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[Q] Why is it so hard to find a stable rom?

I have tried virtually every type of rom in search of one that is stable, and I can't find one! I've tried froyo sense, gingerbread sense, CM6.1, CM7, MIUI 2.2/2.3. I don't even bother to try overclocking anymore, but all of the roms suffer from random reboots and random app crashing. I'm starting to believe there is some kind of hardware problem with my phone as I never had this many problems with my original desire or the hero before that.
It's not like I do anything crazy with my phone either, I run:
2 gmail accounts
twitter
linkedin
weather app
documents to go
no games
Am I alone with this, or are there others out there in a similar situation? All I want (ideally) is a vanilla 2.2 or 2.3 rom that is just STABLE.

I have tried alot of the ROMS for this phone. I really don't have any problems at all, since going to the MIUI ROM I haven't had a crash yet. And before that maybe only 1 or 2 a week.

I have yet to have stability issues... Are you wiping all user data, clearing cache, and clearing dalvik before flashing a new ROM

I have had random quirks here and there, but no more then I did on the stock rom. I had more fcs on the stock rom then i have had with any custom rom I have tried.

mudknot2005 said:
I have had random quirks here and there, but no more then I did on the stock rom. I had more fcs on the stock rom then i have had with any custom rom I have tried.
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i'm with you on this....i have had very, very few force closes with stock or cooked roms, but i did have lots of random lag with the stock rom. This is initially what made me finally root and flash. I had quite a few small problems with MIUI and CM7, but have had nothing but great things to say about CoreDroid.

I have had absolutely no problems with the two roms I've been flip flopping between (CM7 and Cognition). Every time I change though, I make sure to do a reset, cache wipe, dalvik wipe to make sure I'm doing a clean install. I'm not 100% sure what doing all that means, but a lot of the devs specify it in their instructions, and I'm sure they know more than me!
Maybe get back to stock everything, and then try flashing either CM7 or Cognition? Although I hear others are stable as well, these are the only two I've tried.
(I'm using cognition right now, but I am not running it overclocked. I scaled it back down to 1000 with setcpu.)

To those who asked, yes, I'm wiping cache/dalvik, etc. Every time I flash a new rom. I can handle the occasional app crashing or FC, but the thing that drives me nuts is when everything locks up and drops back to the boot screen (not a "full" reboot).
Ah well, maybe i'll try cognition or Core and see how things go.
I keep hoping an AOSP rom will pop up because the best rom i had ever used was oxygen for the original desire. Rock solid, and fast.

I can't help but to wonder what your exact flash method is. Because, like the others here, I too have had no problems with any of the roms at all. I've gone a whole month without a single FC while using 3 or 4 different roms.

Dashaiva said:
To those who asked, yes, I'm wiping cache/dalvik, etc. Every time I flash a new rom. I can handle the occasional app crashing or FC, but the thing that drives me nuts is when everything locks up and drops back to the boot screen (not a "full" reboot).
Ah well, maybe i'll try cognition or Core and see how things go.
I keep hoping an AOSP rom will pop up because the best rom i had ever used was oxygen for the original desire. Rock solid, and fast.
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I'm behind on the terminology, but how is CM7 not AOSP? I thought AOSP stood for Android Open Source Project or something. AKA "pure", vanilla android.
Also, I think you might have a lemon of a device. If you're sure you are doing everything right and following instructions, I would see if I coul exchange your inspire.

Dashaiva said:
I have tried virtually every type of rom in search of one that is stable, and I can't find one! I've tried froyo sense, gingerbread sense, CM6.1, CM7, MIUI 2.2/2.3. I don't even bother to try overclocking anymore, but all of the roms suffer from random reboots and random app crashing. I'm starting to believe there is some kind of hardware problem with my phone as I never had this many problems with my original desire or the hero before that.
It's not like I do anything crazy with my phone either, I run:
2 gmail accounts
twitter
linkedin
weather app
documents to go
no games
Am I alone with this, or are there others out there in a similar situation? All I want (ideally) is a vanilla 2.2 or 2.3 rom that is just STABLE.
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I've been using CM7 since I got my Inspire in the first of March and I've not had any problems. That's with 120 apps and overclocked to 1300-1500MHz, too. I think you should exchange yours for a new one.
CM7 Inspire 4G

TheBassman369 said:
I've been using CM7 since I got my Inspire in the first of March and I've not had any problems. That's with 120 apps and overclocked to 1300-1500MHz, too. I think you should exchange yours for a new one.
CM7 Inspire 4G
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I too have tried a few other ROMs and always come back to CM7. I love the AOSP feel (vanilla Android is AWESOME) and I'm overclocked to 1.2Ghz and CM7 never FCs or resets itself. I had a few FCs and resets on other ROMs which made me miss the CM7 experience and simplicity. Yes Sense is the nicest Android skin but nothing IMO beats the experience CM7 gives you on this device!

acPIZZA said:
I'm behind on the terminology, but how is CM7 not AOSP? I thought AOSP stood for Android Open Source Project or something. AKA "pure", vanilla android.
Also, I think you might have a lemon of a device. If you're sure you are doing everything right and following instructions, I would see if I coul exchange your inspire.
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CM is not "pure" vanilla android.
As for the op's problem, I have minor issues occasionally with some roms but nothing like what you are experiencing.

Pandora and GB roms?

I'm currently using gingeritis beta 8 and am having some problems with Pandora.
When I open the app, it seems to take a while to load the first song and is unresponsive in general. Once the first song is played, it doesn't play the next song, I have to manually skip the song. Its unresponsive here as well.
Is anyone else on any gingerbread roms having this issue?
Also, amazon cloud player works flawlessly if that makes a difference.

mokitaco said:
I'm currently using gingeritis beta 8 and am having some problems with Pandora.
When I open the app, it seems to take a while to load the first song and is unresponsive in general. Once the first song is played, it doesn't play the next song, I have to manually skip the song. Its unresponsive here as well.
Is anyone else on any gingerbread roms having this issue?
Also, amazon cloud player works flawlessly if that makes a difference.
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Search the BAMF thread and you'll find that an awesome cubs fan uploaded pandora 1.5.6. Apparently, 1.5.7 doesn't work well with GB. 1.5.6 works much better according to the thread.

same problem here runnign DB2.0 v4.01, and I am using the lean kernel 2.5.4test4 by Imoseyon

Thanks for the reply. I've uninstalled 1.5.7 and installed the 1.5.6 apk linked in the BAMF thread and I am still experiencing the same problem.
My kernel is Imoseyon 2.5.4 test1

mokitaco said:
Thanks for the reply. I've uninstalled 1.5.7 and installed the 1.5.6 apk linked in the BAMF thread and I am still experiencing the same problem.
My kernel is Imoseyon 2.5.4 test1
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Same here. Still having the same issues using 1.5.6, except I'm using the 2.5.4 test4 kernel.
Here is the apk if anyone else wants to try.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4487305/Pandora_1.5.6_Gingerbread.apk

Yeah, this is a pretty big deal to those of us who listen to pandora all day. I've scoured through the BAMF and Gingeritis threads and everyones problems seem to be resolved by the 1.5.6 apk. That hasn't done the job on my phone Hopefully someone else has been able to get it working.

Yup. Same here. 1.5.6 with unlimited skips is cool, but has the same problems. Strangely enough 3g seems to load a little faster than 4g. Other than Pandora my 4g is obviously much faster. It's so frustrating I just avoid Pandora until this is fixed.
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Well... I thought I could be some help here when I read the title, but my Pandora is working flawlessly on Gingeritis VII. Maybe a permisions issue? I might hold off on VIII if its going to break Pandora though.

I fixed permissions in both Rom Manager and CWM Recovery, no change.

I get lag as well, there is a long break between songs.
One of the bugs we'll have to put up with for now

This may not be ROM specific. I stream pandora 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. Today I have been getting 15-30 second delays between songs and have had 2 random reboots.
I'm running CM7 pre-alpha build 4 and have been for about a month and haven't had any issues/reboots until today..

mokitaco said:
Thanks for the reply. I've uninstalled 1.5.7 and installed the 1.5.6 apk linked in the BAMF thread and I am still experiencing the same problem.
My kernel is Imoseyon 2.5.4 test1
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Sorry, I should have said that I haven't yet tried the fix. Some have said that it fixes the issue. I just tried it and I'm still having a lag.
Running BAMF 2.04 with leankernel 2.5.4 test 1
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What is pissing me off, is the FIRST thing I tested after installing this kernel yesterday was pandora, and then 4g. Both seemed to work perfectly, this morning however is not the same story.

There are 2 patterns here:
1) This is affecting GB roms only it seems
2) It started happening recently. Mine started yesterday.
Maybe it's a GB issue? Anyone else try it on Froyo recently? Perhaps it's a Pandora issue and it will work itself out?

Just got this to work for me. I iinstalled the APK, but when I started it, the version was still 1.5.7. I then did an uninstall in market, installed the APK, started and made sure it said 1.5.6 in the lower right startup screen. It now works.

Same issues for me on multiple GB leaked roms...

I've run into the same problem using band 2. While some seemed to quickly declare the issue solved by downgrading to the previous Pandora version, this did not solve the problem for me. I've tried .6 both by uninstalling .7 first as well as having it be the first version to hit a fresh bamf install. either way, i experience the Pandora delays.

Pandora is working fine for me on Das BAMF 2.0.4

what governor and speedtweak settings are people using that pandora works for?

can someone post the APK?

Annoying headset switching to mono

I have an annoying problem with my Inspire. I am running the latest CM7. No matter, because it did this on any/all iterations of CM7.
When listening to music with a stereo headset, every now and then, the phone has a glitch where it will for no reason turn the output signal from a stereo signal into what sounds like a mono. I have to pause the music, unplug my headphones (until the headphones icon disappears), then plug it back in again, which fixes it. It does this often enough to be an annoyance.
I've already tried different headphones, and it does it to all of them, so the issue is with the phone.
Does anyone else have this problem, and, if so, can you tell me how to fix it?
Thanks!

Just out of curiosity have you tried a fresh install? Almost every issue I've run into I've been able to cure by wiping everything and starting fresh.
Sent through the power of Cthulhu!

hungmung said:
Just out of curiosity have you tried a fresh install? Almost every issue I've run into I've been able to cure by wiping everything and starting fresh.
Sent through the power of Cthulhu!
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I haven't tried that so far with this phone, although I'm 100% certain it didn't help (as I'm on my second Inspire, the first one's vibrator was defective, and it used to do the same thing).

Ugh, annoying! It just did it 2 times already since then!

Have you tried a non CM based rom?

zelendel said:
Have you tried a non CM based rom?
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Now that is the one thing I have not tried. However, I only have 2 choices, right? It's either a CM7 based ROM or a Sense based ROM; all of them are based off those two.

ajm786 said:
Now that is the one thing I have not tried. However, I only have 2 choices, right? It's either a CM7 based ROM or a Sense based ROM; all of them are based off those two.
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Pretty much. But you can flash a sense rom and then run the no sense script if you want to try a sense rom but don't like sense

[Q] Low microphone?

Hey!
I have been having issues with my microphone on my LG G2X - I have it rooted, and it's running Miui - not sure what version... I have completely wiped and gone factory, but when I talk everyone can't hear me..... I bought it from a friend - who said he had problems - but it seemed to fix itself out..... Not sure what I can do.
Does anyone know how to increase the volume for a microphone? Or how to take it apart and fix it manually?

calebcoverdale said:
Hey!
I have been having issues with my microphone on my LG G2X - I have it rooted, and it's running Miui - not sure what version... I have completely wiped and gone factory, but when I talk everyone can't hear me..... I bought it from a friend - who said he had problems - but it seemed to fix itself out..... Not sure what I can do.
Does anyone know how to increase the volume for a microphone? Or how to take it apart and fix it manually?
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Is it related to the ROM? Or have you tried other Roms? I know that the latest Nightlies of CM7 have that issue, but the stable release of CM7 doesn't.

Jufjufjuf said:
Is it related to the ROM? Or have you tried other Roms? I know that the latest Nightlies of CM7 have that issue, but the stable release of CM7 doesn't.
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That really seems to depend on the phone, also. I've flashed every single nightly since the 40s, and when the 'microphone issue' started popping up I made it a point to test my mic volume to a minimum of 5 other phones every nightly....and it's never been a problem on my handset. Not once...
Not saying the problem doesn't exist, it just doesn't seem to be present on all devices..

I had the same prob on cm7 around nightly 174 or 175. Try pushing the latest stable release of cm7.. i bet it'll be all set.

JaiaV said:
That really seems to depend on the phone, also. I've flashed every single nightly since the 40s, and when the 'microphone issue' started popping up I made it a point to test my mic volume to a minimum of 5 other phones every nightly....and it's never been a problem on my handset. Not once...
Not saying the problem doesn't exist, it just doesn't seem to be present on all devices..
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I totally agree, my phone has it where as my parents' doesn't. Wonder what could be the issue.

It's a known issue on some MIUI builds, some have suggested replacing files (for example: http://forums.miuiandroid.com/showthread.php?10200-Low-mic-problem) or playing around with mute/unmute (for example: http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/forums/showthread.php/2352-Low-Microphone-Volume). I haven't experienced the problem myself on recent builds from Whitehawx.

Hellfire Phoenix V2.3 p999 [cm7.2 /super tweeked] - audio/music stops randomly...

Hi,
Firstly, want to thank the dev for this great rom. I recently switched back from ICS because I couldn't take the lag/wanted a fully functioning operating system.
The main problem I' having with this rom is that when I'm listening to music/audio files they'll stop for no apparent reason. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they're stopping when I go in and out of service. When I either unlock and press play or switch apps and press play they start again with not problems. I've found this to happen in multiple audio player (Poweramp and BeyondPod being the two main ones I use).
Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is incredibly frustrating.
Thanks very much for your hard work.
btw: the reason I didn't post this in the related dev forum is that I don't as yet have enough posts to do so...so no flaming please).

Nobody is gonna flame you for posting a question on the questions forum.. (unless you didn't search first)
I've had this happen to me as well with different ROM's. I don't believe its ROM specific. My problems were related to some of my notification settings. I also switched from the standard player to UberMusic. It's old but does the job well.

New2my8125 said:
Nobody is gonna flame you for posting a question on the questions forum.. (unless you didn't search first)
I've had this happen to me as well with different ROM's. I don't believe its ROM specific. My problems were related to some of my notification settings. I also switched from the standard player to UberMusic. It's old but does the job well.
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Can't be too careful when it comes to flames.
I thought it might be my notification settings but I've tried pretty much every permutation of those. Can't really bring myself to switch from PowerAmp (paid) and BeyondPod(free) is the best podcast player I've found to date...I might try reinstalling the rom, maybe I didn't wait long enough before using it?

sellless said:
Can't be too careful when it comes to flames.
I thought it might be my notification settings but I've tried pretty much every permutation of those. Can't really bring myself to switch from PowerAmp (paid) and BeyondPod(free) is the best podcast player I've found to date...I might try reinstalling the rom, maybe I didn't wait long enough before using it?
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Does the problem exist if you were to use Google Music? If it does, then it's most definitely a problem with the ROM. Try a re-install and if that doesn't clear it up, you might want try out a different ROM to see if it's the ROM or not.

New2my8125 said:
Does the problem exist if you were to use Google Music? If it does, then it's most definitely a problem with the ROM. Try a re-install and if that doesn't clear it up, you might want try out a different ROM to see if it's the ROM or not.
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Sadly, or happily as I love PowerAmp, it does occur with Google Music too. Never had this problem on eaglseblood gb (which I mainly used before trying a few ICS roms) but switched as their GB rom is no longer maintained. Will try re-flashing. Hopefully that helps.
Thanks for your suggestions.

sellless said:
Sadly, or happily as I love PowerAmp, it does occur with Google Music too. Never had this problem on eaglseblood gb (which I mainly used before trying a few ICS roms) but switched as their GB rom is no longer maintained. Will try re-flashing. Hopefully that helps.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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Yeah, i just recently discovered this issue too, and it kind of bugs me.

Still haven't found a way around this. Tried reflashing the rom which didn't help. Just tried flashing faux's 49b1 to see if that helps. The dalvik cache is being very slowly rebuilt. The newer kernel (the one included in hellfire 2.3) has a MUCH faster loading time (at least upon first load). Will post if this helps with the sound issue.

sellless said:
Still haven't found a way around this. Tried reflashing the rom which didn't help. Just tried flashing faux's 49b1 to see if that helps. The dalvik cache is being very slowly rebuilt. The newer kernel (the one included in hellfire 2.3) has a MUCH faster loading time (at least upon first load). Will post if this helps with the sound issue.
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Well. I'm still having this problem. I've tried multiple kernels, multiple roms and even completely formatted my phone (all partition including boot sector). No luck. Truly aggravating because aside from this issue, I love this rom. Very smooth/fast and stable. Not sure I can live with this audio problem though as it's incredibly frustrating.
If anyone else has encountered this problem and found a solution, please post. Thanks,

I just dl the old music player apk here see if it helps. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio.music
Also does it occur both when using headphones and not? I had issue with a set of headphones with a break in the wire, which would make the phone appear as though the headset was unplugged and plugged back in, which stopped playback constantly.
Let me know if this helps any.
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Thanks for replying.
I'd wondered if that might be the reason too. I know it gains with different headphones as I've tried four different pairs. I'll have you try it without any and see. I did try disabling the setting for stop playback upon removal of headphones with no success. I'll try without headphones in and see. I'll have to flash the Rom again as I've been trying a few others out.
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sellless said:
Thanks for replying.
I'd wondered if that might be the reason too. I know it gains with different headphones as I've tried four different pairs. I'll have you try it without any and see. I did try disabling the setting for stop playback upon removal of headphones with no success. I'll try without headphones in and see. I'll have to flash the Rom again as I've been trying a few others out.
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Did you get it figured out?

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Did you get it figured out?
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Sadly, no. I've tried playing music without headphones attached and the same problem occurs. Random stops. I go into whichever application (it happens in everyone single one I've tried) was playing an audio file and it starts up right where it left off when I press play.
It's worse now actually in that it occurs with whatever all roms. So now I'm left wondering if there's a micro fracture in the headphone sensor that only started acting up at the exact time I put Hellfire Phoenix 2.3 on my phone or if, somehow, it corrupted some base setting on the phone that even reformatting it can't get rid of.
Terribly aggravating. Debating taking it in for service but I need to find a Wind factory rom before I can do so. Think I saw one in the forums a few months ago. hopefully the link's still active.
Loathe/love technology.

justjackyl said:
Did you get it figured out?
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I've reinstalled my phone's stock rom (WIND Mobile).
This seems to have sorted out the issue. I'm going to try reinstalling Hellsfire Phoenix in a few hours if it doesn't happen again (I'm playing music nwo and will continue for a couple hours to make sure).
I'm now wondering if maybe this was some sort of error caused by downgrading from an ICS build (hadn't occured to me previously but that's when I started having this issue and it didn't matter which GB rom I tried after that)? Hopefully this will be the end of these problems and I can enjoy Hellsfire Phoenix as it was great aside from that issue.
I'll post in a couple days if all goes well....or if it doesn't.

sellless said:
I've reinstalled my phone's stock rom (WIND Mobile).
This seems to have sorted out the issue. I'm going to try reinstalling Hellsfire Phoenix in a few hours if it doesn't happen again (I'm playing music nwo and will continue for a couple hours to make sure).
I'm now wondering if maybe this was some sort of error caused by downgrading from an ICS build (hadn't occured to me previously but that's when I started having this issue and it didn't matter which GB rom I tried after that)? Hopefully this will be the end of these problems and I can enjoy Hellsfire Phoenix as it was great aside from that issue.
I'll post in a couple days if all goes well....or if it doesn't.
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That's so odd. I'm curious to see what happens if you go from stock to HFP v2.3.
Sent from G2x running BuROM v0.2 (root; mod stock 2.3.4) w/ faux's GB kernel 014b2-ext4.

justjackyl said:
That's so odd. I'm curious to see what happens if you go from stock to HFP v2.3.
Sent from G2x running BuROM v0.2 (root; mod stock 2.3.4) w/ faux's GB kernel 014b2-ext4.
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Well, sad to say that I still had that problem after trying HFP 2.3 again. So I went back to stock. This time it happened on stock too so I have to assume it's a hardware problem. I guess I just lucked out (well, poor luck in this case) that it went for four hours Friday without halting playback.
Better take it in for warranty service while it's still covered.
At least it seems unlikely that any rom/kernel combo was to blame now.