So I took the plunge yesterday and flashed my Kaiser with a custom ROM for the first time yesterday - Laurentius26's WM6.1 image, and I must say I am very pleased.
This has spurred me into trying to get my today screen *exactly* as I want it - I have tried various plugins but most seem to have too much (ie waste screen real estate) in them or too little.
I really like the Ultimate Launcher tabbed menu that comes with the ROM (I think it's a demo) for the gesture based tab switching with rotating cube effect, so I will probably stick with that.
I have done some mockups of what I want, and attached images to this post.
I want the top of the screen to be static, showing the time, date and the number of messages (ie SMS / MMS / Missed calls). I want the time quite big so you can glance at it whilst driving (No clock in car...). and before you say "Just use HTC home" - I do NOT want the tabs at the bottom of HTC home wasting screen space. I tried HHC, but you cannot set the number of tabs to 0 to remove the tabs alltogether.
The bottom half of the screen I want variable depending on which Ultimate Launcher (UL) tab I am on.
I want an "Apps" tab for quick launches. I bought SPB pocket plus which has an excellent app launcher, I will use that.
I want a "Media" tab with something like the HTC audio manager plugin capable of showing current track along with play/pause controls etc. I think this should be easy to do, I just need a player app with a today screen plugin.
I want a "Mail" tab with a list (ie preview) of latest emails / SMSs etc. Not sure what to use here, i own SPB diary as part of a bundle but this seems a bit overkill for this.
I want a "Boarding" tab for when I am planning riding activities for the weekend. (See image #2). For this, ideally I want a quick contacts bit at the top so I can one touch call my riding buddies and a weather strip below to see if it is worth riding this weekend
I need help with this bit - anyone know a quick contact list plugin like the tab from HTC home? Also, ultimate launcher will only allow you to specify one plugin for each tab, when I want two for this tab (Contacts and weather) - so I will need a plugin that can hold multiple plugins on a page and then specify that plugin as the one for the Boarding tab in ultimate launcher. SPB today does this, so I could maybe use that, unless I want to use SPB today in another tab as you can only use each plugin once.
So... suggestions are needed for:
Clock like the big one for HTC home (Found one or two, but none seem to show it just right like the HTC home one - big time with small date)
SMS / MMS / Missed calls / Voicemails counter like the one from HTC home - Does anyone know an app that lists waiting voicemails? Or is this info not available to the OS?
A quick contacts page like the one from the HTC home tab.
A today plugin that can accept other today plugins.
Any ideas?
TIA
I would like to know the same. Especially the part about the HTC Home plugin without any tabs at the bottom. I've tried to do this with rlToday, but the links of the unread mail/SMS and missed calls are not preserved. Any ideas are welcome!
Sounds a lot like my own wishlist.
SBSH PocketBreeze (with PocketWeather!); gives you a tabbed today with calender, tasks, contacts, notes, mail, other plugins and more. Skinable and with tons of settings...
Maybe CTD's BatteryStatus or rlToday for clock and call, sms, mms and mail counters?
Well it looks like I am not alone.
Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised by the number of packages that try to offer an all-in-one solution?
To me, there are two kinds of today plugins:
Ones that provide tabbed pages or some other organisation system and ones that provide the functionality (eg a weather strip, a clock strip). I just wish that people would package them as seperate entities, because you do not have to use a package's organisational system to want to use one of the package's pages.
I would also like to see some kind of system to allow multiple instances of a page. For example, on one ultimatelauncher tab I may want an SPB app launcher with app set A, but on another ultimatelauncher page i may want an SPB app launcher with app set B. currently the only way to do this is to use a different app (ie not SPB launcher app) for app set B. Either that or use SPB launcher's tab system, but I want to use ultimatelauncher to handle the tabs. I wonder if you could take the SPB launcher package, rename it to something else and install it a second time under a different name?
m0o5 said:
Sounds a lot like my own wishlist.
SBSH PocketBreeze (with PocketWeather!); gives you a tabbed today with calender, tasks, contacts, notes, mail, other plugins and more. Skinable and with tons of settings...
Maybe CTD's BatteryStatus or rlToday for clock and call, sms, mms and mail counters?
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rlToday looks ideal for replicating the clock and message counter portion of HTC home, thanks very much!
This is my current Today Screen set-up.... I'm using all Spb apps.
Touch Commander 3.0
http://www.touch-commander.com/
Touch Commander lets you browse and scroll a Windows Mobile Pocket PC with a sweep of a finger across the screen just like an iPhone or TouchFLO. With just a touch, you'll be able to make quick calls to photo contacts, start applications, browse folders, get and send SMS, view photos and video, etc. Key features include full customization of interface elements, a Full Screen mode, and animated transition effects between screens.
Key Components
* Touch Control - scroll lists, open and minimize applications by finger sweeps
* Today Plugin with clock, weather, launcher and more
* Cube-like Multipage Launcher
* Finger-friendly Start Menu
* Titlebar Battery Indicator
Not a bad app. Not what I want though.
I do like your shortcuts screen in the cube though. Being able to add apps, contacts or subfolders is very cool.
Woohoo! some progress at last!
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I used rlToday for the top, modified someone else's copy of HTC home to slim it down to 80px, leaving the rest for the ultimatelaunch cube
I would still like a quick contacts manager like the one in HTC home (Instead of the one I have below spb weather), and I would also like a nicer music plugin for the music tab, but overall I really like it - very finger friendly
Oh, and the clock is a transparency, so it works with any theme
Looking good.
Could you share the top bit?
Cheers
evilc said:
Woohoo! some progress at last!
I used rlToday for the top, modified someone else's copy of HTC home to slim it down to 80px, leaving the rest for the ultimatelaunch cube
I would still like a quick contacts manager like the one in HTC home (Instead of the one I have below spb weather), and I would also like a nicer music plugin for the music tab, but overall I really like it - very finger friendly
Oh, and the clock is a transparency, so it works with any theme
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Wow, thats almost exactly what I've been trying to do with my home screen.
Can you post your rltoday skin?
will do soon, I was maybe gonna add a BT / Wifi switch to the left of the clock, and i think it is just over 80px, was probs gonna slim it down to 76px, so when you have a 2px gap above and below, you have used exactly 80px.
I am not sure about the clock also. With a 88:88 behind it to make it more like an LCD display or not? I also think I should maybe centre the clock propery (it's to the left) but it's like that in case the scrollbar comes up, so it doesn't overwrite the date. I suppose I could move the date to the left.
Talking of scrollbars, is it possible to make ultimatelaunch work so that if a page in the cube is too big to fit on the screen, it puts a scrollbar in (just in the cube bit of the screen, not down the whole side of the screen including the clock area) rather than making the cube bigger? I know you can limit the size of the cube, but this just makes anything that spills over get cut off.
New version Touch Commander 3.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375111
FYI, i am looking at abandoning rlToday for the clock as it does not handle screen rotation properly, which just wont do, I want to try and get everything looking *perfect*
I have started a new thread on this with info on the various issues. anyone looking to try and acheive the same interface, please pitch in there...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1999597
I released a version of this skin on the rlToday skins forum:
http://rotlaus-software.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1272
evilc said:
So I took the plunge yesterday and flashed my Kaiser with a custom ROM for the first time yesterday - Laurentius26's WM6.1 image, and I must say I am very pleased.
This has spurred me into trying to get my today screen *exactly* as I want it - I have tried various plugins but most seem to have too much (ie waste screen real estate) in them or too little.
I really like the Ultimate Launcher tabbed menu that comes with the ROM (I think it's a demo) for the gesture based tab switching with rotating cube effect, so I will probably stick with that.
I have done some mockups of what I want, and attached images to this post.
I want the top of the screen to be static, showing the time, date and the number of messages (ie SMS / MMS / Missed calls). I want the time quite big so you can glance at it whilst driving (No clock in car...). and before you say "Just use HTC home" - I do NOT want the tabs at the bottom of HTC home wasting screen space. I tried HHC, but you cannot set the number of tabs to 0 to remove the tabs alltogether.
The bottom half of the screen I want variable depending on which Ultimate Launcher (UL) tab I am on.
I want an "Apps" tab for quick launches. I bought SPB pocket plus which has an excellent app launcher, I will use that.
I want a "Media" tab with something like the HTC audio manager plugin capable of showing current track along with play/pause controls etc. I think this should be easy to do, I just need a player app with a today screen plugin.
I want a "Mail" tab with a list (ie preview) of latest emails / SMSs etc. Not sure what to use here, i own SPB diary as part of a bundle but this seems a bit overkill for this.
I want a "Boarding" tab for when I am planning riding activities for the weekend. (See image #2). For this, ideally I want a quick contacts bit at the top so I can one touch call my riding buddies and a weather strip below to see if it is worth riding this weekend
I need help with this bit - anyone know a quick contact list plugin like the tab from HTC home? Also, ultimate launcher will only allow you to specify one plugin for each tab, when I want two for this tab (Contacts and weather) - so I will need a plugin that can hold multiple plugins on a page and then specify that plugin as the one for the Boarding tab in ultimate launcher. SPB today does this, so I could maybe use that, unless I want to use SPB today in another tab as you can only use each plugin once.
So... suggestions are needed for:
Clock like the big one for HTC home (Found one or two, but none seem to show it just right like the HTC home one - big time with small date)
SMS / MMS / Missed calls / Voicemails counter like the one from HTC home - Does anyone know an app that lists waiting voicemails? Or is this info not available to the OS?
A quick contacts page like the one from the HTC home tab.
A today plugin that can accept other today plugins.
Any ideas?
TIA
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Today screen on Wizard using cLaunch plugin. cLaunch categories color coded by my choosing.
The bottom bar is still intact. Cut off due to size of pic.
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hotdog53 said:
Today screen on Wizard using cLaunch plugin. cLaunch categories color coded by my choosing.
The bottom bar is still intact. Cut off due to size of pic.
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A couple I omitted. The yellow cog wheel is the cLaunch settings iicon.
hotdog53 said:
A couple I omitted. The yellow cog wheel is the cLaunch settings iicon.
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The right ones.
Hi all,
WM newbie here... just bought a Diamond2....
So far I've found the HTC Home UI to be way more useful than HTC Sense - sure Sense has the cool gfx, but to do much on the default Sense front page, one always has to scroll around to different pages -unlike my near-default HTC Home that has my skype, PocketInformant, power/mem/etc indicators, msg-notifier, togglers for BT/Wifi/3G, and myriad of other shortcuts etc... ALL on the one page - its brilliant, though clearly yesterdays technology (ie. its been phased out).
So, I've been hunting around looking for info about ways to customise HTC Sense, via plugins be they already included or separately downloadable, but sofar, I've found nothing. Am i missing something here? Or is this just bleeding-edge stuff that I have to wait for? I can't even see anywhere that one can customise the info shown on the main Sense screen.
Personally, I find Sense's slideable menu thing at the bottom of the screen to be overly cumbersome - I want to click directly (ok, perhaps after 1-2 other clicks) on an icon to load something, not scroll along a list of gfx icons that somewhat forces me to go back and forwards trying to find the icon of interest.
Thoughts?
Hi everyone
I have my HD2 and i have to say it is superb.
I have looked everywhere and i cannot see any mods to give the HD2 a classic look on the homescreen. i.e remove the program shorcuts from beneath the clock and enable the old program tab along the bottom.
The large screen is so superb and it is a bit too busy and hides the magnificence of a great wallpaper.
also it would be nice if everyone put in one thread all the personalisation mods that work for them from the HD as well as new ones.
I have tried several of them that used to work on my cooked HD roms but now do not on my HD2.
Thinks like tranparent clocks and i would love to have a transparent top taskbar leaving just the icons floating and bottom bar where the menu and phone shorcuts are with out having to install complete theme chager which tweak too many things.
If anyone can help that would be great
go to settings click menu click more than there is a option home screen
there u can ad your classic stuf and dissable htc sence or enable new WM 6.5 home screen. i hope u can find it
grz.
Settings> Today> Items - remove hooks with "HTC Sense"
I think he's asking for a more TouchFLO look, rather than a Sense UI.
I think you're gonna have to wait a while mate. A lot of the customisations that we thought of as normal on the HD simply aren't available yet on the HD2.
I was the same - my HD was modded like mad, but the HD2 is more like it was out of the box. It took a while, but I'm now very used to the Sense UI, and would feel lost without the functionality that I've gained from that extra clutter.
Have a look at the Sense tweaks and mods thread. That has some good stuff in it, but not as much as you're looking for, yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to me.
Xinyo i couldnt quite follow your instructions
and Soverign 35 that dosent work either.
However JohnC your are exactly right. It is the classic touch flo look that i am looking for. i would love to have the option to remove the program shorcuts from the homescreen and have the program tab back along the bottom and practically everthing transparent on the home screen.
Maybe htc could give us the option of the classic touchflo look or the htc sense look. in the next rom update. in the mean time all tweaks would be welcome
Just want the classic look on the HD2 too
I have two problems that stop me getting what I want which I ran on my TyTn II perfectly well. HTC in their infinite wisdom have removed the SMS entries from messaging and thus from the messaging today screen plugin. Secondly as they have also removed the task bar options I cannot set either get it in the top right hand corner of the screen or set the X button to close apps rather than just minimise them. Any ideas how I can re-enable these please?
I am more than happy to disable the cluttered SenseUI nonsense. Having SenseUI as an option is one thing, having it forced on you as a result of not being able to do things in the standard interface because HTC have removed them is another. The whole point of Windows Mobile is it's customisability and HTC have managed to break this!
Hy Guys....
just a quick question to all Manilla Chefs out there....
i had the idea to edit the Manilla, when its possible, to get a Sliding Manilla...
i mean if you look at the iPhone, when you drag the Screnns to the side the next Screenwill smoothly slide in...
in Manilla, whipping with the finger on the screen just manilla jumps to the next page...
i think it shouldn't be the Problem to get the pages too slide, the bottom slider did the trick allready... just want this "goodie" on the hole manilla...
and i doenst need to get the greyed out and big tab Icons while sliding...
hope you understand what i mean...
just an idea but someone has some ideas or knowledge to did this trick!
I remember when the Diamond and Manila 1.0 first came out, there was an animation each time you changed tabs in Manila. It was deacticated later since it was way too slow and people wanted their TF3D experience fast and snappy.
its not very handy to have the slide function as per iphone as:
say you want to go to the second last page, the mannilla scroll bar allows to get there in a single controlled swype but if you had the page scroll like the iphone you would have to scroll through each page or scroll backwards (if its possible) to get to that page.
the point im trying to make is the iphone scroll may well look pretty but the single swipe manilla scroll bar is far more efficient! ask yoursel, is it usefull?
I understand that it wouldn't work very well if it were like the iPhone. Personally I would just like to see the animation back like it was when the diamond came out, I know it was slow then but surly out snapdragon should lap it up now?......
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
hey correct me if i'm wrong...
the 3d slide effects only happens on diamond when clicking a tab...
when sliding the figer over the tab bar it is like in sense 2.5 ... big curtain with big tab icon will apear??
futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Thats it, I want that back!! Looks so much slicker!!
hey again... i found something...
it wasent a tweak what disabled it...
it was htc himself...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2576833
tnyynt said:
No, fading effects were removed in latest updates to speed up transitions.
It's not due to tweaks, it's due to ROM update.
To get them back install older version of Manila with fade effects.
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but maybe its possible to get the animation back....
I agree, i think it looks crap when you swipe and tap and a tab and there is no animation. If it faded or slide it would be much better. Even the old style was really nice. I think it actually makes it feel more responsive too because its doing a animation while the page loads
futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Looks pretty slick! I'd like that back too.
Have a try with MaxManila 2.5 v 2.7 Main beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551489
This gives you the possibility to swype from page to page (from left to right or vice versa).
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
body85 said:
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
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the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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........ok so u can slide without with from tab to tab... but the thread means a SLIDING ANIMATION...
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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ok doesn't really understand what you mean...
i can also swipe without maxmanilla without using the tabslider from page to page!!
just wipe obe the main aera...
what we want to get is an animation between the page slides...
dooing this now just jumps from one page to the other... not nice, and it feels and looks like a bit rough ... not as smooth as iphone did this... and i think the smoothnes factor that many iphones users evertime despite is this sluggish hopping page changing in manilla....
Microsoft did it a way better in the new 6.5 Starmenu... just look great and give a good feel...
also the Tab Slides is "animated" like we wannt... why HTC didn't do that onthe "mainpages" ???
loomx said:
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
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maybe yes...
its a starting point to look into an old cab and looks what manilla files did there...
but i'm far away from knowing the manilla depths that we need to implement them...
maybe one of the manilla gurus out there do the trick for us poor people
it would be so nice... if we can slide to the half...hold...and back... like in Iphone Today or Mobile Shell....
I realize there is no such thing as the "best" ROM, so I'll put it this way - what do you recommend as the ROM that most fits these needs:
Phone: Verizon Touch Pro with 6.5 pro
Wants:
- rock solid
- home screen able to show:
time
date
upcoming meetings
missed calls
voicemail yes/no
Number of messages in each mailbox
(Think about the info WinMo 6.1's home screen had, all at one glance)- Some sort of regular list Start menu, several favorites, the rest in "all programs" or a folder - 6.5's honeycomb SUCKS. Icons or words are fine, but the ability to arrange icons by alpha is just common sense, isn't it?
- Would like to keep the Opera that can use the hardware zoom bar.
- can't lose alarm clock (but more than the built in 3 would be welcome)
- can't lose MS Exchange push email.
- Sense/touch flo/Iphone type flick and scroll not needed. Actually would prefer a more exact thing like tabs, scroll bars, buttons.
- The built in Windows media player is fine with me
- The flippy clock on Sense's home screen is a pain in the ass - I don't mind the look but just show the damn current time, don't back up and hour and some to try to impress me with the animated flip forward to the real time.
- LOVE the slide to answer
- Don't care if it looks flashy or slick, just utility. A pretty hammer is fine, but not if it makes it harder to drive nails.
Any one care to share their thoughts?
jbrady33 said:
I realize there is no such thing as the "best" ROM, so I'll put it this way - what do you recommend as the ROM that most fits these needs:
Phone: Verizon Touch Pro with 6.5 pro
Wants:
- rock solid
- home screen able to show:
time
date
upcoming meetings
missed calls
voicemail yes/no
Number of messages in each mailbox
(Think about the info WinMo 6.1's home screen had, all at one glance)- Some sort of regular list Start menu, several favorites, the rest in "all programs" or a folder - 6.5's honeycomb SUCKS. Icons or words are fine, but the ability to arrange icons by alpha is just common sense, isn't it?
- Would like to keep the Opera that can use the hardware zoom bar.
- can't lose alarm clock (but more than the built in 3 would be welcome)
- can't lose MS Exchange push email.
- Sense/touch flo/Iphone type flick and scroll not needed. Actually would prefer a more exact thing like tabs, scroll bars, buttons.
- The built in Windows media player is fine with me
- The flippy clock on Sense's home screen is a pain in the ass - I don't mind the look but just show the damn current time, don't back up and hour and some to try to impress me with the animated flip forward to the real time.
- LOVE the slide to answer
- Don't care if it looks flashy or slick, just utility. A pretty hammer is fine, but not if it makes it harder to drive nails.
Any one care to share their thoughts?
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Build your own ROM using osKitchen. It is simple!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6608555&postcount=4