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All in one guide for SPEED - BATTERY - APPS FOR all HTC

Well friends, after going through small and scattered threads, I have decided to make a step by step guide for all HTC owners to get around simple problems on phone and battery issues.​
Introduction
Usually when you start your new android phone for the first time we all go through the setup screens. Here is what to do.
1. During initial setup please do not enter or enroll any accounts settings, not even Google setup.
2. Let the setup complete and bring you back to the main screen.
3. Disable the option where it says “backup my data with Google”. Because of so many back up apps, you really do not want to use this because every time it will restore all your old backed up items, even though you previously got rid of some.
4. Go to settings and first thing all must do is re-calibrate the keyboard as all have a different finger sizes and all have a unique way of using the screen this will ensure erratic screen behavior.
5. Go to applications and select UNKNOWN SOURCE and under privacy tab unselect back up my settings and restore tab.
6. Go to A/C and settings and enroll the accounts you want.
7. You will have a clean and smooth setup.
App Storage
1. With coming of android 2.3.3 many users are facing a peculiar problem of icons on screen not refreshing to their icons after restart.
2. Most recent apps are written for Froyo (Android 2.2). They run in compatibility mode also giving screen resolution problem in devices having res more than standard 400 x 800. This is not the phone related problem its app related issue which I will address shortly.
3. All smartphones today have ample amount of onboard storage, till the time the above issue is resolved it is wise to keep the apps on internal memory only.
4. Apps stored on internal memory load and work faster compared to those on SD-card, merely because of access times.
Battery Calibration
1. Because the devices and batteries are manufactured in bulk, as well shipping delay and unusual warehouse storage times, all batteries degrade a little in terms of charging cycle.
2. When you receive a new unit make sure before you start it up for the first time, that you plug it in to a power source and let it charge. This will ensure two concerns, firstly; it will recharge the battery up to max 80% because of first time charge which will slowly increase to full potential after use. Secondly; it will make sure that the device is functioning properly with the supplied battery.
3. Go to settings and then go to wireless networks > mobile networks. Disable "always on mobile data" this is enabled by default.
4. You will notice two options in network mode, use WCDMA only if you prefer using 3g. Remember to switch back to GSM mode if you are not using 3g at particular time. For those who do not use 3g simply keep it to GSM mode, which saves a lot of juice.
5. Under location tab disable wireless location, to be accurate when you use maps use normal GPS when required else, keep that off.
6. I personally like to keep the “haptic feedback vibration” and “keyboard vibration” off. Enable keyboard sound if you feel like, because sound will drain battery less than stupid vibrations.
7. Those who receive too many calls please disable "pocket mode" in sounds and use a high pitch ringtone else same and continuous vibrations will drain your battery.
8. Make sure Initial 5 battery charge cycle (full charge & full drain) is used with the help of default wall charger not the USB. Rate of charge of both differs.
9. If you want to make your battery last a bit longer, avoid using animated backgrounds or animated widgets on screen, due to constant battery drain. Use manual updates where possible.
10. Use advance task killer and use aggressive mode coupled with "when screen off" trigger. Add few loved apps in ignore rest let it kill when ever your screen switches-off saving lot of undue phone usage.
11. All above steps will help make battery stay longer.
Common Myths
1. More apps on phone do not make it any slower (TRUE).
2. Disable "Tell HTC" under settings > about phone makes phone a bit zippy (TRUE it does).
3. In accounts and sync under HTC sense tab disable auto update and select manual update coupled with update when opened.
4. Always use auto-brightness.
5. Keep screen timeout to a suitable 45 sec.
Useful "Must-Have" Apps
1. App backup and restore- Simple Fast Best (Both working style Non root & root).
2. SMS backup and Restore- Multi cross android version app.
3. Advance Task Killer Pro.
4. Titanium Backup
Well friends, let me know if this was useful will...keep updating it as well..​

Good idea.
BTW, where do I find #3 and #4?

Why did you post this in both the general & q&a forums?
sent from HTC Sensation

xnifex said:
Why did you post this in both the general & q&a forums?
sent from HTC Sensation
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coz many ppl skip one section alltogether.... so its for all....

Don't use autobrightness. It uses more CPU to analyze the light and adjust the brightness accordingly. Set the brightness to a nice level and leave it be.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Thanks bro
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

please lower the font & correct your spelling. It looks like third grader wrote this

Sorry but I automatically ignore anything written using Comic Sans.
This is a forum, not a birthday party invitation.

Spybreak said:
This is a forum, not a birthday party invitation.
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or is it?
thanks for the guide, but I second lowering the font as the bright red is blinding my precious eyes

xnifex said:
please lower the font & correct your spelling. It looks like third grader wrote this
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well bro there is a way to give suggestions...better chk ur attitude or u can simply keep numb....i've been noticing many of ur comments if u r so eager to say smthng say it in decent manner....dt jst say for heck of it..

lalitsehgal21 said:
well bro there is a way to give suggestions...better chk ur attitude or u can simply keep numb....i've been noticing many of ur comments if u r so eager to say smthng say it in decent manner....dt jst say for heck of it..
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They'll get over it.
I do have a question though:
What is "Battery Caliberation"?

Cheers for that. Some decent tips.

lalitsehgal21 said:
well bro there is a way to give suggestions...better chk ur attitude or u can simply keep numb....i've been noticing many of ur comments if u r so eager to say smthng say it in decent manner....dt jst say for heck of it..
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Ok, you want me to tell you that again in a decent matter? Here you go:
Would you so kindly reread the forum rules set forth by our MODS. I went ahead & put the link right there for you. On top of that, I'll quote the relevant stuff below.
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And to use PROPER ENGLISH
Things I don't like:
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Is that sufficient for you? Fix your post if you want to be taken seriously.

The Radius Kid said:
They'll get over it.
I do have a question though:
What is "Battery Caliberation"?
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it simply means and includes all steps to enhance the battery life buddy....try this it works

xnifex said:
Ok, you want me to tell you that again in a decent matter? Here you go:
Would you so kindly reread the forum rules set forth by our MODS. I went ahead & put the link right there for you. On top of that, I'll quote the relevant stuff below.
Is that sufficient for you? Fix your post if you want to be taken seriously.
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ok buddy point take...seems like we started on bad foot....anyway....try the steps....lets start over shall we?

Task killers of any kind should NOT be used on Android! Let the OS manage memory and resources itself. Task Killers actually worsen things instead of being any help. Theres pleanty of articles on the web about this. So remove it from your list. Otherwise its quite good compilation.

joslicx said:
Task killers of any kind should NOT be used on Android! Let the OS manage memory and resources itself. Task Killers actually worsen things instead of being any help. Theres pleanty of articles on the web about this. So remove it from your list. Otherwise its quite good compilation.
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Its a myth task killer doest not do anything of this sort else no one would have used..... trust me....its worth a work

NEVER use a task killer on 2.2+. Why? Read the other 275842958385102 posts about it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

joslicx said:
Task killers of any kind should NOT be used on Android! Let the OS manage memory and resources itself. Task Killers actually worsen things instead of being any help. Theres pleanty of articles on the web about this. So remove it from your list. Otherwise its quite good compilation.
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Task killer seems to work for me. Its increased my battery life a fair bit.

AyeNeil said:
Task killer seems to work for me. Its increased my battery life a fair bit.
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+1 for that..... dear idavid_ (#18) experience is smtime more valid than books...plz do not worry

AirDroid... yet another like Remote Web Desktop

I'm not, by any means, a developer or affiliated with AirDroid in any way. <--- definitely advertising
I came across this app earlier today and it is honestly one of the most useful apps I've ever seen. It gives one the potential to view his or her messages, calls, contacts, files and everything else on your phone FROM YOUR PC (or Mac) WEB BROWSER. All you have to do is type in a gateway that you get once you open the app on your phone. It'll take you to a log-in screen, which precedes a "desktop" with all of your phone-everything.
One of the coolest things is that it automatically syncs anything you do within the web browser to your phone and vice-versa. I.E. this is one of the few/only app(s) that will show pictures and full contact details within the web browser. Unlike other apps, if you send or receive messages, your phone logs and conversations will also be updated..as if you never used the app to begin with.
Per usual, you need to be connected to the same wifi network from your phone and PC/Mac/iPad/tablet you'll use to "control" your phone.
There aren't any notable downsides that I've read of or come across. This is simply a solid app that has unlimited potential.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
*Just to clarify, I purposely did not put this in the app section. I'm not attempting to solicit the app, only get the word of mouth out and get a discussion going on how you all feel about AirDroid<--- definitely advertising
AllGamer said:
i guess you guys never seen this from 2 years ago? FREE!
Remote Web Desktop
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm
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apparently this air drive people just ripped off the idea from Remote Web Desktop
i've been using it since AOSP 2.1
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Awesome app
sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna

wow reminds me alot of OSX air drop lol, this is soo cool!

im getting it

Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?

Scyke said:
Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?
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As a rule of thumb I delete Kies Air at first because it's bloat to me. But I tried using it as often as I'd use AirDroid. Kies Air is just so slow, laggy and well...bloated. At least the web version. I'm the kind of person who loads saves ALL of his texts. So Kies attempts to automatically load EVERYTHING on your phone at once: texts, calls, music, pictures, videos, files. Software-wise it's not necessarily efficient.
To answer the original question- yes. But this is faster and cleaner in every definition of the words. Much simpler UI with faster transfer speeds and won't hog up your bandwidth because it only loads data as needed.
*Edit from here and below:
I guess the reason for the lag behind Kies Air is due to the fact that it runs a Java applet on your web browser. AirDroid runs a much cleaner JavaScript that's linked with HTML5, as I understand.
It's up to you, of course. But after trying both, I don't think there's any actual competition as to which app is significantly faster and more efficient.

Scyke said:
Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?
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Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
However, AirDroid is 12094820394823 times faster! The ease of the interface is amazing. It's a truly innovative application if you do a lot of files transfers through your phone. I use my phone like a thumb drive all the time. This only makes it easier. Sending messages while doing work on my laptop without having to type on the phone's keyboard? Yes please.
I would easily pay for this app.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.

awesome app, but it would be even more awesome if u can fully utilize your phone (like literally browse through phone functions on a PC) on the web browser

StickyK3ys said:
Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
However, AirDroid is 12094820394823 times faster! The ease of the interface is amazing. It's a truly innovative application if you do a lot of files transfers through your phone. I use my phone like a thumb drive all the time. This only makes it easier. Sending messages while doing work on my laptop without having to type on the phone's keyboard? Yes please.
I would easily pay for this app.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.
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+1 to all of the above
XxGoKoUxX said:
awesome app, but it would be even more awesome if u can fully utilize your phone (like literally browse through phone functions on a PC) on the web browser
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I kinda thought that was part of the gig when I first got it. Nonetheless, this app made my main home screen lol. I guess that's what our awesome HDMI-MHL adapter is for

u kno what would be cool! to bump music, over nfc

HRodMusic said:
u kno what would be cool! to bump music, over nfc
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Not to sound mean but the 'Thanks' I gave you was on accident lol.
Theoretically music via NFC is the same as Bluetooth right? Unless you're talking about something else

one of the best apps for android.its the first up i restore each time i change ROMs.
simply beautiful.

yoniam said:
one of the best apps for android.its the first up i restore each time i change ROMs.
simply beautiful.
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+1 to that my friend

Joy2DaWurld said:
Not to sound mean but the 'Thanks' I gave you was on accident lol.
Theoretically music via NFC is the same as Bluetooth right? Unless you're talking about something else
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Hahah OK
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

This looks absolutely amazing. They must have spent quite a bit of time to make this app as awesome as it is. And completely free? Crazy.
Which is the only reason I have qualms about it. How can a company invest so much into an app that generates no revenue whatsoever in the Market?
I am always weary of apps that have complete access to all of your personal information (which the app needs to work correctly) and have no obvious avenue for generating revenue.
Maybe I'm missing something here? Are there ads?

i guess you guys never seen this from 2 years ago? FREE!
Remote Web Desktop
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm
apparently this air drive people just ripped off the idea from Remote Web Desktop
i've been using it since AOSP 2.1

Thanks for supporting AirDroid. Actually now, AirDroid also supports remote access to your mobile, even when your mobile is not around and not in the same wifi, you can access it to Web browser by enabling the auto wake up mode in APP.

There should be a screen viewer option.

Nice work
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg @ted77usa

StickyK3ys said:
Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.
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To the first point, Kies is Samsung proprietary. They may do similar things and Airdroid is faster, but for the HTC phones I have, Kies really lacks in the "working" dept.
Secondarily, I am unsure if your statement includes the web-based Google Contacts in desktop browser but I find it quite sufficient for my needs and is obviously synced with Android if you use Google apps.
For every other need, I would imagine the import/export functionality of Google Contacts would make it easily portable to other platforms and then able to be ported back. "Insert simple script here " tacked on to said platform enables full auto sync.

mobrewards.org popup on this site?

mobrewards.org popup on this site?
i clicked a 'link from an email' about a 'topic reply on this forum' in gmail app on S3
new galaxy s3(not 1 day old )
i got a popup saying i had won something and my location (very dodgey looking)
mobrewards.org
How could i get bad stuff so quickly. it it advertising from this site?
Cheers

I've also started getting these pop-ups recently. Maybe since Wednesday? I too have a SGS3
I don't remember clicking on anything but now every so often I get an offer pop up from mobilerewards.org saying I'm the lucky winner of something.
Rarely, I get a full screen ad from the same company which seems to 'take over' both Chrome Beta and the stock browser screen. I can change tabs but not go back to the previous page. If I press the back button on the phone, it quits either browser.
Used various anti virus and ad checkers but they all report back as clean.
It must be a new ad on the site? Maybe?
Just noticed this downloaded to my phone after one of the ads popped up "FedEx_cycling_728x90_fade.swf". I'm obviously not going to try and open it!

Im getting these for few days now on my Desire. Cant access the forums I want as this pop up thing takes up the screen!
VERY annoying... XDA Developers please do somehthing!

i clicked a reply notification from an email sent by the forum
this is the page it took me to
i blanked out my location to stop aliens tracking me
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Yes.. I wish we all were winners!
Hope the site does something to remove these.

So apparently I've won a prize
Hi guys, I'm very new to the site. So firstly, I would like to say hi to you all and let you know that I have the same issue on my HTC Desire.
I've found that this current problem has interrupted my early morning meandering on the web and as a result I am not a happy bunny.
Thus far, I have avoided pressing okay on the pop-up banner or whatever it is. My way around this annoying pop-up, is to press Menu (instead of okay) to get out of it. My deepest fear is that if okay is pressed bad things will happen. However the stupid pop-up returns each time I Google search, or use any Android applications.
Unfortunately, this is the extent of my technical prowess. So I'm a little
I am considering running an anti-virus, then restarting my phone. Not sure if this would help, but it's worth a try.
In the hope that this issue gets resolved, I will keep an eye on this thread.
Look forward to hearing from you.

Farcroft33 said:
Hi guys, I'm very new to the site. So firstly, I would like to say hi to you all and let you know that I have the same issue on my HTC Desire.
I've found that this current problem has interrupted my early morning meandering on the web and as a result I am not a happy bunny.
Thus far, I have avoided pressing okay on the pop-up banner or whatever it is. My way around this annoying pop-up, is to press Menu (instead of okay) to get out of it. My deepest fear is that if okay is pressed bad things will happen. However the stupid pop-up returns each time I Google search, or use any Android applications.
Unfortunately, this is the extent of my technical prowess. So I'm a little
I am considering running an anti-virus, then restarting my phone. Not sure if this would help, but it's worth a try.
In the hope that this issue gets resolved, I will keep an eye on this thread.
Look forward to hearing from you.
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Thanks for the extra info. I got the message again today too,, while checking for repiles about the problem. Slightly ironic.
It only happens when I click an email link to a topic reply for this forum. Are you saying it is happening other times?

Hello.
Having the exact problem.
I have tried using several virus/MALWARE programs to run scans. Avg..etc. No viruses or malware detected. Tried running these antivirus programs with ie protection. Done diddly squat
Found that it occurs everytime if you clear browser history, cookies, cache and close ie down.
Soon as i launch a certain website(for me its trueachievements.com) i get redirected.
Tried searching for mobrewards.org and android rewards and found very little.
Also deleted several of the latest apps that i installed. Had no effect. Started to try disabling some services.
This mob rewards doesnt even register in history. Disabling cookies does stop it thou but obviously that has adverse effects

steamdog said:
Hello.
Having the exact problem.
I have tried using several virus/MALWARE programs to run scans. Avg..etc. No viruses or malware detected. Tried running these antivirus programs with ie protection. Done diddly squat
Found that it occurs everytime if you clear browser history, cookies, cache and close ie down.
Soon as i launch a certain website(for me its trueachievements.com) i get redirected.
Tried searching for mobrewards.org and android rewards and found very little.
Also deleted several of the latest apps that i installed. Had no effect. Started to try disabling some services.
This mob rewards doesnt even register in history. Disabling cookies does stop it thou but obviously that has adverse effects
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Cheers for the extra info. My phone was 1 day old. I put on about 5 apps on I don't think it's that. I can list the apps?
O.T but on my old phone I started getting an ebay advert in the start thing at the top every time I booted the phone. It appeared after installing angry birds.
I'm going to root soon and add add free android. Hopefully it will fix this.
If you get any more info let us know.

galaxy44 said:
Thanks for the extra info. I got the message again today too,, while checking for repiles about the problem. Slightly ironic.
It only happens when I click an email link to a topic reply for this forum. Are you saying it is happening other times?
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No worries.
As I said, I first encountered this problem in the early hours of the morning. It just kept popping up on the screen. In my tired state I said that I pressed Menu, but realised that I had pressed the Home key - which got rid of the screen entirely. However it came back each time I tried to Google search, open Facebook or play one of my games (FB game).
Since my earlier post. I have deleted one of two Facebook games which took up about 14mb and funnily enough I have not had a pop-up since.
Time will tell. However I suspect this issue may have something to do with the time of day that I was browsing and using my phone. I have a broken sleeping pattern and have started to play Words With Friends (FB Game) and Draw Something - the FB Game that I deleted and recently stopped playing prior to this problem.
I think this could possibly be something that has been monitoring my internet habits and it rears its ugly head in the early hours of the morning. As opposed to during the day, when I don't use the web as much.
If this is the case, I would suggest that you monitor your internet usage and the time of day that these pop-ups occur. Look at everything you have installed recently and look into anything that you think may be the potential source of the problem.
If this problem persists with me, I would be tempted to back up all of my important information and reset the phone to its original factory settings. I'm not that desperate yet, but will consider it if the going gets tough. And lastly because I am paranoid about security, I would change my passwords. I acknowledge what's good for me might not be good for you. So make sure you consider your options before you do anything drastic.
I hope this helps as I am still really tired. Good luck!
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steamdog said:
Hello.
Having the exact problem.
I have tried using several virus/MALWARE programs to run scans. Avg..etc. No viruses or malware detected. Tried running these antivirus programs with ie protection. Done diddly squat
Found that it occurs everytime if you clear browser history, cookies, cache and close ie down.
Soon as i launch a certain website(for me its trueachievements.com) i get redirected.
Tried searching for mobrewards.org and android rewards and found very little.
Also deleted several of the latest apps that i installed. Had no effect. Started to try disabling some services.
This mob rewards doesnt even register in history. Disabling cookies does stop it thou but obviously that has adverse effects
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Same here. I cannot find anything in my settings either.

I rooted my galaxy S3 and installed ad free. As I said my phone is a day old. So I wouldn't master reset your phone bro.

Intrusive ads are supposed to be posted here and the mods/admins will look into them.

cheers bud
looks like there are some similar complaints about 'the add' in that post
i posted my screens there now )
Many Thanks

Anyone else who's getting this popup also install the Swype apk posted on the SGS3 forums? Only happened since I installed that, although as it's only happened twice - and when on XDA - it may well be coincidence.

This pop up started when I was using my stumble upon app. Then it started popping up in my dolfin browser
Sent from my SGH-I727R using XDA

Getting the same here on my 1 day old galaxy s3. Really strange, I've got it set up exactly the same as my nexus s all the same apps etc, and never had a problem with that.

I got this once on my practically dead HTC Desire (with practically nothing on it) about four days ago, and once per day on my new SIII since then. I've googled for it several times, it seems to be affecting a wide range of people on different sites, devices, and platforms. But no solution for making it stop had appeared to me as yet. Since it hit my old Desire before I put Swype on my new SIII, I don't think it is the S 3 swype file that was posted here.

I dont have Swype or use FB apps, and just keep getting this irritating pop up.
And it only happens accessing XDA forums!
???

XDA's sure gone downhill fast since the reputable developers started leaving to that other site. First AirPush ads aimed at developers, now full-page popups for paid SMS scams. Hit "back" and it takes you to the page BEFORE the page with the ad.
Way to **** the bed, XDA.

[APP] [2.1+] ROOT DEFENSE V5 With Geo-Fencing - November 22nd 2012

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Force GPS on / off
Survives wipes / hard-reset and is embedded directly into the OS of your phone for ultimate security
Only shows up in running tasks under “all” and is listed as “security” with the default android system icon.
No interface or application icons on the phone (Truly hidden)
Tracks the LAST phone location on map with timestamp and battery life.
Remotely wipe ALL data including memory cards for ultimate protection (Ensure your data is not compromised.)
Offline data capture will hold and transmit data captured when no internet access is available.
Sound alarm
Turn on ringer (Great if you can find your phone and the ringer is off.)
Uses very little processor and battery
Root Defense Pro – Includes all features listed above plus the following: ($3.99 / Month)
Can be installed on up to 5 phones with no additional cost!
All phones can be managed through the same web account.
Captures call, MMS, SMS, browser history, location, internet favorites and contacts
Tracks phone locations and path over time on a map along with timestamps and battery life
Create lists of allowed or disallowed contacts (great for kids you want only calling home or 911)
Export your logs from the website to your computer.
Silently listen in to phone (If phone is stolen, this might help you identify who has it.)
Sends messages to phone. (Send your kids a message directly to their screen without using SMS)
Allows remotely sending of SMS messages from phone.
Redirect incoming or outgoing calls from select contacts to a different phone.
ROOT DEFENSE REQUIRES A ROOTED ANDROID PHONE FOR INSTALLATION!
REMEMBER, ROOT DEFENSE HAS NO INTERFACE SO USE THE CREDENTIALS CREATED DURING INSTALL TO LOG IN TO WWW.UNFAIRWARE.COM TO VIEW AND CONTROL YOUR PHONES!
AND PLEASE, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT YOU MUST UNINSTALL FROM OUR WEBSITE FOR FULL PROTECTION
CAN BE DOWNLOADED DIRECTLY FROM OUR SITE HERE

Change Log:
V5 has been released!
* Geo-fencing has been added so now you can define regions on a map and set rules to alert you as to if the phone entered or left those regions during stated days and times.
Keep in mind that this feature is still beta. Try to give extra ~30 feet extra room just to be sure you don't get false positives. This will do a check on every GPS check-in time to see if you have entered or left defined areas. So accuracy is only going to be as accurate as check-in time periods. In general I recommend people don't ever alter the default 15 minutes however.
* The issues with the block lists have been fixed up. You can add a block for any number 4 digits or greater and it will be found if the transmission ends with those four digits. Example: if your block is 4567 then the phone number 555-123-4567 would be found. so would 34567,234567,123457,...,5551234567
* The GPS module has been rewritten and is MUCH more efficient and accurate at the same time.
* The "Secret communications" option didn't make it into this release because of time constraints, but will be available in the next release. Time-estimates will be posted when available.
Older changes have been removed to keep post length reasonable.

Reserved - just in case

Look very useful!thanks for sharing.

Now available on the Android Market:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unfairware.rootdefense

Brand new version just released, supports most devices including tablets now.

Version 3.0 has been released with support for many new devices.

hmm and how is this different than cerebus. Thats not a dig at your program that is just an honest question. Because I was thinking of using that product.

zikronix said:
hmm and how is this different than cerebus. Thats not a dig at your program that is just an honest question. Because I was thinking of using that product.
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Yeah, Cerberus was a program created after ours that has many of the same features. Even including the 5 licenses for the price of one.
Root Defense comes with many many more features though and no user interface on the phone.
Basically its still free but with more features and a stealthier install.
Also ours shows the existing data of logs and location from before a phone went missing so you aren't in the dark when your device is off.
If you go to both sites and look at the feature set differences, they are actually quite drastically different and both are free for all security features.

I would agree that your app does more than Cerberus but your app is not the only one that will survive a system reset. Cerberus and others I suspect can also embed themself in the rom thus being able to survive a system reset. I have been using Cerberus for a long time so I am not sure if yours was released before Cerberus, as you indicated in a previous statement.
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I would agree that your app does more than Cerberus but your app is not the only one that will survive a system reset. Cerberus and others I suspect can also embed themself in the rom thus being able to survive a system reset. I have been using Cerberus for a long time so I am not sure if yours was released before Cerberus, as you indicated in a previous statement.
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Yes, that's true. It was an honest mistake that i never updated the original PR release posting on the front that was originally added when we were were the "Only" ones. You can only keep that title for a short while on anything good.
And yes we have been offering it longer. This feature started with certain stands of our OVERVI3W product and then we stripped them into two completely different products and rebuilt Root Defense from scratch to offer more methods than OVERVI3W.
Cerberus has had a suspiciously similar structure and sales model to ours. Not that it matters, I'm sure they are also a great product however if you simply lost your phone and the battery is dead than Cerberus wouldn't even be able to help you find it. Anyway, I've also removed the word "only" on the first post. Thanks for your keen eye.

chetstriker said:
Yes, that's true. It was an honest mistake that i never updated the original PR release posting on the front that was originally added when we were were the "Only" ones. You can only keep that title for a short while on anything good.
And yes we have been offering it longer. This feature started with certain stands of our OVERVI3W product and then we stripped them into two completely different products and rebuilt Root Defense from scratch to offer more methods than OVERVI3W.
Cerberus has had a suspiciously similar structure and sales model to ours. Not that it matters, I'm sure they are also a great product however if you simply lost your phone and the battery is dead than Cerberus wouldn't even be able to help you find it. Anyway, I've also removed the word "only" on the first post. Thanks for your keen eye.
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How would any app find a lost phone that had a dead battery ? Cerberus, lookout, AVG etc. are able to help you track your phone (lost or stolen) and some (like Cerberus) will play a sound, say a message using TTS, sound an alarm or make the phone ring. Granted, the phone needs to actually be turned on and have a charge in it's battery, but then this is a limitation of any other tracking app.
I will admit, one thing I really like from Cerberus is its pricing model, with a one off cost for life. Yes, I realise that does not 'guarantee' updates, but then nothing does, really...
Sorry to have inadvertently 'hijacked' your thread I'm definitely going to give your product a try. Do you have a corporate pricing model you could share? My company may be replacing all of their Blackberry devices with Android ones so something like this will be great to allow management of these devices.

Won't complete setup. At 4th or 5th screen where it says to swipe and it won't swipe...

cephraim said:
Won't complete setup. At 4th or 5th screen where it says to swipe and it won't swipe...
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Is your phone rooted? and if so does it have su installed? You must at least have to be rooted and have su before it lets you continue.
If you do have both, it sounds like you have superuser set to automatically decline root privileges.
You can try the following, go to your program, open superuser and click the wrench in the upper-right corner, click security, click automatic response and then make sure it DOESN'T say Deny. If it's set for Prompt, you can try setting it to Allow to see if that fixes your problem as I've read that running CM10 on some model phones (like my Epic 4g touch) have a bug that causes the prompt feature not to always run.
If that's the case then switching it to Accept will fix that.

Well, I was able to complete the install, but I decided to uninstall for two reasons:
1) Lookout said it was a risk. I guess I know why.
2) It asked for SU access from several different modules (aupdate and security). This seemed odd to me. Is it what we should see?
You should know that the uninstall did not go well, either. I had to uninstall via Titanium to get it fully off my phone.
I'm willing to try it again if you could help clarify the multiple SU requests.
Thanks,
Eph

That is normal, the Root Defense app you download from the market or website is actually just an installer.
It configures and embeds the actual application "Security" into the OS and embeds a separate program "Aupdates" which allows for the silent remote uninstalls and updates without having to go through the market.
You can't uninstall Root Defense in any normal fashion because that's the whole point of a more secure application.
To uninstall properly, you're supposed to log in to the website and click the "uninstall" button in the lower right hand corner of the command tab.
The are all very deliberate and specifically designed to make the program as invisible as possible and as hard to remove as possible for anyone who tries to steal your device.
As far as lookout mobile goes, I believe it probably warns on any app accessing log files. I can only guess without knowing how there program works.
cephraim said:
Well, I was able to complete the install, but I decided to uninstall for two reasons:
1) Lookout said it was a risk. I guess I know why.
2) It asked for SU access from several different modules (aupdate and security). This seemed odd to me. Is it what we should see?
You should know that the uninstall did not go well, either. I had to uninstall via Titanium to get it fully off my phone.
I'm willing to try it again if you could help clarify the multiple SU requests.
Thanks,
Eph
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Does Root Defense survive a ROM reflash? I'm looking for an undeletable theft protection. All ideas are very much welcome and appreciated.

SecUpwN said:
Does Root Defense survive a ROM reflash? I'm looking for an undeletable theft protection. All ideas are very much welcome and appreciated.
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No.
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SecUpwN said:
Does Root Defense survive a ROM reflash? I'm looking for an undeletable theft protection. All ideas are very much welcome and appreciated.
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Unfortunately no, no current solutions offer this. This will survive a wipe or hard-reset but not flashing a new ROM.
Unless better protection is added via hardware or chipsets embedded in devices, this probably won't be a reality. With a rooted device you have full access to ALL aspects of the OS, partitions, everything. And to many that is the point of rooting.
For now, the best we can do is make it as difficult a process as possible to reduce your chances of loosing connection.

Version 3.1 released!
Change log includes:
* Fix for calls not being recorded bug
* Fix for auto-update can cause auto-uninstall of itself.
* Fix for phones not attaching after install
To ensure your auto-updater is working probably and you weren't affected by the auto-uninstall of program from update bug, please download the latest version from our first post or directly from the market.

Updated: Amazon System App / Bloatware Tracking Sheet - as of FireOS 5.6.2.0

Hi Everyone! ??
Now that it appears we have a new, solid way to disable and effectively block Amazon bloatware/system apps from our Fire tablets (detailed in this awesome HOW TO guide as discovered by Supersonic27543), I thought I'd take a moment to at least give a good starting effort at updating the very useful system app tracking spreadsheet that bakshi originally created a few months ago (I use it all the time/have found it very helpful!).
With FireOS 5.6.2.0 and 'Show Mode' and what have you, there are more and more stock system apps and I just wanted to see if we could collectively share our findings. I ran the simple ADB command that lists system apps/packages on my HD 8 (2017) and them simply appended the new items onto a copy of bakshi's Google sheet, added some color coding, etc. I haven't had a lot of time to fill in a lot of the app details that I've become familiar with myself, but I wanted to at least get something started. So here is an easier to read html presentation view of my updated sheet, and here is a version allows for filtering/column resizing/comments/etc..
Ummm ?, does someone by chance have any interest in taking ownership of this document? Or maybe at least collectively? ?? I do have more details that I've learned through my own trial and error / several factory resets and I'm more than happy to share, but I'm not really an Android OS wizard or pro. Many of the new apps are part of "Show Mode" / are new calling features (which I find weird / frustrating since we don't even get the full "Echo Show" drop-in / calling experience anyway) ... ??
Hopefully this document can be useful for many of us. I'm happy to hear any thoughts and to share ownership of the document with anyone who wants to take a stab.
Thanks all!
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My Kindle Fire HD 8 is soooo Slow
Hey me again, so I'm looking at your updated spreadsheet for 5.6.2.0 on the bloatware. I'm trying to understand it - i.e what can I remove safely? I assume the apps that you have marked as 'safe' can be removed. What about the ones that have a blank in the column 'Safe to Remove'? I can see why some shouldn't be removed, but why do I care about amazon.glorialist (for example). I have no idea what that even is - that's not saying much... I guess I'm confused at this point on what I can get rid of. I have my fire HD back to ground zero, running 5.6.2.0 but that's it and it's running pretty good speed wise. But I have to get rid of something because once I install google services I'll be right back where I was (dial-up or less response) so then I might as well as stay with the vanilla Fire. Thanks!
richaardvark said:
Hi Everyone! ?
Now that it appears we have a new, solid way to disable and effectively block Amazon bloatware/system apps from our Fire tablets (detailed in this awesome HOW TO guide as discovered by Supersonic27543), I thought I'd take a moment to at least give a good starting effort at updating the very useful system app tracking spreadsheet that bakshi originally created a few months ago (I use it all the time/have found it very helpful!).
With FireOS 5.6.2.0 and 'Show Mode' and what have you, there are more and more stock system apps and I just wanted to see if we could collectively share our findings. I ran the simple ADB command that lists system apps/packages on my HD 8 (2017) and them simply appended the new items onto a copy of bakshi's Google sheet, added some color coding, etc. I haven't had a lot of time to fill in a lot of the app details that I've become familiar with myself, but I wanted to at least get something started. So here is an easier to read html presentation view of my updated sheet, and here is a version allows for filtering/column resizing/comments/etc..
Ummm , does someone by chance have any interest in taking ownership of this document? Or maybe at least collectively? I do have more details that I've learned through my own trial and error / several factory resets and I'm more than happy to share, but I'm not really an Android OS wizard or pro. Many of the new apps are part of "Show Mode" / are new calling features (which I find weird / frustrating since we don't even get the full "Echo Show" drop-in / calling experience anyway) ...
Hopefully this document can be useful for many of us. I'm happy to hear any thoughts and to share ownership of the document with anyone who wants to take a stab.
Thanks all!
richaardvark
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DallasRedHead said:
Hey me again, so I'm looking at your updated spreadsheet for 5.6.2.0 on the bloatware. I'm trying to understand it - i.e what can I remove safely? I assume the apps that you have marked as 'safe' can be removed. What about the ones that have a blank in the column 'Safe to Remove'? I can see why some shouldn't be removed, but why do I care about amazon.glorialist (for example). I have no idea what that even is - that's not saying much... I guess I'm confused at this point on what I can get rid of. I have my fire HD back to ground zero, running 5.6.2.0 but that's it and it's running pretty good speed wise. But I have to get rid of something because once I install google services I'll be right back where I was (dial-up or less response) so then I might as well as stay with the vanilla Fire. Thanks!
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You ask very good questions! hah
With regard to which exact programs should be disabled, a couple of things come to mind. First - I have to be open and say I, myself am still trying to find just the right balance. Every day when I get free time, I tinker around and enable/disable certain apps. By far, the tablet is in a much more use-able state than it was with all those factory-installed apps running, but there are still minor issues that pop up. As you can see from that post of mine you quoted above with the spreadsheet, I kinda foolishly assumed that there'd be kind of a collective conversation about this among HD 8 owners on here, and while I did get some good information and continue to daily, I realized very quickly that there isn't really a one-size-fits-all answer here. So to answer your question, I'd say what apps you disable largely depend on your goals for how you plan to use the device. Some people want to strip the device of anything Amazon as much as possible with the hope of ending up with as close to a stock "Android" device as possible. Some people want to be able to use Alexa still, some people like their Kindle e-books or whatever. I can definitely help you look at which individual apps to disable but would need to know what features you'd like to keep and what features you want to remove. Are you wanting to install a new launcher, or keep the FireOS launcher? Do you want full Alexa as well as "Show Mode"? All things to consider and totally changes what apps you disable or leave be. So that's the first thing to take into consideration when deciding which apps to disable.
Another thing to be aware of is that if you disassemble certain packages this annoying parental control lock warning begins to pop up (I guess you could say Amazon kinda booby-trapped the device, lol). It's not a big deal, but depending on what you disable, you'll notice an annoying pop-up message. The original author of that de-bloat thread (Supersonic27543) mentions this in his OP. There are fixes for this though.
User Ivorin put together a nice list of apps he chose to disable with clear notes and I found this helpful. I've made a few minor modifications however on my own device, added a few more to disable, kept a couple he chose to disable. See his list here.
Another question I have for you is how are you going about installing Google Services? Is there a certain guide/thread you're following? There are several different posts on here with essentially the same set of instructions, but I do think there are a couple of different suggested steps among these posts, with some methods a little better than others. I only ask this because, you shouldn't really experience any major slow-down in performance after installing Google/the Play Store, at least not like it sounds like you've been experiencing. My device(s) overall are pretty snappy and solid. So we should look at that as well.
Sorry I didn't have a simple, one-size-fits-all answer for you, but if you give me just a few more details I'll have answers for you and you should be able to quickly make it all come together.

DallasRedHead said:
But I have to get rid of something because once I install google services I'll be right back where I was (dial-up or less response) so then I might as well as stay with the vanilla Fire. Thanks!
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This is the thread I've typically followed when installing Google Services/Play store. These four files, in this order. It doesn't matter that they're outdated - as soon as you bring it all online it will update itself to the latest versions.

richaardvark said:
You ask very good questions! hah
Well now i have more questions
With regard to which exact programs should be disabled, a couple of things come to mind. First - I have to be open and say I, myself am still trying to find just the right balance. Every day when I get free time, I tinker around and enable/disable certain apps. By far, the tablet is in a much more use-able state than it was with all those factory-installed apps running, but there are still minor issues that pop up. As you can see from that post of mine you quoted above with the spreadsheet, I kinda foolishly assumed that there'd be kind of a collective conversation about this among HD 8 owners on here, and while I did get some good information and continue to daily, I realized very quickly that there isn't really a one-size-fits-all answer here. So to answer your question, I'd say what apps you disable largely depend on your goals for how you plan to use the device. Some people want to strip the device of anything Amazon as much as possible with the hope of ending up with as close to a stock "Android" device as possible. Some people want to be able to use Alexa still, some people like their Kindle e-books or whatever. I can definitely help you look at which individual apps to disable but would need to know what features you'd like to keep and what features you want to remove. Are you wanting to install a new launcher, or keep the FireOS launcher? Do you want full Alexa as well as "Show Mode"? All things to consider and totally changes what apps you disable or leave be. So that's the first thing to take into consideration when deciding which apps to disable.
You asked for it so here goes:
Well in a perfect world I would like it to do everything my laptop does... However back to reality. I got it to:
1. Play how-to videos
2. Pull up other types of information via the web
3. Get mail and my calendar and contacts plus keep the last two updated off my Outlook installed on my PC. (I want the gmail app at least and it’s not on the Amazon app store). I know I can get yahoo thru the Appstore. I would rather use Outlook but refuse to pay for Outlook 365. I need to keep the Fire stock email, calendar and contacts for the program I run on outlook to propagate the calendar/contacts. I’m sure there are others apps but this works and right now that’s all I care about.
4. Play videos when I’m on the road (either wifi or downloaded)
5. I do like the voice to text recognition because without a regular keyboard my typing frustrates me (I use the same on my phone)
6. Read doc files like PDF, Work, EXCEL, PPT etc. Only need a reader, don’t want to create or edit.
7. Not a bit gamer – when waiting at a docs office I play solitaire (mostly) or candy crush so don’t need resources for that.
8. I’m still old fashioned – if I want to read a book I want paper, the same goes for magazines and newspapers. I read on the laptop when I have to. So I could care less about Kindle…
9. I can’t stand the fire launcher but I’ve read where Nova is inconsistent on Fire HD so might be stuck with that unless there is something else out there that works??? (low on my priority list).
10. I do like Alexa because I use it in the house. If she is a big hog I’ll get rid of it.
11. Get rid of the ads
I think that’s the majority of it. I just want to get decent response time but I don’t know what to delete. For example, I tried killing some stuff that was running in the background but didn’t know what those processes were and ended up having to reboot. I did this a few times and got frustrated and quit.
Have I ended up confusing the issue? I just don’t have time to keep tinkering around with this thing. If I can get decent response time and get my must-have apps on there I’ll be happy. I just would like to know what I can kill and be done with it...
Another thing to be aware of is that if you disassemble certain packages this annoying parental control lock warning begins to pop up (I guess you could say Amazon kinda booby-trapped the device, lol). It's not a big deal, but depending on what you disable, you'll notice an annoying pop-up message. The original author of that de-bloat thread (Supersonic27543) mentions this in his OP. There are fixes for this though.
I saw that too but I can deal with that later, the speed right now is the most annoying thing... And the ads...
User Ivorin put together a nice list of apps he chose to disable with clear notes and I found this helpful. I've made a few minor modifications however on my own device, added a few more to disable, kept a couple he chose to disable. See his list here.
Got it.
Another question I have for you is how are you going about installing Google Services? Is there a certain guide/thread you're following? There are several different posts on here with essentially the same set of instructions, but I do think there are a couple of different suggested steps among these posts, with some methods a little better than others. I only ask this because, you shouldn't really experience any major slow-down in performance after installing Google/the Play Store, at least not like it sounds like you've been experiencing. My device(s) overall are pretty snappy and solid. So we should look at that as well.
Well that took some time because I was flip flopping around and the instructions weren’t very clear (I figured it out) but I ultimately got from two sources.
http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=Amazon Fire 5th gen
He had two ‘features’ I used. 1) remove the annoying ads, 2) fix it so Amazon updates doesn’t break the Google apps.
I started with this one that led me to rootjunky to get Google play services down:
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-google-play-on-a-kindle-fire-and-install-any-1790706649
I see the instructions you used are different and I also see that you can disable the ads thru that ‘pm’ command? I saw mention of that in Ivorin’s list that you referred me to – maybe it was in the other ones too, I just saw his comment in that list.
>>>>> OK, so my question is why do I need google play services if you are just downloading the APKs? Someone else mentioned using apkpure.com to get APKs and forget about Google play services but then I read too that some of these sites might have malware etc. and to stay away from them. I’m happy downloading the APKs myself. As you have probably noticed I only know enough to be dangerous, I’ve just really begun to stick my big toe into the Android world.
I also noticed that some apps (non-stock) simply will not install so I just have to go to the web for those.
Sorry I didn't have a simple, one-size-fits-all answer for you, but if you give me just a few more details I'll have answers for you and you should be able to quickly make it all come together.
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I Get that and I really can't thank you enough for your time on this!!!
BTW, the first site you sent me to on the bloatware: He has instructions on getting com.amazon.unifiedsharefacebook. FYI it was already on my Fire HD after I went and got it off the site. I did see where someone said it used to be there but the developers got rid of it – I guess not since I have 5.6.2….

richaardvark said:
This is the thread I've typically followed when installing Google Services/Play store. These four files, in this order. It doesn't matter that they're outdated - as soon as you bring it all online it will update itself to the latest versions.
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I've used the method in the thread you linked multiple times on my HD 10 7th gen running 5.6.1.0 and I can say it works perfectly every time and have never had any issues with Google play store/services acting up in any way.
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Got Google loaded but some issues with internet?
tylerhole said:
I've used the method in the thread you linked multiple times on my HD 10 7th gen running 5.6.1.0 and I can say it works perfectly every time and have never had any issues with Google play store/services acting up in any way.
OK, I loaded the four APKs you and richaardvark suggested. All went fine thank you. So that's all I have on it now, except for Stock and a file manager. I'm trying things one at a time to see if there is a particular app that brings me to my knees. I do still need to remove the bloatware once that's figured out.
What I'm running into is I use the SILK browser to load up sites that I go to all the time just to see if I'm getting decent response. I have two that are so slow on the Fire but not on my phone for example. Now what I'm seeing on the 'draggers' is after a long period it comes back and says "No Internet". All I have to do is hit enter and it loads right up. Does anyone have an idea as to what might be causing this? I tested the same sites on my phone with no issues.... Thanks!
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DallasRedHead said:
tylerhole said:
I've used the method in the thread you linked multiple times on my HD 10 7th gen running 5.6.1.0 and I can say it works perfectly every time and have never had any issues with Google play store/services acting up in any way.
OK, I loaded the four APKs you and richaardvark suggested. All went fine thank you. So that's all I have on it now, except for Stock and a file manager. I'm trying things one at a time to see if there is a particular app that brings me to my knees. I do still need to remove the bloatware once that's figured out.
What I'm running into is I use the SILK browser to load up sites that I go to all the time just to see if I'm getting decent response. I have two that are so slow on the Fire but not on my phone for example. Now what I'm seeing on the 'draggers' is after a long period it comes back and says "No Internet". All I have to do is hit enter and it loads right up. Does anyone have an idea as to what might be causing this? I tested the same sites on my phone with no issues.... Thanks!
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Why don't you just install chrome since you have the play store up and running? I use it daily without any issues on mine. And I got rid of all the Amazon crap. You can see all the apps I currently have installed in the attached pics.
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i like some of the amazon apps but prefer the straight android versions from google play can the book music prime vids work if i get rid of the stock versions a replaced with apks? plus dont want alexa at all or any of the new crap amazon pushed with latest update... is it possible to get uptodate without all the crap? cause im still at 5.6.1.0? i know alot of questions....

tylerhole said:
DallasRedHead said:
Why don't you just install chrome since you have the play store up and running? I use it daily without any issues on mine. And I got rid of all the Amazon crap. You can see all the apps I currently have installed in the attached pics. View attachment 4582486View attachment 4582487
Yes, I will do that. I need to get rid of the Amazon crap too - just need to figure out what I can safely get rid of. I was checking speeds before I loaded it up with standard android apps - which I did last time and my system ran at a crawl so I'm trying to identify one-by-one which one (or ones) are the culprit. (I completely started over from scratch after looking at this forum and getting help from y'all).
BTW. It looks like you use the standard Fire Launcher - is that correct? Thx.
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DallasRedHead said:
tylerhole said:
Why don't you just install chrome since you have the play store up and running? I use it daily without any issues on mine. And I got rid of all the Amazon crap. You can see all the apps I currently have installed in the attached pics. View attachment 4582486View attachment 4582487
Yes, I will do that. I need to get rid of the Amazon crap too - just need to figure out what I can safely get rid of. I was checking speeds before I loaded it up with standard android apps - which I did last time and my system ran at a crawl so I'm trying to identify one-by-one which one (or ones) are the culprit. (I completely started over from scratch after looking at this forum and getting help from y'all).
BTW. It looks like you use the standard Fire Launcher - is that correct? Thx.
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My solution to the slow system was to remove all the Amazon stuff that has been deemed safe to remove that I've seen in various threads here. Of course some still want to use some Amazon apps so it's not the solution for everyone. Just keep in mind while you are trying stuff that removing one thing may break something else and cause your tablet to slow down. But best of luck, be sure to post your findings! [emoji4]
As far as my launcher, I actually replaced the nova Launcher and have the widgets working [emoji16]
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tylerhole said:
My solution to the slow system was to remove all the Amazon stuff that has been deemed safe to remove that I've seen in various threads here. Of course some still want to use some Amazon apps so it's not the solution for everyone. Just keep in mind while you are trying stuff that removing one thing may break something else and cause your tablet to slow down. But best of luck, be sure to post your findings! [emoji4]
As far as my launcher, I actually replaced the nova Launcher and have the widgets working [emoji16]
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I posted this in another thread but basically I got everything working and started 'PM Hiding' stuff. I read that 'pm hide' and 'pm disable' are essentially the same. Sometimes I would have to leave the 'com' on front of the name (that I was trying to hide), other times I had to leave it off. I was getting 'new hidden state: true' but after reboot they are all still on my desktop I don't know why.
I was using Richaarvark spreadsheet and only getting rid of 'safe' stuff. Some stuff I don't want to get rid of. Others I wasn't sure. But I definately got rid of all the parental controls, the clock, weather, maps but they are still there and I don't know what I'm doing wrong! Help tremendously appreciated. I'll get back to NOVA once I get this figured out

DallasRedHead said:
I posted this in another thread but basically I got everything working and started 'PM Hiding' stuff. I read that 'pm hide' and 'pm disable' are essentially the same. Sometimes I would have to leave the 'com' on front of the name (that I was trying to hide), other times I had to leave it off. I was getting 'new hidden state: true' but after reboot they are all still on my desktop I don't know why.
I was using Richaarvark spreadsheet and only getting rid of 'safe' stuff. Some stuff I don't want to get rid of. Others I wasn't sure. But I definately got rid of all the parental controls, the clock, weather, maps but they are still there and I don't know what I'm doing wrong! Help tremendously appreciated. I'll get back to NOVA once I get this figured out
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Have you tried pm disable instead? Hide might only be hiding it in your launcher until reboot. Otherwise, although you'd have to reset to get them back, you could try the method in this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-root-cleaner-android-experience-hd8-t3797327
I know it says 5.6 and up it won't work, but I'm on 5.6.1.0 and my friend is on 5.6.2.0 and it's worked for both ours.
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tylerhole said:
Have you tried pm disable instead? Hide might only be hiding it in your launcher until reboot. Otherwise, although you'd have to reset to get them back, you could try the method in this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-root-cleaner-android-experience-hd8-t3797327
I know it says 5.6 and up it won't work, but I'm on 5.6.1.0 and my friend is on 5.6.2.0 and it's worked for both ours.
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Thanks for the info but... I tried pm disable and half of them wouldn't disable - why I went to hide them. Also, when this kept happening what I read was disable requires a rooted device (mine is not).
Do you think I could just try pm uninstalling - I don't want to start over! I've spent hours on this and have brain drain and looked at so many threads. The initial thread I was pointed to was https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744/page23#post77476583 and that's what I've been following.
I have 5.6.2 btw. --- AND A HEADACHE!
Thanks!

DallasRedHead said:
Thanks for the info but... I tried pm disable and half of them wouldn't disable - why I went to hide them. Also, when this kept happening what I read was disable requires a rooted device (mine is not).
Do you think I could just try pm uninstalling - I don't want to start over! I've spent hours on this and have brain drain and looked at so many threads. The initial thread I was pointed to was https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744/page23#post77476583 and that's what I've been following.
I have 5.6.2 btw. --- AND A HEADACHE!
Thanks!
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Do you have the HD 8 or 10?

tylerhole said:
Do you have the HD 8 or 10?
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I have an HD 8.
Interesting, I just checked this. While my desktop icons didn't disappear my searches on chrome have gotten a lot faster! I had two sites that I was testing with that were so slow I would walk away while they loaded up. Now they load up great! Hum.....

DallasRedHead said:
I have an HD 8.
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Oh... I wasn't aware of what device you had so yeah, disregard what I said, my apologies.

tylerhole said:
Oh... I wasn't aware of what device you had so yeah, disregard what I said, my apologies.
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No problem but now I don't know where to go from here. Maybe someone will reply from the original post I was following... I'm really just now sticking my toe in the Android world.

DallasRedHead said:
No problem but now I don't know where to go from here. Maybe someone will reply from the original post I was following... I'm really just now sticking my toe in the Android world.
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I haven't attempted to do anything regarding disabling or removing system apps on mine without root, plus I have the 10 not the 8 so there's other lil differences too.
That combined with Amazon making things more difficult to be done with every update not sure if I could point you in a direction to go without doing a bunch of digging through threads myself lol.
I'm sure there is someone will be able to chime in and help ya out, just a matter of time. Hope ya get it figured out and I'll be checking back to see what happens! [emoji854]
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can some1 tell me what i did wrong i disable only the safe apk.. reboot the amazon goes into moptimizing system storange application mode forever.. then i have to go into adb and sideload stock firmware