love the One X and don't image it will be difficult to stick with it for 2 years.
...no matter how tempting the Lumia 920's PureView camera may be...
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I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
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That's how I see it too
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Love the one you're with.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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Agreed.
Contrary to popular belief, when a newer phone is released, your devices specs DO NOT change. They will remain the same thru its entire life span
I don't care about new phones. I just want this one to get root!
Remember, there is still the Evitaire info from early august. The One X+ is codenamed Endeavor C2, that one should be for T-Mobile. Considering the AT&T One X is codenamed Evita, I'm sure the the Evitaire is for AT&T and is the One X+. We will know for sure on the 19th.
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This happens all the time. When a new device is released, people feel hard done by because a newer model is about to be released. It's just the way technology is nowadays.
And as others have said, the + isn't a massive improvement anyway
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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Thanks everybody for your clarifications on the One X+.
Moreover many of you have not understood my concern correctly.
I am not such an immature person to think that the mobile phone i have, would never get a successor.
Not only Apple offers a one year window before releasing a successor to it's products, But it also offers 3+ year support for it's existing products.
Expecting our investment (valuation) to be secured at least for one year is wrong?
I think, people should not complain about product support for more than one year if they didn't buy an Apple or Google Experience device.
Anyway let us hope the HTC One X+ be a T-Mobile centric mobile phone.
In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so. HTC has no choice. If it didn't refresh its hardware in 6-month time frame, other manufacturers will leave it way behind. There is no such concern from Apple because no one else get to release another iPhone.
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In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so.
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Still you didn't understand my point correctly.
Using latest and greatest mobile phone is not my point.
I want the mobile phone i purchased should receive first hand treatment from the company at least for one year.
Apple, Google and Samsung does that.
How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
I am not trying to cause issues with this post but to point something out and ponder WTF is different.
This new X, is just a slight upgrade we know, but in this picture at the Verge, it seems to have either new vent holes or a speaker outlet by the redesigned camera bezel.. IF, this is a picture of it and not something else.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3300642/htc-one-x-plus-specs-leaked
What am I missing here, I haven't seen this back before, just went through every device at gsmarena and couldn't find a match, it's redesigned a little I guess. If you can't see holes, highlight picture.
WR
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My wife's 2 year old HTC Inspire got an update last month. Will it ever see ICS? I doubt it.
With Google going to a yearly software release schedule like apple I suspect my One X will see Jelly Bean but not Key Lime Pie, or Karmel Korn, or whatever they decide to call it.
You buy a phone for what it can do TODAY. Since you're on a site which is all about developing custom roms and tweaks and such, a company's official software release schedule shouldn't matter all that much anyway.
If by some bizarre chance I still have this phone in two years I'm sure CM11 or CM 12 or whatever will run on it just fine.
The dual core S4 is already capable of running everything except the hardcore games like a hot knife through butter. Android apps are a long way off from maxxing out what our SoC is capable of.
In a nutshell chasing the latest and greatest is expensive, there will always be something better on the horizon. Always buy the flagship and if you can, buy the unsubsidized unlocked version. That will keep the average XDA user happy for at least a year.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
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My Samsung Galaxy S2 (AT&T version) only received ICS updates after I purchased HTC OneX and dumped my S2.
In US, AT&T received Galaxy S2 in Oct. 2011, then a newer version of Galaxy S2 with LTE radio called Galaxy S2 SkyRocket and Galaxy Note showed up in Nov. 2011. Afterwards, AT&T is also scheduled to release Galaxy S2 SkyRocket HD in March or April 2012 but later cancelled due to incoming Galaxy S3 which released in June 2012. The SkyRocket HD did get released in Korea however. So, in about eight months, Samsung released or intend to release 5 different Android phones on the same carrrier.