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Battery drain, performance question

My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола

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Nikola P. said:
My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола
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uninstalla BatteryStatus...is a VERY good idea!
...XDA r2a is soooo fast without overclock
you'll see...your battery "come back" to life....
...another little idea:
before flash a wm6 rom, flash your mobile with an "original" one
ciao
tommy

TauRho said:
uninstalla BatteryStatus...is a VERY good idea!
...XDA r2a is soooo fast without overclock
you'll see...your battery "come back" to life....
...another little idea:
before flash a wm6 rom, flash your mobile with an "original" one
ciao
tommy
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i am so tired about all this stories...
I NEVER FLASHED BACK TO ANY CUSTOM ROM
I NEVER CHARGED MY WIZARD TO 100% BEFORE FLASHING
I NEVER REMOVED MY STORAGE CARD WHILE FLASHING
I NEVER SR IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASH
I NEVER HR IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASH
I NEVER USED CLEAR STORAGE AFTER FLASH
I NEVER REFLASHED IPL/SPL OR RADIO AFTER A ROM FLASH
ETC ETC ETC ....
AND I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS!!!
I think all of this are just stupid stories because someone did not understood what his real problem is...

Yes, overclock will drain the battery, try cpuscalar function in batterystatus ,It may help

Nikola P. said:
My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола
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Well, you really had a strong battery. My Wizzard only lasted for about a day and a half, when i was using wm5. But when i flashed to wm6. It seems to be longer than 2 days.
Of course, I am using it very frequently everyday

Battery life is horrible!

I'm currently running the XM6r3 ROM, and my battery life is less than half of what it was with WM5. Anyone else notice this? I'm thinking it might be related to the weather panel app.

First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...

I'm experiencing the same issues...with only 2 or 3 days of the iphone theme, with Slide2Unlock and WisBar, my battery barely makes it 18 hours.
I'm going to try the suggestion of flashing it back to original and them just the latest WM6 (screw the iphone stuff).

I do take into effect that I use it more than I did before. I did not have weather panel with wm5, and I also use battery status. I only recently started overclocking it. I also use direct push with our exchange server.
I flashed it with the T-Mobile rom before upgrading. The radio is 2.25.11.
I guess it just comes with the territory I'm going to have get in the habit of charging it more often, because I like it WAY more than WM5.

mfrazzz said:
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
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Very hypothetical and analytical description of the Battery consumption problem being faced,cudn't be explained more elaborately .
Stock wm5 Roms never had any such applications as new wm6 custom Roms offer.
secondly over clocking will definitely effect the battery power.

I noticed too. Probably the file connmrg.exe is taking all the CPU power, that's why the battery's life is so worse. Batterystatus gives a constantly 100% CPU usage display...

IF you see battery status showing 100% cpu usage you have some other issue. Mine is only at 100% when I start an app or doing heavy work on it. Otherwise it idles back under 195Mhz most of the time with CPUscalar for me. Also depends on what ROM you are running and what apps you have added.

No Problem with battery
I have been using this rom since it was released and have had no problems at all with the battery life.

Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM? My 8125 battery was fine on old wm6 ROM, but after I installed XM6r3 (and yes, I did install t-mobile os before to clean it), my battery level goes through the floor.
I managed to charge it to over 50% and installed stock cingular rom, and with no extra applications installed, just the virgin cingular software, BT/wifi not enabled, just gsm radio I still see a drop of few % a minute! So basically, my phone is effectively cannot be detached from charger or my battery will drain very fast and loose ability to start os and begin charging again in the phone.
I can see (using wizard service tool) some cingular customization stuff on the hidden extended rom, does this mean extended rom is not a cause of this? Should I use format ROM tool in WST? (sorry for probably stupid questions)
Is there any way to check that it is indeed the battery being shot and not some obscure software issue? I find it hard to believe that good battery can go bad exactly at the same time as OS upgrade, I am hoping I am missing some obvious software fix

I believe its something else because my girlfriend calls me every morning and I take it out of the charger. I talk to her for a couple minutes 5 minutes tops and I hang up I look at batterystatus and it says 79% left tops. This is OD crazy I don't know if its the rom or the battery. I don't feel like paying 40 bux for a battery and same thing happens. I am currently installing a new rom I am gonna try this for acouple days and see what happens. I only noticed it for one rom but that rom I used for two to three weeks straight I didn't notice with the other roms because I never kept them for more then a day.

Strange enough (Battery life)
Strange enough before reading this post I thought that my phone's battery is dying. But know I can say that its definitely this XM6r3 ROM has some problem. To be precise there is definitely some application that eats the battery. As sometime my battery works fine and other time it just drain. If anyone can work on what application is eating the battery would be appreciated.
Rest the ROM is great.
Harwant

Battery Life Diminishes with Cooked ROMs

Hello all,
I was wondering if there are any other S710 users who have been experiencing battery issues with the HTC Vox.
For a while I was running Dr. Gonzo's Guava Rom and everything was great with it all except for the battery life. I didn't pay much attention to it, but it finally got on my nerves. It came to the point where I could only use the phone for around 14-16 hours under moderate use and wifi+bt OFF after a full charge.
Today, I flashed the VOX with fireburned CLEAN v1.2. and it seems to be the same. I don't recall having this issue with the Official ROM.
Battery issue? any ideas? I dont want to spend money on an extended battery if it is a software issue.
Much appreciated!

It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
Opinion of other users invited.

Did not notice anything as such. My Vox is nearly 1 Year 4 months old. So I am not expecting much from it.
Because during my initial flashing, I never had any noticeable battery performance issues. I have flashed almost all ROMs of Dr. G's, a couple of fh's and 3 of fireburned's ROM, about to flash with the 4th

I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.

gwmnx said:
I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
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I think you may have a hardware issue (not sure though). When I am not travelling, my phones battery at the end of the day shows more or less 60% charge left. I use flexmail to check my mails every hour. If there is any mail worth reading, then I use i.e. to check mails. So I think you can consider it moderate GPRS usage, plus there are of course voice calls . Though I do not use wifi or BT.
If you plan to buy a new battery though, I think it will be better if you go for an extended battery.

I read in another topic that it's somehow related to the Radio version.

parthabhatta said:
It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
Opinion of other users invited.
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Parthabhatta, what were shipping charges to india? how much is the total cost? How much time does it take in delivery?
i am looking to buy a new one same 1100mAh.

Because im new with Vox in generally can someone tell me what should be aproximated battery life with vox? (NO wifi, NO bt, 1-2h/day using normal phone calling)
What could be normal battery life with TCPMP and movie divx 320x240 256kbit ?

Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.

gwmnx said:
Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
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Hi gwmnx!
The same problem i have to, my battery life is very poor , maxim 10- 12 hours(no wifi/no bt), without browsing internet or other else and battery dies.
I buy a new battery, and exact same problem with it, in maximum 14 hours is finished
I was in a service , and they verify my batterys, and they told me the batterys is very good both.
And probably the phone have a hardware issue , but they don't know to repare it because they don't have a electronic schematic of my phone
I tested 3 ROM's by now, but nothing is change, with every ROM, same problem.
I don't know what to do and what to say, i'm very disappointed
Excuse me for bad English , i don't speak very well!

Same issue i am facing here. My phone battery dies in 10-12 hours. Don't know if it happens due to lot of ROM upgrades everyday or using overclocking...
I am going to purchase a new battery soon. If that also works same, i will revert to original VOX 6.0 ROM. No overlcoking, no R&D, no research no development further because you need to compromise with hardware malfuntioning, damages etc against this kind of R&D.

Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.

For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks

ragsAnurag said:
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks
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How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.

there are some roms that kills the battery life to around half or more. like gonzo's latest rose rom.

parthabhatta said:
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?

skchattha said:
Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
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Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.

parthabhatta said:
Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
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Great man! Rs.948 is still cheaper, HTC service centre rates are Rs1390.
What do you mean by Extended battery? Any difference from normal battery?
And what about 2250mAh battery, does it fit fine or looks odd?

2250 mAh is the extended battery. I didnot buy although it was comparatively cheaper because to me it will not only look odd but make the phone bulky and heavier too. But now i feel that 2250 would have been a better choice as i am an avid gprs user. Now think and buy- difference of only 2.5/3 USD.

gwmnx said:
How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
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Well, being in browser doesn't mean your homescreen is off. Sliding panel itself consumes lots of battery. Just change your homescreen from settings to something else not related to sliding panel or Rose Homescreen. For a change just change it back to windows default. let it be changed for a day (You won't loose anything). I strongly believe there would be some difference in battery consumption and consumption will be lesser.
Thanks
Extended Battery really looks too odd. it looks like you've added another battery

how long does your battery last

first thread.
im using energy rom, the battery dies in a day.
anything i can do to make it last longer?
thanks in advance.

dim your brightness

there are lots of things you can do, dim the brightness is one (turn off automatic adjustment of the brightness too, so it stays dim)
make sure any pop3 email isnt checking too often
turn off push mail
there are some hardware disable cabs i used on mine, i dont remember the link but they are from ninjaduck on ppcgeeks
use NRG's service disable cabs to turn off background services you dont need
although even after all this mine still only lasts about a day, but its ok for me since it docks on a charger every night
one more thing to keep in mind, CDMA phones will always have shorter battery life than their GSM counterparts, since CDMA phones have to keep in constant contact with the tower (so the radio is always in use)

I've used to rum sprint stock rom and my battery lasted me only a day if even that. But now, I'm running my own clean and simple 6.5 no manilla rom and my battery last last like 3 days.

Definitly backlight adjustments will help. Also there is a setting under the WIFI, for Performance which made some diference on mine. The big thing is to make sure: Bluetooth is off when not in use, because it'll search non stop, same thing with WIFI, keep it off, when not in use. And the big thing I did, I switched my email, to check every 2hrs, rather than on demand. I went from 4-6hrs to an easy 10hrs. Hope something helps!
Also, when I'm using apps like Trapster, or a radio streamer, you obviosly need to keep the "system" on, which includes your screen, And when I started using a Screen Off App, I noticed a pretty big diference.

what is simple 6.5
delfin12 said:
I've used to rum sprint stock rom and my battery lasted me only a day if even that. But now, I'm running my own clean and simple 6.5 no manilla rom and my battery last last like 3 days.
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I got this phone from someone, and it has manilla of some sort, what kind of rom do you have? where did you get it from?
Thanks

I built it myself using Calkulins kitchen. Is your TP2 HSPL unlocked? If so, I may be able to upload it for you so you can download it, PM me

Since OC'ing my device, I have been getting 2-3 days per charge using the stock Verizon MR2 release. Others who have OC'd have noticed the same thing. Check the OC threads both here (where it all starts) and on PPCGeeks (where we talk about what we find on XDA).

Stock Sprint ROM. Seidio 3500MAH Battery. 3G always on. Surf over 3 hours a day, make quite a few calls, signal in both my work location and home are not that great, so phone looks for a signal a lot, and Stream video from time to time. Doing this, the battery still lasts about 8 to 10 hours. My wifes phone has a stock battery and lasts about 9 hours without doing all of what I do on mine. Her battery sometimes is down to 10% or less. Mine never gets under 25%. If I am streaming from my SlingBox, I can get about 3.75Hours out of my battery.

Improved Battery Life!
Tybalt39 said:
Since OC'ing my device, I have been getting 2-3 days per charge using the stock Verizon MR2 release. Others who have OC'd have noticed the same thing. Check the OC threads both here (where it all starts) and on PPCGeeks (where we talk about what we find on XDA).
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Similar experience for me. After OC'ing my stock 6.5 MR2 VzW TP2 with OCT v1.5, turning off push email and push internet, etc., I can get 2 days most of the time.

Bully Dawg said:
Similar experience for me. After OC'ing my stock 6.5 MR2 VzW TP2 with OCT v1.5, turning off push email and push internet, etc., I can get 2 days most of the time.
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I'm new to all this. What's OC'ing stand for?

overclocking

Cusrom ROM's + Dailer Bug?

Hi all, just got my 11yr old son a ChaCha. He wanted a Blackberry for the keyboard, but managed to persuade him to have the ChaCha. Anyway, it seems to have this infamous dialer bug.From reading throu the forums, am I right in thinking that if I put a custom rom on, it will get rid of the dialer bug? He curently takes it to school, at 100% power, and generally comes home with the phone on around 10-20% power!! He is only allowed to use it at break and lunchtime!! Also, as it's for my kid, I would like it to be as close to stock as possible. Any recommendations? As I already own a customised Desire, I am happy to 'play about'. I have already unlocked the bootloader, and rooted, so that I can use link2sd. Without that he could only install 3 apps on it before it got the low disk space warning!! And as he's only 11, he likes to put a lot of junk on his phone!! Any help would be most appreacited. Thanks.

Like I mentioned here, I don't think that the dialer bug really exists. It's just the battery statistics that are not very clear.
The overall battery performance of the Chacha is very bad, so if you play some games they could drown the battery within an hour. There only thing you could do is rooting the phone and using another ROM. You can win a little with this, but for playing games, Chacha has a very bad battery performance.
Best performance was with CM7 - there my battery live was 1 1/2 days (without playing games), with CM9 now it's less then a day again.
So for better battery performance and keyboard I guess the Motorola Pro is the only phone, or non-Android phones.

I agree. There is no dialer bug. Those are many processes that show as Dialer. I don't mean to offend you, but have you considered that your son is using the phone not just at break and lunchtime? It is hard to resist, especially when it comes to new things. You should test it yourself and see if battery drains that much in that specific time frame.
Regards

Custom ROM would be a good option, but as he's 11, he's probably not old enough to appreciate the faster speed of CM7 or CM9, over his front camera. I'm guessing he'd want his front camera to keep on working lol
But when I was using the stock rom, I just turned my 3G data off whenever I was not using it, and that makes the battery last miles longer
For easyness (lazyness). Create a widget on the homescreen, under Settings and Mobile Internet. And then you'll have a widget you can just tap to turn on and off the mobile data as long as your son can get the hang off turning it off when he's not using it, then that should work a treat

go for CM Roms
IMHO I do believe that there's a dialer bug in stock Chacha, I think it is caused by the dialer's continuous polling of the proximity sensor (this bug has been reported in a lot of htc stock gingerbread phones, the app dx battery helped me confirm this.) Custom ROMs helped me solved this bug but only those that are CM-based (stock-based roms still has the dialer bug). CM7 is very stable and has the best battery life for any Chacha ROM but CM9 just looks so damn good and the battery life is still way better than stock (in stock, I get battery drains even if my phone is just idle, wifi off)

Thanks for the advice guys. I think we will leave it a couple of weeks and see how it goes. May end up putting CM7 on it at some stage, as I have a CM7 based ROM on my desire. He is only allowed to use it between lessons, otherwise it's detention!! He also uses it to listen to music to and from school. And yes, I have notice that the battery goes down rather quickly, when I was setting it up for him.

Well, there sure is a bug in the stock rom that drains it within hours. IMO it's coming from the 3G connection... Sometimes, when my coworkers drive me crazy, I turn off the 3G... I live in a neighbourhood with a bad network connection, this means that it is reconnecting all the time. My battery normally went for about 15 hours, with 3G off it works for over 20 hours. But since I've installed CM9 it stays alive for over 40 hours...

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