I searched the forums a bit and did not find another thread pertaining to this, but I could be wrong. I am just wanting to hear comments about something I have been thinking about. The camera on our phone seems to be oddly placed. I always get a glimpse of my hand when I am taking video at least for a few seconds, and every now and then I will accidentally take a picture of my hand. So to those that have used the camera a bunch, what is your most comfortable/best way to hold the phone to operate the camera that unfortunately has no hardware camera button?
Index fingers up the top/bottom spines on the phone, thumb on the shutter.
Thumbs on the bottom, middle fingers on the top, index fingers free to update the screen
isnt there a mod,by which, you know....we can change the sleep button to take the picture or maybe one of the capcitive touch buttons.....????
I have the same problem. I guess just, "don't hold it that way."
In all seriousness, I just hold with my right and scoot my hand down the phone a little bit.
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well basically, the touch pro buttons are terrible. The ones at each corner are ok, but the left/right/up/down is terrible. I dont even bother using them, if i am playing some game or doing something full screen, i constantly hit the phone, or home buttons which minumize the program.
i was thinking... it may be possible to rather easily make some new face plate for the phone, maybe reuse teh central part which is the touch for the wheel.
but give it some actually normal buttons, i think touch pro has the worst buttons of any phone i have ever used.
does anyone have any pictures of what it looks like right under them?
Search for Touch Pro dismantling guide.
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
check it out, half way down the pictures of the buttons
being able to see the layout of how they are actually pressed has now helped me alot at being able to hit them accuratly.
it also seems that iwth just a small adjustment they could be made much better.
however it kinda sucks how you have to take the entire phone appart to get to them... :/
Sorta an odd question, but it hit me this morning while I was on my morning commute.
Which hand do you normally hold you phone in? I'm right handed, but my left is my phone hand. I'm sure this goes back to the PDA days when I held the PDA in my left and wrote or tapped with the stylus with my right hand. Even when I'm doing one handed operations like talking on the phone or reading a book, it's still almost always in my left.
I would guess that this is true for most people. Even in a finger friendly era I think most people would hold in left and touch with their right (dominate) hand.
Now, given this, doesn't it make more sense for slide out keyboards to slide out to the right? I may be biased as my first slide out was a XV6800 which did slide out from the right. But this just seemed natural. I'm holding my phone in my left, then I want to type. So I just rotate the top down to the right, into my hand, and flip up the screen.
I'm using a Touch Pro2 now, which has a left sliding keyboard. Now to when I want to type I have to rotate the bottom of the phone up out of my palm to grab it with my right and then flip up the screen.
To be sure, this is a very minor issue and not something I'm going to lose a lot of sleep over, but it just seems that a righty keyboard is a more fluid motion for people who hold their phones in their left hand. And I suspect that most of us are lefty-phone people. Just curious what the rest of y'all think.
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I´m left handed and hold my device with my right hand.
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I'm left handed and I hold my phone in my left hand. I do almost all my phone operation one-handed and if I need to do something that requires two-hand operation (typing in landscape for example) I hold my phone with both hands and use my thumbs. And I personally prefer phone keyboards to come out from the left.
Is this a typical issue? And if so... is it hardware or software?
Sadly, from what I have seen, it is a hardware issue. Hopefully you can swap yours.
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Thanks Fodoom, I took it up with my Best Buy, and needless to say I will be getting a new one. And if I have another bad one? They'll just keep giving them to me until it is fixed. (Hardware or Software wise)
Just to make sure you know you have to hold the on screen shutter button down for it to focus and then it takes the picture when you let go. I am switching from an iphone where you just tap the screen for focus so it took me a minute to figure out since there's no hardware camera button.
I hope you tried this before swapping it out, but I figured I'd ask just in case.
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Just to make sure you know you have to hold the on screen shutter button down for it to focus and then it takes the picture when you let go. I am switching from an iphone where you just tap the screen for focus so it took me a minute to figure out since there's no hardware camera button.
I hope you tried this before swapping it out, but I figured I'd ask just in case.
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That's odd, because I've been just tapping the shutter button all this time to take pictures with my Triumph and it's been working just fine; I can see the camera auto-focus and then snap the picture.
Just for grins, I tried it your way and held down the shutter button; it auto-focused and quietly beeped then, when I released the button, it took the picture. I'm betting this is a feature to enable the Triumph camera to mimick old time SLRs, where you focus for one particular distance and then take the picture with the subject at another distance to create some interesting out-of-focus effects.
At any rate, for the OP, I would definitely take your Triumph back for an exchange. Your camera should auto-focus whether on the camera app or a barcode reader app. If not, you have a legitimate issue.
All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.
Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.
I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+
Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.
I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere
Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.
Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?
im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird
galaxyYtester said:
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
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I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.
Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.
As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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So then the question becomes, "What percentage of people hold their phones mostly in their dominant hand?"
I don't but you do. The S8 has similar button layout to the iPhone - two on the left and one on the right. So I imagine that Apple and Samsung have drawn similar conclusions from studies that answer that question.
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As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
Being a left-handed, I used to hold my phone with my left hand (and navigate with the thumb). My main problem was the generalization of the flip covers (replacing the covers that opened downwards), and all the flip covers open to the left. So it was impossible to open the cover if holding the phone with the left hand. I had to learn how to hold my phone with my right hand, now it feels mostly natural and I'm navigating mostly with my right thumb.
I also bought the LED cover, which has separate "window" for the fingerprint scanner, so it's easy for me to find it. The only problem is when the cover is opened, I can't access the sensor, so I'm using iris unlock.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
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To summarize your first post.
You are a leftie that uses the phone in right hand. Therefore:
"this is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used."
End of summary.
Yes I simply responded to your initial post and this statement, among others.
So where does the left hand come into play. Lefties have learned to live in a world of right handed people. But to praise the regular scissors as leftie friendly, cause it frees my left hand to eat and jerk off, while I'm cutting something...
Your second post simply posits that samsung and apple cater to a majority. You make it seem as though they did some studies how many lefties hold their phones in right hand, and came to a conclusion.
They did not have to. Right handed people hold phone in dominant hand, and they are the majority of the population. End of story. Which makes this thread....
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If this is what you call a summary I’d hate to see your detailed explanations. This is the longest post in this thread. BTW, 100s of millions of people hold their phone in their non-dominant hand for various reasons. One being that people with smaller hands often type with their dominant hand and hold the phone with the other.
Fixed it for you. Peace.
Guilty though. Yes I tend to elaborate and make essays with my responses.
All the best.
Still definitely disagree that fingerprint location is left handed friendly.
It would have been too much to ask to have it below camera , centered as others. Now that would have been something useful. But no, therefore it stands unused on my phone.
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