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I would love my task killer from my vibrant.
But since the g2x doesn't have a native tl, what is the best one?
The ones i use seem not to work. Even force killing apps doesn't work.
Anyone found one that keeps apps closed?
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No task killer.
I think I prefer one.
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Glad this topic was posted. So I called T-Mobile support yesterday about the battery issues and the first thing the guy asked me was if I was running a Task Killer - I was running Advanced Task Killer. BTW, he was zero help about the battery issue!
Today, I stopped into a TMo store to look for a case. The rep told me to uninstall the ATK that they did more harm than good. The rep today seemed to be more of a technical individual and understood much more than the phone rep from yesterday. The rep today told me I would have much better luck actually stopping the processes under Applications / Running Services.
So which is it?
Thanks in advance.
azsl1326 said:
Glad this topic was posted. So I called T-Mobile support yesterday about the battery issues and the first thing the guy asked me was if I was running a Task Killer - I was running Advanced Task Killer. BTW, he was zero help about the battery issue!
Today, I stopped into a TMo store to look for a case. The rep told me to uninstall the ATK that they did more harm than good. The rep today seemed to be more of a technical individual and understood much more than the phone rep from yesterday. The rep today told me I would have much better luck actually stopping the processes under Applications / Running Services.
So which is it?
Thanks in advance.
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Well we former vibrant owners have been told not use one since day one.
Then the vibrant got a native task killer. It was amazing.
The fact is those programs are taking up cache and I don't even use them.
Tmo apppack? Wtf. Telenav? Does anyone even use telenav?
Yes I know TK are suppose to be bad for android. But I think it clearly extends battery and speeds up my phone.
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azsl1326 said:
Glad this topic was posted. So I called T-Mobile support yesterday about the battery issues and the first thing the guy asked me was if I was running a Task Killer - I was running Advanced Task Killer. BTW, he was zero help about the battery issue!
Today, I stopped into a TMo store to look for a case. The rep told me to uninstall the ATK that they did more harm than good. The rep today seemed to be more of a technical individual and understood much more than the phone rep from yesterday. The rep today told me I would have much better luck actually stopping the processes under Applications / Running Services.
So which is it?
Thanks in advance.
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What I keep reading out there is that the task killers worked well for the early android phones. But the OS is much better nowadays and does a good job managing things for ya. I also read that even tho an app is started, it doesn't mean it is using up resources.. most are sitting there dormant. Thus, the processing power used to stop them (and then they are restarting) is using up more battery.
I've read this enough to make me question whether to uninstall ATK or not. I'm seriously considering it. I do have Titanium backup installed and I have used that to freeze appPack, car home, and 1-2 others . Now they never start. But, I'm wondering... is something else triggering those apps to start? If so and they cannot be started, is there a constant attempt to start them? ping ping ping....
schmit said:
What I keep reading out there is that the task killers worked well for the early android phones. But the OS is much better nowadays and does a good job managing things for ya. I also read that even tho an app is started, it doesn't mean it is using up resources.. most are sitting there dormant. Thus, the processing power used to stop them (and then they are restarting) is using up more battery.
I've read this enough to make me question whether to uninstall ATK or not. I'm seriously considering it. I do have Titanium backup installed and I have used that to freeze appPack, car home, and 1-2 others . Now they never start. But, I'm wondering... is something else triggering those apps to start? If so and they cannot be started, is there a constant attempt to start them? ping ping ping....
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Install a cache cleaner. It will show about 6mb going to those unused apps.
For a dormant app? Why?
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schmit said:
.....I've read this enough to make me question whether to uninstall ATK or not. I'm seriously considering it. I do have Titanium backup installed and I have used that to freeze appPack, car home, and 1-2 others . Now they never start. But, I'm wondering... is something else triggering those apps to start? If so and they cannot be started, is there a constant attempt to start them? ping ping ping....
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I took the store rep's advice and uninstalled it. I will see what happens. I haven't noticed a difference yet. I am also using Bloat Freezer to freeze the apps that TMobile felt that had to put on the phone that are more or less useless to me (and probably everyone else).
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Install a cache cleaner. It will show about 6mb going to those unused apps.
For a dormant app? Why?
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ya, that's what i'd like to know.. so really.. is it even worth freezing them out? What cache cleaner you using?
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ya, that's what i'd like to know.. so really.. is it even worth freezing them out? What cache cleaner you using?
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1tap
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Found the atk with the blue x will stop the cache use. The one with the red x would not.
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i'm going to try to do a test w/ similar usage.. Unfreeze everything in titanium and don't end any tasks vs freezing and ending tasks.. Try to see the diff. in battery usage. It's hard to get a true apples to apples comparison because usage differs.. but I'll give it a try..
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i'm going to try to do a test w/ similar usage.. Unfreeze everything in titanium and don't end any tasks vs freezing and ending tasks.. Try to see the diff. in battery usage. It's hard to get a true apples to apples comparison because usage differs.. but I'll give it a try..
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Thnx
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I've gone with and without on 5 different Android phones. I wouldn't go with out one.
While it is true that Froyo and Gingerbread SHOULDN'T need taskkillers, poor coding and memory leaks have proven otherwise for me.
To each their own.
Well in my opinion
I have had a G1 a N1 and now i have a G2x, and have tried a task killer with each phone, and personally i think it eats up more battery by making everything reset everytime it kills an app that automatically launches anyway(Widgets and Bloatware) so honestly if your having problems with background tasks root and freeze them.
I actually find that if you freeze what apps you don't want to randomly start for stupid reasons like when the wind blows, then freeze them. Then under ATK, I ignore processes that are vital and apps that I want to allow to notify me our run in the background, and the rest I just kill when I'm done with them, and it frees up assloads of memory.
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Here is a great article explaining why task killers are bad for android....
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I can't believe there are people out there who still believe in the task killer myth. 2009 called, they want their misconceptions back.
Freezing apps can be useful. Force killing them every 10 minutes is not.
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cyberchuck9000 said:
I can't believe there are people out there who still believe in the task killer myth. 2009 called, they want their misconceptions back.
Freezing apps can be useful. Force killing them every 10 minutes is not.
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Agree 100%
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cyberchuck9000 said:
I can't believe there are people out there who still believe in the task killer myth. 2009 called, they want their misconceptions back.
Freezing apps can be useful. Force killing them every 10 minutes is not.
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true story.
So until about a week ago I had jusy been using the infused rom, and my phone would be unplugged at 6am, and by 2pm still have about 97 percent battery life. I was using setcpu to underclock to 800mhz, and nothing more.
A few days agoil I tried installing go launcher and launcher pro to check em out, and battery life was absolute crap so I uninstalled them, however my battery life is still terrible. Now I have to charge it to 100% every 6 or so hours, even though I reverted back to infused. Can anyone tell me if theres an obvious solution, or help me out? Would a wipe work?
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Insideac said:
So until about a week ago I had jusy been using the infused rom, and my phone would be unplugged at 6am, and by 2pm still have about 97 percent battery life. I was using setcpu to underclock to 800mhz, and nothing more.
A few days agoil I tried installing go launcher and launcher pro to check em out, and battery life was absolute crap so I uninstalled them, however my battery life is still terrible. Now I have to charge it to 100% every 6 or so hours, even though I reverted back to infused. Can anyone tell me if theres an obvious solution, or help me out? Would a wipe work?
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A battery calibration helped me.
How do you do that?
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Insideac said:
How do you do that?
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Charge the phone to full (wait for it to say "full battery" in status bar)
Unplug the charger
Turn off the phone
plug the charger back in
wait until the battery icon says 100%
turn the phone back on
charge to full again (the notification will say battery full)
Reboot into clock work mod recovery
navigate to advanced -> wipe battery stats
reboot phone
Also, there's an app for it called battery calibrator I used and it seems good.
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there's also the possibility the DRM service for the media hub is bugging out (happened to mine earlier)
there was a thread about it a week days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161949
Note: Some people were reporting issues where getting rid of these services were causing problems with the stock music player and/or other things. read through the post.
I personally haven't had those issues after freezing those two apks with titanium backup (I'm on Infused 1.5.0 and the drm apks are in it for whatever reason)
hwaters said:
there's also the possibility the DRM service for the media hub is bugging out (happened to mine earlier)
there was a thread about it a week days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161949
Note: Some people were reporting issues where getting rid of these services were causing problems with the stock music player and/or other things. read through the post.
I personally haven't had those issues after freezing those two apks with titanium backup (I'm on Infused 1.5.0 and the drm apks are in it for whatever reason)
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Personally I didn't disable any of these DRM services. I disabled the media hub though cos I don't use it. I disabled the media scanner too, and replaced Gallery app with QuickPic app.
Dont get rid of the drm. I did and my notifications were not working until i reboot, but happens again after a while..set it back to how it was, and everything was fine
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just kill the drm service. settings > applications > running services. dont actually delete the apks. youll start having some things crash on you. hopefully its not something we need after gingerbread.
Try a different kernal ... recommend infusion 1.8 and then UnderVolt the Ghz
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So...i realize now I uninstalled the drm services, that must be why my clock and video player keep crashing and possibly affecting battery. I dont think I backed them up, does anyone know where I can find copies of the apks?
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Insideac said:
So...i realize now I uninstalled the drm services, that must be why my clock and video player keep crashing and possibly affecting battery. I dont think I backed them up, does anyone know where I can find copies of the apks?
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You should be able to get them from the 1.5.0 ROM zip under /system/apps.
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You should be able to get them from the 1.5.0 ROM zip under /system/apps.
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you can use any rom actually seeing as i doubt they modified it its called sisodrmprovider.apk
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Personally I didn't disable any of these DRM services. I disabled the media hub though cos I don't use it. I disabled the media scanner too, and replaced Gallery app with QuickPic app.
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what method did you use to disable media hub? Thanks
I use the widget to turn data off while not using phone to save battery but it never disables data when it says mobile data off. Anyone know how to because I want my battery life to last longer.
Thanks
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Search is your friend. As this is an APP, you might find info in the Apps thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183887
To save time, its a known issue after the update. Developer is working on a fix... but don't hold your breath.
But it was a QUESTION ****. Back off, people are getting ruder everyday in this forum.
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Every reset and some times when I kill tasks I loose all my program defaults. Trying to ignore then on list not enough it still happens. Its different programs each time. Launcher then my phone then contacts. Have redo the defaults. Any clue how make sure stops. Is because apps on as card?
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Stop killing tasks and learn how android works. Smh. How many threads are you going to open where you don't heed any advice?
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I have listened. I learned how to use my sd card. I fixed network issues. Also stream lined my apps. No double apps. I even managed more ram. I'm happy. I use a auto kill so doubt its doing it because I safe everything. My only issues now.
1. Google maps keeps deleting its self
2. My go locker changes
When this happens is at random. Doesn't seem be anything app doing it. I'm thinking its my Rom possibly. Bone. Skeeter
Doing my best bro. My phone is my only computer. Hard to read up as well as on a computer.
Thanks for the help.
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So odd I tried one app at a time. Might have start over with fresh rom. Its not bad problem just annoying. It deletes two random apps every restart. Thank god for titanium back up
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I have no idea what you are doing but I loose nothing over device resets. Period. Explain in detail exactly what you are doing, what ROM you are running, what launcher you are using and a list of 3rd party apps you are running.
xxsicknessxx said:
So odd I tried one app at a time. Might have start over with fresh rom. Its not bad problem just annoying. It deletes two random apps every restart. Thank god for titanium back up
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shansmi said:
I have no idea what you are doing but I loose nothing over device resets. Period. Explain in detail exactly what you are doing, what ROM you are running, what launcher you are using and a list of 3rd party apps you are running.
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sounds to me like hes running apps on sd which is unnecessary and causes more harm than good.
Really? Hmm I guess your right. I have I plenty of room. Thanks for info. I found the program responsible. Go locker. It used work but after last update it started messing up. Thanks for help I move apps back to phone
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Moving apps to phone helped allot thanks
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Hey guys. I know there are a lot of these threads going about but mine seems to be a different case altogether.
I've rooted my device, installed better battery stats and wakelock detector. Neither show any kind of battery drain. And I'm unable to upload and screen shots because xda app keeps force closing when I do so.
I've also followed the guide to disable Google play services. Nothing has changed. I've had this issue on both 33r and 25r.
I do love this phone but I can't believe I traded my fully working xperia z2 for a phone that doesn't work properly
Anyone else having this issue?
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Without any supportive data this thread is pretty pointless. Jump on a browser and post some screens.
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Will do when I get home!
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