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Hi XDAers
I am hoping this is the right place to announce my first Android app. If not then please do accept my apologies in advance.
YAPT is a simple & free voice messaging Android application that enables sending short voice messages from one YAPT user to another.
Its abit like Push to Talk and not like Push to Talk - for want of a better description . Its different from Push To Talk in that voice messages are handled like emails - so these are received in your YAPT inbox (with notifications) and can be replied to at your convenience.
I built YAPT because I love the idea of Push to Talk but find it inconvenient that anyone can contact me and my Android's speaker phone could burst into full volume at any instant.
Search for YAPT in the android market or visit yapt.net for more information and release notes.
Like I said, this is my first Android (and mobile phone application) so a few bits will be abit rough or might not work.
Any feedback or suggestions would be more than appreciated.
Finally, I hope someone finds this app useful .
Hi XDAers.
Sorry for replying to my own post .
Just a quick update to mention that the 1.1 version development is under way. Some features I hope might be useful:
Extend voice message limit length from 10 to 20 seconds
Ability to send images (might have to limit image size - 50k?)
Ability to send text messages
Improve contact listing - it is abit spartan ATM... add contact photo for example
Threaded message view
Other ideas greatly appreciated .
I think the #1 issue that would keep me from using this app more often is that it lacks push notifications. To truly be useful, it needs to be almost instantaneous, and 5 minute polling seems like it will take a toll on the battery. Although we'll try it out for a week or so and see what happens. I applaud the effort, as it does fill an unmet need.
Doesn't the android SDK have a push notification framework?
Hi tdiman.
Thanks for the feedback .
Doesn't the android SDK have a push notification framework?
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I would love to use Android's C2DM but unfortunately that is only available in Froyo, which makes it abit tricky as I am trying to support 1.6 <-> 2.2 devices ATM. There might be alternatives so I will investigate this so more.
Polling can be taken down to 30 seconds but that would stop the device from sleeping, which would drain the battery. Like you said, the default is to poll every 5 minutes which shouldn't wake the device up too often.
Cheers.
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I would love to use Android's C2DM but unfortunately that is only available in Froyo, which makes it abit tricky as I am trying to support 1.6 <-> 2.2 devices ATM.
Cheers.
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More than half of active Android devices are on 2.1 and it won't be long before 2.2 is the majority.
I think this has an amazing potential, keep up the good work.
Hi dlaciv12.
I think I found a possible solution to push notifications using IBM's MQTT protocol, which would work on 1.6 <-> 2.2 devices.
I am going to revisit this early-mid next week once I get the bulk of the 1.1 release done in the next few days. I'll either tag this onto the end of 1.1 or as the first feature of 1.2
Again, thank you both for the suggestions and the encouragement .
Do you have to use your cellphone number or can you use your Google Voice number?
Hi NeedoZ
Do you have to use your cellphone number or can you use your Google Voice number?
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That does depend on which number is used when someone wants to contact you. I live in the UK and haven't used Google Voice (we don't have it here).
Do they ring your Google Voice number, which then directs the call to your cellphone? If so then I would use the Google Voice number and not your cellphone number.
Currently there is no way to change your registered number - I am working on adding a "handset management" feature to the yapt.net website.
Cheers.
Push
To avoid having to poll, and for those who have push email setup on their phone already (eg with the gmail app), could you catch the arrival of new mail from the mail app rather than polling the server independently?
It's just an idea and I'm well out of my technical depth, but thought I'd put it forward. Feel free to shoot it down!
Why can't you make an OPTION to have Android push (C2DM) technology for Android 2.2+ device?
Because at the end, most devices will be upgraded to 2.2 anyway.
If you just stick with the old polling method (or any other fancy IBM push thingy), your app would be outdated by then. I can imagine more and more app will move to Android C2DM.
Why not you BE THE FIRST to have this wonderful Android C2DM ... Certainly, your app will be the most talked about.
Imagine, easy to use voice messaging for Android which uses push technology!
Back to your app, how many voice messaging will user get per day?
For me? probably none 1 or 2 ... And I dont want my device to draw battery power by polling every 5 minutes just for that. User will be put-off and scared ... your app will not be popular.
So, make an option. A checkbox [ ] Use Android Push ...
Implement a nice and easy to use GUI ...
You will be the winner!
Believe me, BE THE FIRST ... be the first ....................................
Hi themuddler and gogol
I am currently working on Push notification as opposed to polling.
I'll post updates to this thread and probably requests for beta testers .
Cheers.
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Why can't you make an OPTION to have Android push (C2DM) technology for Android 2.2+ device?
Because at the end, most devices will be upgraded to 2.2 anyway....
...Believe me, BE THE FIRST ... be the first ....................................
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Nice Speech gogol!
I own WM ... Sad
Hi all.
Just a quick update to say that after several days hit & miss I've finally got Push notifications working for Android 1.6 <-> 2.2 devices! Wohoooo!!
It actually makes quite a difference that voice messages are received in a matter of seconds. Thanks for the great suggestion!
I'm going to leave the new build running on my handset overnight to see what the battery impact is before I publish it to the Market tomorrow morning (if all goes well).
I've attached the beta YAPT to this thread if any brave and kind souls would like to test this as well.
I'll keep the thread updated.
Time for a beer I think...
Edit - Still needs some more testing.... attachment removed... for safety.
"Good news everyone!!"
YAPT 1.0.10 has just been uploaded to the Market. The 1.0.10 release replaces message polling with a push notification mechanism.
In short this means that new voice message notifications should appear within five seconds of them being sent.
In the end I did not use Google's C2DM as that is only available for Android 2.2. I've put in abit of effort in making YAPT compatible with 1.6 <-> 2.2 phones and wanted the same to apply to the Push Notification mechanism.... so I rolled my own that should work for all 1.6 to 2.2 Android devices.
Please upgrade to 1.0.10 and give the new Push notification functionality a try. Any help in stress testing this new code would be very much appreciated.
Again, please report any problems you have or add new suggests to this thread. . Keep the good suggestions coming .
Next task is redesigning and tweaking the UI.
What kind of push technology do you use?
And how scalable is it? I know C2DM is pretty much scalable because it is using Google own servers.
WhatsApp is using C2DM for 2.2 users, and I believe it (will be able) can send audio messages as well.
What's the advantage of your YAPT compare to WhatsApp?
Hi Gogol.
What kind of push technology do you use?
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YAPT uses HTTP Streaming. It should work pretty much the same as C2DM (although no doubt Google's implementation is more elegant than mine). Basically YAPT keeps a low-level connection open to the server, even when it is asleep. The phone is woken up to retrieve a new message only when a new message notification is sent to the phone.
I'll revisit C2DM once Android 2.2 gains wider market share.
And how scalable is it?
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It should be pretty scalable. I've tested 10,000 concurrent connections without any issues (except on my client PC which was opening the 10,000 connections). I've set an upper limit of 1,000,000 concurrent connections on the server for the time being.
What's the advantage of your YAPT compare to WhatsApp?
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I am not familiar with WhatsApp so can't comment. The only thing I can say is that YAPT supports Android 1.6 and upwards in regards to voice messaging and now instant notifications on new messages
I am working to add many more features to YAPT (i.e sending text, images, video etc) once the current code base stabilises.
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Hi XDAers.
Sorry for replying to my own post .
Just a quick update to mention that the 1.1 version development is under way. Some features I hope might be useful:
Extend voice message limit length from 10 to 20 seconds
Ability to send images (might have to limit image size - 50k?)
Ability to send text messages
Improve contact listing - it is abit spartan ATM... add contact photo for example
Threaded message view
Other ideas greatly appreciated .
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I like the new push notifications. My biggest suggestion now is to figure a way to limit the number of steps needed to send a message. "Push to talk" gives users the expectation of a quick and simple way to send voice notes.
For example, the steps to send a message include:
1) Run YAPT
2) Push Menu
3) Push Record New Voice Message
4) Hold down button/volume and record message
5) Hit contacts button, a few more buttons to select contact
6) click save
7) Click Menu
8) Click sync to send off
9) Exit app
What about sync-on-save so that you don't have to send the messages in your outbox, so the functionality mirrors text/mms better? This would eliminate 2 steps.
A way to change the default screen to record new message would remove another 2 steps.
What if you had a "record new message" widget (premium version, perhaps)? You push down on the widget, it records the message, and then pops up a (perhaps user defined? or "favorites"?) sender list, you select the sender, and then its done. 2 steps, message sent. Or even better, have the widget tied to a contact.
These are just suggestions - I'm sure you can think of other better or easier to implement ways to streamline the sending process, but I think that it is crucial for more widespread adoption.
excellent suggestions !
Or how about you go the route that Palringo uses to send Voice messages instantly!!! It's almost like a walkie talkie!!
Cause at the end of the day, People want to be able to use your app and that voice feature instantly with as little steps as possible!!
Keep up the good work though!!
Hi tdiman.
tdiman said:
I like the new push notifications. My biggest suggestion now is to figure a way to limit the number of steps needed to send a message. "Push to talk" gives users the expectation of a quick and simple way to send voice notes.
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I do agree that the process can be far more streamlined than it currently is and your excellent suggestions will most definitely help with that.
I should have an update out in the next day or so that implements some, if not all, of these (except the widget - I love the idea but will save it for after the 1.1 UI update release).
Cheers.
PingChat 2 has been officially out for iPhone, Blackberry and Android for a while now. It's free and ad-supported I think (not sure).
Who have been using it? I'm currently on WhatsApp, but it's kind hard to convert friends to that as it's a paid app.
Here's a more official post:
PingChat! 2 now available for Android, Blackberry, iPhone, iPod and iPad
Revolutionizing Mobile Cross-Platform Instant Messaging
PingChat! 2 is now available on Android and Blackberry and has once again expand its already powerful capabilities to include:
-Media messaging (pictures and video)
-Group messaging
-Voice Notes
-Gorgeous new user interface
-Location messaging (send locations via google maps)
-New servers and infrastructure to improve reliability
-Android specific – Find your PingChat! friends with the phone registration feature
Video Demo:
Photobucket: http://s786.photobucket.com/albums/yy143/enflick/
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One of the big advantages of whatsapp is that people subscribe with their phonenumber, so you immediately see everbody who has whatsapp. This is really a problem with pingchat, yes it free, but why would people use this?
I have tried to pursuade some people but the most common thing you'll hear is this:
"But all my friends have whatsapp."
Personally I really like pingchat, very nice layout, easy to use and best of all, FREE. Although i'm using whatsapp beta for free now as well. I'm still trying to get people over to pingchat.
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I'm still trying to get people over to pingchat.
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That seems the most problematic thing for me as well...
I won't use it until pingchat allows multi login.
I've been using it with friends. It's been great, but what would be awesome would be the ability to add a user to an already in progress group chat. I have a forum of people who all follow a sports team, and we've been using it to discuss team news and happenings. Every time someone new joins, i have to close the current chat and reinvite 20 people into a new chat.
Can I know can HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) use pingchat.. is there any link to download if is useable..been searching alot of site but can find any..
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Can I know can HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) use pingchat.. is there any link to download if is useable..been searching alot of site but can find any..
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The Touch HD uses Windows Mobile.
PingChat is only for Android, Blackberry and iPhone.
Hello,
I'm new here and I see a very smart guys around...I would like you to challange to give me some new, fresh ideas of apps/widgets. Doesn't matter how strage, crazy or funny is!
Can you do this?
Best regards
1) A srollable widget in witch you can place icons or other widgets so it acts like an app drawer
2) An app that can control an other android device like a remote control (already there for pc's). For axample: you can control your tablet that is connected to a tv.
As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
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As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
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MrAsk said:
As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
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I don't think that would be possible with an application.
I think thats more of something that would need to be developed by the website owners.
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I don't think that would be possible with an application.
I think thats more of something that would need to be developed by the website owners.
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You obviously know nothing of image recognition. That's actually quite a simple task, for a seasoned developer, using existing (and publicly available) libraries.
Maybe not actual clothing, but it could certainly cover nudity.
make a widget 1x1, 2x1, 4x1 size (or any suitable) that shows missed call count, unread sms and emails
should display something like:
(in 1 row) 2 calls, 1 sms, 2 emails
or
(in a column)
2 calls
1 sms
2 emails
or
instead of text, put small icons
then ability to hide if count is zero or change color if number is greater than zero.
don't forget to have ability to choose email inbox (if many are used)
for 2x1 widget, add ability to have battery percentage display and next alarm (this can easily fit if icons for missed, unread "stuff" is used)
The idea is to have a small, yet very informative widget that packs only important information: missed call, unread sms and email, battery level, next alarm. and ability to configure each information (color, position, icon, ability to hide)
I'm sure if this is implemented (or at least 50%), people will like it!
Nothing crazy but just a music control widget (► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop) for google listen and maybe a universal control for whatever is playing at the moment.
Great!!! Keep it up!!!
Thank you guys!!! Very nice.
You are creative minds, more ideas, please, come on!!!
I would like to develop a very good application, original, useful and funny and can offer a prize (like money) for the best idea.
I think I can set up a "Top 20" Ideas and to the first 3 some to offer prizes.
What do you think?
Best regards
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Nothing crazy but just a music control widget (► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop) for google listen and maybe a universal control for whatever is playing at the moment.
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What do you mean google listen? Can more detailed explain?
Beast regards
Kikvorsman said:
1) A srollable widget in witch you can place icons or other widgets so it acts like an app drawer
2) An app that can control an other android device like a remote control (already there for pc's). For axample: you can control your tablet that is connected to a tv.
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Interesting...
1. Do you mean a launcher? There are some very good launchers (LauncherPro).
2. Like an Android Remote Control (something like VNC or Remote Desktop)?
Beast regards
I have one, and that, is to create music controls from the notification bar. Not sure if it involves a widget ;/ but would be great if someone could make it possible.
From a device that's quite unique. The backflip.
Doesn't simi folder widget already cover 1?
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Augmented reality?
What about augmented reality? Some ideas? What is your opinion about it?
Something using sensors, camera, gps?
No offense - if some people know more than others, it doesn't mean they have got a license to degrade others. Come on add some wit and real fun in your lives too. He said go crazy and give ideas, every body participated just like I did. At least my words made some of you smile and I believe what I wanted, I got.
I just wrote to make such application in fun; but since now top 3 ideas gonna have some prize too, so I'm gonna think deeply after my Monday's exam Chill folks.
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No offense - if some people know more than others, it doesn't mean they have got a license to degrade others. Come on add some wit and real fun in your lives too. He said go crazy and give ideas, every body participated just like I did. At least my words made some of you smile and I believe what I wanted, I got.
I just wrote to make such application in fun; but since now top 3 ideas gonna have some prize too, so I'm gonna think deeply after my Monday's exam Chill folks.
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Very good!!! Do it!!! And thank you!
Best regard
I'm looking for a app that fixes Parse Issues! Sometimes when I'm "Trying" to Install Certain Apps I've Downloaded I Can't... Because I get that Stupid "Parse Message"!
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[Q] about Gun bros
I am motorola milestone user and I use CM7 11-02-18 's ROM. I have problem with GUN BROS game I can not play it.I can open the game but when the game try loading to begin it crash to desktop .Someone help me please.i like this game.
thank you
Please please please please please make a Google Talk widget! Tons of people want this but it seems like no one is up for making a widget.
A good widget would maybe being able to view your messages or quickly reply to messages using the widget without launching gTalk itself.
Going further, maybe a better gTalk client in itself that allows for popup windows and quick replies. There are tons of apps/widgets like this for SMS, just wish gTalk got some love as it is used fairly widely.
I'd say it would be a surefire way to rake in some dough as there is absolutely no competition on the market. There is only client available is the official gTalk client (not counting multi-protocol IM clients) and only 1 gTalk widget on the market (status changer).
How about the ability to take a picture of documents with your camera and be able to use the data in excel. Sort of a text to column app using your camera. $$$
Recently i was going through some msging apps nd i found a app called catfiz in it.:highfive::fingers-crossed:
The look nd the feel of this app is same of BBM In fact some of the features are aslo same I m in love with this app. This app isnt jut a msger but also has some social networking featues. Do try it once nd Dont Forget to ADD me THIS IS MY PIN 80F9B2A102
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Start Using Catfiz for Voice Chat And In Call recorder For Call Recording Today. Hurry. Both are Free and Fun.
SPREAD THE WORD FAST.:good::good::good:
Actually, BBM is indeed coming to Android/iOS platforms. Thanks for the share.
Don't bother yourself. Because an official BBM Messenger is coming soon to android.
Check this out: BlackBerry confirms BBM is coming to iOS and Android this summer
And this: BlackBerry Plans To Launch BBM Across Multiple Platforms This Summer
Howdy! I'll start off by introducing myself: I'm NA (or Moon, your choice), and yes I'm pretty dang old around here.
I've been modding kik for longer than I'd care to admit, as you can see from the original post date of Moonkik.
Today I'm here to deliver you Moonkik2!
But there's a catch. This mod was never finished.
Mid-summer 2018, Kik released a server update that added the "Username Unavailable" feature to keep the spam bots from pm'ing accounts. At that time, it rendered all existing older versions of kik unable to message users from public groups. This included the mod I had spent 90+ hours theming: Moonkik2.
I'll lay it out straight. I'm disheartened. This mod was never finished completely, but I swear to you I put all my love and devotion into it.
What lies ahead is as follows:
- Lovingly crafted theme
- Disable "Is Typing..."
- Disable Read Receipts
- Disable Delivered Receipts
- Fake Camera (multi-select works with it too)
- Theme Changer
- Custom chat background pictures
- Per Chat Settings (UNFINISHED. This means all of the above mods including the theme can be enabled/disabled/changed for each individual user you interact with. HOWEVER, because it is unfinished, once you change a setting for an individual user, that setting will override your global default setting forever. There is also no way to see which settings are overridden.
- Username unavailable issue (Not a feature, but you should be aware that this will be a problem for you because this mod is on a version made before that update)
There is also a small network bug which may cause the app to crash in the background if you lose cell service.
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9w5m6p0tnudhc22/moonkik2_sample2.apk?dl=1
Preview Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/oO8y24H
Note about the Per-Chat settings: If you can't see the user's username when you press the "Moonkik Options" button on their profile, the options you pick won't stick. You will only see their username if you're accessing the page from PM info, or a private group.
For now, you get the app as-is. I do not have any official plans to continue it, but someday I may very well update it and add the original features I'd intended to add to this mod.
Now that you know what you're getting in to, if you still choose to download my much loved mod, I really do hope you enjoy it. It makes me happy that some of you will get to enjoy that month of work I put in.
If you need help understanding the per-chat settings or have any other questions, feel free to join #Moonkik2.0 and I'll do my best to answer.
Have a nice day,
-Moon
Messages backup?
Happy and sad I found this. I've been scavenging the net for just one reliable method to keep all my messages in kik instead of the app deleting them after arbitrary amounts. Or even just one reliable backup method besides screenshots. I'm trying yours out now. Will this delete my messages eventually too after a limit? Any advice on backing that up? Thank you for your work and I'm sorry to hear such a great project hit the brakes.
Beautiful, sexy as ****!
Thanks for this!
Whats the best way to send custom gif's via moonkik2, giphy does not recognize this as a Kik app
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Whats the best way to send custom gif's via moonkik2, giphy does not recognize this as a Kik app
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Hi there! Are you by any chance the guy who just got removed from our group? If so, I'M SO SORRY. My bot-detector is moody sometimes. Do join back <3|
As far as your gif question, I'm actually clueless. It should be recognized just like kik.
How can I use fake camera? I event don't see live chat option