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its my first Windows Mobile experience i thought WM will more compatible in syncing with computer than the Symbian.
My Experience is that Symbian is more Stable once you bought it you dont need to update or something but you can install things on it and it never gets freeze nor crash like WM.
WM is faster than the Symbian but i think for a phone its not worth to spend time to repair it and you always feel scary that the phone in your pocket is working or got frozen
tell me your experience
Symbian S60v2 crashed a LOT more than WM5 did. And I never updated the rom. Don't know S60v3 (yet) and as for WM6, well all I know are usermade builds, no official roms. So I can't objectively comment on it. However, the HTC Edition rom worked very fine during the past few weeks. Had one crash which was while using some usermade beta software, so hard to tell if it's been that or the rom. As far as finalized software goes, I haven't had any problems under WM ... quite unlike S60, where even nokia apps tended to crash my phone.
However, my next device might well be another Symbian one. Don't have a clear preference tween the two.
HTC Touch Pro user comes in peace!
I have been given the go ahead by my company to choose a new smart phone and on my current phone, my biggest use is Active-sync. I am also our Exchange administrator. I do not use mobile office much at all.
Anyway, I am considering all my options and it basically boils down to a choice between an Android 2.1 and WP7 device.
What I want to know is, what are the differences between Active-sync on a Droid 2.1 and WP7 device.. I do not have the luxury of trying our multiple devices so I am relying on your help, hence my question here... I was under the impression that Active-sync support was much better in 2.1? I am not looking for a full on "which OS is better discussion
basically windows phone 7 provides full exchange support except tasks natively (already built in the phone). on android, you can get the same experience using third party applications (i've heard native is pretty shocking).
i'm sure others will chim in after me... but either will work fine, you may have to do more digging for android to work completely with exchange, but it's doable.
Note: from word around, Windows Phone really only works well with Exchange 2003 SP1 and onwards.
Old versions of exchange are not supported by ms so they dont support them in wp7 or outlook.
Wp7 has better support than android.
The os with the absolute best exchange support is wm6.5
It supports pretty much every exchange policy anf almost all exchange content...
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Also touchdown has terrible performance on some phones, like galaxy s. It looks like ass and itd menus/config screens are a mess.
Thats the only client worth using, tho...
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Hope you guys have patient to answer them.
First, I had an iPhone, an Android and now I have a WP7. I alway have two phones, and just sould my iPhone so I need another one. I was thinking about a Nexus S, but I want to try WebOS.
My questions:
I know HP bought Palm. They didn't released any phone until now, right? Are they working on WebOS update? Will it be released to palms handsets? I don't want to buy a phone today and tomorrow they release a new version to new phones and forget about me.
Apps? There is not Kik, WhatsApp, IM+ or whatever, right? I use a lot Google Talk and Kik to chat, and Facebook. There is any GTalk client? Facebook?
Do you guys recommend it? I know that, 99.99% of times, when you own a gadget, you have a bias for it. Being honest, I love WP7, but is flaw is apps. At least, in my opinion.
And.. which is the best hardware right now?
Unfortunately, Palm didn't sell phones in Brazil, so I have to buy one from USA. There is any unlock way like iPhone or already unlocked phones?
Thank you guys!
All current webOS phones will continue to be supported by HP, with the exception of legacy devices (palm pixi/plus, palm pre/plus, and I believe pre 2 I'm not sure though). As far as apps go, their are some great apps, the typical price is a little more expensive than android apps but not as expensive as blackberry apps. I would recommend getting a veer if you can deal with the size, if not then get a pre 3 (not sure if its out yet, lol, if not then get the pre 2). I have the palm pixi plus for Verizon and I love it, it only cost me $70 plus the touchstone back and charger on amazon.
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I know the palm pre/pre plus/pixi will not receive any more updates, but all new phones released by hp will. I am not sure about the pre 2.
If I were you I would wait till the pre 3 is released on at&t and see if you can unlock it. If you can't wait, check out reviews of the at&t hp veer. It is extremely tiny though.
Webos is my favorite operating system to use. I have used webos, android, blackberry and ios.
Google talk is built in to the messaging app on Webos. There are ways to integrate facebook chat as well.
Check out precentral.net
They have answers for everything involving webos. You will definitely get more help there.
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I would wait until Palm releases the Touchpad & the Pre3 - Hopefully, they will then "go global". Don't try buying one from the US! If you must, buy it from the UK - HP UK sells contract-less phones (I bought mine there).
There are many problems owning a Pre2 (as I do) outside the "official" countries. No access to paid apps mainly. Although I don't complain that much - I have what I need from free apps.
There is a version of IM+ available by the way. Facebook app comes standard. No GPS navigation except for Google Maps, but that requires you to be on line all the time while using it.
The operating system is SUPERB. The best I've ever used. Nothing comes close. It's super intuitive and FAST.
The phone itself is really nice to handle. I love the fact that it is smaller than most phones, and the hardware keyboard is wonderful.
One minus for the lack of autofocus in the rear camera, but you wouldn't use your phone for "serious" photography anyway.
Good luck!
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I know HP bought Palm. They didn't released any phone until now, right? Are they working on WebOS update? Will it be released to palms handsets? I don't want to buy a phone today and tomorrow they release a new version to new phones and forget about me.
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The first HP webOS phone was release last month, the Veer. webOS 3.0 is coming and will be on the Veer. WebOS 3.0 won't be on the Pre, Pre+, Pixi, or Pixi+. I don't know about the Pre 2.
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Apps? There is not Kik, WhatsApp, IM+ or whatever, right? I use a lot Google Talk and Kik to chat, and Facebook. There is any GTalk client? Facebook?
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There's no Kik or WhatsApp, but there is IM+ in the App Catalogue. Google Talk is built in to the default Messaging app. There is a Facebook app built-in as well, but it doesn't have Facebook chat. You can use Facebook chat with other apps.
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Do you guys recommend it?
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Definitely. Like you, I have two phones. I have a 2 year old Pre, and a 6 month old Desire Z. I much prefer the pre, even though the newer phone was supposed to be better.
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And.. which is the best hardware right now?
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Either the Veer or Pre 2. The Pre 3 is coming within a couple of months though, you might want to wait for that.
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Unfortunately, Palm didn't sell phones in Brazil, so I have to buy one from USA. There is any unlock way like iPhone or already unlocked phones?
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I know how you feel, they don't sell them in my country either (Australia). There is definitely ways to unlock them, and I think already unlocked ones too. Before buying one, make sure that you can get a credit card from one of the supported countries. The App Catalogue will only support payment with a credit card from those countries. Read this for full information: http://forums.precentral.net/worldwide-gsm-cdma/268775-official-app-catalog-geo-restrictions.html
and this: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...n-about-gsm-umts-frequencies.html#post2578597
Thank you so much.
I'll think about it, cause I really want to try it out. If not now, I'll wait HP here in Brazil. They've said that it will be here soon.
Loved the part about built-in google talk ;D
Thanks!
Both Aim and Google Chat are baked into the stock messaging app for the OS. They have no integration for Facebook chat, but there are some workarounds and it is coming to the touchpad (I would imagine it would come to the pre3 as well).
There isn't a ton in the way of apps on the market, but almost all of the basics are covered. If you want more than what is in the market, you can use preware and keep an eye on the beta feeds.
They do currently sell an unlocked Pre2 if you don't want to wait and see if they will sell an unlocked pre3.
Overall, it is a great OS.
You might have to wait a little to get the unlocked version of the phone. They do that in the States to get you to sign up for a contract on launch.
You can use Agile Messenger is like a All-in-one but sometimes is slow.
I am really starting to like WebOS a lot and since we know it is the tablets and not the OS that were scrapped, I have to wonder about a possible groundswell of new development for the native operating system.
I am not quite as excited as most about getting FroYo on this thing, I actually think it may be a downgrade, performance-wise. GingerBread struck me as slightly different than FroYo, but Honeycomb is sweet. I also have a Viewsonic Gtablet running the FlashBack Honeycomb ROM and it is pretty damn nice, but I find WebOS to be a little more elegant and refined feeling. Especially after installing PreWare and adding the performance patches and stuff.
I am not a developer, but there are a lot of them around here and quite a few of them either already got or will get a touchpad to play with. I am hoping that some of them will be impressed enough (or intrigued enough) to look at the WebOS SDK and PDK.
Since there are already drivers for full functionality within WebOS, I would think it would not be too arduous for some of these intrepid devs to port a few of the popular apps over for those sticking with it. There is also a web-based widget builder called Project Ares that looks interesting.
Anybody else? Bueller?
I would continue using WebOS if there's a way to use Android apps on it
Webos is probably my favorite tablet os now. The problem is there's no Apps for it. I bought the touchpad for my girlfriend yesterday and she said she loved it but after 10 minutes of just checking facebook and some websites she was like, ok what now?
They need more games optimized for it and better prices
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With no apps just think how youll never exhaust its resources
Just read a site claiming to have an andriod dump from HP's tablet. There will be decent android roms in no time.
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i'm kind of torn about using android on my TP.
i quite like the way webOS works.
i honestly can't understand why HP gave up on this thing. it's brilliant.
sure it's a little slow out of the box, but so was my HTC magic. a new rom fixed that.
it has fantastic support from the preware community.
i'm loving gestures and cards.
a 3G modem would've been nice (or a usb port to allow a dongle), but again not a big deal given that most phones these days can do wireless hotspot and 99.9% of the time if i have my tablet, i also have my phone. therefore it's always able to connect.
i'll admit the build quality leaves a bit to be desired, but for a first up effort it's pretty good.
the touchstone dock is brilliant.
i'm tempted to buy a second one so i'll have one at home and one at work.
i love android. (i'm somewhat of a fanboy)
i recommend it to friends all of the time. but after experiencing webOS i'm starting to wonder why.
EDIT: maybe HP will sell or licence webOS off to google and we can get the best of both worlds?
Since WebOS was released on the Pre few years ago I always wanted to try this OS as I mostly heard good comments about it and it looked good.
I must say that WebOS on a tablet is WOW! I love it.
I really hope new apps will be developed and that I will be able to continue to use WebOS.
I like my Android phone, but I would be happy continuing having a WebOS tablet.
I have heard that the HP Touchpad has a 3G and 4G wan aready on the chip and just waiting for software to activate. Just like the Nook color bluetooth that it never came with but was activated within Gingerbread.
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I really hope we will get the dual boot option. I would love to use that UbuntuChroot on it while enjoying Froyo or GB
I've always been interested in webOS ever playing witha mates palm pre. The cheap touchpads seemed like a great way of getting a webOS device.
I don't understand why people want to remove webOS, however I can understand trying to port android apps to it.
I'm still waiting delivery of my touchpad, cant wait to get playing around with it.
Does anyone know if I can mess with the browser so I can access chrome webapps?
I bought for two reasons, price and Android. For $149 you cant go wrong, I thought of buying more to try and sell for a small profit but decided against it. My local Arrons had one in their store, but had access to 6 more WebOS looks cool, but I am not familiar with it at all. I really dont care to learn it being WebOS is done. If worse comes to worse and only the Android market/APPS will work on it then I will be happy Heck, who am I kidding, at such a low price I am happy no matter what!
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I bought for two reasons, price and Android. For $149 you cant go wrong, I thought of buying more to try and sell for a small profit but decided against it. My local Arrons had one in their store, but had access to 6 more WebOS looks cool, but I am not familiar with it at all. I really dont care to learn it being WebOS is done. If worse comes to worse and only the Android market/APPS will work on it then I will be happy Heck, who am I kidding, at such a low price I am happy no matter what!
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The point is, WebOS is not "done." In fact, it sounds like HP is planning to put a lot more into it.
Here is what the VP of Developer Relations said: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos/
Hopefully the Palmdroid project produces results. Because I prefer the webOS experience.
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The point is, WebOS is not "done." In fact, it sounds like HP is planning to put a lot more into it.
Here is what the VP of Developer Relations said: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos/
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Yep, WebOS development will continue.
I really don't understand the cry for Android either. Froyo is not that amazing, Gingerbread isn't that great either. Heck, I have owned quite a few Honeycomb tablets (Xoom, rooted Nook Color, Dell Streak 7) and none of them impressed me.
I get that people here overwhelmingly like Android. But the only merit I can see for putting Android on this guy is for the apps. And, lets be honest, anything besides Android 3.X isn't even optimized for a large display like the touchpad. The Gmail application for example is just a giant list of emails. The WebOS email interface is leagues ahead because it actually takes advantage of the screen size by layering slide-panels instead of just being a giant list of messages!
WebOS is an awesome operating system. The only things holding it back to this point have been total garbage hardware (the Pre was trash) and a lack of developer interest. With HP pushing out hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these tablets in days, its safe to say that development will speed up on the WebOS front. Applications will start to trickle in faster, and things will improve.
The desire to have Android, yet alone a non 3.0 Android, on this thing just seems silly. But whatever, each to his or her own. I for one can appreciate the qualities of WebOS and will keep using it since it is a polished, tablet friendly operating system. After the "oh wow look what I did" factor of having Android 2.X on a tablet wore off, I realized non-Honeycomb Android on a tablet really sucks.
I already have an Android Tablet...it's cool.
I bought this for a cheap price, to have as a "coffee table" device for cruising the net and checking email. Maybe a youtube video once in a while.
AND...when you register the device you still get 50GB of cloud storage through box.net. I'm looking forward to using mine and have no intentions of putting any other OS on it...
I am a huge android fan, but Ill admit that after using the TP for a few days, WebOS is hands down a better tablet OS. Its just so much more structured. Thats why Im looking forward to see what comes out of the Palmdroid project. From my understanding, theyre trying to port the Dalvik VM over to WebOS which will allow android apps to run in "cards".
Been checking this every day for the past week now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230723
aim1126 said:
Webos is probably my favorite tablet os now. The problem is there's no Apps for it. I bought the touchpad for my girlfriend yesterday and she said she loved it but after 10 minutes of just checking facebook and some websites she was like, ok what now?
They need more games optimized for it and better prices
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WebOS is dead Install Android 3.2 Honeycomb
Haha no, not at all. This is the worst OS I've ever touched. The OS is overall sluggish and not made for a fluid experience what so ever.
I just had mine fail to download a 30MB System update about 10 or so times.
Browsing the poor apps in the market takes a minute to load each individual apps page.
The pre-installed "apps" are a link to go download it on the market which takes the aforementioned minute load of the page.
The best app would have to be the youtube app that opens up the browser to Youtube.com, absolutely ingenious!
It has. . nothing. On it. I can't even find apps if there were good apps, you can't go to the top of free apps.. there is either top, paid, or free search tabs but not a top free.
Even the browser leaves me yearning for more as I sit there and watch the checkered white boarder all over.
Is anyone else thinking about actually USING WebOS?
Yes, me!
Im running psycho-f15c-kernel-touchpad_3.0.2-41 on my ToychPad at 1.9GHz 100% stable! This thing is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaast!
Best and fastest Tab ever and WebOS is simply extraordinary... what a loss that that the best Tab EVER is discontinued and the most elegant and accomplished OS for a tablet has been sentenced to death. I have an ipad2 that I really like and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" that I use as my phone running Android 2.3.
Nothing touches WebOS, nothing! And nothing touches the speed of the Touchpad at 1.9Ghz! Ill use and love the Touchpad for as long as I can can, even iwht limited apps and an OS that is frozen in time. What a great loss, this is just so amazingly great! If HP had launched this a year ago and seriousely wanting to make it a success, this would be for sure the ipad killer... my a million miles.. really sad, but happy I have one and that works so well.
Thank guys for making this thing work so well and fast. XDA is the best community on the internet, period!
I just got my touchpad in the mail and have been playing with it for the last couple of hours. Here is my first impression:
wow, webos is pretty impressive. I owned and used iphones, ipads, android phones and tablets extensively and I can say that webos has the simplicity and user friendliness of ios and the multitasking and openness of android. Kind of best of both worlds. If it had the dev support of ios and android, it would certainly be better than ios and a huge competitor to android.
it is such a shame that it is almost dead. HP should have sold these tabs at $250 at launch ($50 below manufacturing cost) just like they do with the consoles and build dev support. Once established, they would make a ton of money off of their app market by selling media and apps just like apple.
introducing this tab at the same price point as the already established and ridiculously popular ipad with no apps and dev support was a quick and sure way to failure.
Such a shame. I really would have liked to see a mature webos platform as a strong competitor.
ps. I am writing this comment on my touchpad 32gb while listening to grooveshark on another browser window. The speakers are pretty loud and have great audio quality. Too bad Hulu just blocked access.
ps2. I really like the usa today app a lot. Nice job with the design and the use of gestures. That is exactly what touchcreen apps should be like
Defiantly liking WebOS alot but until more development takes place atm I will move to android when it surfaces.
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I couldn't find Swype available in the Marketplace. Is it available or in the works? I really like the thought of it seeing it on Android phones.
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I couldn't find Swype available in the Marketplace. Is it available or in the works? I really like the thought of it seeing it on Android phones.
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Thanks. Looks like reviews are terrible for it though. Sigh.
I used to have it on my WinMo HD2. It was more of a gimmick to me, but some people like it. I think google or someone bought the company out & made it android exclusive. I could be wrong though....
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Skype did get bought, but not by Google. The problem is the WP7 doesn't officially support third-party SIPs, so Swype didn't make one for the platform. Apple has the same restriction. It's not that Swype has become Google-exclusive officially, it's just that there's no other smartphone platforms left.
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Skype did get bought, but not by Google. The problem is the WP7 doesn't officially support third-party SIPs, so Swype didn't make one for the platform. Apple has the same restriction. It's not that Swype has become Google-exclusive officially, it's just that there's no other smartphone platforms left.
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Would third-party SIPs (such as Swype) be usable with a custom ROM or root access?
It's really hard to completely change wp7 standard keyboard to other. That's why even now there's standard keyboard in custom roms.
Well, you'd have to replace the keyboard binary with a different one that supports the same interface. This could be done in a custom ROM, I suspect - Swype may even be drop-in replacable, since it was meant to run on WinMo and some of the lower level stuff on WP7 has a fair bit in common with WinMo (even if the kernel is very different). I'm not a chef, though, and don't know the tricks and difficulties of ROM cooking.
Allthough I desperately hope for something like swype on WP I'd rather not have the winmo port as that was terrible. I hope there will be some real development sometime.
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Search 'swype beta install'on google.
Install as non market app.
It has an ICS version too.
Its brilliant. The best keyboard bar none!
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Yea well, on android, I'd agree, but... This is WP. And I was trying to say that the android-to-winmo port wasn't good, so I don't think an android to WP port would have much more success.
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I wondered why this thread was so quiet...
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