video calling using Polaris - Touch Cruise General

Hi guys,
Is there any software which allows video calling on windows mobile?
Thank you!

You mean other than dialer included?

The dialer included only uses 3G, I think yallow means over any other network like Wi-Fi. There was one company who did that (forgot the name), but no demo or so, you know that kind of closed company which asks ridiculous prices for crappy software
I wished only Skype would port the video to mobile... BTW Live Messenger should have incorporated voice calls too, to compete against Skype (of course, I like the way it is, prefer Skype over Microsoft big time )

Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)

Good news, I've searched my history and found it
--> http://www.tabletmedia.com/ <--
I think this is what you want.
There is a trial I see now:
Voice only, no messaging, video or dual-mode support.
Includes G.711, G.722 and MS-GSM speech codecs.
Windows Mobile 2003 to 6.0
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The Internet can come on 3G or Wi-Fi. If you are looking for Video chatting over LAN (in this case wirelessLAN or bluetooth), thats a different story. Please be more specific next time.
M$ and Skype won't integrate the video functionality until there's a higher 3G coverage over the countries. The datarate is just too small on GPRS for Video chatting, and M$ is still several steps behind Skype in this field

gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.

yallow said:
Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)
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Video calling over internet.. Very interseting.. Can you tell me how to do it?

AT&T Wireless
I was doing my own due diligence on this subject matter and figured that there is a way to utilitze the front camera on the TC.
Have you guys checked out AT&T's video calling?
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/attvideoshare.jsp
So far they list certain compatible phones, but do you think that it will work with the TC?
Seems like it works for 3G phones such as the TC...
-Julian P. Yun

yallow said:
gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.
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You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!

SabbeRubbish said:
You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!
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Not only that, there were some programs that used a Local network (not the internet) for video calling... of course the were derailed before being implemented....

I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).

yallow said:
I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).
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I agree, truly. But obviously most software wants to handle connections themselves or so. Anyhow, my before mentioned solution DOES work on LAN, just don't know if it's affordable.

I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
You can download it (from the download section) and use it for free (or with an account just like skype)after registering for free as a Free Member from here : http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
With "Route 60" activated (as a distributor) u can even call for free to 60 countries on fixed phones (from which 6 countries on fixed AND MOBILES for free)
I call then free from mi 3gphone to fixed phones, to 3gphones and also even to computers having the correspondent software from Telme installed (Deskcall NG)
I tried fring with voipstunt and voipbuster, I could not find my Voip contactlist and was not convinced so I uninstalled it.
If someone gets a better result I would be happy to know it.
My telme nickname is 3gcedel in my Polaris and cedel in the deskcall if u want to call me. Or 1800-3501540 (Virtual SIM number if I'm not connected)
or 3g1800-3501540 (same as 3gcedel) when I'm connected in 3g

cedel said:
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
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Strange. Mine always times out while connecting

Weird Problem
I've been trying to get my TC to make video calls to a Nokia 6280 and it's a no go. The weird part is that I also have a N70 and I can make a call from the Polaris to the N70 and also from the N70 to the 6280. So all my phones work but the Polaris and the 6280 don't work together. When I try I get a connection but no sound and no image. Any ideas? I already tried different roms and already switched sim cards.

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Internet Calling

As stupid as it may sound, can someone please tell me how internet calling on WM6 on universe works? Do i need a VoIP provider, wireless internet, etc. I have read the help but still cant figure it out. Please help. Thanks
you need a WLAN network, most of all, that's obvious.
However, whether WM6 carries its SIP-program onboard or if you have to install another VoIP program, I don't know...
If it doesn't, I recommend Fring: it's free to download, costs €10 for unlimited calls to non-Fring numbers, and it's generally an all-round cool and stable program.
mzalan said:
you need a WLAN network, most of all, that's obvious.
However, whether WM6 carries its SIP-program onboard or if you have to install another VoIP program, I don't know...
If it doesn't, I recommend Fring: it's free to download, costs €10 for unlimited calls to non-Fring numbers, and it's generally an all-round cool and stable program.
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thanx buddy. Will check fring out. I installed it sometime back but took no notice of it.
you could try using sjphone, it allowed you to input the parameters and create profiles for various voip providers...pretty stable and decent application.

IM Clients for the Rapheal

I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
n3rv3 said:
I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
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I personally use Plaringo, works fine for me.
n3rv3 said:
...there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats?
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Not available yet.
thanks any other IM clients that people like. sorry for this next question but how do i add plaringo or IM clients i used to use nokia and then went to iPhone and i had to sftp it on but then were do i add it at
there are a number of instant messanger clients out there IM+, Palringo, JiveTalk
I personally use IM+ and JiveTalk
JiveTalk is still in beta but it's pretty good and it's free
Palringo is free and it have a couple of pretty nice features
IM+ i paid for and have been using it has it's positive and negatives
i know there are a lot more out there
Nghiem said:
Not available yet.
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well actually... there's one client that uses the front camera:
ever heard of Netmeeting? it existed way before msn and yahoo.. at that time we (only) had mirc and ICQ those were the days..
anyways microsoft made a netmeeting client por ppc which uses the camera.. never tried it, tho. and the software only works by connecting to an ILS server (much like netmeeting). if you've never heard of Netmeeting, just go to Star->Run-> Conf.exe
about the ppc client.. you can _try_ here: http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/
hf
Keland44 said:
there are a number of instant messanger clients [...] out there
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yups, I use Smaper (formerly known as mChat by mGSLab.com)
http://smape.com/smaperfiles/wm/smaper106w_pe.cab
It's not easy to find the file (or even the description) on smape.com; but with babelfish and some russian translating it's fine (the program is not russian, it's multilanguage)
still waiting for the devs to get filetransfer working again (used to work until june or so, mgslab.com server is routed to smape now) but everything else is fine (ICQ, AIM, jabber, MMP, MSN...)
EDIT:
www.mgslab.com is rerouted, http://pda.mgslab.com/files.html and http://pda.mgslab.com still working. smaper 1.06 is the newer one though, it's an improvement over mchat 2.3.0.x
just my five cents hth
iRiKi said:
well actually... there's one client that uses the front camera:
ever heard of Netmeeting? it existed way before msn and yahoo.. at that time we (only) had mirc and ICQ those were the days..
anyways microsoft made a netmeeting client por ppc which uses the camera.. never tried it, tho. and the software only works by connecting to an ILS server (much like netmeeting). if you've never heard of Netmeeting, just go to Star->Run-> Conf.exe
about the ppc client.. you can _try_ here: http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/
hf
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Tks for the link. When I click on it; it diverted to http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ AND Microsoft Portrait doesn't work on Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387327
this is one of the things that rly angry me in the wmob world.
had that idea long ago when i bough my magician: we had gprs (33.6k baud was more then enough), we had a built-in camera, we have im applications, how cool was to webcam mobily?
and now after 3 years microsoft didnt even cared to pull a wrapper for the phone camera(s).
care to know why not? THE CARRIES! that way they couldnt pull out the astronomicall but lucrative rates on video-calling.
f*ck the exploited capitalism. america has to pay now
i use slick and it works pretty well also free
trying them out
i am trying all the ones that you guys said you like and i looked up aim and got AIM mobile but whenever i try to connect i get " Connectivity error 12029"
and i dont think my wifi is working correctly.. any pointers
qip.ru has a WM client that supports ICQ und Jabber. Im using it on ICQ and Google-Talk. Very stable an no other Problems, even if running for more than one day over GPRS.
ICQ
If you want ICQ-only client,Pigeon is the best on Raphael. I have tried any others,but they have problems playing sound notifications.
Pigeon fulfills all my requests on ICQ client perfectly:
- History in textfile and fast to read back
- Vibration and sound notifications working
- Easy and fast to use
- Nice design with cool smileys
Don't forget to prove whether you client stores some data on the client's provider server! Agile Mobile and Palringo both use a web gateway to connect to Jabber or ICQ. In both cases all your massages and passwords travel through foreign servers. This isn't really nice.
QIP 2040 works really fine on both ICQ und Jabber, and there aren't any problems with notification, vibration etc. And it directly connects to ICQ und Jabber-Server. So there is some privacy!
faeArai said:
Don't forget to prove whether you client stores some data on the client's provider server! Agile Mobile and Palringo both use a web gateway to connect to Jabber or ICQ. In both cases all your massages and passwords travel through foreign servers. This isn't really nice.
QIP 2040 works really fine on both ICQ und Jabber, and there aren't any problems with notification, vibration etc. And it directly connects to ICQ und Jabber-Server. So there is some privacy!
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Are you sure,QIP2040 is playing sounds correctly while in standby? My not.
Sorry for all,I forgot to write,that sound notifications won't play in standby(instead of Pigeon).
Yes, but I've disabled this cause of this anoying Uhoooh It still vibrates.
IM with video
Yo guys, still a bit confused here. Is there or isn't there a mobile IM application that let's you make mobile videocalls to MSN or Skype users?
No. See post #3, 8 and 9.
Pigeon! problems with Vibration
I just installed Pigeon on my Vario IV and everything's working perfect- besides notification with vibration. The sounds work perfectly...
Does anyone no what the problem is?
Do I have to mark both vibration modes or just one?
When I just pick one nothing happens.
Thanks for helping...
n3rv3 said:
I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
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I've always used IM+ (not free) but had a chance to try Beejive and I vote for Beejive plus it's free.

[NEWS FLASH] Skype No Longer Working With Fring

Received an email from Fring.
Hello fringsters,
As you may have noticed, Skype has blocked fring. We are very sorry for any inconvenience this Skype policy has unfairly caused you.
As loyal fring users, you deserve an explanation: Last week, following the surge in fring video calling traffic, fring service to Skype was temporarily reduced . Unfortunately, Skype and their legal team demanded not to restore your connectivity to Skype via fring.
Needless to say, we are very disappointed that Skype is now trying to muzzle competition, even at the expense of its own users.
While we regret Skype's decision to block fring, we are committed to continuing to provide you with market-leading innovation, to keep you in touch with your friends, wherever they are.
On fring you can freely use the best mobile over internet communication like video calling, calls and chat anywhere (3G/4G/WiFi) on any advanced Smartphone.
So, if you are frustrated like us with communication barriers, and are just looking for a fun and easy way to stay in touch with your friends on the go, tell them about fring andinvite your friends to join fring here
We appreciate your support and look forward to continuing to provide you with great mobile innovations.
Let freedom fring!
the fringTEAM.
That´s bad!!!
So Skype is gonna release an own Android version ?!
No idea who is telling the truth...
http://blogs.skype.com/en/
there is no truth to Fring’s claims that Skype has blocked it. Fring made the decision to remove Skype functionality on its own.
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Fring probably wants users to use their service and not skype's service. But I have no sympathy for Skype. They choose to lock down their software to a carrier.
BTW, this is posted in wrong forum. it should be in general discussions.
now that thats done, does anyone know how I can make voip calls to a LANDLINE while I'm in another country? I'm having trouble finding something.
You can still use Nimbuzz to access Skype though I've had some voice delay/lag issues sometimes with it. It's always crystal clear, though.
Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
Well, i guess nimbuzz is the ONLY client to call landlines without the nightmare of sip settings in fring, no?
Antiskunk said:
I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
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Wow yeah that's pretty bad.
Nimbuzz is definitely less than ideal, but I've never experience that with it. The audio quality has always been great, but as I mentioned, sometimes when I use it to use Skype to call a landline there gets to be a wicked delay, as if I was talking to someone on Mars or something. I was never sure if it was Nimbuzz's fault, or if it's because I'm calling from Thailand.
tonyx3 said:
Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
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I found this page, maybe someone is interested to use the Skype communication protocols...
Skype's Biggest Secret Revealed
enrupt.com/index.php/2010/07/07/skype-biggest-secret-revealed
It seems Skype may also be crippling Nimbuzz use:
http://forum.nimbuzz.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=i36kpf41rd3egj72citb7kohr0&/topic,4995.0.html
Boohoo, fring can't piggyback on skype.
While I don't like how skype is acting in regards to android and it's product, fring has to leg to stand to whine about not being able to use skype anymore.
Thems the breaks.
Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
leungda said:
Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
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Skype has a deal with UK network 3 I believe. Their HTC Desire has Skype according to their site.

VOIP free calls via mobile Android phones

HY to all. I know from time to time someone is looking for some VOIP options for mobile phones just as I was looking for it.
I will leave you link for downloading software for mobile and how to install it. Using is simple
I came out with very new brand and type of service for VOIP calls via all devices you can find including mobiles but unfortunately not all mobiles can work with that sowftware, more preiclisly there is no software for all types of mobiles just Android, Symbian and Iphone OS based phones.
Here you can find rates and software: www.logotell.com and here you can make VOIP account http://www.logotell.com/backoffice/?q=services
As I asked paying for vouchers for credit via Paypall and credit cards is in progress and it will be ready in few days (I hope).
IMPORTANT
Only thing to know is when you are making account at logotell.com it will ask you for "Sponsor's username:" so please put "hrga" as you got info from me . Later when you sugest to someone else he can put your user name (benefits you will find by yourself).
You can make VOIP account without registration at logotell just for free calls but if you want to buy credit you ll need to register and fill form. I suggest making acc at logotell first.
So: software download at www.logotel.com
for creating VOIP acc and to create virtual number use: http://sip.logotell.com/Logotell/OnlineShop/VSContainer.swf?module=signup2&state=portal
I am using software on Nokia E52 and works perfect. Unfortunately there is still no software for windows OS based phones so my old HTC is still only using SIM... :-(
As I heard from Android users thy say it works super and calls are very good.
Never heard of it, I'll try it asap. Does it use landlines or so for routing the call for free? Or do you just get 5mins free calltime when signing up.
EDIT: It has a neat UI, but haven't done any tests yet as I'm at work atm.
@OP: Are you always calling for free or just very low cost and is this another Skype/Truphone/Sipdroid/Rebtel/CSipSimple/magicjack application with low-cost call over 3G/Wifi?
Thanks in advance for you reply.
It is like this. If you use your cell via Wifi to oher user hooked on internet it is for free just as Skype etc. Otherwise if you want to call you will have low cost calls.
Tha is for now. Maybe it would be posibille to make some routing with other VOIP provider. bo...?
I also took their travel SIM card without roaming (so now everybody can bother me on cell when I am out of country)
Good if you are lot out of country.
Indeed this looks like a decent VoiP provider I have to agree.
I am using voip now for more then 12 years ;-) (at home that is)
I found some app's for voip on Android, to use whit voip(buster) etc, u can configure them.
can i use this whit other voip providers?
Could be.
Well if somenone finds some Voip for WindowsMobile I would be gratefull

[Q] Hutchison Three Skype for WP7 (Skype for 3 Network)

Hi,
As some skype users may know Hutchison Three UK (mobile operator) has its own version of Skype which doesn't need VoIP to call,they have their servers for calls,their version of Skype is free to use and even no need to top up your phone!
This Skype app is available on Symbian3, Symbian s60 and Android, Windows Mobile (hack), but I want this on WP7 as this is a really genius app,there are no dropouts no delays and no 3G/WiFI data is involved to make a voice call.
This skype doesn't drain a battery too, which is why it's a best solution if you talk with SkypeOut quite a lot. Basically it works like a calling card,each of your contacts has its own number with extension (Three mobile server numbers). So you just buy any supported phone (even a cheap one pay&go) and use Skype voice and chat. You doesn't have to top up eather.
My question is...
Who's actually developing this skype? I know on symbian s60 it was iSkoot, on Android it's joltid?
The thing is this Skype can probably work on WP7 devices without Mango update, as this solution is no VOIP..
What is the best way to get information about development? Any thoughts? Maybe someone can port it?
P.S. Verzion (US mobile operator) also has such skype and their servers.
Thanks
I've talk to Three and that's what they've told me: "They no longer use iskoot - Skype develop everything now." ThreeUK
As I can see they eather don't know about future development, or they stopped doing it.. In a last case it will be a shame, cause like I've said. This skype is so unique..
Perhaps someone can port this app to wp7? There are .sys .apk and java apps.
Main idea is to get algorithm of how it actually add extensions to your skype contacts.
Remember I've told in my post about three servers, so here's numbers: incoming: 07838333600 and outgoing: 07838333602. If you dial just them it gives you error. So I think there is extension adding automatically, but I'm not sure how it's done.. This is a three server numbers

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