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I'm through with Samsung and their junk!

For anyone wanting to know if they should by a Galaxy S phone or not here is my 2 cents worth. The phone has decent hardware, except maybe for the GPS. The screen is the best I've ever used.
So much for the good stuff. If you are one of those users who reloads phone ROMs every week then by all means, this is the phone for you. If you are a user who wants to buy a phone that does what it is advertised to do then STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE!!!
The first requirement for a phone on my list is to be able to syncronize AT LEAST my contact list. If all you use is Google then you are one of the lucky ones. If you want to syncronize with Outlook you will have better luck buying lottery tickets. I've tried to syncronize 2 different Captivate phones with 5 different computers. On 2 of the computers I was ably to get the phone to sync one time on each computer. The rest of the times it ranges from the phone saying it is connected and the computer constantly looking for a connection to the Samsung software not even running. After spending more than 3 hours with Samsung Tech support, both tier 1 and tier 2, the final resolution was this: We are sorry but Samsung does not support Kies and syncronizing in North America! So if I move to say, Vietnam, Samsung will help me but since I live in North America I'm screwed? Are you kidding me? They recommended going to the Android Market and buying software that will let me do what I want. This isn't even an option for me though since I cannot even get the Samsung USB drivers to load. No amount of aftermarket software is going to fix that but obviously Samsung got my money already so it's not their problem anymore.
I guess this is the way the world works anymore. We already got your money so screw you! That's OK. I'll buy many more electronic devices in my life. Many may be good and many may be bad but I do know one thing...none will ever be Samsung again!!!!!

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Every phone has flaws, and the samsung rep gave the best info available. This phone was never advertised to sync to outlook, nor is it possible to sync it with stock. If you want to sync outlook, google for apps to do that. To say that this phone is junk simply because it won't fit your exact needs is just greedy. If you want a phone that is specifically for business out of the box, then get a blackberry. Crying about what your phone cant do is pointless, go google around and fix it rather than complain.
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iRetard said:
Every phone has flaws, and the samsung rep gave the best info available. This phone was never advertised to sync to outlook, nor is it possible to sync it with stock. If you want to sync outlook, google for apps to do that. To say that this phone is junk simply because it won't fit your exact needs is just greedy. If you want a phone that is specifically for business out of the box, then get a blackberry. Crying about what your phone cant do is pointless, go google around and fix it rather than complain.
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Yep, winmo or bb. Sell the phone and get a wp7 in a month and a half.
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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Sour people like this don't know what they have.... go talk to an iphone user with dropped calls and crappy data.... phone is great and works well with exchange. Sure gps could be better but this phone is easily the best phone i have seen and owned.
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I came from an iphone to the captivate. I use this phone for business and it works just fine. I don't rely on my phone for important e-mail, rather I forward from my mail server to my gmail account. It would be foolish for anyone to rely on a phone exclusively for anything of great importance. I took the time to add all of my regular contacts(300+) to my gmail account and eliminated the problem of synchronization with outlook. After the update, my GPS works just fine, but I do have a real gps in my truck if needed. I don't expect my 200.00 phone to replace A real GPS unit(200.00), a real computer(1200.00 give or take) and thousands in software. I only expect it to compliment them and it does this nicely. I enjoy this phone much more than my old iphone or blackberry.
And FWIW, my Samsung BluRay player and TV work great!

I'm just happy that ATT finally got around to offering a high-end Android handset. I waited for so long with my iPhone 3G. I followed press-releases up to the launch of the Galaxy S line, and on launch day went and bought my phone. I also got one for my GF. We both love our phones. Not that they don't have their issues, but I've never had a phone that didn't have some kind of issues.
My GPS works SOMETIMES, which is ok by me as I don't need it all the time, and I can always just look at the maps which are always available if I'm really in a pinch. The only real complaint I have about this phone is the Touchwiz UI. I didn't dump my iPhone to get something thats trying to be an iPhone...but thats ok as ROMs will take care of that!
You can spend your whole life searching for a phone or consumer electronic device that doesn't have problems. They will all encounter issues at one point or another. My next handset will probably be an HTC, but that doesn't mean I'd completely swear off Samsung all together.
Finally, in us coming together and trying to figure out all these problems and ways to improve our phones we are embracing what Android is all about. I like learning about this stuff and trying different things with my phone. If I wanted something that a 3 year old could use, I'd go back to the iPhone.

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I'm just happy that ATT finally got around to offering a high-end Android handset. I waited for so long with my iPhone 3G. I followed press-releases up to the launch of the Galaxy S line, and on launch day went and bought my phone. I also got one for my GF. We both love our phones. Not that they don't have their issues, but I've never had a phone that didn't have some kind of issues.
My GPS works SOMETIMES, which is ok by me as I don't need it all the time, and I can always just look at the maps which are always available if I'm really in a pinch. The only real complaint I have about this phone is the Touchwiz UI. I didn't dump my iPhone to get something thats trying to be an iPhone...but thats ok as ROMs will take care of that!
You can spend your whole life searching for a phone or consumer electronic device that doesn't have problems. They will all encounter issues at one point or another. My next handset will probably be an HTC, but that doesn't mean I'd completely swear off Samsung all together.
Finally, in us coming together and trying to figure out all these problems and ways to improve our phones we are embracing what Android is all about. I like learning about this stuff and trying different things with my phone. If I wanted something that a 3 year old could use, I'd go back to the iPhone.
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Just wanted to mention that you do not have to root and flash ROMS to get out of TouchWiz UI. You can install another launcher like TouchPro which I use and is the best for customizing away from the iPhone feel if you like.

Love threads like this, especially when it is the OP's first post.

Samsung Homers
Flame all you want but when the ATT rep selling me the phone says it will sync I firmly believe it is my right to expect it to sync. If Samsung isn't going to support my phone why make me waste 3 hours talking to them before they tell me to go away. You are free to do as you please but I am also free to let others know what to expect before they make a purchase. Newbies beware. You would be well advised not to listen to only me or these others who would lead you to belive it is the best phone you can buy.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST!!
One thing is for sure. SAMSUNG WILL NOT SUPPORT YOU IF YOU LIVE IN NORTH AMERICA. If you do not believe me then go to Samsungs website and download the Kies app. NOTE: You will have to switch to a region outside of North America to even get to the download. Look through the forums. Other posts will also show this same thing. Once you install Kies, after you finally can find it, then try to go to the Android Market in the app. It will tell you it is not supported in your region. Once you buy this phone you are on your own supporting yourself.
I do think it is funny that you flamers are suggesting if I want a phone that really works I should by WinMo or Blackberry.

Sounds more like it should be " I'm through with AT&T and their crap"
So you listened to an AT&T rep about what a phone could do, the phone didn't do it, so you blame the phone? Why not blame the AT&T rep for lying to you, it's not the phones fault.
I do think it is funny that you flamers are suggesting if I want a phone that really works I should by WinMo or Blackberry.
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All the things you've complained about are fixable, and most all of them with quick app downloads. This will be the same thing for all Android phones, if it's not there, an app is probably made for it anyways. You seem to be too lazy to look for ways to customize your Android phone for what you need, or even research it, so a different phone OS is probably best for you.

I am wondering what phone you will be going to from the captivate.
As i said before, android is for people who like to read manuals, or who know and take the time to program a universal remote. If you don't have patience for that stuff stick with an iphone.
I am loving my captivate with ssh, rdp, vnc, logmein, vpn, keyring, canon printing from my phone... list goes on and on...
These phones are just like blackberries, it is pretty hard to brick them.. so what can't you figure out here, that you would need to call them about?
still easily the best phone i have ever seen or used to date, and after killing the phone all day with 4+ hours of talk, web, twitdroid, weatherbug, facebook, gps, etc.. I still charge at night with about 30% battery life...
I am one happy dood.

I think most of you are being a little harsh with this guy. This guy expects a good experience out of the box and he didn't get it. Whether it was lack of knowledge, something someone told him, whatever. Having been in the technical support business most my life, I expect things to not work as I want even before I get my new phone. I research the issues in the forums expecting to come across them before my new phone is in my hands. It really shouldn't be this way. Perfect example is GPS. This didn't work properly out of the box for MOST people including myself. How can you release anything where a major feature just simply does not work? And on top of that, take over 2 months to come out with an update where no one knows for sure if it was addressed or not? And further, the update fails for most people? And even bricks phones? What happens when an update is forced on you, you are out of warranty and your phone is bricked? This seems like a big problem to me.
I just got my phone and I love it. But I am one that is skeptical on owning another Samsung phone again. My update failed at 100% and I am happy that my phone was not fried. My GPS is now working thank goodness but the failed update has me concerned. What happens when Froyo update comes out? I suspect we will be here again with 1000 threads on how the update fried phones. All issues I blame Samsung, they need to control these updates and take responsibility for failures. Calling ATT for an update failure should automatically send you to Samsung where they need to resolve the issue regardless. If that is a replacing the phone, so be it. ATT and Samsung pointing fingers at each other will not resolve the actual issue or even help to figure out what the issue is. Instead of pointing fingers, technical support should be gathering information and log files, isolate the problem, and come up with a fix. That does not seem to be happening in my opinion.
And on top of all this, there needs to be a supported way to restore the phone back to factory OS regardless of what you do to it. We can do this with our Windows OS! And ODIN does not count. If you flash that to JH6 and try to update, you get 50% failure so that is not a true restore.
I would expect better from a device that is $500+ with no carrier commitment.

well it is easier for a windows device to talk to a windows device.
not so much for linux and windows.
that, not the gps is this phones biggest flaw.(in my opinion)
just hope they got this bug worked out of the tab

keitht said:
Just wanted to mention that you do not have to root and flash ROMS to get out of TouchWiz UI. You can install another launcher like TouchPro which I use and is the best for customizing away from the iPhone feel if you like.
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Yeah I checked out the launchers and decided on ADW Launcher. What a difference!
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catfan said:
for anyone wanting to know if they should by a galaxy s phone or not here is my 2 cents worth. The phone has decent hardware, except maybe for the gps. The screen is the best i've ever used.
So much for the good stuff. If you are one of those users who reloads phone roms every week then by all means, this is the phone for you. If you are a user who wants to buy a phone that does what it is advertised to do then stay away from this one!!!
The first requirement for a phone on my list is to be able to syncronize at least my contact list. If all you use is google then you are one of the lucky ones. If you want to syncronize with outlook you will have better luck buying lottery tickets. I've tried to syncronize 2 different captivate phones with 5 different computers. On 2 of the computers i was ably to get the phone to sync one time on each computer. The rest of the times it ranges from the phone saying it is connected and the computer constantly looking for a connection to the samsung software not even running. After spending more than 3 hours with samsung tech support, both tier 1 and tier 2, the final resolution was this: We are sorry but samsung does not support kies and syncronizing in north america! So if i move to say, vietnam, samsung will help me but since i live in north america i'm screwed? Are you kidding me? They recommended going to the android market and buying software that will let me do what i want. This isn't even an option for me though since i cannot even get the samsung usb drivers to load. No amount of aftermarket software is going to fix that but obviously samsung got my money already so it's not their problem anymore.
I guess this is the way the world works anymore. We already got your money so screw you! That's ok. I'll buy many more electronic devices in my life. Many may be good and many may be bad but i do know one thing...none will ever be samsung again!!!!!
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godbless you my brother

Ok just go die a happy death ,att/sam/craptivate

Oma fuhreekin gawd!! Finally someone who understands how much this phone sucks!! I was under the impression this phone would do EVERYTHING.
Well i don't want to try and sell my phone and buy another phone. Let me start and write a long ass story on how my phone ruined my life.
My life sucks and Im alone and my phone isn't filling that void. So i was sold this phone had many free apps to do whatever i want. So i tried when i bought this phone.
Heres my story about that.
I want my phone to be my bestfriend. So i found this app and it talk back to me when i talk to it. But it only speaks spanish. I've been ok with it for the first 30 days i owned the phone, but now its really starting to piss me off and i can't take it back because i waited til after 30 days. If i wanted a phone that speaks spanish i wouldn't have bought this! I want an English phone. Too late, screw you Samsung!
I don't want to have to use apps to make my phone better. I don't even want to mod it a little. Even if it makes it amazing. I want it to be perfect when its out of the box. And only want to use it. No apps. You know what i mean.
Im impatient because my life sucks and i can't wait for updates.
And btw wtf My PHONE doesn't do all the same things my computer does. I hate this.
And like i said, i was under the impression this phone does everything..
Well. It has yet to tie my fawkin shoes. So fawk this phone!!
Can i get a fistpump!!?!
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jasonyump said:
Oma fuhreekin gawd!! Finally someone who understands how much this phone sucks!! I was under the impression this phone would do EVERYTHING.
Well i don't want to try and sell my phone and buy another phone. Let me start and write a long ass story on how my phone ruined my life.
My life sucks and Im alone and my phone isn't filling that void. So i was sold this phone had many free apps to do whatever i want. So i tried when i bought this phone.
Heres my story about that.
I want my phone to be my bestfriend. So i found this app and it talk back to me when i talk to it. But it only speaks spanish. I've been ok with it for the first 30 days i owned the phone, but now its really starting to piss me off and i can't take it back because i waited til after 30 days. If i wanted a phone that speaks spanish i wouldn't have bought this! I want an English phone. Too late, screw you Samsung!
I don't want to have to use apps to make my phone better. I don't even want to mod it a little. Even if it makes it amazing. I want it to be perfect when its out of the box. And only want to use it. No apps. You know what i mean.
Im impatient because my life sucks and i can't wait for updates.
And btw wtf My PHONE doesn't do all the same things my computer does. I hate this.
And like i said, i was under the impression this phone does everything..
Well. It has yet to tie my fawkin shoes. So fawk this phone!!
Can i get a fistpump!!?!
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.... lol

keitht said:
This guy expects a good experience out of the box and he didn't get it.
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I have never seen a powerful multi-use electronic device that has worked perfectly the way it's wanted right out of the box though. A computer does not come with software and accessories. An ipod has never come full of the music you want. A camera doesn't come with the batteries, cards and lenses.
Accessories and add-ons are always needed to customize a device to one's own use. It requires a lot more set up than out of the box.
I respect when someone does not like or recommend something they've used, tried to get it to work right, and could not get it working. We all know that most major companies have horrible customer service, who don't know what they're talking about. But to hate a device and write about it because it doesn't meet the customized standards you want right of the box?
This is what this forum is for. Troubleshooting and creating, without the need of the large companies telling us what to do. He hasn't asked anyone here if there is a solution to the problem, or tried to get help. Even in this thread someone got help with something they wanted changed. People around here are eager to find solutions to problems we have.
I understand not liking the phone out of the box. But the problem is with not understanding the OS, apps, and also an AT&T rep. It may have needed a little research, but usually any high-end electronic device does. This is like me buying a Canon 1D dslr, and saying that it's crap because it doesn't fit the lenses I already have, and someone said my SD card would fit in it, but it doesn't...

Prepare for disappointment... Again

Sorry for this but it totally torn my heart apart to see a 5 times less expensive phone with such a performance when it comes to gps..
Sorry for the bad quality of the image and the way is turned.i was in the car on a bumpy road.
Both devices were started in the same time and not just htc locked immediately but .. Just check the pic and the accuracy of the GPS
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My friend just got the Samsung mesmerize from us cellular and its the same exact hardware but his gps is worst than mine on stock. I was able to lock in after 2 min with 5 meter acurracy he never locked and was at 1500 meters
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i was at the verizon store as im contemplating jumping ship for the fascinate, or maybe waiting for the future 4g phones. i have cognition 2.3b1 and an overclock kernel with stock modem(my area has no 3g so i dont need hsupa) i compared my phone to 3 diferent fascinates and a droid x a droid 2 and droid incredible. my gps was comparble to the motorola phones, the fascinate was ****!. win for froyo, not for samsung.
the driod incredible mopped the floor with everything else but that may have been a fluke. posibly saved in memory, the stores roof did a good job of blocking gps because even the motorolas never got a fix better than 30 meters. my phone eventually got 10 meters but quickly lost it. the driod increadible had a lock at 7 meters before i even got maps open on my phone! if that wasn't luck i must say im impressed! still im happy with my current gps quality. im not envious of the incredible as smooth as the os is and as good as the gps appears to be the snapdragon cant process 3d to save it's life.

Dani897 said:
i was at the verizon store as im contemplating jumping ship for the fascinate, or maybe waiting for the future 4g phones. i have cognition 2.3b1 and an overclock kernel with stock modem(my area has no 3g so i dont need hsupa) i compared my phone to 3 diferent fascinates and a droid x a droid 2 and droid incredible. my gps was comparble to the motorola phones, the fascinate was ****!. win for froyo, not for samsung.
the driod incredible mopped the floor with everything else but that may have been a fluke. posibly saved in memory, the stores roof did a good job of blocking gps because even the motorolas never got a fix better than 30 meters. my phone eventually got 10 meters but quickly lost it. the driod increadible had a lock at 7 meters before i even got maps open on my phone! if that wasn't luck i must say im impressed! still im happy with my current gps quality. im not envious of the incredible as smooth as the os is and as good as the gps appears to be the snapdragon cant process 3d to save it's life.
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GPS issues aside..you couldn't pay me enough money to jump back to Verizon or Sprint. With out a doubt the worst c/s,store techs and management I have ever had to deal with in my life at both companies. Also..I compared a brand new Droid X to my Captivate 2 nights ago at work..Actually..there was no comparison..the signal quality,speed of browsing..both through the phone and on the Internet..the Cappy won hands down..and this really really irked the Droid owner.Hell she even ask me to load the Fancy Widget weather for her because she hated the lame stock one on her phone..and wanted hers to look like mine.The quality of the Captivates screen was plainly evident too...She just couldn't get over how smooth and crystal clear the movies I had loaded played and looked...
So..Good luck if you decide to do this..but personally..I would at least wait and see if the 2.2 update gets delivered as stated and fixes the gps issue for you.The grass may look greener on the other side of the fence..but may not be taste any better...
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Mac11700 said:
GPS issues aside..you couldn't pay me enough money to jump back to Verizon or Sprint. With out a doubt the worst c/s,store techs and management I have ever had to deal with in my life at both companies. Also..I compared a brand new Droid X to my Captivate 2 nights ago at work..Actually..there was no comparison..the signal quality,speed of browsing..both through the phone and on the Internet..the Cappy won hands down..and this really really irked the Droid owner.Hell she even ask me to load the Fancy Widget weather for her because she hated the lame stock one on her phone..and wanted hers to look like mine.The quality of the Captivates screen was plainly evident too...She just couldn't get over how smooth and crystal clear the movies I had loaded played and looked...
So..Good luck if you decide to do this..but personally..I would at least wait and see if the 2.2 update gets delivered as stated and fixes the gps issue for you.The grass may look greener on the other side of the fence..but may not be taste any better...
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now im off topic but the thing is that att corperate is holding them back in my area, we have been waiting for 3g for years they have teased us about it's coming in 2months since i got my iphone or even prior to. they installed the updates in september and the store reps said 29september was the day. now they say they dont know when. the network was tested in september causing no internet, spotty texting and dropped calls for 3 weeks then about 12 hours of 3g then back to the old system.
the verizon rates look identical to mt att plan, they have unlimited data again, the calls dont drop when the phones have good service like my bad network policies in this area do to lack of bandwidth and they have vetrans discounts. att has active duty discounts but not vetrans, although i did get them to apply a discount do to there own ignorance but if it they catch it i can loose it.
ill certainly wait for froyo on the facsinate before i choose and read there forums ect. and i may wait for a 4g phone. att has zero press on hspa+ that i can find and we cant even get a hsupa enabled phone. att can call and surf the web at the same time and as far as i know verizon cant (i actually do that quite often), hopefully 4g will allow that(a question i forgot to ask), the store rep say 4g will be in my are in the spring(they are usually misinformed so ill see)
roll over minutes are a plus on att.
obviously i havent made a decision, i was just comenting on my gps performance being on par with motorola with an unofficial froyo build.

Stupid question perhaps since I'm new to Android but what app was used in the original post to test the GPS?

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Stupid question perhaps since I'm new to Android but what app was used in the original post to test the GPS?
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GPS Test, it's on the market.

I've had my captivate for about six or seven weekd now and could not get a lock at all when it was stock for the first hour or two that i had it. I started flashing roms and have tried a bunch including most Cog roms and several with the setiron kernel. since going to the perception build 3 and now 4, i lock in a matter of seconds and stay locked. this thing is fantastic now. Before this I was just using my old Nokia E71 for navigation. Not any more. My Captivate is great now.

My captivate looks like the first phone all the time. Stock. Exchange your phone if GPS is a problem.
Bob

Here's my Captivate. I took this with ShootMe. I don't use GPS too much so I'm no expert. However, it would seem this is pretty good. Can someone interpret this for me if I off base.
Mike

MicroBeta said:
Here's my Captivate. I took this with ShootMe. I don't use GPS too much so I'm no expert. However, it would seem this is pretty good. Can someone interpret this for me if I off base.
Mike
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Lol easy..... You seem to have working gps
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i have A htc aria...The gps is spot on...i can actually tell what room of a house i am in...its that accurate....my captivate rarely gets in the neighborhood let alone my house. I love the phone but using gps is one of the things i use my phone for alot. I'm looking to go from att to tmobile soon so the phone will probably go.
Update. I ran gps test...it says accurate to 32 ft. I closed it and opened google maps....its off by at least 1 mile!

Could there be a class action lawsuit for this? Considering its an advertised feature or a massive recall? Or is the GPS not that important?
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icezar1 said:
Sorry for this but it totally torn my heart apart to see a 5 times less expensive phone with such a performance when it comes to gps..
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I am sorry what is this 5 times less expensive phone you are talking baout ??
the captivate is under 200$ with acontract here and 550 without one so you are saying I could get a phone with decent camera and hardware + GPS brand new for around 130 $ taxes included please let em know where and when I can purchase this phone ///
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skippyg said:
Could there be a class action lawsuit for this? Considering its an advertised feature or a massive recall? Or is the GPS not that important?
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Go ahead start a suit, if it gains traction I'll join.

ns4g whos keeping it and whos not?

well ive decided today that im putting mine up for sale on craigslist for full asking price and im going to go buy a new evo. this will be the last samsung i buy.
i was going to hold onto it and wait for the signal fix but once again today i went 90% of the time without a signal and my phone died in 7 hours at work. i need something that will last.
i wish you all luck!
so whos keeping it and whos not?

For someone with an alias of Fixer, you sure do a lot of complaining and not a lot of fixing.

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For someone with an alias of Fixer, you sure do a lot of complaining and not a lot of fixing.
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funny but there's nothing i can fix on a defective phone. anyways stay on topic please.

More spamming of this board with your complaining. The phone is not defective.. That definition would clearly mean hardware issues. You still fail to realize not everyone is suffering your issues. I understand that people are, and do believe all of you, but do not generalize something that has been clearly said it's not happening to all consumers that own the device. But again STOP spamming this board and others with your negativity. You have been saying for a week now that you got that device on an upgrade and were still in the 30 day window for return. So why wouldn't you just return it and get another device? Sounds to me someone is lying.
Just to add.. My Nexus S is flawless and I love my device. Wouldn't trade it for another phone.

Love my NS4G. I wouldn't trade it for anything but another nexus. I can live with some signal issues. I'm sure sprint will come through.
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fixxxer2008 said:
well ive decided today that im putting mine up for sale on craigslist for full asking price and im going to go buy a new evo. this will be the last samsung i buy.
i was going to hold onto it and wait for the signal fix but once again today i went 90% of the time without a signal and my phone died in 7 hours at work. i need something that will last.
i wish you all luck!
so whos keeping it and whos not?
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Good luck man
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Oh dear God, you're gonna start showing up more in the Evo section again, huh? We were just getting used to your fading number of posts.
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Just go already, why do you insist on badmouthing this device? I'm sorry you seem to have a defective one but its really falling on deaf ears posting your rants here. Do you really think sprint Samsung or Google even read this stuff? And another thing...these forums are visited by a very small percentage of folks who own theses devices...so starting something here is not effective. You need to hassle them on twitter or android central ....
On topic, I love this device and am committing to Google backed devices from here on out. I am so sick of all the carrier bloatware on the other ones. I am also one who swore off Samsung after having a moment and then an epic but changed my tune when I heard the Google nexus was coming to sprint, I was toying with the idea of switching carriers just for it but now I have the best of both worlds IMO.....so please stop with the pity party already and move on, no need to rain on our parade because you have no patience to let things get resolved like returning the phone and getting another one maybe...this device isn't even a month old, you do know how long it took HTC to get the evo straightened out right?
Sorry for my rant but I've been watching your posts for a while now and not saying anything so maybe its my fault for penting it up....
Long live aosp!
sent from the nexus of the 4g universe

fixxxer2008 said:
once again today i went 90% of the time without a signal
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Dude, that is WAY outside the numbers that EVERYONE who claim to be experiencing signal issues are encountering. There is clearly something above and beyond what others are experiencing going on with your handset. I can't remember if/how many times you swapped it out but I would probably try that first/again.
My NS4G fluctuates between 0% and 1% time without a signal. It never fails to connect and pass data. The 3G and especially 4G speeds are just slower...that's all. The battery lasts well over 12 hours of solid usage.
Right now I'm on the fence about returning it...not for this issue but because I am considering the Evo 3d instead.

Apparently you guys arent visiting the sprint forums. I meant i had zero bars almost 90% of the time today. Do some research before you critize anyone. And no i dont hate the phone i just hate the issues.
If i hated it i wouldnt of published a theme for you guys.

conqu1stador said:
Oh dear God, you're gonna start showing up more in the Evo section again, huh? We were just getting used to your fading number of posts.
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Yup as arnold said... ill be back!

I really like the phone but yeah signal problems are killing me right now. Especially with WiFi. If I move one room away from my router my WiFi signal drops to 1 bar.
I really cant complain about phone signal as I really have not used the phone much...what I can say is...it works when I need it. I think I will just hang on till the EVO 3D comes out...hopefully the E3D wont be plagued with bugs (crosses fingers).

DarkManX4lf said:
I really like the phone but yeah signal problems are killing me right now. Especially with WiFi. If I move one room away from my router my WiFi signal drops to 1 bar.
I really cant complain about phone signal as I really have not used the phone much...what I can say is...it works when I need it. I think I will just hang on till the EVO 3D comes out...hopefully the E3D wont be plagued with bugs (crosses fingers).
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Id wait for the 3d too but it looks as it will be another month before it comes. I do know ill never buy a phone at launch again. Ill give it a few months. Im sure the 3d will have bugs too and probbably bad battery life.
I think the reason for my current bad battery is because of a bad signal. I just cannot see this being a sprint network issue.

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fixxxer2008 said:
well ive decided today that im putting mine up for sale on craigslist for full asking price and im going to go buy a new evo. this will be the last samsung i buy.
i was going to hold onto it and wait for the signal fix but once again today i went 90% of the time without a signal and my phone died in 7 hours at work. i need something that will last.
i wish you all luck!
so whos keeping it and whos not?
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You want a phone that will last but you are getting an Evo? I came from the Evo and it was, without a doubt, the buggiest phone I've ever had. It was also a battery hog. I don't think you will be pleased with it if you don't like the Nexus S.

Have you tried swapping it out yet?
fixxxer2008 said:
Apparently you guys arent visiting the sprint forums. I meant i had zero bars almost 90% of the time today. Do some research before you critize anyone. And no i dont hate the phone i just hate the issues.
If i hated it i wouldnt of published a theme for you guys.
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Definitely keeping mine, I'm very happy with it.

I personally think something fishy is going on with him. He mentioned countless times this was an upgrade and was still in his 30 day window until like June 8th or something. So why not return to get the upgrade back? I think he is just trolling and lying about all this. Another reason why he wouldn't show the phone having problems in his crappy video he made. He just would beat the bush and say he couldn't. lol

kiesow567 said:
You want a phone that will last but you are getting an Evo? I came from the Evo and it was, without a doubt, the buggiest phone I've ever had. It was also a battery hog. I don't think you will be pleased with it if you don't like the Nexus S.
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Yeah the evo at first had a ton of bugs but now with the latest cm7 it seemed to work fine for me. There are some bugs I'm sure but I have not run into them while using cm7 and evo.

fixxxer2008 said:
Apparently you guys arent visiting the sprint forums. I meant i had zero bars almost 90% of the time today. Do some research before you critize anyone.
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I call BS. I've been all over every forum regarding this issue and no one but you is claiming to be without a signal 90% of the time. Like I said, you are having a unique problem that might be solved by a hardware swap.

Sick of this!

Just been nosing on the ONE X forum since I'm thinking of jumping ship. They have YET another update? Where is the ONE S update to fix the pretty much crippling signal and jumping 3G HSDP+ issues or the soft reset when browsing the internet?
Sick of this phone and its lack of support from HTC on the MAO and software front...

Im with you !!
I love this phone, I aint gunna swap it, But i do wish HTC would play ball !!
Ive noticed various software bugs / glitches since owning this phone, I just wish they would bring out some updates, Then we can build some new ROMs with it

I contacted HTC yesterday and they said that an update is already coming..
A friend of mine owns an One X and since the 1.29 update he noticed no change so far but worse benchmark scores. We'll see if it has an impact on battery life at least.

azzledazzle said:
Im with you !!
I love this phone, I aint gunna swap it, But i do wish HTC would play ball !!
Ive noticed various software bugs / glitches since owning this phone, I just wish they would bring out some updates, Then we can build some new ROMs with it
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Fully agree with you.
Great phone but not that great QA and after-sales support...
I've also been in contact with them about 2 different issues which finally got escalated with a remark from the support: "it will take some time...".

I'm done, i'm ringing three at lunch and asking for a disconnection. I have 2 days left on my cooling off period and i'm far from cooled off. Might not even got for the ONE X if thats having issues as well..

Same here.
Seems to very little interest in this phone at all, nearly every forum regarding just this mobile have hardly any posts............
Shame as it is a great mobile and easily one of the best today.
All HTC's efforts are going towards the X, the S has it's fair share of problems as well (thankfully I don't have them *touch wood*) e.g. wifi and signal issues yet no word at all by HTC on an update fixing this afaik.....
Guess I will be rooting and flashing a custom ROM sooner than I thought, even though I really wasn't wanting to do this for quite a while and let alone even thinking that I would have to do it this soon..........
If HTC don't bother with this mobile at all and only deliver like 1-3 minor updates and don't give us the next big latest android version i.e. jellybean, then they can forget any future purchases of their products by me.

Seriously I am pissed of at the lack of interest from the community. I thought this would be one of the best phones on the market if not the best and would be really popular. And it got sweet reviews from nearly every website
I am totally surprised by the lack of enthusiasm thus far. I don't understand why.

Couldn't agree any more.
And I don't understand it either........

wilcoholic said:
Seriously I am pissed of at the lack of interest from the community. I thought this would be one of the best phones on the market if not the best and would be really popular. And it got sweet reviews from nearly every website
I am totally surprised by the lack of enthusiasm thus far. I don't understand why.
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Because a lot of people go along with the logic that having a quad core in their phone means they have a very large penis.

Still early days yet, I'm sure the dev scene will pick up in the not too distant future. Or you could learn yourself and become a dev instead of moaning (justsayin)
Also, I think the S is far less buggy and problematic than the X, hence why its getting more attention, not forgetting it is also their flagship...
Personally I haven't had any of the problems mentioned, apart from the MAO issue, on the two devices I have had.
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The signal issue is very strange, if I have internet and can teather my phone it will stay on most of the night surfing using my PC. As soon as I start to try and browse using the phone it cuts out.. The 3G and H indicators are constantly swapping.
I had an HTC Touch Diamond on O2 and that was the worst phone i've ever owned it even cost me a relationship due to it not hanging up when I told it to (thats another story). Was a little apprehensive on getting another HTC but I put my past experiences down to windows mobile. Now i'm not so sure. My girlfriend is always having problems with her HTC Sensation XE as well.

raikesy said:
Still early days yet, I'm sure the dev scene will pick up in the not too distant future. Or you could learn yourself and become a dev instead of moaning (justsayin)
Also, I think the S is far less buggy and problematic than the X, hence why its getting more attention, not forgetting it is also their flagship...
Personally I haven't had any of the problems mentioned, apart from the MAO issue, on the two devices I have had.
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I'm 100% certain that you've had the radio bug at the very least. It affects every single One S out there. It's not a crapshoot -- YOU HAVE IT, 100% guaranteed.
Do me a favor and try to do some Speed Tests. Notice that right in the middle of the test, it suddenly stops, then switches back to 3g, and then back to 4g, and etiher fails the test or ends up with an abysmal speed?

raikesy said:
Or you could learn yourself and become a dev instead of moaning (justsayin)
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Ok, I will just drop everything in my life and start to learn about coding, the ins and outs of android/sense and try to make a ROM and if it breaks people's one S mobiles then not my fault
No one is moaning, were just saying that we're surprised at how this phone isn't more popular with the developers.............
nickmv said:
I'm 100% certain that you've had the radio bug at the very least. It affects every single One S out there. It's not a crapshoot -- YOU HAVE IT, 100% guaranteed.
Do me a favor and try to do some Speed Tests. Notice that right in the middle of the test, it suddenly stops, then switches back to 3g, and then back to 4g, and etiher fails the test or ends up with an abysmal speed?
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I don't have it, just done what you said there and didn't have any of those problems. Constant H connection throughout.
Maybe I am effected in the sense, that I could get better speeds or a ping if they release a patch to fix/improve the signal?
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This is my first mobile with o2 in a long time, I can't try the SIM card out in any other phones as they are all locked to 3 network, so can't comment on how signal strength and mobile data speeds compare to other devices.

nickmv said:
I'm 100% certain that you've had the radio bug at the very least. It affects every single One S out there. It's not a crapshoot -- YOU HAVE IT, 100% guaranteed.
Do me a favor and try to do some Speed Tests. Notice that right in the middle of the test, it suddenly stops, then switches back to 3g, and then back to 4g, and etiher fails the test or ends up with an abysmal speed?
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Its crazy sometimes it does exactly as you describe sometimes it gets decent speeds. It always seems to work on my PC when tethered though..?
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Just done it, first time worked no problem.. 2nd time to get an average.. No ping no internet

mardon85 said:
Just been nosing on the ONE X forum since I'm thinking of jumping ship. They have YET another update? Where is the ONE S update to fix the pretty much crippling signal and jumping 3G HSDP+ issues or the soft reset when browsing the internet?
Sick of this phone and its lack of support from HTC on the MAO and software front...
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First world problems huh bro? Should be expected when you are an early adopter.

U guys *****y. Lol. I don't see problems here Wtf ....if u picky like u sound think twice on getting the X.
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jmercil said:
First world problems huh bro? Should be expected when you are an early adopter.
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Indeed. Awaiting my Beta Tester pay packet.

ajftl said:
U guys *****y. Lol. I don't see problems here Wtf ....if u picky like u sound think twice on getting the X.
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Thanks for your constructive post. If you have no problems then you have nothing to ***** about. If you did would you just leave it?? Doubt it..

I had the Sensation the day it came out and the forums were incredibly slow and no one seemed to have bought the phone for a couple months. I then switched to the amaze and same thing. As we know now those phones have pretty good dev support and users. Things are always slow at the start takes a few months for people to see the phone around and want it. Trust me on this...this phone will not disappoint in the end.

yeah, ^^ hes right... But im so impatient lol (who here isnt?)
I want the best and i want it now lol
But this phone has just become available worlwide,, Most people are tied into contracts, They dont have £500 spare to buy it..
And lets face it, the Sensation, Amaze, GS2 aint that old, and most people probably took out a 2yr contract on them..

Impressions of your Droid Charge/4G?

Looking for general/specific impressions of the phone. Hah a droid x/droid x2 for 1.5 years, recently got wet on vacation and screen light/touch screen went out (can still see with right light or flashlight but touch screen not working it's done). My upgrade is in late December but I really didn't want to take it anyway to keep my unlimited data on Verizon, which also is the only carrier with 4g in my area (att, sprint, Verizon). Looking on ebay phones (3g and 4g) are really expensive. I've found a decent amount of refurb, used charges for around $100.
I liked my X2 in theory but even with cyanomod 7 the cam was slow, occasional force closes, widgets became unresponsive etc. Took great pics though. First Moto phone and kind of thinking it should be my last. I figure it's time to go to 4g, keep my unlimited and go from there. Thanks and I look forward to your responses.

There are threads for this already. If you can't be bothered to search, then I'm just going to tell you getting this phone at this point is a bad idea.
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Tried didn't find anything discussing the phone, sorry about that. Specific reason? 4g phones are still fairly expensive but really looking to keep my unlimited

All of the later phones are way more powerful. It has to have the latest software version to run decent at all and it's even better to run Tweaked 3.0. If you root it and use the aforementioned rom it does just fine. Then be smart about using wifi and 4g and it gets pretty fair battery life.
The problem with it is it has way too little ram. It needs serious debloating to have any ram left over at all. I am happy with mine because I've done all the right things to make it a decent phone, You'd need to do some serious studying in this forum to get it to run good. If you like tinkering it's kinda fun. If you don't forget it.
Don't expect much more software development for it though. that's all pretty much gone. Don't expect ICS or anything later cause it has too little system memory for ICS plus Touchwiz.

stueycaster said:
All of the later phones are way more powerful. It has to have the latest software version to run decent at all and it's even better to run Tweaked 3.0. If you root it and use the aforementioned rom it does just fine. Then be smart about using wifi and 4g and it gets pretty fair battery life.
The problem with it is it has way too little ram. It needs serious debloating to have any ram left over at all. I am happy with mine because I've done all the right things to make it a decent phone, You'd need to do some serious studying in this forum to get it to run good. If you like tinkering it's kinda fun. If you don't forget it.
Don't expect much more software development for it though. that's all pretty much gone. Don't expect ICS or anything later cause it has too little system memory for ICS plus Touchwiz.
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Ok sounds good, I appreciate that. Just kind of tight right now after a surgery and holidays coming up or I'd buy a nicer phone. Guess I could just go with a 3g again but noticed that the droid x2 which I had is just as expensive on ebay as the charge by 15-20 bucks. I didn't mind the x2 but Moto is a pain even after installing cm7. Any recs on another 4g phone ? Plenty of Thunderbolts too but it seems that phone is also very old.

thechaoz said:
Ok sounds good, I appreciate that. Just kind of tight right now after a surgery and holidays coming up or I'd buy a nicer phone. Guess I could just go with a 3g again but noticed that the droid x2 which I had is just as expensive on ebay as the charge by 15-20 bucks. I didn't mind the x2 but Moto is a pain even after installing cm7. Any recs on another 4g phone ? Plenty of Thunderbolts too but it seems that phone is also very old.
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All I know about the Thunderbolt is it is famous for using battery fast. There might be custom software that remedies that. Check the T-Bolt forums. The LG Revolution has a washed out looking display compared to the Charge.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Charge has a great display. That's it's best feature. Video looks great. Colors tend to be slightly over saturated but it can be read in direct sunlight.

You should really check out the nexus or the bionic. They are the 2nd gen lte phones (I consider bionic as 2nd gen since it was originally going to be vzws first lte but it had to be redone) which are much much better than tbolt/charge/revo. I know you don't like the x2 but it is a really big flop of a phone for motorola, and the bionic should be much better. If you can spare the money then I would go for nexus, though.

Thanks for the input guys, grinding on ebay. I appreciate all the input

thechaoz said:
Thanks for the input guys, grinding on ebay. I appreciate all the input
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No ebay. Swappa.

don't mean to muddy your decision process, but Dwith's Tweaked ROM has really made this phone enjoyable. combine that with some Jelly Bean themes that Blackness did, and you'll fall in love.
my lone concern with this phone is battery life - but after installing Juice Defender, I can go a full day in between charges.
the major downside is that due to lack of power, this phone will never see a fully functional ICS/JB ROM. but Dwith has made this one really great.

How is this battery life for you?
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Antoneus1231 said:
How is this battery life for you?
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For me, much much worse than that.

That's pretty impressive. Looks like your screen was mostly off though.

Antoneus1231 said:
How is this battery life for you?
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were you using Juice Defender?
got similar results yesterday....

jco23 said:
were you using Juice Defender?
got similar results yesterday....
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Doesn't Juice Defender hurt more than help?
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chefthomas99 said:
Doesn't Juice Defender hurt more than help?
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thought so initially - but that was before I was edumacated on how android devices work.
now that I understand it, I customized the app to my liking. and thus, I have significantly increased battery life (still would rather not have to, but it works for now)
remember, the app is free (paid versions offer more options - but I don't think I need those options).
essentially, the app recognizes that the biggest drainer on battery is mobile data. so, it cuts off mobile data when you are not using it (and you can schedule cycles periodically so you won't miss notifications).
what's new about it (from when I first tried it some 12+ months ago), is that my concern was that if I lost my phone, I would not be able to find it with the lookout app (needs mobile data). now, JD allows you to disable itself via text message. so if I lose my phone, I'll simply send a text to my phone from my google account (or someone elses phone) with a password, and then my mobile data is back on, and then I can use lookout to find out (lookout also automatically sends out a signal when your battery gets below 2% so that you can find your phone if it is ever lost and loses power).

jco23 said:
thought so initially - but that was before I was edumacated on how android devices work.
now that I understand it, I customized the app to my liking. and thus, I have significantly increased battery life (still would rather not have to, but it works for now)
remember, the app is free (paid versions offer more options - but I don't think I need those options).
essentially, the app recognizes that the biggest drainer on battery is mobile data. so, it cuts off mobile data when you are not using it (and you can schedule cycles periodically so you won't miss notifications).
what's new about it (from when I first tried it some 12+ months ago), is that my concern was that if I lost my phone, I would not be able to find it with the lookout app (needs mobile data). now, JD allows you to disable itself via text message. so if I lose my phone, I'll simply send a text to my phone from my google account (or someone elses phone) with a password, and then my mobile data is back on, and then I can use lookout to find out (lookout also automatically sends out a signal when your battery gets below 2% so that you can find your phone if it is ever lost and loses power).
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Ok ill bite. What are your settings in general?
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chefthomas99 said:
Ok ill bite. What are your settings in general?
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controls: Data, Autosync (Ping)
schedules: 30m
triggers: battery 15%, screen, traffic 10kb/15s, 15s min
notification: text (hide status bar icon) - this is important so that the android auto task killer does not kill JD
essentially, I have it set so that whenever I unlock the screen, mobile data automatically turns on (if there is no wifi connection).
with these settings (coupled by me editing the build.prop wifi scan interval to 1800), I leave mobile data,wifi, and bluetooth on all the time. I never need to manually switch them. this is as seamless as it gets for me.

Ok Awesome guys so I just got in in the mail. Like new for $65.00 off ebay (used a sniping sight late at night . Anyway I've never done scripts but did install cm7 etc on my X2 with no problem. I'm running to store to get sim card. I'm not worried about ICS/the latest greatest just a well running phone and battery life is important to me as I sync emails and am on the go. I'm used to having to charge and always by default just throw it on in the car, at work etc.
What do you think it the best ROM/scripts/tweaks/etc to use maximize the potential of the phone. Thanks in advance.

jco23 said:
don't mean to muddy your decision process, but Dwith's Tweaked ROM has really made this phone enjoyable. combine that with some Jelly Bean themes that Blackness did, and you'll fall in love.
my lone concern with this phone is battery life - but after installing Juice Defender, I can go a full day in between charges.
the major downside is that due to lack of power, this phone will never see a fully functional ICS/JB ROM. but Dwith has made this one really great.
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stueycaster said:
All of the later phones are way more powerful. It has to have the latest software version to run decent at all and it's even better to run Tweaked 3.0. If you root it and use the aforementioned rom it does just fine. Then be smart about using wifi and 4g and it gets pretty fair battery life.
The problem with it is it has way too little ram. It needs serious debloating to have any ram left over at all. I am happy with mine because I've done all the right things to make it a decent phone, You'd need to do some serious studying in this forum to get it to run good. If you like tinkering it's kinda fun. If you don't forget it.
Don't expect much more software development for it though. that's all pretty much gone. Don't expect ICS or anything later cause it has too little system memory for ICS plus Touchwiz.
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jco23 said:
controls: Data, Autosync (Ping)
schedules: 30m
triggers: battery 15%, screen, traffic 10kb/15s, 15s min
notification: text (hide status bar icon) - this is important so that the android auto task killer does not kill JD
essentially, I have it set so that whenever I unlock the screen, mobile data automatically turns on (if there is no wifi connection).
with these settings (coupled by me editing the build.prop wifi scan interval to 1800), I leave mobile data,wifi, and bluetooth on all the time. I never need to manually switch them. this is as seamless as it gets for me.
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Noted. I will look into it. Any other options are additional input. Looks like a fun phone, can't wait to play with it especially after almost two years of droid X/X2. Got 4G and get to keep my unlimited. woohoo. lol