unCoRrUpTeD Dual Boot V1
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Maybe i can find a use for it
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HELL YEA!!! been waiting for this man..you are awsome! look forward to the release with anticipation. I did want to ask..whats a sufficient Micro Sd card to you(size wise)? i currently have a 2gb with about 1gb left would that be enough or should i go buy a 4gb?
+1 on this, will be really useful! Thanks for your work!
t12icky0 said:
HELL YEA!!! been waiting for this man..you are awsome! look forward to the release with anticipation. I did want to ask..whats a sufficient Micro Sd card to you(size wise)? i currently have a 2gb with about 1gb left would that be enough or should i go buy a 4gb?
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I currently have the partitions for /system and /data set as 200Mb. i am going to try and add on more for /cache, but I am looking into making it as small as possible, since many would not be installing a lot of extra apps. It could be as small as 330Mb total.
so will i need that APPS2SD thing for this?
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so will i need that APPS2SD thing for this?
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No. I will have instructions on setting up your sdcard
Right now my script is linux based. I'm not sure how much can be done with a batch script, but it will direct you in what you will need to do.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
No. I will have instructions on setting up your sdcard
Right now my script is linux based. I'm not sure how much can be done with a batch script, but it will direct you in what you will need to do.
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sweet..your the man..cant wait!
One important thing I would like to propose here for the developer is a "standard" location somewhere on the SD card which would keep all the common data such as contacts, recent sms, call logs, etc. so that multi boot environment can share data without loss or duplicates.
In other words, boot to CM6 tonight and in two days when you decide to go back to stock ROM, all your sms, phone calls and such are picked up right where you left them in CM6 and vice versa.
Other than that, this sounds like an awesome thing. Can't wait to have the phone boot one ROM for Monday, another for Tuesday, and another for Wednesday and another...
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One important thing I would like to propose here for the developer is a "standard" location somewhere on the SD card which would keep all the common data such as contacts, recent sms, call logs, etc. so that multi boot environment can share data without loss or duplicates.
In other words, boot to CM6 tonight and in two days when you decide to go back to stock ROM, all your sms, phone calls and such are picked up right where you left them in CM6 and vice versa.
Other than that, this sounds like an awesome thing. Can't wait to have the phone boot one ROM for Monday, another for Tuesday, and another for Wednesday and another...
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Not really possible. Different rom versions (2.1 vs 2.2) store the data in different formats. You'll have to rely on something like titanium backup to handle it.
How exactly is the dual-booting done? Does the batch script need to be controlled from the computer, or have you made a custom bootloader for on-the-fly switching?
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How exactly is the dual-booting done? Does the batch script need to be controlled from the computer, or have you made a custom bootloader for on-the-fly switching?
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very good question
It's pretty simple if you have ever extracted the ramdisk and kernel from boot.img
The recovery has not been modified and the only time a computer is used is to setup the ROM the first time. You have to modify the boot.img from the ROM you want to installed on the sdcard. Once it has been changed, all you do is flash the boot.img of the ROM you want. I have mine setup where everything for the ROM is stored on the sdcard (/system, /data, and /cache) but have not been able to test out cache yet.
The reason for a non modified recovery is so that it can be done on any android phone.
I may put up a way to do this while I look into the script.
that is awesome you got so far so quick. i was hoping the squashfs tip would help you out. cant wait to see what approach you took.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
It's pretty simple if you have ever extracted the ramdisk and kernel from boot.img
The recovery has not beenmodified and the only time a computer is used is to setup the ROM the first time. You have to modify the boot.img from the ROM you want to installed on the sdcard. Once it has been changed, all you do is flash the boot.img of the ROM you want. I have mine setup where everything for the ROM is stored on the sdcard (/system, /data, and /cache) but have not been able to test out cache yet.
The reason for a non modified recovery is so that it can be done on any android phone.
I may put up a way to do this while I look into the script.
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Oh, I see how you do the dual boot now. But I have one more question. How exactly do you get the rom on the SD? Do you use an ext partition or just put it on the FAT partition? Or is there some other partition type that I haven't heard of?
Sent from my Hero. It has a mind of its own
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Oh, I see how you do the dual boot now. But I have one more question. How exactly do you get the rom on the SD? Do you use an ext partition or just put it on the FAT partition? Or is there some other partition type that I haven't heard of?
Sent from my Hero. It has a mind of its own
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Since everyone has a different size sdcard and most do not want to format the sdcard completely I will provide instructions on how to partition it correctly.
t12icky0 said:
HELL YEA!!! been waiting for this man..you are awsome! look forward to the release with anticipation. I did want to ask..whats a sufficient Micro Sd card to you(size wise)? i currently have a 2gb with about 1gb left would that be enough or should i go buy a 4gb?
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Go on buy.com and get a 16gb sdcard for about 35 bucks, jesus lol !!!
CrashV2010 said:
Go on buy.com and get a 16gb sdcard for about 35 bucks, jesus lol !!!
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lol..i dont use that much space...as you can see i have 1gb left on my
2gb..LMAO! i would have like prolly 15gb left on it. So it would be pointless for me to get a 16gb.
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lol..i dont use that much space...as you can see i have 1gb left on my
2gb..LMAO! i would have like prolly 15gb left on it. So it would be pointless for me to get a 16gb.
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I have an 8GB class6. I have used about 4GB.
Post #2 has steps on setting up the sdcard
Just wondering but whats the plus side to this as opposed to just having different nandriod backups to flash between? I know it would be faster to boot but imo that's not woth all the partitioning of the sd card and what not. Now if it allowed you to run Windows Mobile roms from the SD then that would be awesome. I had a dual boot on my old HTC diamond and thats where I first discovered Android
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Hey guys, I was curious about something. I'm not sure if many people use my ROMs, so I wanted to find out who does. Who thinks I should ONLY focus on things like kitchens and porting tools and stuff, etc.
Should I work on a second set of ROM's, instead of a Just2Clean, a JustStuffed or something. Something with lots of features and programs, setup the way I would set it up.
Or work on Just2Clean simply so that I can use it on my kitchens?
Judging from the past quality of your roms, i highly condone and encourage you to create a "JustStuffed" rom. The only person any rom is perfect for is it's creator, and people should realize that.
Keep working on Just2Clean and the new kitchen, though. By the way, is there a way to use Just2Clean with EBO? I can't figure out how to decompile it.
Your ROM's are great, but...I...I just got used to the feeling I'm running my own ROM. As fzzyrn said, a ROM is always best for its creator. Now I'm running a ROM created in your first kitchan and it is fine. Thanks for all your work whatewer you do
I've voted for these two.
Work on both ROMs and Tools? They all ROCK! I'm using your ROM right now and it's fast and stable!
If you made the JustStuffed, I'd use it. I like the stability and speed, but it's too stripped.
But do what you love to do and don't follow other people's suggestions.
Do what you want to do. That's the only thing i can say.
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By the way, is there a way to use Just2Clean with EBO? I can't figure out how to decompile it.
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I'll have to remember to upload the raw kitchen files tonight. I haven't test it with every package, though, so you will probably have to solve a lot of multiple file errors.
Everyone else, thanks for the comments. Ok, I will release a Just2Stuffed!
Just tools. Start with a multiple scheduler calendar!
i am a very satisfied user of your superclean rom. thanks for you great work!
The ROM looks great, I just can't get any help with formatting the micro SD card and being able to run it...
But keep doing both!
b.mann said:
The ROM looks great, I just can't get any help with formatting the micro SD card and being able to run it...
But keep doing both!
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b. mann, when you format the SD card are you formatting it to FAT32 and not just FAT?
Do a full format, *not* quick.
Then copy the "HERAIMG.nbh" file to the blank SD card. Follow instructions on first post
I did this with a 1gig SD, no partitions and had no trouble. Try it and see if that helps.
ivanmmj, Just2Clean was the first ROM I've used of yours. Works great. Like being able to customize my phone just how I want it.
Might just have to play in the kitchen just because. It's like you just gave me the best recipe book in the world!
Do what you want; because it's quality!
One of these days when I have the time to flash and customize your rom will be on my phone lol, ive heard many good things and I really want a clean rom so I can make it more personal just need more time man lol!!!
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b. mann, when you format the SD card are you formatting it to FAT32 and not just FAT?
Do a full format, *not* quick.
Then copy the "HERAIMG.nbh" file to the blank SD card. Follow instructions on first post
I did this with a 1gig SD, no partitions and had no trouble. Try it and see if that helps.
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Mine is a 4gig, but i think i messed one up when I formated and partitioned, now it only recognizes one of my partitions...
But I did follow those instructions to a T
I had problems with my 4 gig going straight to the bootloader.
I didn't want to mess with the partitioning, so I used a 1 gig I had lying around. Sorry, can't help with that issue.
Did you try to fill up the SD with a dummy file until there is less that 1 gig free?
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I had problems with my 4 gig going straight to the bootloader.
I didn't want to mess with the partitioning, so I used a 1 gig I had lying around. Sorry, can't help with that issue.
Did you try to fill up the SD with a dummy file until there is less that 1 gig free?
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No, when I put into bootloader, no matter how I have it partitoned, it won't recognize my card....
Guess I'll get a 1 gig, they're 9 bucks on ecost
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No, when I put into bootloader, no matter how I have it partitoned, it won't recognize my card....
Guess I'll get a 1 gig, they're 9 bucks on ecost
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I had the same prob but then i hard spl'd (again) and it worked from the hard spl rom.
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No, when I put into bootloader, no matter how I have it partitoned, it won't recognize my card....
Guess I'll get a 1 gig, they're 9 bucks on ecost
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Sorry, I'm out of ideas, I guess that's what happens when you take the easy route.
i think i should mention that you can flash from SD even if there are other files on the card- it doesn't have to be empty except for heraimg.nbh
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i think i should mention that you can flash from SD even if there are other files on the card- it doesn't have to be empty except for heraimg.nbh
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Affirmative, my card is full of crap and it works just fine.
Hello everyone. I am branching over to XDA from Androidforums in need of more guidance.
First, let me say I HAVE searched for instruction to my post, I HAVE NOT been successful with any of my reading. I just closed three separate windows of firefox with a total of near 75 tabs, all related to apps2sd, but none giving the specific instruction I need.
If in reading this you can think of another thread that has my answer, PLEASE post it for me. -much appreciated
If not, please read and help if possible. (I am listing my set up in case it is user specific)
CDMA Hero
Rooted
RA-Heroc v1.2.3 Recovery
Fresh 1.0 Rom
My goal is to initialize and complete the process of setting up apps2sd system today.
I would like to sucessfully have this running and I cannot find any specific guide on "how to". I have however found MANY that speak about it after the fact.
So, please someone tell me what I need to do to set this up. I want apps off device and to have a "swap space (???)" set up.
Can I do this now (after having flashed custom rom) or do I need to start all over, beginning with apps2sd process first and then flashing Rom.
Detailed instructions much appreciated, or a link to appropriate thread.
THANKS!! Rep points for you!!
You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.
Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
EDIT: Does FreshROM 1.0 have apps2sd? I thought it only supported it if you had it on there previously.
EDIT: Never mind, I just saw this in the FreshROM apps2sd rant post - "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. "
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Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
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Got it, sorry, done.
jonnythan said:
You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.
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Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!
Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE
I swear I'm not a cop! I just made the same mistake once.
I tried looking for apps2sd info a while back and ran into your same dilemma. I ended up using Modaco's ROM (actually, I used the UNOFFICIAL updated modaco made by obelisk79) because it already had it on there.
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Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!
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Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
jonnythan said:
Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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Okay, I found it. Thanks for the help. Is this the same as "swapping" b/c I heard a lot of negative press about swapping only working well for a day.
Tipharet said:
Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE
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Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.
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Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.
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Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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...I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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It does.
I went back and read the "APPS2SD Rant" in flipz thread and it says: "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD".
TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.
TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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Yes, I'm using it. I have read flipzmode's rant about why he doesn't like Apps2SD. I have had no problems with it.
When I ran it with the modaco/obelisk79 ROM it seemed to keep the phone relatively speedy, even with a ton of apps installed. I am using FreshROM 1.0 now and I ended up uninstalling a few apps because of lag.
EDIT: I am not inferring that FreshROM is any slower. I think the problem is on my end! BTW, I am using a 16G class 6 card.
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No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.
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Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?
I just did this and it pushed my apps from what I can tell. My internal storage number went from around 90mb used to 52mb. Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?
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...Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?
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I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?
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Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?
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Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.
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I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?
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Well yeah you would certainly have to reformat. But in addition to that you would need to re-install your apps, since they would have been removed from the card.
I was reading somewhere that you can change a setting to zero which causes the hero to pull the apps back to internal storage, leaving you not needing to re-install. cAn't remember where setting is or where i found it...
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Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.
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yeah I can't remember how to do all the adb shell junk, oh well.
So i am planing on selling my G1 to a friend, now I told him I will root his phone, but heres the thing, I want to unlock it for him since he uses at&t, that I can already do
But I wish to root his phone but not have a custom build, Since most Iv tryed crash more then the phone should and he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
is it possible, and once again ill state it,
1)unlocked
2)root w/ superuser
3)No custom build or if I have to,do a good non apps on sd thats very very very stable
4)Donut (latest android version)
it is very possible to do app2sd on a 2g card. it's not the best, but it is extremely possible. i ran my phone with a2sd on a 2g card for several months and it worked perfectly fine.
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
grandomegabosses said:
sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
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well, I think there's under the hood stuff to make it run a bit faster, but apart from that, it's pretty close to stock. And like I said, his friend shouldn't complain about the extras, or else maybe he doesn't deserve it. lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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...he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
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And what is a problem to use app2sd on 2gb card? I use stock 1gb sd card for a2sd and everything is working fine.
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
holysmokesbatty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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I need root, not without =] unless w/ means with? lol can someone clarify?
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Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
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I dont care about features, if it has root, and no crashing, im good apps2sd is a plus so tell me more about this?
and lets say if i restarted my root process, how would i do it? the guides all have JF old roms in the tuts, idk what to install first after the guide
for everyone else. thanks much
so now that we have a working sd card is there any way to change the save location of the browser and camera to the new working sd card?
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.
Well, in my opinion, which may be wrong...and probably is.
The new sd mod mounts the actual sd as /sdcard2/.
The problem i see with this is all the apps are looking for /sdcard/.
Now I think the best way to handle it would be to symlink /sdcard/ and /sdcard2/ as one volume.
The problem with that is that the volume manager would probably freak the **** out when you take your sdcard out of the device.
I don't know though, maybe bigrush or whoever got it working has this thought out better than I would have - but I am a software developer, not a kernel developer. That **** hurts my head.
Right now, i don't have an extra SD card worth my time of putting in (biggest extra I have is 8 gigs).
The only point I really see in it at the moment is extra space available from a file manager.
I am not sure if media scanner has to be modified to include the new directory to pic up on pictures, movies, and audio.
06types said:
is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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Lol root your xoom and flash the new tiamat 1.3.0 kernel
oh, maybe ill just break down and root it... I didn't really see any point until now with the lack of roms out for this so far.
I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?
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I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?
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if you use the newest one click method with tiamat 1.3.1 you will be wiping your xoom's data back to stock as well. which means you'll have to setup your xoom again and reinstall all your apps again.
if you want to just flash the newest kernel w/out wiping the data just follow the instructions on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978013
Noticed today I'm able to move almost all of my apps to SD and not just the supported ones without having done anything but installing a rooted stock ROM and some standard goodies (SU, BusyBox, ROM Manager and Titanium Backup). Wondering if it was enabled by any of the above? the rooted ROM? or the stock ROM?
any takers?
Titanium backup, in "batch", has option to move all apps to either sd or internal memory.
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It's not true A2SD. Just a bunch of buggy symlinks in /data and incomprehensible files in /sdcard/.android-secure that Google is trying to pass off as A2SD.
Sent from a message in a bottle.
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It's not true A2SD. Just a bunch of buggy symlinks in /data and incomprehensible files in /sdcard/.android-secure that Google is trying to pass off as A2SD.
Sent from a message in a bottle.
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thanks. i rooted my phone right after the first stock boot so i couldn't tell if it came that way. It's just odd coming from 2.2 that everything all of a sudden is now movable, despite being not true a2sd.
psychedel!k said:
thanks. i rooted my phone right after the first stock boot so i couldn't tell if it came that way. It's just odd coming from 2.2 that everything all of a sudden is now movable, despite being not true a2sd.
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I know. Just because a bunch of people find hitting "partition SD card" in ClockworkMod Recovery too difficult doesn't mean those of us who want the full potential of our phones unlocked should suffer, but we're stuck until someone finds us the mountpoint for sd-ext.
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I know. Just because a bunch of people find hitting "partition SD card" in ClockworkMod Recovery too difficult doesn't mean those of us who want the full potential of our phones unlocked should suffer, but we're stuck until someone finds us the mountpoint for sd-ext.
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you all need to check out link2sd (free app) it will let you install apps to ext partition. I myself use it and have a 8gb ext3 partition with over 550+ apps/games installed. It also lets you decide if you want to move dalvikcache and library files to ext to save more internal space. I used mini tool partition app on my pc to create a larger ext partition then cwm would allow.
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d12unk13astard said:
you all need to check out link2sd (free app) it will let you install apps to ext partition. I myself use it and have a 8gb ext3 partition with over 550+ apps/games installed. It also lets you decide if you want to move dalvikcache and library files to ext to save more internal space. I used mini tool partition app on my pc to create a larger ext partition then cwm would allow.
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I'll try it on my days off. Thanks for the tip!
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blackknightavalon said:
..we're stuck until someone finds us the mountpoint for sd-ext.
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sorry can you explain how and where we're stuck on and is that specific to our device?
blackknightavalon said:
I know. Just because a bunch of people find hitting "partition SD card" in ClockworkMod Recovery too difficult doesn't mean those of us who want the full potential of our phones unlocked should suffer, but we're stuck until someone finds us the mountpoint for sd-ext.
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psychedel!k said:
sorry can you explain how and where we're stuck on and is that specific to our device?
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WIP Memory Address Listing
You need to know where to put and access the data, explicitly, in order to be able to use that location.
Android does this by using mount-points, which translates to the memory address where it should be looking for the information.
The thread I linked to is one I started so that we can discover them all, and what mount points correspond to what memory address.
Please make sure to read post number 8 in the thread by dhkr234 which spells out a good caution about using memory addresses directly and why you should be using mount points instead.
If anyone makes any headway in learning anything we don't know so far, please post it in that thread so we can get a comprehensive listing of mount points and what memory addresses they correspond to.
I've been extremely busy on other projects, but if someone is going to come by and make A2SD available for us, having a road-map for them to follow already sitting here will make their life a lot easier. ( ...and maybe encourage someone to do it because the info is sitting there. )
...and yes, it is specific to our device. Every device addresses the internal memory differently and that makes the mount-points unique to each and every device.
gotcha, so...piecing this all together, does that mean that a true A2SD shouldn't rely on symlink at all and Link2SD (what d12unk13astard recommended) is essentially just another hack?
psychedel!k said:
gotcha, so...piecing this all together, does that mean that a true A2SD shouldn't rely on symlink at all and Link2SD (what d12unk13astard recommended) is essentially just another hack?
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The real A2SD is not "just another hack," it's one of the ORIGINAL post-root hacks pioneers like JesusFreke came up with. It allows you to put your apps on an EXT partition of your SD card, and you can resize that partition if your computer runs a Linux distribution.
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The real A2SD is not "just another hack," it's one of the ORIGINAL post-root hacks pioneers like JesusFreke came up with. It allows you to put your apps on an EXT partition of your SD card, and you can resize that partition if your computer runs a Linux distribution.
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that i got, and sorry for being a pain..so then what difference does having a mountpoint or not make?
psychedel!k said:
that i got, and sorry for being a pain..so then what difference does having a mountpoint or not make?
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Read the previous posts.
psychedel!k said:
that i got, and sorry for being a pain..so then what difference does having a mountpoint or not make?
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Either:
blackknightavalon said:
Read the previous posts.
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Or read this one again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19163237&postcount=8
dhkr234 said it good there.
I linked so someone who wants more of an explanation can follow and read up.
In short, you can very easily write to the wrong memory address.
This means:
Installing some silly game over parts of both your boot partition and recovery partition would give you a cool slide-paperweight.
Mount points prevent this from happening by ensuring the data is written to the proper memory addresses.