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gps fix by end of sept and froyo in few days to months

Just got off the phone with samsung. Tech support said gps fix for sure by end of sept. And froyo as soon as a few days to no more than few months. Also the update will come straight from them no att involved. Sept. 21

Fro-noes!!

Froyo update. As soon as a few days to no later then a few months. Thats like me saying, Yeah........Ill get back to you Mr. President. Within a few days, but no later then 4 years when your run is over with. Garenteed!

Every time someone calls Samsung or walks into an AT&T store and asks about fixes and updates, we get a slightly different answer. A dozen calls will yield a dozen different answers. The reality is that none of the people you can get to through the normal channels will know diddly squat about the actual release schedules. If we're lucky, the better than average rep/support tech will hear something about it a few days before it happens at best.
To get the real schedule, we need inside information. We need a Deep Throat! Someone on the test team at AT&T and someone on the dev/QA team at Samsung.

ianwood said:
To get the real schedule, we need inside information. We need a Deep Throat! Someone on the test team at AT&T and someone on the dev/QA team at Samsung.
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What if the dev/QA team at Samsung/ATT doesn't even have a schedule yet? This may sounds crazy but it is possible.
Remember that Galaxy S UK announced their Froyo update schedule 3 months ago. US division, on the other hand, still hasn't announced anything. Is it reasonable to assume the wait for Froyo update will be at least another 3 months?

ayoung614 said:
Just got off the phone with samsung. Tech support said gps fix for sure by end of sept. And froyo as soon as a few days to no more than few months. Also the update will come straight from them no att involved. Sept. 21
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I have been checking the Samsung site nearly daily for a week or so because their tech support also told me it would be available on their support site. However the last few days my bookmarked page is 404 and drilling down through the web site comes up dry also on downloadable Captivates stuff.

mwxiao said:
What if the dev/QA team at Samsung/ATT doesn't even have a schedule yet? This may sounds crazy but it is possible.
Remember that Galaxy S UK announced their Froyo update schedule 3 months ago. US division, on the other hand, still hasn't announced anything. Is it reasonable to assume the wait for Froyo update will be at least another 3 months?
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In all likelihood, it is part of their deal with AT&T to supply certain updates within certain time frames -- standard practice. It will also need to be factored into Sammy's development schedule as it sounds like their devs are going to be quite busy with different Galaxy S updates. There's probably only a couple dozen people who actually know first-hand what those dates are.

Few months...sounds like next year to me. Hopefully not, I really want Froyo on it.

whats the huge advantage of having 2.2? really whats so big about it

How many times are we going to have this same thread with the same responses and questions???
Ill believe a GPS fix when we have it, not a second before
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AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
How many times are we going to have this same thread with the same responses and questions???
Ill believe a GPS fix when we have it, not a second before
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OMG I'm currently downloading something from the update menu in the phone.
Update: OMG It just finished the download and is 50% through the update.
Update: OMG it went to 100% and said "update is failed." Is this because I'm rooted?
Update: Unrooted to try again and it don't let me re-update. The "check once/24hrs" deal is bull**** yO` Screw you ATT

Samsung Finally Announces Froyo Upgrades for Galaxy S

Saw this on Engaget today Samsung has finally announced the official Froyo rollout.
It will start in the UK in early Nov and all carriers updated by the end of Nov was the official press release from Sammy.
Cross your fingers..... Maybe the release of the code will speed up some Captivate dev.

We can only hope

September, then October, now November...Let me guess...December is next?

Looking back over it, the press release reads like it's only going to cover the UK. WTF?
It also says that their pulling the rollouts they did in the Nordic countries because things were jacked up. Curious. Samsung sucks.

jbright44 said:
Looking back over it, the press release reads like it's only going to cover the UK. WTF?.
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Because it is only a press release from Samsung UK division. They can't speak for other regions.
Samsung US said nothing and that probably means Nov. 2012 for us.

Beat me to the punch. You can read more here on Endgadget.
And the You Mobile Link as to why it was pulled in Scandanavian land too.
Pretty much I'm ok with a later November release if Samsung actually fixes the lag/bugs reported in that article.
jbright44 said:
Looking back over it, the press release reads like it's only going to cover the UK. WTF?
It also says that their pulling the rollouts they did in the Nordic countries because things were jacked up. Curious. Samsung sucks.
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If you read the article a little more closely - Endgadget states that it will roll in the beginning of November for the UK - then start rolling out at the end of November to the rest of the world (a.k.a. us).
So - my assumption was correct we should see it around Christmas!

Lol I might as well load a custom rom now or wait til someone creates a custom rom based off 2.2 for the I9000. that might take awhile for the epic though, probably quicker than a official ota release from samsung.
Going on 2months with my epic now, wishing HTC or Moto would have given me a sprint andriod device with a keyboard. Typing this would have been annoying without one.
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my guess would be last week in December. Merry Christmas to all

Cognition ftw.
Don't know if i'll get another samsung phone when my contract is up.

avgjoegeek said:
If you read the article a little more closely - Endgadget states that it will roll in the beginning of November for the UK - then start rolling out at the end of November to the rest of the world (a.k.a. us).
So - my assumption was correct we should see it around Christmas!
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If you read the official press release, there is no mention of anything outside of UK. As usual, Engadget injected its own opinion based on mis-reading of the press release.
The press release only mentioned all carriers, inside UK, will get the release by the end of Nov.

foxbat121 said:
If you read the official press release, there is no mention of anything outside of UK. As usual, Engadget injected its own opinion based on mis-reading of the press release.
The press release only mentioned all carriers, inside UK, will get the release by the end of Nov.
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I'm guessing though this will likely affect every market

SkitchBeatz said:
I'm guessing though this will likely affect every market
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Yes it will. But it doesn't mean we will see it here in US by the end of Nov. 2010.

Regarding Froyo on US carriers: Samsung USA is saying:
@SamsungMobileUS Re: Froyo release in November statement came from SamsungUK. Froyo for US SGS will be avail this year http://ow.ly/2Xce8
So if it's not November, that only leaves December...

As it stands my personal opinion is that US carriers would start rolling it out at the beginning of the new year.
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SkitchBeatz said:
Cognition ftw.
Don't know if i'll get another samsung phone when my contract is up.
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That's how I feel. I had an iphone for 2.5 years and absolutely loved it. It worked flawlessly. I had it jailbroken so I could customize the crap out of it with winterboard and run all the unapproved apps in cydia. But, me being me, I was a little bored and just wanted something differentso I sprang for a Captivate. Its a decent enough phone, but I'll never get another samjunk phone again, they are just crap with software updates. I'm not even sure I'll ever get another android phone. It's not nearly as open as everyone wants to believe. Here it's been several months and there's no custom roms out for it yet. I wouldnt especially call cognition too custom, its a stock samsung rom that's had some tweaks done to it. I'm stuck with this phone for 21 more months until my contract is up, I hate to have to spend $500-600 for another phone off contract. I'm really hoping samsung gets their act together because 21 months is a long ways to go. And it appears that handset makers are doing their best to really lock the phones down. The motos now have e-fuse, the new G2 is even worse. You can only temporarily root it, when you reboot it, it loads the OS back from a hidden partition so its like it was new. The only truly open phone is the N1.

I probably am in the minority here..but oh well..won't be the first time.
I would rather have something work than not. Since my Captivate works great..I can patiently wait till FroYo is released here especially if they are going to make sure it is done right this time. December isn't that far off,and I am sure it will be December possibly January before it is rolled out in the US for the Captivate..
I think many need to chill out and take the wait & see attitude. Let the other carriers get it first,that way most of the bugs will be worked out or at least known so we can see what is already wrong if anything before we install it.
Hell..the trend is never going to change for the manufactures to defeat what the developers cook up.If they can lock the phones down and force us to all have Iphones..then that is what they are going to do. I blame Steve Jobs at Apple for this and his strangle hold on AT&T..and I honestly think it is going to get worse...So..I see the other US carriers getting it before AT&T and releasing it.
I've learned from the school of Hard Knocks never to rush out and get the latest & greatest new thing anymore when it first hits the shelves..since almost every manufacturer is using it's customer based as BETA testers..
I know with every release elsewhere..it just gives the developers time and more code to use to build really good stable roms..not just patches and have them work greater than they already do.The Cappy has only been out for 3-4 months..give them all time..to get it right..
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foxbat121 said:
If you read the official press release, there is no mention of anything outside of UK. As usual, Engadget injected its own opinion based on mis-reading of the press release.
The press release only mentioned all carriers, inside UK, will get the release by the end of Nov.
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I keep going both ways on this. Yes Engadget read more into it. The press release is vague though:
The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November.
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The way i read it is, that it is being tested in the UK Now, and will be available early November - all UK operators should be done by the end of November. It seems very UK centric.
I think we need to wait for separate carrier announcements in the US - the phones are different enough that each carrier will have their own schedule.
EDIT Samsung Twitter site confirmed this statement is UK only. They reference July quote that all US Samsung Galaxy S phones will get Froyo "This year".

derek4484 said:
The only truly open phone is the N1.
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So your choices are go back to iPhone, spend the dough for an AT&T N1, or keep your Samsung and ***** for another 21 mos.?
Who knows though? Maybe Samsung will release the 2.2 OTA and get it right?

Whether they release the upgrade in a month, two months, or three months - in the big scheme of things what's the difference? We've lived our lives for this long without Froyo, so big deal if it's delayed beyond whatever expectations have been created.
Furthermore, people who believe that Froyo will be bug-free and will be a remedy for all ills afflicting the Captivate are kidding themselves. Perfection (or even that which is close to perfection) is ever-elusive.

I don't know what people ***** so bad about this. There is a leaked froyo rom, PUT IT ON YOUR PHONE. Also why do you want them to rush some buggy crap? Let them do there thing. You have a Froyo rom, so just wait till they iron out all the kinks and let them give us a solid Froyo rom.

Just throwing in my 2 sence about the update to 2.2

I have email both Samsung and ATT along with live chatin with both also. Email responces for both Samsung and ATT have been the same both times to an extent. What i did learn was with the live chat. ATT's live chat although pretty much the same as the email. The tec i talked to couldn't tell me when but he did shead some light on something which i didn't know. According to the tec ATT really doesn't have anything to do with the release and update. Here i thought from everything i have been reading it's been ATT draging their feet thats not the case. So Got a responce from Samsung asking pretty much the same thing i did in the ATT email. Asked when the 2.2 android update would be out. Coarse got back the same as i normaly did stating their working on bringing the best experence with the upgrade and download that they can. So it's coming. What i also did was added how the ATT tec said ATT doesn't have anything to do with the release and when it will be out. Samsung didn't correct me about this. So send all emails to Samsung maybe they will get tired of all the questions and be able to give us a time frame.

The response you got from Samsung is the same they have been throwing out for months. The AT&T reps are trained to always say it is not their fault.
Think what you want, but Samsung passed Froyo build to AT&T a while back, and AT&T is sitting on it. We have a Beta from October to prove that - it has all the ATT&T bloatware.
Unless you talk to a manager that knows about software releases (not a customer service person) you will only get canned responses.

Like every topic of this nature that has been posted and what the person above me said most of the people you talk to make it up as they go. At&t us the culprit behind the laggy release but of course they will tell you otherwise. What is the difference between a rogers and att phone that makes it samsungs fault?
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MagillaGorillaX said:
I have email both Samsung and ATT along with live chatin with both also. Email responces for both Samsung and ATT have been the same both times to an extent. What i did learn was with the live chat. ATT's live chat although pretty much the same as the email. The tec i talked to couldn't tell me when but he did shead some light on something which i didn't know. According to the tec ATT really doesn't have anything to do with the release and update. Here i thought from everything i have been reading it's been ATT draging their feet thats not the case. So Got a responce from Samsung asking pretty much the same thing i did in the ATT email. Asked when the 2.2 android update would be out. Coarse got back the same as i normaly did stating their working on bringing the best experence with the upgrade and download that they can. So it's coming. What i also did was added how the ATT tec said ATT doesn't have anything to do with the release and when it will be out. Samsung didn't correct me about this. So send all emails to Samsung maybe they will get tired of all the questions and be able to give us a time frame.
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Process =
1. Samsung readies firmware and gives to the carrier. ATT likely has had the firmware in hand since late November (the same time samsung gave it to T-mobile).
2. generally takes carrier 2-3 months to customize the firmware/test/lockdown features/install their bloatware etc. ATT definitely holding it back at this point but i think it will arrive sooner rather than later. I would say Verizon and ATT both got their firmware at same time as t-mobile they have just taken longer to finalize the update for the push. In ATT's case i would suggest it all hinges on them trying to lockdown the native MobileAP feature so you have to use their App with paid tethering.

2 cents.
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Seriously. What's not unhelpful is out of date.
IT is getting increasingly galling at this point. I love how when you write to Samsung and ask, they say they can't provide an answer because it would lead to speculation and inaccurate information. But of course it's exactly yhe opposite that is actually true...
There is zero point to speculating/complaining about the lack of an official Froyo update. I'm not saying I don't sympathize, just that it's non-productive.

Samsung won't speculate because AT&T is sitting on this... here is more proof:
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...ncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115196&isSrch=Yes
The title says it all "Send, Receive, or Delete a Picture, Audio or Video Message (MMS) with the Samsung Captivate (i897) with Android 2.2"
And Samsung's tweets to me confirm it... when pressed - they specifically said 2.2 had not been released to "Captivate Users".
I have always maintained that AT&T is sitting on the release. Why, I am not sure, but the fact that numerous support pages reference 2.2 indicates that they geared up to push it out a while ago - that means stable builds have been available or they would not have made support pages that have very specific screen shots.

Why is the G2x still out of stock on T-Mobile.com?

It's time for T-Mobile and LG to come clean on why the G2x is still “temporarily” out of stock on T-Mobile’s website.
We first heard from readers on May 20th that the G2x was pulled from T-Mobile.com, though existing customers were still able to upgrade to the device. We ran our original story on May 25th with a rumor that the G2x may have been pulled for quality control issues, issues several of you reported experiencing, lending some plausibility to the rumor.
T-Mobile quickly caught wind of our and other stories on the G2x, and quickly attempted, via Twitter, to squash those rumors with an official statement, which was confirmed to Android and Me by a T-Mobile insider.
The T-Mobile G2x with Google has been a highly popular device with both customers and employees since its launch last month, and high demand has resulted in inventory constraints, which we are working with LG to address.
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It’s been nearly a full month since the G2x was initially taken down from Tmobile.com, leading us to believe our initial reports that the G2x was pulled for reasons other than a stock shortage. Could it really take LG this long to manufacture enough devices to replenish T-Mobile’s supply?
The Rumors
We’ve reached out to numerous T-Mobile and LG insiders for comment, and have received three different potential reasons for why the G2x is still unavailable:
The reason the G2x is out of stock is simply a supply issue.
T-Mobile is unwilling to put the G2x back on the market until LG is able to push out an update to resolve the various quality issues that have plagued the G2x since launch.
T-Mobile is unwilling to put the G2x back on the market until LG has completed the expected Gingerbread update.
One Android Insider’s Take on the Rumors
At this point, it’s been almost a month since the G2x was taken off the market, leaving it highly unlikely that it is truly out of stock. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a supply shortage take this long to be resolved.
Similarly, if the G2x was pulled because T-Mobile is waiting for LG to put the finishing touches on the Gingerbread update, this would be the first time a carrier has pulled a phone off the market until it received an Android OS version update.
This leaves us with the most plausible of the rumors; that the G2x was pulled for quality control issues, which we suggested back at the end of May. In our book, this is the most likely of the given rumors, though without official word from T-Mo or LG, it’s anybody’s guess at this point.
Final Word
T-Mobile and LG have been way too quiet on this issue for our liking, and Android and Me feels it’s time for them to come clean as to why this device was pulled in the first place. I think the community will be much more willing to accept the move if they would just come clean rather than continue to harp on about supply shortages.
What say you, readers? Why do you think the G2x was pulled? Should LG and T-Mobile come clean on this?
http://androidandme.com/2011/06/car...s-the-g2x-still-out-of-stock-on-t-mobile-com/
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I agree ..
And another. This update people are waiting on will never be here this month...
If anyone is waiting, listen to me.. July 15th is earliest.

smashpunks said:
I agree ..
And another. This update people are waiting on will never be here this month...
If anyone is waiting, listen to me.. July 15th is earliest.
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yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk

Something else to think about, there's been no supply constraints with the O2X and its the same phone with different software.

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yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk
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Yep, everywhere around me has plenty in stock......
There fixing issues and releasing gingerbread. Still gonna be a while though....
Just need cm7 to fix their battery and I'm noteven thinking about stock gb.

sarni84 said:
yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk
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I went to a big TMO store here in Los Angeles today and they had no G2x's in stock and said they didn't have an ETA on new ones.

BarryH_GEG said:
Something else to think about, there's been no supply constraints with the O2X and its the same phone with different software.
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LG should have just offered one universal software version. It's tough enough troubleshooting one let alone two different setups.

ICS future for the Atrix 2 gloomy?

Talked with a Motorola rep via support webchat who said that they "don't know" if an update for ICS will come to this phone. This is highly disappointing. Does anybody have any other information? I am considering returning it if they back out on it (as I am still within the return period). Maybe AT&T has a better answer?

toastthemost said:
Talked with a Motorola rep via support webchat who said that they "don't know" if an update for ICS will come to this phone. This is highly disappointing. Does anybody have any other information? I am considering returning it if they back out on it (as I am still within the return period). Maybe AT&T has a better answer?
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Unfortunately no AT&T does not have a better answer, actually it is worse. I got the "We are working very hard to have ICS ready for all phones that have the capability, and we don't have any dates to reveal for any phones upgrade to ICS". I then also got the "We have 4 phones getting ready to be released in the next 60 days that will have ICS already on them".
I also asked around at corporate, and I can not get any of the people I work with there to give my any information at all on ICS one way or the other, for any phone.
Don't worry though ports are on the way, I know that both lfaber06 and I will be working to get a real port of it over ASAP. In fact he has a true pre-alpha version already posted this morning.
Jim

Major bummer, considering this phone is only about 2 months old. Either way, I love the phone and I'm keeping it for as long as its functional!
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Major bummer, considering this phone is only about 2 months old. Either way, I love the phone and I'm keeping it for as long as its functional!
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Same here, its a solid phone.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
Same here, its a solid phone.
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I just think it's too "plastic" (while it's still ... a kind of solid)...

If you think this phone is too plasticy...then your best bet would be an HTC phone. I think the Atrix 2 is very solid feeling.

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Talked with a Motorola rep via support webchat who said that they "don't know" if an update for ICS will come to this phone. This is highly disappointing. Does anybody have any other information? I am considering returning it if they back out on it (as I am still within the return period). Maybe AT&T has a better answer?
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Ok lets see if I have this straight
You want to return the Atrix 2 when they don't even have the ICS update for the Motorola Razor yet and it's guaranteed? Me, I'm waiting for the Atrix 2 and here is why.
Google states that phones that run 2.3 can run ICS and it's up to the manufacturer to push the upgrades out. What manufacturer is going to push the hardest to get their handsets running ICS
Motorola/Google hands down

Clovett said:
Ok lets see if I have this straight
You want to return the Atrix 2 when they don't even have the ICS update for the Motorola Razor yet and it's guaranteed? Me, I'm waiting for the Atrix 2 and here is why.
Google states that phones that run 2.3 can run ICS and it's up to the manufacturer to push the upgrades out. What manufacturer is going to push the hardest to get their handsets running ICS
Motorola/Google hands down
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Not so fast there.... you are forgetting AT&T is the carrier, and they HAVE to do the actual ROM build, MOTO will give them all of the needed firmware and drivers and such, but it is AT&T who actually does the final build and approval for the releases, what we get off the MOT dev sites, actually is a joint effort from both Moto and AT&T.
I have direct information that if the Atrix 2 gets an ICS build, and IF is the word here, it will not be right away.
Why? You will most likely ask. It is becuase they (Moto and AT&T) are more interested in "Selling" you another more expensive phone, with ICS already on it. Both MOTO and AT&T don't get anything by releasing a new version of the OS to your phone. Just because a Phone can run it, does not mean that they will make it happen. Don't wait for something that might or might not come. If that is the attitude then go get a phone that already has ICS on it, you will be much happier.
I have information that IF, this comes out it will be after June most likely, April or may possibly. This last sentence is unofficial information, the official info I got from my client is posted in the second post here.
Jim

jimbridgman said:
Not so fast there.... you are forgetting AT&T is the carrier, and they HAVE to do the actual ROM build, MOTO will give them all of the needed firmware and drivers and such, but it is AT&T who actually does the final build and approval for the releases, what we get off the MOT dev sites, actually is a joint effort from both Moto and AT&T.
I have direct information that if the Atrix 2 gets an ICS build, and IF is the word here, it will not be right away.
Why? You will most likely ask. It is becuase they (Moto and AT&T) are more interested in "Selling" you another more expensive phone, with ICS already on it. Both MOTO and AT&T don't get anything by releasing a new version of the OS to your phone. Just because a Phone can run it, does not mean that they will make it happen. Don't wait for something that might or might not come. If that is the attitude then go get a phone that already has ICS on it, you will be much happier.
I have information that IF, this comes out it will be after June most likely, April or may possibly. This last sentence is unofficial information, the official info I got from my client is posted in the second post here.
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I agree completely on the time frame. However unlike other releases this one is different for Google. They will press extremely hard and bend over backwards to help update every phone in the field they can. The why is extremely easy
This ICS build will allow Google to build for their tablet platform AND the phone platform. The more phones they convert the larger the base to attract developers. This is the first shot they have had to have a single operating system. If they update every phone that can run ICS in about a year most phones current in the lineup and still in the field will be running ICS. Most tablets will be running ICS. As for the carriers they will leap on board since Google is going to be doing the work for them. The more phones on one platform the easier it will be to support. It's truly a win/win

^ Grabs popcorn
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If Atrix 2 does get ICS, it will be a very long time before that happens, Motorola hasnt even released an update to 2.3 to fix all the damn bugs on the phone. Atrix 2 is the red headed step child.

Red-heads rock ... FYI ...

assuming the carpet matches the drapes
off-topic apologies... back to maintaining positive ICS thoughts...
From what I have read..it would seem that perhaps manufacturers and the "almighty goog" are fighting over device disk space with their proprietary interface bloatware and OS upgrades as well...hence the perpetual speak of "fragmentation" as well... too many differences and no commonality. To someone else's point, hopefully ICS can bring a closer point of unification.

shanghei said:
If Atrix 2 does get ICS, it will be a very long time before that happens, Motorola hasnt even released an update to 2.3 to fix all the damn bugs on the phone. Atrix 2 is the red headed step child.
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Interesting point well taken, but I'd have to as you this
Assuming you are the CEO of a carrier and you are presented with two paths and only have the time to pursue one course of action.
A) Put your programmers on fixing the current system and take them off upgrading as many phones as possible to ICS, even though the bugs with the phone are minor and don't impede actually using it as a phone.
B) Concentrate on moving forward with one platform so you can decrease support costs overall and get a big fat bonus
chose

shanghei said:
If Atrix 2 does get ICS, it will be a very long time before that happens, Motorola hasnt even released an update to 2.3 to fix all the damn bugs on the phone. Atrix 2 is the red headed step child.
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Long time or not, as long as it comes before my contract renewal date, I'll be happy
Considering this phone came out about two months ago, I will go ahead and assume that most of us just renewed our at&t contracts to get it... I will also assume that most of us have about two years before we can renew our phones so basically, there's no rush guys lol
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The biggest problem I see is that Google is in the process of buying Motorola. The issue is that during such buyouts, there are a lot of movement of people who work there. Usually a lot of instability, layoffs and/or management changes happen during this period. The end result will be that the Atrix 2 will be caught in the shuffle and so I don’t have know if ICS will ever come to this device. Motorola doesn’t even seem to care to address the many bugs as it is with this phone, much less care about ICS.

Clovett said:
Interesting point well taken, but I'd have to as you this
Assuming you are the CEO of a carrier and you are presented with two paths and only have the time to pursue one course of action.
A) Put your programmers on fixing the current system and take them off upgrading as many phones as possible to ICS, even though the bugs with the phone are minor and don't impede actually using it as a phone.
B) Concentrate on moving forward with one platform so you can decrease support costs overall and get a big fat bonus
chose
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It all depends on LOE. If the LOE is less than the cost to implement with newer handsets, then it will happen. If the LOE is more than the cost to implement ICS with all new phones, then it will not happen. Look AT&T has 4 different versions of the Iphone that all can run 5 different versions of IOS, and there is not a way to FORCE anyone on an older Iphone to upgrade, becuase there was not OTA until IOS 5.
Support is not a big issue for the carriers, because they really don't support the devices the manufactures do.
You need think way higher than just google and android in this equation and the fact that AT&T still has to support ANY handset (on their network) that has been sold through AT&T or Cingular since 3g rolled out. There are guys at corporate AT&T that still carry the first HTC Tytn phone (the first 3g phone on cingular / AT&T), because it was a beast for the time, and since it is still 3g, and works, AT&T has to provide support for it. Now are there updates from AT&T or HTC, no, but that is why this community is here. Those guys are all running some form of windows mobile 6 on it, so is it the latest, no, does it do the job, yes.
Again ICS might or might not come (at this point the LOE says no, most likely not), I can't spell it out for you any clearer than that or I will no longer have my current customer. I have way more information than I am letting on, that I can not release at this time.

Motorola has issued very few statements about devices that will be on the upgrade path to ICS and the ones that were stated are on Verizen and they havnt even been given a specific date as to when to expect the update.
AT&T has a very good record at getting updated to their devices and doing it in a timely manner compared to the other carriers. Look at the phones on Verizen and tell me how many are up to date and running Gingerbread 2.3.5 or higher, very few. Heck their famed Thunderbolt is still trying to get the Gingerbread update going. The OG Atrix recieved the Gingerbread update before 90% of all other phones had.
Im not confirming nor denying that we will get it but we have a very good chance considering AT&T's track record even though they are being tight lipped about things and I personally think we will. But hey I have been proven to be wrong also
So if Jim says May - mid summer I say that is acceptible in my books. Has anyone seen a PROVEN date as to the other devices yet? NO. We all just have to be patient and see how the events play out. Hope everyone has a good day!

JRW 28 said:
Motorola has issued very few statements about devices that will be on the upgrade path to ICS and the ones that were stated are on Verizen and they havnt even been given a specific date as to when to expect the update.
AT&T has a very good record at getting updated to their devices and doing it in a timely manner compared to the other carriers. Look at the phones on Verizen and tell me how many are up to date and running Gingerbread 2.3.5 or higher, very few. Heck their famed Thunderbolt is still trying to get the Gingerbread update going. The OG Atrix recieved the Gingerbread update before 90% of all other phones had.
Im not confirming nor denying that we will get it but we have a very good chance considering AT&T's track record even though they are being tight lipped about things and I personally think we will. But hey I have been proven to be wrong also
So if Jim says May - mid summer I say that is acceptible in my books. Has anyone seen a PROVEN date as to the other devices yet? NO. We all just have to be patient and see how the events play out. Hope everyone has a good day!
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That is exactly what I have been trying to get across, Thanks! I also want to note that the carriers are not the ones that really care about which OS a phone is on or if it is up to date, just that it does not harm their network.
AT&T is really trying to get phones updated as soon as they can, if it is a feasible LOE. And they do have a good track record of doing so.

mathk said:
I just think it's too "plastic" (while it's still ... a kind of solid)...
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I want to know what everybody does with there phone's that it has to be built like a tank. The A2 seems pretty tough. The only phone I ever had that died was because my dog got it.
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