[Q] Xperia X10 VoiP - General Questions and Answers

Can anyone suggest a SIP application for X10 that actually works with the phone! I've tried at least 5 or 6 of them always with the same result: the voice received on the other side is utterly hideous! Tried: sipdroid, fring, linphone, 3CX, c... and they all routed voice to speaker instead earpiece, never avoided echo being generated on the other side of the call, mic & speaker mixing caused further problems with voice quality received on the other side of the call, tried every single codec 8,16,32 kbps, lowering the mic & speaker gain ... So before i go and by Nokia E series just to do the damn VoIP, is there any hope for X10??

Voip on X10
Got the same Problems .........
No SIP client is working on the X10! I tried many of them i.e. Sipdroid, Fringe, Nimbuzz, FritzApp and so on..........
The results are the same! No SIP client is working solid. I get force closed, phone crashes or just awesome bad voice quality....
I realy was thinking that this was caused by the 1.6 Firmware.
So 2.1 is out now and i try it again.
The Result: Still crashes and phone hang ups! SO WTF?
It wasnt about the 1.6 Firmware so what is wrong with the X10?
It looks like that there is no option to use any SIP Droid with it?
Is anybody out there who can confirm a running SIP client on a X10 with satisfying result?
I have never heard about and i realy want to use VOIP. There must be a way........

Thanx for sharing your experience!
Have you actually upgraded!? i'm waiting on 2.1 before dropping down the Issue. I'll be patient and wait for a update which is meant for my region (not the Nordic), and it might take a while. However I found somewhere that he issue with bad voice quality during voIP in Xperia is caused by the phone recording/mixing inbound & outbound audio at the same time. I actually haven't had many crashes except with Linphone and my main concern is audio. Hoping that 2.1 would do something with the Android Kernel that will allow for better VoIP experience. If not E52 (Nokia has by far the best VoIP client).

Yes im already using the Nordic 2.1 Firmware......
there is no hope for SIP!

Damn it! I mean WTF, I'm following the Xperiax10.net blog and people getting wormed up about the Eclair and anticipating trivial stuff such as live f...king wallpapers, 5 welcome screens minor improvements in performance (OK I admit that Hd recording & continuous are some improvements) but totally neglecting a functionality in which their phone is used as a communication tool!!
So It looks that I'm going to use two devices Xperia handling my multimedia requirements and some cheap WiFi capable Nokia handling SIP!! Have you tried contacting your local SE office over this matter?

Try CSipSimple. Its the beter full sip solution for now on my X10mini. Fully integrates with dialer, and sound is ok at all

louiscypherbr said:
Try CSipSimple. Its the beter full sip solution for now on my X10mini. Fully integrates with dialer, and sound is ok at all
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Thank you for this hint.
I will give it a try and post my experience......

[email protected] luiscypherbr
You're right CSIPSimple gives best results, it takes some twitching with the mic & speaker gains to get best results. Works best with headphones. I've tried CSipSimple before on 1.6 but the software kept crashing down, however on 2.1 the software runs smooth. Finally x10 is shaping to be an acceptable business platform other than toy!
Thanx, anyhow for sharing!

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New Skype beta released! Now supports Smartphone :)

Skype just gave us an early Christmas present and released 2.2 beta for Windows Mobile Pocket PC & Smartphones!
It's been a long time coming, but looks really nice... I've noticed quite a few changes already.
Get yours here: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/
So, in addition to supporting a lot more devices, it has a nice new today screen plugin too. Now, you can change your presence and view notifications (missed calls, chats and contact requests) all without leaving the today screen!
Sweet! Thanks. Works very well over wifi with my dash.
In HTC P-3300 works very very well with Echo Cancelation ON. It´s a pitty the sound is still from speaker. Any solution for this ?
gazela00 said:
In HTC P-3300 works very very well with Echo Cancelation ON. It´s a pitty the sound is still from speaker. Any solution for this ?
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Try "BlueMusic" to route all sound through the bt h-set. Haven't done it with skype yet.
Victor

video calling using Polaris

Hi guys,
Is there any software which allows video calling on windows mobile?
Thank you!
You mean other than dialer included?
The dialer included only uses 3G, I think yallow means over any other network like Wi-Fi. There was one company who did that (forgot the name), but no demo or so, you know that kind of closed company which asks ridiculous prices for crappy software
I wished only Skype would port the video to mobile... BTW Live Messenger should have incorporated voice calls too, to compete against Skype (of course, I like the way it is, prefer Skype over Microsoft big time )
Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)
Good news, I've searched my history and found it
--> http://www.tabletmedia.com/ <--
I think this is what you want.
There is a trial I see now:
Voice only, no messaging, video or dual-mode support.
Includes G.711, G.722 and MS-GSM speech codecs.
Windows Mobile 2003 to 6.0
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The Internet can come on 3G or Wi-Fi. If you are looking for Video chatting over LAN (in this case wirelessLAN or bluetooth), thats a different story. Please be more specific next time.
M$ and Skype won't integrate the video functionality until there's a higher 3G coverage over the countries. The datarate is just too small on GPRS for Video chatting, and M$ is still several steps behind Skype in this field
gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.
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Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)
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Video calling over internet.. Very interseting.. Can you tell me how to do it?
AT&T Wireless
I was doing my own due diligence on this subject matter and figured that there is a way to utilitze the front camera on the TC.
Have you guys checked out AT&T's video calling?
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/attvideoshare.jsp
So far they list certain compatible phones, but do you think that it will work with the TC?
Seems like it works for 3G phones such as the TC...
-Julian P. Yun
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gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.
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You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!
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You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!
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Not only that, there were some programs that used a Local network (not the internet) for video calling... of course the were derailed before being implemented....
I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).
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I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).
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I agree, truly. But obviously most software wants to handle connections themselves or so. Anyhow, my before mentioned solution DOES work on LAN, just don't know if it's affordable.
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
You can download it (from the download section) and use it for free (or with an account just like skype)after registering for free as a Free Member from here : http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
With "Route 60" activated (as a distributor) u can even call for free to 60 countries on fixed phones (from which 6 countries on fixed AND MOBILES for free)
I call then free from mi 3gphone to fixed phones, to 3gphones and also even to computers having the correspondent software from Telme installed (Deskcall NG)
I tried fring with voipstunt and voipbuster, I could not find my Voip contactlist and was not convinced so I uninstalled it.
If someone gets a better result I would be happy to know it.
My telme nickname is 3gcedel in my Polaris and cedel in the deskcall if u want to call me. Or 1800-3501540 (Virtual SIM number if I'm not connected)
or 3g1800-3501540 (same as 3gcedel) when I'm connected in 3g
cedel said:
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
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Strange. Mine always times out while connecting
Weird Problem
I've been trying to get my TC to make video calls to a Nokia 6280 and it's a no go. The weird part is that I also have a N70 and I can make a call from the Polaris to the N70 and also from the N70 to the 6280. So all my phones work but the Polaris and the 6280 don't work together. When I try I get a connection but no sound and no image. Any ideas? I already tried different roms and already switched sim cards.

low-latency, high quality voice chat software

hay guys,
wanted to know if any one had a nose about the open source Mumble VOIP chat prog..?
Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming.
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http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
Would love to see a PPC app made on this.. any one have any idea if this is praticaly possible or not. it works much like Ventrilo's VOIP.
vent(ventrilo) has a PPC clone called centrilo. sadly with the new update of vent senrilo nolonger works
p.s. well when i say it dosn't work i mean the 3.0.xx update to the server. the old 2.xx sumint still works. but i dont want to dirty hack it to work. WM needs a good FREE!ap to do much the same thing. not asking much: a hub, maybe a few rooms/channels, i can live with 16bit audio if my device flys and dosn't lag.

Routing Skype through earpiece

I know routing audio to the earpiece has been discussed a lot of times before, yet, there is an update on this topic. The latest Fring version now does this ! And it actually works quite well. Any chance someone could possibly reverse engineer this and create an universal app that would allow the same audio routing for other programs ?
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Hej, thanks for the tip! This new Fring is a great program, and indeed the sound comes through the earpiece/frontspeaker on my Polaris! But why don't you use it yourself? You can also communicate to all your skype contacts, so the big drawback for Skype is no longer there!
All I'd like to see now is videocall....
There is one thing i totally hate about fring. It sets my status on Skype to "online", and there is no way to make it "invisible". I don't like to appear online. It kinda seems to me that for many ppl an online status looks like some kind of "call me call me call me right now" status, and i really don't like it.
It does indeed not have all the functionality Skype has. I can for instance not receive any contacts sent from another Skype user.
But the main thing it does well: calling!
The new version is here:
[APP][FREE] audioRoute 1.2.010 for VoIP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495166
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[NEWS FLASH] Skype No Longer Working With Fring

Received an email from Fring.
Hello fringsters,
As you may have noticed, Skype has blocked fring. We are very sorry for any inconvenience this Skype policy has unfairly caused you.
As loyal fring users, you deserve an explanation: Last week, following the surge in fring video calling traffic, fring service to Skype was temporarily reduced . Unfortunately, Skype and their legal team demanded not to restore your connectivity to Skype via fring.
Needless to say, we are very disappointed that Skype is now trying to muzzle competition, even at the expense of its own users.
While we regret Skype's decision to block fring, we are committed to continuing to provide you with market-leading innovation, to keep you in touch with your friends, wherever they are.
On fring you can freely use the best mobile over internet communication like video calling, calls and chat anywhere (3G/4G/WiFi) on any advanced Smartphone.
So, if you are frustrated like us with communication barriers, and are just looking for a fun and easy way to stay in touch with your friends on the go, tell them about fring andinvite your friends to join fring here
We appreciate your support and look forward to continuing to provide you with great mobile innovations.
Let freedom fring!
the fringTEAM.
That´s bad!!!
So Skype is gonna release an own Android version ?!
No idea who is telling the truth...
http://blogs.skype.com/en/
there is no truth to Fring’s claims that Skype has blocked it. Fring made the decision to remove Skype functionality on its own.
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Fring probably wants users to use their service and not skype's service. But I have no sympathy for Skype. They choose to lock down their software to a carrier.
BTW, this is posted in wrong forum. it should be in general discussions.
now that thats done, does anyone know how I can make voip calls to a LANDLINE while I'm in another country? I'm having trouble finding something.
You can still use Nimbuzz to access Skype though I've had some voice delay/lag issues sometimes with it. It's always crystal clear, though.
Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
Well, i guess nimbuzz is the ONLY client to call landlines without the nightmare of sip settings in fring, no?
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I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
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Wow yeah that's pretty bad.
Nimbuzz is definitely less than ideal, but I've never experience that with it. The audio quality has always been great, but as I mentioned, sometimes when I use it to use Skype to call a landline there gets to be a wicked delay, as if I was talking to someone on Mars or something. I was never sure if it was Nimbuzz's fault, or if it's because I'm calling from Thailand.
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Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
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I found this page, maybe someone is interested to use the Skype communication protocols...
Skype's Biggest Secret Revealed
enrupt.com/index.php/2010/07/07/skype-biggest-secret-revealed
It seems Skype may also be crippling Nimbuzz use:
http://forum.nimbuzz.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=i36kpf41rd3egj72citb7kohr0&/topic,4995.0.html
Boohoo, fring can't piggyback on skype.
While I don't like how skype is acting in regards to android and it's product, fring has to leg to stand to whine about not being able to use skype anymore.
Thems the breaks.
Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
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Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
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Skype has a deal with UK network 3 I believe. Their HTC Desire has Skype according to their site.

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