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stock messaging app required for other apps?

Hey guys. So I was in terminal deleting the stock apps that I don't need to have and one of those apps which I deleted was the stock messaging app, I did this because I was using hancent. Well now I am not receiving text messages.
- It all started after I deleted the stock app, I am not sure if it started immediately after or a while after.
- I was using handcent and I noticed that I was getting the pop up received thing and the quick reply option but in the actual handcent app under each conversation the incoming message was not there.
- I then switched to chomp sms to see if that would fix it. Now I am not getting the quick reply popup message received (in chomp)
Are there any suggestions to fix this or knowledge about this topic? Do you need to have the stock messaging app inorder to have other messaging apps work correctly. Oh ya, outgoing messages are still being sent correctly.

Sorry guys wrong section I wanted to post in q n a

Yes it is needed for other apps, that is why they have you turn off Messaging's notifications- so they can give them to you instead. They just read what messaging gets, they don't actually get the messages

[Resolved] Handcent or GO SMS?

Which one is better for u guys?
Right now I have handcent but want to kno what others think bout GO SMS.
Thank you in advance.
Sent from my G2

i use Go SMS. i have used handcent as well, except there are some annoyances i have with it. handcent seems to lag my phone more and isn't as smooth. also, when you have the pop up option on in handcent, the pop up comes up and there's a stretched background that you can't seem to change, maybe thats just me. its always that venice street looking default background. honestly try both, i reverted back to go sms. actually go sms runs in apps with only 44.0KB compared to handcent's 2.09 on mine

Go is much smoother on my phone also. Definately my fav.

Go sms it is.
Sent from my G2

Go SMS. Much smaller and smoother than Handcent.

I am trying GO SMS for the first time, I am a long time handcent user (since I bought my moment and hated its SMS app a few years back).
Anyway, just installed. First impression is it is quick. Feels lots faster than handcent on my epic (midnight 2.9 rom + ext4).
Only issue I have is, it doesn't show all the contact pictures. They come from facebook linking. Handcent displayed them with no issues. Guess it isn't a deal breaker. Just would be nice, now that I have become used to them being there.
B+

Been using the GO SMS n it just feels cleaner to me.
Sent from my G2

GO SMS!
IT's much faster on my HDH & I much prefer the GUI.
Try them both and see for yourself.
I vote GO though!

Go sms is faster than Hancent ..

itsxiao said:
actually go sms runs in apps with only 44.0KB compared to handcent's 2.09 on mine
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What app do you use to see how many KBs it uses while running?
Has anyone had issues with not receiving MMS from others using GO SMS? My cousin uses GO but when he sends me pics/videos/music, I never get it. When he sends via Handcent they go through just fine.

newark_b said:
What app do you use to see how many KBs it uses while running?
Has anyone had issues with not receiving MMS from others using GO SMS? My cousin uses GO but when he sends me pics/videos/music, I never get it. When he sends via Handcent they go through just fine.
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I get the sme problem with mms.
I get mms through stock msg fine.
Sent from my G2

Handcent sms
After testing both, definately using Gosms

GO SMS for me too

i've recently had a bug with gosms but i do like it better

I've been a Handcent user for a long time, but it has been a lot of delay to open D:
Now i'm using and it is very smooth and light. Unfortunately, it doesn't show my contacts pictures and in Handcent show up, no issues.
Someone has this issue or it is really a Go SMS problem?
Thanks!

Handscent. Like the ability to change themes, full customization.

my GoSMS shows the contact pictures from my google contacts just fine. add a pic to contact using gmail contacts on a computer. then allow the phone to sync. send that person a txt to see if it shows the picture. i also have sim contacts disabled, and no facebook stuff going on. hope that helps

handcent is like bloatware. I went with 1 year for it before I found Go. WAY BETTER. GoSMS all the way.

used handcent for a while, now i m playing with gosms... smoother, some fine animation and a lot more reliable through some advanced settings so GOSMS, does the trick

Go SMS for me. I tried handscent and was annoyed by the ads when you have an internet connection. Another is Go SMS's interface is much cleaner than handscent.

Textra SMS Simple Beautiful Fast

I've using this apps as an alternative from stock sms and it's simply fast and nice ui there's no harm to try it's free from Google Playstore

Was considering installing this. I use goSMS but it has become a major bloatware app.
Sent from my Carbonized Infuse S4.

xxxSuperserieSxxx said:
I've using this apps as an alternative from stock sms and it's simply fast and nice ui there's no harm to try it's free from Google Playstore
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I like it so far but am afraid I may have to give up on it until it matures a bit more. I am experiencing two problems with it. 1. MMS messages are not going through (I even entered all the manual settings for MMS APN as suggested by developer). 2. When I try to send a picture, it rotates the image 90 degrees counter clockwise. As soon as I can get MMS working on AT&T w/Galaxy s4 I will update this post.

Might note that it's not available on 2.3.6 GB.

Been using it for a few days now. Its fast and simple but still very much in its infancy. Very bland as a texting app but I see the potential of this app becoming great as long as it remains slim. Looking forward to when customization will be added.
Sent from my Carbonized Infuse S4.

go sms pro vs textra sms vs sliding messaging pro?
which is better at present

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Textra is good its made by ChompSMS people.

I love Textra texting app and for the most part it has been great, but as of recent I have not been able to send MMS anymore. I can do so via Hangouts, but not through Textra anymore.

A simple word of advice for fellow Textra users. After you enter the MMS APN settings, reboot your phone and MMS will work again.
EDIT: When I first installed it, I couldn't get MMS to work same as you guys. So I uninstalled and went back to Hangouts. But I figured this was a long shot. I installed again, ran my APN settings in, and sent a MMS group text and it continually failed. I rebooted phone, and bam it resent successfully and all MMS afterwards went through.

4.4.2 using messaging when it's not default sms app

Pretty much title. I am using Textsecure but my wife's phone has issues accepting picture messages through textsecure while it's encrypted so I was going to send pictures via messaging but even adjusting the app ops settings messaging is still saying it's not allowed because it's not the default sms app. Anyway around this?

Veight said:
Pretty much title. I am using Textsecure but my wife's phone has issues accepting picture messages through textsecure while it's encrypted so I was going to send pictures via messaging but even adjusting the app ops settings messaging is still saying it's not allowed because it's not the default sms app. Anyway around this?
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what device do you own? on my moto x i am able to go to settings, from there go to the "More" option right under data usage and try seeing if there is a option to change the Default SMS app, should be 2nd option. if you need any more help ill be more than happy to help you out!

Trozzul said:
what device do you own? on my moto x i am able to go to settings, from there go to the "More" option right under data usage and try seeing if there is a option to change the Default SMS app, should be 2nd option. if you need any more help ill be more than happy to help you out!
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Thanks, but what I was looking for is a way to send messages with Messaging when it's NOT the Default SMS app. I want all of my texts going in to Textsecure and be able to send pictures with Messaging. But when Messaging isn't the Default SMS app, it doesn't allow you to send messages. Even if I give it permission in App Ops. :\

Veight said:
Thanks, but what I was looking for is a way to send messages with Messaging when it's NOT the Default SMS app. I want all of my texts going in to Textsecure and be able to send pictures with Messaging. But when Messaging isn't the Default SMS app, it doesn't allow you to send messages. Even if I give it permission in App Ops. :\
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not sure if you can use the two at the same time then.

Trozzul said:
not sure if you can use the two at the same time then.
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Nope. You can only use 1 at a time.

[Q] MMS in Apps other than Hangouts

Hello all,
For starters, some preliminaries:
ROM: ViperRom 3.2.1
Firmware: Latest (4.4.4)
Kernel, radios: Stock
Has anyone been having trouble with group MMS beyond the Hangouts app? The Hangouts app works like silk when it comes to group MMS - I can send/receive to all my friends (regardless of whether they have a smartphone or cell phone), it can play GIFs within the thread and it doesn't deliver messages at the wrong time (a 5:09pm message gets delivered before a 5:06 pm message). The problem with Hangouts is that it is slow and has odd kinks that drive me insane (when you send a message it doesn't show it unless you exit and reenter the message thread, three second delay to display contact when searching for number). The glaring issue is that it is an app that I simply do not use for it's native purpose - which is to create Hangouts and not use SMS. Nobody I know uses Hangouts, so I only use it for SMS.
I have tried literally every SMS app there is - Handcent, GOSMS, 8SMS, Hello, Textra, ChompSMS, Evolve SMS, Messaging (stock KitKat modified), HTC Messaging.
These apps all have a consistent problem - I cannot communicate with my cell phone friends in group chats. They receive blank messages and cannot read my replies. I've tried modifiying my APN but I am unable to create a new profile in Settings>Networks>APN. This is honestly strange to me because Hangouts works so flawlessly compared to all these other apps. Any suggestions?

genheals said:
Hello all,
For starters, some preliminaries:
ROM: ViperRom 3.2.1
Firmware: Latest (4.4.4)
Kernel, radios: Stock
Has anyone been having trouble with group MMS beyond the Hangouts app? The Hangouts app works like silk when it comes to group MMS - I can send/receive to all my friends (regardless of whether they have a smartphone or cell phone), it can play GIFs within the thread and it doesn't deliver messages at the wrong time (a 5:09pm message gets delivered before a 5:06 pm message). The problem with Hangouts is that it is slow and has odd kinks that drive me insane (when you send a message it doesn't show it unless you exit and reenter the message thread, three second delay to display contact when searching for number). The glaring issue is that it is an app that I simply do not use for it's native purpose - which is to create Hangouts and not use SMS. Nobody I know uses Hangouts, so I only use it for SMS.
I have tried literally every SMS app there is - Handcent, GOSMS, 8SMS, Hello, Textra, ChompSMS, Evolve SMS, Messaging (stock KitKat modified), HTC Messaging.
These apps all have a consistent problem - I cannot communicate with my cell phone friends in group chats. They receive blank messages and cannot read my replies. I've tried modifiying my APN but I am unable to create a new profile in Settings>Networks>APN. This is honestly strange to me because Hangouts works so flawlessly compared to all these other apps. Any suggestions?
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Have you tried Verizon Message+ ? That is what I am using and works well for me. I'm usually not a fan of Verizon Software, but the messaging app has a lot of options and doesn't seam to lag.

jsaxon2 said:
Have you tried Verizon Message+ ? That is what I am using and works well for me. I'm usually not a fan of Verizon Software, but the messaging app has a lot of options and doesn't seam to lag.
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I tried that app. Super clunky, definitely looking for a better alternative.

Interesting.
I have been running Viper also ( until yesterday actually).
I have been using Handcent and group messaging seems to work fine. At least no one has told me otherwise.
I do notice, with Handcent that from time to time SMS/mms messages seem to get hung up for quite a few minutes( see the spinning wheel next to message). I always though that was a network issue. You have me thinking otherwise now..
I have never tried hangouts for SMS. I might give it a whirl.

genheals said:
I tried that app. Super clunky, definitely looking for a better alternative.
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Super clunky, okay. That's one way to describe it. lol. But did it work for group messaging? Have you tried a different rom? Viper is an international rom that has changes made for Verizon to work. Maybe there is a setting or library missing from Viper. Have you asked in that thread to see if anyone else has the same issues on Verizon?

jsaxon2 said:
Super clunky, okay. That's one way to describe it. lol. But did it work for group messaging? Have you tried a different rom? Viper is an international rom that has changes made for Verizon to work. Maybe there is a setting or library missing from Viper. Have you asked in that thread to see if anyone else has the same issues on Verizon?
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I used CleanRom before this...really have no interest in switching ROMs but I see what you mean about it being international. I always had used Hangouts without compliant but it took a serious speed hit when it got updated/I updated to Viper

Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.
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I recently discovered this app. Love it, its like what the new google messaging app should have been.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.
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+1 on Textra. I had group messaging problems too until this app. There is an option under settings to use MMS for group messaging. I think it's off by default. Try switching it on and see how it goes. It fixed my probs, particularly when texting to/from iDevices.
Sent from my Gunmetal Grey M8

Does textra have gif support in the message threads?

madzozs said:
Does textra have gif support in the message threads?
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Looks like it does. Successfully sent and received one.
Sent from my Gunmetal Grey M8

Textra does not work on Viper, tried that one as well

genheals said:
Textra does not work on Viper, tried that one as well
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UPDATE: Some of the issues I have were actually due to me disabling animations in Developer Settings. Once I re-enabled animations, the issues with Hangouts "hanging" at the second to last message, rather then displaying my newly sent message, went away. The app also seems much smoother on the whole. I guess that disabling animations is a bigger detriment than benefit when it comes to Hangouts.
I still have the same group MMS issues in apps other than Hangout (people with basic feature phones only receive blank lines, rather than text). Hangouts remains the only texting app that works flawlessly with group MMS. It's a shame, because Textra is such a beautiful app.