Internet Calling - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

As stupid as it may sound, can someone please tell me how internet calling on WM6 on universe works? Do i need a VoIP provider, wireless internet, etc. I have read the help but still cant figure it out. Please help. Thanks

you need a WLAN network, most of all, that's obvious.
However, whether WM6 carries its SIP-program onboard or if you have to install another VoIP program, I don't know...
If it doesn't, I recommend Fring: it's free to download, costs €10 for unlimited calls to non-Fring numbers, and it's generally an all-round cool and stable program.

mzalan said:
you need a WLAN network, most of all, that's obvious.
However, whether WM6 carries its SIP-program onboard or if you have to install another VoIP program, I don't know...
If it doesn't, I recommend Fring: it's free to download, costs €10 for unlimited calls to non-Fring numbers, and it's generally an all-round cool and stable program.
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thanx buddy. Will check fring out. I installed it sometime back but took no notice of it.

you could try using sjphone, it allowed you to input the parameters and create profiles for various voip providers...pretty stable and decent application.

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Skype or sip client

Hey hey
Have any tried to install skype on there Tornado and got it to work?? Or are there any SIP client there can work on a smartphone??
I want to use my Tornado as a IP phone when I'm home!
Kind regards
Jimmi Wolff
it works on my tornado..try this link
http://oregonstate.edu/~keiterk/?p=9
I use some prog for SIP but it's in Russian. Do u need it?
hey
mustafin, the SIP client you have which is in russian, could you please upload it to here so that perhaps someone can work on translating it into english
how does it work? does it allow you to use your sp5 as a voip handset through your existing voip account?
thanx
mustafin said:
I use some prog for SIP but it's in Russian. Do u need it?
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I will be much obliged to you if you can give it to me
Could you please also send it to me [email protected]. I appreciate.
What about the BeWIP client?
Sure, it's in french, but I bet you can use it for any WM smartphone. Do a google search, it's supposed to work on the Tornado.
personally, I've been using SJphone for Pocket PC, but ripped out the needed files and ran it on my SP5m.
It works well, but the interface is awkward since it was designed for a touch screen.
Has anyone found anything that works well and was designed for smartphone?
Download the Skype 2.2 for tornado and it works excellent. No delays or echo found..
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_smart_beta.html
Let me know how it works ?
yeah, I've used it.
I meant SIP so i can bring my existing VoIP provider with me.
I have GoSIP but again it's a french client
I'd give it a shot... I took a little french in high school...
Still looking for sip client for my sp5m. I installed Skype (not sip) and its working great. However, I would like to tap a sip client to our VOIP system we have at wrok.
SJ Labs - Did not releas one yet
All other I saw, are asking you to connect to a pre-define SIP server
Any help/tip is welcome.
sebbes said:
I have GoSIP but again it's a french client
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I tried to get it form their site, but it seems that they want me to download it in stages through SMS (my french is rusty, but that's what it looks like).
Do you have the complete .exe or something that I could try?
Skype works for me
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Skype works for me
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Hey Acsguitar.
I think you're missing the point here...
Sure, you can have skype call a landline for a fee, and even have your own incoming number for another fee... But those of us who already have a regular VoIP-based landline phone number (such as with vonage or broadvoice) can call through their already existing service using their already existing number with the proper SIP compatible softphone.
I am able to take my home number with me when I travel using SJphone, but because it doesn't have a smartphone version, the interface is a bit buggy when you run it. I'm looking for something smoother.
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Hey Acsguitar.
I think you're missing the point here...
Sure, you can have skype call a landline for a fee, and even have your own incoming number for another fee... But those of us who already have a regular VoIP-based landline phone number (such as with vonage or broadvoice) can call through their already existing service using their already existing number with the proper SIP compatible softphone.
I am able to take my home number with me when I travel using SJphone, but because it doesn't have a smartphone version, the interface is a bit buggy when you run it. I'm looking for something smoother.
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Try WengoMobile, I have found it useful thus far.
Got One
Hey Guys
Been using this Software from Peer 2 Phone for a while now and it works fine with my Voiptalk account, only downside is you have to ask them very nicely for it on an individual basis, and then they E-Mail it to you, there website address is: http://www.peer2phone.com/telephony.html
Hope you all have the success that I have with this SIP client, happy Hunting chaps,
Kind Regards Ashe
sion said:
Hey Guys
Been using this Software from Peer 2 Phone for a while now and it works fine with my Voiptalk account, only downside is you have to ask them very nicely for it on an individual basis, and then they E-Mail it to you, there website address is: http://www.peer2phone.com/telephony.html
Hope you all have the success that I have with this SIP client, happy Hunting chaps,
Kind Regards Ashe
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Can you post it?
No!
You have to E-Mail them for the software, I am sorry I respect peoples software rights, I am just a bit ethical that way, however they will not have a problem, in fact they will be more that delighted to send you the software if you E-Mail them,
Kind Regards Ashe

Instant Message (Chat) Software options

I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.
As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.
I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )
Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...
Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?
Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
thedubya914 said:
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum
There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc
malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
alfredtv said:
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned
hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)
I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
cyberstraz said:
RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.
so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?

Symbol WM Phone Edition devices

OK, I know this is primarily an HTC-focused site, but I also know that some of the best WM brains are on this site so we're reaching out for help.
A customer of ours is looking to BLOCK all inbound calls from a MC9063 device (Sprint CDMA, WM2003 PE). They wish to maintain the ability to dial outbound but eliminate the possibility for all inbound calls.
Do you guys know any ways to do this (via typical settings or even registry hacks)? Are there any WM tools out there that would allow more specific control of the WWAN radio features than what is offered with Microsoft's controls?
try magicall
_Nomad_ said:
try magicall
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Thanks Nomad! I'm going to check this out today. From the info on the site, it looks like it may be close to what we're looking for. Great suggestion.

video calling using Polaris

Hi guys,
Is there any software which allows video calling on windows mobile?
Thank you!
You mean other than dialer included?
The dialer included only uses 3G, I think yallow means over any other network like Wi-Fi. There was one company who did that (forgot the name), but no demo or so, you know that kind of closed company which asks ridiculous prices for crappy software
I wished only Skype would port the video to mobile... BTW Live Messenger should have incorporated voice calls too, to compete against Skype (of course, I like the way it is, prefer Skype over Microsoft big time )
Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)
Good news, I've searched my history and found it
--> http://www.tabletmedia.com/ <--
I think this is what you want.
There is a trial I see now:
Voice only, no messaging, video or dual-mode support.
Includes G.711, G.722 and MS-GSM speech codecs.
Windows Mobile 2003 to 6.0
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The Internet can come on 3G or Wi-Fi. If you are looking for Video chatting over LAN (in this case wirelessLAN or bluetooth), thats a different story. Please be more specific next time.
M$ and Skype won't integrate the video functionality until there's a higher 3G coverage over the countries. The datarate is just too small on GPRS for Video chatting, and M$ is still several steps behind Skype in this field
gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.
yallow said:
Yes, I mean video calling over internet, not 3G.
It is a pity, SabbeRubbish, you forgot the name of that software. I would buy it and share my experience. =)
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Video calling over internet.. Very interseting.. Can you tell me how to do it?
AT&T Wireless
I was doing my own due diligence on this subject matter and figured that there is a way to utilitze the front camera on the TC.
Have you guys checked out AT&T's video calling?
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/attvideoshare.jsp
So far they list certain compatible phones, but do you think that it will work with the TC?
Seems like it works for 3G phones such as the TC...
-Julian P. Yun
yallow said:
gnick666,
Do you really think it matters for the software where the Internet comes from (3G or Wifi or GPRS or whatever)? I don't think so. That's different ISO/OSI layers. Why do you ask me to be more specific if you don't have any answer?
SabbeRubbish, many many thanks. I'll check this out tomorrow.
Regards.
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You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!
SabbeRubbish said:
You're welcome.
About the OSI layers, it obviously matters where internet comes from as the video calling (standard HTC) comes ONLY through 3G. So there is some kind of difference, but I think this is mainly a commercial difference: immagine how much more money operators will make if everyone starts making 3G video calls!
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Not only that, there were some programs that used a Local network (not the internet) for video calling... of course the were derailed before being implemented....
I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).
yallow said:
I will not insist, that's just my IMHO. I think that video-software just gets an interface to send data through. The only question here is bandwidth. Theoretically it should work over any internet connection with enough bandwidth (HSDPA, WiFi, USB-PC, etc...).
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I agree, truly. But obviously most software wants to handle connections themselves or so. Anyhow, my before mentioned solution DOES work on LAN, just don't know if it's affordable.
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
You can download it (from the download section) and use it for free (or with an account just like skype)after registering for free as a Free Member from here : http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
With "Route 60" activated (as a distributor) u can even call for free to 60 countries on fixed phones (from which 6 countries on fixed AND MOBILES for free)
I call then free from mi 3gphone to fixed phones, to 3gphones and also even to computers having the correspondent software from Telme installed (Deskcall NG)
I tried fring with voipstunt and voipbuster, I could not find my Voip contactlist and was not convinced so I uninstalled it.
If someone gets a better result I would be happy to know it.
My telme nickname is 3gcedel in my Polaris and cedel in the deskcall if u want to call me. Or 1800-3501540 (Virtual SIM number if I'm not connected)
or 3g1800-3501540 (same as 3gcedel) when I'm connected in 3g
cedel said:
I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
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Strange. Mine always times out while connecting
Weird Problem
I've been trying to get my TC to make video calls to a Nokia 6280 and it's a no go. The weird part is that I also have a N70 and I can make a call from the Polaris to the N70 and also from the N70 to the 6280. So all my phones work but the Polaris and the 6280 don't work together. When I try I get a connection but no sound and no image. Any ideas? I already tried different roms and already switched sim cards.

VOIP free calls via mobile Android phones

HY to all. I know from time to time someone is looking for some VOIP options for mobile phones just as I was looking for it.
I will leave you link for downloading software for mobile and how to install it. Using is simple
I came out with very new brand and type of service for VOIP calls via all devices you can find including mobiles but unfortunately not all mobiles can work with that sowftware, more preiclisly there is no software for all types of mobiles just Android, Symbian and Iphone OS based phones.
Here you can find rates and software: www.logotell.com and here you can make VOIP account http://www.logotell.com/backoffice/?q=services
As I asked paying for vouchers for credit via Paypall and credit cards is in progress and it will be ready in few days (I hope).
IMPORTANT
Only thing to know is when you are making account at logotell.com it will ask you for "Sponsor's username:" so please put "hrga" as you got info from me . Later when you sugest to someone else he can put your user name (benefits you will find by yourself).
You can make VOIP account without registration at logotell just for free calls but if you want to buy credit you ll need to register and fill form. I suggest making acc at logotell first.
So: software download at www.logotel.com
for creating VOIP acc and to create virtual number use: http://sip.logotell.com/Logotell/OnlineShop/VSContainer.swf?module=signup2&state=portal
I am using software on Nokia E52 and works perfect. Unfortunately there is still no software for windows OS based phones so my old HTC is still only using SIM... :-(
As I heard from Android users thy say it works super and calls are very good.
Never heard of it, I'll try it asap. Does it use landlines or so for routing the call for free? Or do you just get 5mins free calltime when signing up.
EDIT: It has a neat UI, but haven't done any tests yet as I'm at work atm.
@OP: Are you always calling for free or just very low cost and is this another Skype/Truphone/Sipdroid/Rebtel/CSipSimple/magicjack application with low-cost call over 3G/Wifi?
Thanks in advance for you reply.
It is like this. If you use your cell via Wifi to oher user hooked on internet it is for free just as Skype etc. Otherwise if you want to call you will have low cost calls.
Tha is for now. Maybe it would be posibille to make some routing with other VOIP provider. bo...?
I also took their travel SIM card without roaming (so now everybody can bother me on cell when I am out of country)
Good if you are lot out of country.
Indeed this looks like a decent VoiP provider I have to agree.
I am using voip now for more then 12 years ;-) (at home that is)
I found some app's for voip on Android, to use whit voip(buster) etc, u can configure them.
can i use this whit other voip providers?
Could be.
Well if somenone finds some Voip for WindowsMobile I would be gratefull

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