Took a look at my battery just now and I'm at 70% and the phone has been unplugged for 15+ hrs (I'll include a screenshot). Because of this, I thought I'd share my setup just incase it could benefit someone. This isn't a fluke, I've been experiencing this with the rom/kernel/modem combination for over a week now and I'm hesitant to change roms .
I will say there is nothing different about my battery life while using the phone heavily and that's to be expected. Like yesterday I was on my phone ALL day and the battery lasted about 10hrs (few phone calls, gmail push, HEAVY data use, low reception area for a while, GPS Navigation multiple times). The biggest gain comes from idle time. I use my phone pretty much like everyone else, may take a few calls, normal gmail push, data for streaming vids, twitter, fb... things of that nature. With other roms I've had up to 40% of my battery drain overnight while doing nothing! But with my current setup, I've gone about 36hrs (once again with normal to light use) without plugging the phone up. My setup is as follows:
AT&T Samsung Captivate
ROM: Phoenix 1.0
Kernel: Supercurio's stock + voodoo captivate kernel (Voodoo disabled)
Modem: I897UCJJ4
Theme: Custom concoction put together by me
Now I say I'm hesitant to switch roms, but to tell you the truth I really have no choice lol. I have a release date model Captivate and any non Captivate modems cause me to loose signal randomly therefore I must stick with Captivate roms. As sucky as that may be, I must say I'm not disappointed in this roms performance.
O, one other big thing I've found is that your launcher plays a CRUCIAL role in battery consumption. I've gotten the best life using Zune Home. The dev of that has two programs, Zune Home and Faded home. Zune Home is the one I used. It's very basic and some may not like it. I currently am using Open Home as my launcher and the battery life with it is great as well.
Well I thought I'd share this info just incase it could benefit someone out there. If this is the wrong section please don't hesitate to move it.
That's a beautiful thing. I'm sure lots of people are jealous! Luckily, I haven't had to much of a battery issue. I'm on Serendipity 2.0 and with heavy usage I last HOURS.
Not a big fan of either launcher and that does play a huge role. My launcher usually usually runs about 23-28MBs in the task along with Widget Locker which is about 5-9MBs.
after i hard bricked my captivate im looking for new phone.
the main things i looking for is
-largest battery life
-3.5" screen
- working gps
im not playing games , i mostly using internet and listen to music on youtube.
any one can recommend me somthing ? O=
Root?
Are you willing to root the device? Many custom ROMS and kernels offer incredibly extended battery life. The processes are quite simple and laid out by developers in a step-by-step method for you.
Current I have a Samsung Vibrant 4g and am running a custom rom and kernel.
I can listen to Pandora from 8am to 12pm, texting and dicking around on the internet the whole time and am left with 50-60% battery life by 5pm.
If I don't use the phone at all it will last for about 2-3 days uncharged.
For tips all phone
Use Power control to close many thing ( wifi bluetooth GPS Sync )
and always kill all program.
fongwe said:
For tips all phone
Use Power control to close many thing ( wifi bluetooth GPS Sync )
and always kill all program.
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Fongwe is correct.
Doesn't matter which phone you will use, you will always have complaints about the battery life, whether be it an Android Device or an i Device or a WP Device.
Since we are talking about a phone in Android section, I will say that so far out of all those Android phones I have tried/used, Incredible S has got the best battery life(This is strictly my personal opinion, I am saying everything based on my personal experience only.).
Next after Incredible S for me has been Atrix 4G.
After that I can say may be you will get decent battery life out of a Nexus S.
Don't get me wrong about Nexus S as a third place, it has got a decent battery life, the only problem is the 3G connection kills the power.
If you have background sync, bluetooth, 3G radio, wireless and too many applications running in the background all together, doesn't matter which phone you use, it will not give you a great battery experience regardless.
This is my typical usage from those recent phones. With about 2 hours phone call, few minutes of surfing, sync on constantly with 3G connection, play casual games for a few minutes and watch youtube for about 15 mins.
Incredible S - About 10 hours - Stock ROM
Atrix 4G - About 8-9 hours - Aura
Nexus S - About 6.5 hours - CM7 (May be my phone's battery is indeed defective)
If you are at work/home/on way, consider switching off your 3G radio and you will save up a lot of battery. Also, if you get a single core processor, it uses up less battery than a dual core phone.
Good luck.
Cheers!!!
Thanks for the information guys! will try these asap
Atrix has pretty good battery life. Atrix 2 should too.
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Thanks for the information guys! will try these asap
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iPhone or wait for Nokia Wp.
You will always get the occasional answer on saving battery life and I think that constitutes for a big part of how you could really get a device that would last long.
I think that you should be efficient in switching applications, service and the phone itself off, if you want to have it last longer through the day.
Also, rooting it would be another good option but those who want to keep it as is, this would be no option.
New ROMs help
I have a Vibrant that I used about a year. I went through a lot of different ROMs/Kernels during that time. Battery life varied wildly based on overclocking, undervolting, open apps and apps used. Also, just like mentioned above, if you drive through areas where the phone is always searching for new connections it can have an effect on battery life as well. Pick a phone with good ratings that you like and keep the background apps to a minimum. Figure you will be charging every 1-2 days, 3 at the most.
Galaxy S II. Dualcore, used properly, saves battery.
I turned off GPS and Bluetooth on my Galaxy Captivate and the battery last 2 or 3 times longer. Turn off Wi-fi too, if you can live without it.
Barry Fruitman
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get a S2, root it and use and DEV's rom to your liking and flash a good kernel like speedmod or siyah
Hello,
I can't post in the BlindIce topic so I hope it's fine here.
I've seen only good reviews about the battery, that's the main reason I installed this ROM, but I seem to have a problem, my battery drops like crazy. In ~2h it already went down to 86%, and all I did was send 2 SMS. On Endymion I didn't have this problem.
And I also have a problem with the stock browser, it's moving like a snail, but the main problem is the battery, firefox/chromw is working fine so I can live with that.
I'll upload the battery log after I get home, if needed.
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i was also very happy with it despite minor bugs but eventually many things sent me back to endymion i can guarantee pretty soon you'll be back on endy, ics roms are nice but until the kernel comes out there isnt really one that can rival endy
anyway back on topic, check things like widgets? especially things like youtube widget i just took mine off, having it there means its connected to the net cycling through the subscriptions constantly, thats an example most widgets add to drain quite well, check your syncs, which app syncing for how long, can you do it manually etc, weather apps are they syncing to frequently, which apps are using location? using better battery stats i found google locations is used in many things without me even knowing, all of these things should be checked and configured on any rom, there is nothing really specific, maybe your 3g is using up the battery? try switching to gsm only.. finally have you calibrated the battery or more specifically the phone; so it reads the battery accurately.. thats all the things i can think of off head to help
Thanks for your reply.
Anyway, all the config was done and there was no widget running so I guess it was something with the kernel/ROM that my phone didn't like, considering that I'm probably among the few or the only one which had such an issue.
And like 3h ago the battery was hot as hell for no reason, only Y!M was running, it literally burned my hand, there's still a little red spot, so idk what was the reason or what happend but I went back to endy, after the 3.0 kernel will be out, I'll try again, until then thanks and keep up the good work @devs.
The topic can be closed.
Same problem with that rom
After 15 minutes of listening to music battery drains from 100% to 75%
Widgets
pR13S7 said:
Same problem with that rom
After 15 minutes of listening to music battery drains from 100% to 75%
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Any widgets (or sync's) running on your phone?
If so - how many and what kind?
The battery isn't that bad for me but on all of the ICS ROM's that I've used the battery drain issue is quite bad. Then again, I was using Virtuous Affinity for a while and the battery wasn't brilliant on that either so I've come to the conclusion that I will probably require a new battery soon.
But still, the battery on my phone on BlindICE has been better than on yours but I'm reluctant to switching from it now
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
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Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
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Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.
Does anyone have any of the AOSP roms that run well on their phone.
As far as wakelocks and getting the phone to properly sleep. I know some people have suggested to get this experience, you have to change settings and not use certain apps, etc...
Is there a rom out there thats not sense that will allow the phone to sleep to get good battery life, etc??
I love pure android and I love this phone, but I have tried and tried and I cant find a rom / kernel combo that meets this need.
If you have success with this phone and an aosp rom, please share so I can try it out...I really want to get away from sense.
What keeps me on sense is the ability to very easily make it though a day on a charge and the camera. The new 4.2 camera is a huge upgrade that "almost" nullifies that area, but the phone constantly waking up and battery life draining 10-14% overnight while the screen is off kills me.
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Does anyone have any of the AOSP roms that run well on their phone.
As far as wakelocks and getting the phone to properly sleep. I know some people have suggested to get this experience, you have to change settings and not use certain apps, etc...
Is there a rom out there thats not sense that will allow the phone to sleep to get good battery life, etc??
I love pure android and I love this phone, but I have tried and tried and I cant find a rom / kernel combo that meets this need.
If you have success with this phone and an aosp rom, please share so I can try it out...I really want to get away from sense.
What keeps me on sense is the ability to very easily make it though a day on a charge and the camera. The new 4.2 camera is a huge upgrade that "almost" nullifies that area, but the phone constantly waking up and battery life draining 10-14% overnight while the screen is off kills me.
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Download the Better Battery Stats, I'll know more info from that and will be able to help you.
Yeah i agree. Its a great app. For me this is what helped:
Disabling notifications and auto refresh on Facebook. Disabling location reporting etc in Google maps.
Battery drain is still worse than on Sense but wakelocks have been seriously minimised.
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