I'm a vibrant owner with a simple question: How noticeable is the speed increase from the leaked froyo build over 2.1?
I'm finding day to day tasks to be slower... JI6 isn't a final build.
That may be because I'm so used to Voodoo on the 2.1 builds, though.
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To answer your question directly, it'll be slow (if you'll be using the leaked Froyo). However, the Cognition v2.2 beta 6 (a well-cooked ROM on Froyo) is faster than the leaked Froyo. It's just done right.
Can't find it now, but pocket now did a video with a bench of stock 2.1, leaked 2.2, cog 2.2, lag fix, and g2 on stock 2.2. Said leaked and cog got bout the same, 900. Lagfix doubled it to 1800.
Normally not a fan of pn's android vids, but this one was done by the guy who knows what he's talking about. I know not to use quadrant as a standard on our phones, and so does he. He just does em cause everybody wants to see it.
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Gotta agree! It seems real stable and very fast.
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I'm running cognition 2.2 beta 7 and it is much smoother than the stock 2.1 but I never used the lagfix.
same here....its much better,faster and snappier!!
I was running stock 2.1 and recently updated to Cog 2.2B7 and WOW! What an amazing difference. It's so fast and smooth...I haven't found anything on it yet that would cause me to go back to 2.1.
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When I first got my Captivate, I was excited by all that Froyo would bring. But now I've got my Captivate running JH7 with SRE (and shortly with VooDoo), and loaded with all the apps I like.
When Froyo comes out, some of my apps won't work until there are new releases, and some of the tweaks I'm getting (SRE and VooDoo etc.) will be gone, at least initially. Plus, AT&T's control I'm sure will be tighter as they removed stuff they initially forgot (like how tethered 'disappeared' from JF6 to JH3+).
So, I'm debating if I should still be excited by Froyo. I'm sure I'll back up my current 'happy place' config/ROM and give Froyo a shot, and maybe I'll keep it. Maybe not.
Just wondering if anyone else is likewise cooling on Froyo now that we have so many DEV patches/ROMs/enhancements.
New technology is always gonna come with some growing pains
Remember we'll be able to use our full ram, try out flash with jit compiler, and then the mass developing of custom roms with take hold.
And omg app2sd comes with froyo. I had my htc aria running with froyo and it is the only thing I miss.
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SRE v.2B6 w/Voodoo LagFix - JH7
the question is WHEEENNNNNN!!!!
September 23rd
Is Froyo worth getting excited about still? Umm... YES! Seriously, I've used it extensivly at work on a Nexus One and Evo. The browser just screams! There are times when I forget its a mobile browser - its that fast.
Do you think the Cappy is fast now? Just wait. Menu animations, transitions, general UI snappy-ness is much improved. Plus, native apps2sd and other little enhancements are great.
My favorite feature is "Chrome to Phone" support. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oadboiipflhobonjjffjbfekfjcgkhco
Its so cool! So, yeah, I'm still excited at least.
do you think a new os is gonna stop designgears from releasing a new sre? jh7 is good but if its an indication of what's to come in froyo then I'm excited. I doubt we will see the level of improvement that snapdragon phones see but a few features will be worth the update.
I personally will wait for the voodoo lagfix to have an overclock froyo kernel to upgrade. and I'm sure that won't take long, I mean how different can froyo be? I'm sure many system files are in the same location and function the same way.
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Which lagfix do you think would make my phone more stable and less laggy, the SRE lagfix combo for JH6, the SRE lagfix combo for JH7 or the z4mod for froyo? Thanks.
Check out the video showing the lag my phone has. I have the leaked Froyo build on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA904wzbCdY
Cognition ftw
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I would suggest Cognation as well for 2.2 or any of the roms posted as I have tried a few and they all have been faster then the stock. I also noticed from your video that you have alot on your pages, i noticed that the more i have on the screen the slower LP takes to load. might try slimming down and see if that speeds it up.
I'm using RyanZA's one click from the market. It works well and I haven't had any problems with it. Froyo, on the other hand..
Edit: Actually, after watching your video, that lag is abnormal even for the non-lagfixed captivate. Mine had nowhere near that level of lag. Try downloading a program called Watchtower and seeing if any single program is bogging down your cpu? You can also try advanced task killer and kill all the apps - if your phone speeds up, it's probably some background process eating up your processing resources.
It is laggy, however in my opinion there seems to be an awful lot going on on that phone. Seems packed with widgets. Regardless, it shouldn't move like it does. I would jump to Cognition.
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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It does fly and with the new vodoo lag fix built in I am sure it will be just as fast (still on an i9000 Rom myself till tonight lol)
I do agree that there was alot going your screen, load that much on to any launcher and it will lag.
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crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.
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IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.
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I want Froyo on my phone like I had it but it was really laggy and had less RAM available than Eclair. A video would be awesome, hopefully you can get one on here. Thanks.
Hey everyone,
I just received my Samsung Captivate today and i'm very excited.
I've been reading and i'm still on the fence on if i should install Eclair 2.1 or Froyo 2.2
I'm looking at the Cognition app to start off with.
Any opinions would be great
Thanks
Gingerbread :-D
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Eclair is the stock app, and is already installed on Captivate. Since you bought you phone today, it should be already updated to the latest 2.1 JF7 update.
I'd recommend to install Froyo. There are some good upgrades in that, esp w.r.t to the gmail app and the shortcuts available in the notifications bar. Also, I could notice my phone faster on Froyo.
Your best bet is any of the FroYo i9000 ROMs.
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I went with the Cognition ROM 2.2 Froyo.
I will do some reading on those 9000 and once i get enough info i'll jump ship if needed
i think everyone would agree 2.2 over 2.1
2.2 anyday...
cog 2.3b4....awesome! ! !
savva said:
I went with the Cognition ROM 2.2 Froyo.
I will do some reading on those 9000 and once i get enough info i'll jump ship if needed
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Good idea. i9000's have a few bugs
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What is the difference between the TB Gingerbread leak and CM7? It is my understanding that the Gingerbread leak is Sense while CM7 is AOSP. Are there any other differences? For those who have flashed both which do you prefer?
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It is my understanding that the Gingerbread leak is Sense while CM7 is AOSP. Are there any other differences?
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Forgive my sounding ass-holish, but that's about as different as it gets.
I'm personally a Sense man, as I love HTC's integration, but CM has it's place as well. I flashed the leak, and other than awful battery life, I'm loving it.
It should be stated though, awful it relative. I flashed BAMF 10 minutes after leaving the store, so I have no idea if it's better or worse than stock.
You seem to imply you bought the phone with gingerbread. That cannot be true.
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Of course I have to differ with the other guy.
Technichally they are now both the "same" as both run android 2.3.4. The difference is CM7 is stock android while sense gingerbread is what HTC thinks android should look and feel. So try both and stick with what you like.
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While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
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While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
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+1 - Going to totally agree here. At least until BAMF comes out with a build off of GB, then I will make the switch. I have messed with both and I don't like to make sacrifices (camera, data in some cases, etc) so I am sticking with the current Froyo roms.
since i can't post in the dev forum yet, will the GB radios brick CM7?
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since i can't post in the dev forum yet, will the GB radios brick CM7?
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No but you will also have no data.
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No but you will also have no data.
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gotcha. hard to keep track of the pace of those threads. i'm sure it was mentioned. so flash rom, and then load froyo radios?
Sense and CM7 are worlds apart... the only common denominator is the base version of Android... thankfully.
Wanted sense 3.0 but 2.1 is doing just fine. And battery life for me on the leak isn't that bad either. And I've tried all roms, kernel combos there is
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back to froyo for me
turbosrrgood said:
While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
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I agree with you regarding the GINGER-leak and CM7 based on 2.3.4. My testing yesterday (of gingerjane 1.2) reveled beside the obvious camera bug much slower LTE speeds (like at least 5x slower). Both of those are serious enough to make me go back to Froyo until bugs are worked out. And I am sure there are other bugs. The TB is my primary phone and I need a fully working one.
Anyone has noticed much slower LTE speeds with 2.3.4, perhaps due to the new radios? The speed was below 2 mbps download, when I get 12-22 mbps at home with the last OTA radios and froyo.
Hey guys, just an inquiry..
Going back through the rom list for the Samsung Captivate, I'm finding more and more that the roms I used back in the day "Cognition, Perception, Darky's, Doc's Rom" etc were all... of a better quality than those that are produced now. (Nearly two years later).
I find most of what's done now a cut-and-paste, or a bunch of random sh!t thrown together with a pretty bow, until two days later you've got framework fc's out the ying-yang.
I'm running Miui Scotland's rom right now.. but I really want to go back to Froyo. For a few reasons... too many to mention.
My question is, does anyone have the latest version of the Perception rom, and a link to it? Or any of the other oldies but goodies?
Only old rom I can find is SensatioN by Icezar... that's it.
Thanks for anyone who can help
Thanks,
Arisenhavok91 said:
Hey guys, just an inquiry..
Going back through the rom list for the Samsung Captivate, I'm finding more and more that the roms I used back in the day "Cognition, Perception, Darky's, Doc's Rom" etc were all... of a better quality than those that are produced now. (Nearly two years later).
I find most of what's done now a cut-and-paste, or a bunch of random sh!t thrown together with a pretty bow, until two days later you've got framework fc's out the ying-yang.
I'm running Miui Scotland's rom right now.. but I really want to go back to Froyo. For a few reasons... too many to mention.
My question is, does anyone have the latest version of the Perception rom, and a link to it? Or any of the other oldies but goodies?
Only old rom I can find is SensatioN by Icezar... that's it.
Thanks for anyone who can help
Thanks,
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You can also get Phoenix, There is a link at the last page or 2 of the thread. If it's dead let me know I have a copy
I'm going to reflash Serenity 6.3 for lack of a better option.
There's a link on the last page of the thread; if that fails, I have a copy as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330137
I'm still running Serendipity 6.4 (Froyo). On any of the GB roms i tried the NHL GameCenter app would have choppy video but with Froyo its always smooth. With the JL2 modem set to 850mhz only i get between 4.5 - 6.0 down and 1 up
I had a spare Captivate that I would try different roms on but my son is using it on Straight Talk.
I miss running Serendipity. Ran it from version 1 to 7. MikeyMike01 should get back into development and compile an ICS ROM.
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FireFly
Here is one of the best ones as far as I am concerned
FireFly 3.0.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jwlvkq19xn296qy/FireFly_3-0-1.zip
joey_xda said:
I'm still running Serendipity 6.4 (Froyo). On any of the GB roms i tried the NHL GameCenter app would have choppy video but with Froyo its always smooth. With the JL2 modem set to 850mhz only i get between 4.5 - 6.0 down and 1 up
I had a spare Captivate that I would try different roms on but my son is using it on Straight Talk.
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Serendipity gets my recommendation, too. Here is a link to the site with downloads: ---
Hmm, I'm too new of a poster to provide links. If you Google for "serendipityrom" and "weebly" it should be your first link.
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Here is one of the best ones as far as I am concerned
FireFly 3.0.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jwlvkq19xn296qy/FireFly_3-0-1.zip
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+10 hands down best froyo rom.
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froyo is out of date
Even Samsung replaced Froyo with GB! You should listen to your manufacturer!
But in all seriousness - you should check stock GB.
bravomail said:
Even Samsung replaced Froyo with GB! You should listen to your manufacturer!
But in all seriousness - you should check stock GB.
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The only reasons i stayed with froyo was the video in the NHL gamecenter app would be choppy with a GB rom (tried many) but smooth with froyo. Also the data speed was alot faster than GB.
Pinnacle of GB ROM IMO.
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I miss running Serendipity. Ran it from version 1 to 7. MikeyMike01 should get back into development and compile an ICS ROM.
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Agreed. Serendipity was my first ROM to flash and no other GB ROM compares in my opinion. Everything was so smooth on 7, and the kitchen was a nice touch as well.
SRE ftw.
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