Hey guys. So I was in terminal deleting the stock apps that I don't need to have and one of those apps which I deleted was the stock messaging app, I did this because I was using hancent. Well now I am not receiving text messages.
- It all started after I deleted the stock app, I am not sure if it started immediately after or a while after.
- I was using handcent and I noticed that I was getting the pop up received thing and the quick reply option but in the actual handcent app under each conversation the incoming message was not there.
- I then switched to chomp sms to see if that would fix it. Now I am not getting the quick reply popup message received (in chomp)
Are there any suggestions to fix this or knowledge about this topic? Do you need to have the stock messaging app inorder to have other messaging apps work correctly. Oh ya, outgoing messages are still being sent correctly.
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Yes it is needed for other apps, that is why they have you turn off Messaging's notifications- so they can give them to you instead. They just read what messaging gets, they don't actually get the messages
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My evo is rooted and with the app Root Explorer I can go and and delete any app on my phone. Since I have Handcent can I delete the stock messaging app and not have any issues? Or does Handcent rely on the stock app to function correctly?
Sorry if this has been asked but searching here turned up nothing
dcwiker05 said:
My evo is rooted and with the app Root Explorer I can go and and delete any app on my phone. Since I have Handcent can I delete the stock messaging app and not have any issues? Or does Handcent rely on the stock app to function correctly?
Sorry if this has been asked but searching here turned up nothing
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Handcent as well as any other 3rd party messaging app relies on the stock messaging app to function correctly. If you remove the stock app you won't get any messages anymore.
c00ller said:
Handcent as well as any other 3rd party messaging app relies on the stock messaging app to function correctly. If you remove the stock app you won't get any messages anymore.
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I know HTC made some heavy modifications, but if they didn't block the SmsManager.class in android.telephony then Handcent should work fine without the stock messaging app.
I've removed the sms app from my Droid once HandCent was installed and it works beautifully.
Can't hurt to try, copy the files somewhere safe, though, just in case.
_Schizm_ said:
I know HTC made some heavy modifications, but if they didn't block the SmsManager.class in android.telephony then Handcent should work fine without the stock messaging app.
I've removed the sms app from my Droid once HandCent was installed and it works beautifully.
Can't hurt to try, copy the files somewhere safe, though, just in case.
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I suggest you double check your method of testing, without the stock messaging app, Handcent can not send or receive MMS. It'll do SMS just fine, but no picture, video or audio.
To the OP, if you don't use MMS, then by all means go ahead an uninstall the stock messaging app; but if you still want the ability to send and receive any type of multimedia messages, then leave it be.
ZeroBarrier said:
I suggest you double check your method of testing, without the stock messaging app, Handcent can not send or receive MMS. It'll do SMS just fine, but no picture, video or audio.
To the OP, if you don't use MMS, then by all means go ahead an uninstall the stock messaging app; but if you still want the ability to send and receive any type of multimedia messages, then leave it be.
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Dang I use MMS SO guess I cant. Thanks everyone
Thanks guys, I needed this answer as I thought things were working well with the stock messaging app deleted..that was until I couldn't download mms. Everything running smoothly again.
Handcent does have the capability to send and receive sms and mms. I had partly helped test a few builds during a trouble shooting. But it isn't 100% it seems to work at first then stop. There is an option for it much like gosms in the settings. Btw, I have the stock app frozen and I get sms/mms just fine
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Every time I have ever deleted the stock mms.apk then moms stops working on Handcent. But every phone is a little different. Back up the apk and remove it and if it gives ya trouble restore the backup.
I've never had a problem sending/receiving MMS with Handcent as my main/deleting MMS.apk. This is over a few different phones--Droid 1, EVO 4G, LG G2X, and my current SGSII (Tmo)
rather then delete just freeze. I use gosms and it's equipped with an option to be used if stock app is disabled or removed. I set that then freeze the stock app. works fine for me
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Hello all, this may be a basic android question but i am new to andriod (HTC Thunderbolt, unrooted). The messaging app has three tabs: All Messages, SMS/MMS, and Voicemail. I'm assuming the All Messages tab should show not just SMS/MMS but also emails at the very least but all I get there is SMS/MMS. I have had the Mail app set up and working, and also the Gmail app. Also I have FB and Twitter for HTC Sense both set up (not sure if those post should show up there or not. Is there a setting I'm missing or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Messages app? Trying to use the full functionality of the Thunderbolt. Thanks for your advice.
The all messages folder is supposed to show sms/mms as well as push messages and visual voicemail messages however I have yet to figure out how to get push messages or what services uses these
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Pretty much title. I am using Textsecure but my wife's phone has issues accepting picture messages through textsecure while it's encrypted so I was going to send pictures via messaging but even adjusting the app ops settings messaging is still saying it's not allowed because it's not the default sms app. Anyway around this?
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Pretty much title. I am using Textsecure but my wife's phone has issues accepting picture messages through textsecure while it's encrypted so I was going to send pictures via messaging but even adjusting the app ops settings messaging is still saying it's not allowed because it's not the default sms app. Anyway around this?
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what device do you own? on my moto x i am able to go to settings, from there go to the "More" option right under data usage and try seeing if there is a option to change the Default SMS app, should be 2nd option. if you need any more help ill be more than happy to help you out!
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what device do you own? on my moto x i am able to go to settings, from there go to the "More" option right under data usage and try seeing if there is a option to change the Default SMS app, should be 2nd option. if you need any more help ill be more than happy to help you out!
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Thanks, but what I was looking for is a way to send messages with Messaging when it's NOT the Default SMS app. I want all of my texts going in to Textsecure and be able to send pictures with Messaging. But when Messaging isn't the Default SMS app, it doesn't allow you to send messages. Even if I give it permission in App Ops. :\
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Thanks, but what I was looking for is a way to send messages with Messaging when it's NOT the Default SMS app. I want all of my texts going in to Textsecure and be able to send pictures with Messaging. But when Messaging isn't the Default SMS app, it doesn't allow you to send messages. Even if I give it permission in App Ops. :\
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not sure if you can use the two at the same time then.
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not sure if you can use the two at the same time then.
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Nope. You can only use 1 at a time.
When I use Google assistant to send a message it randomly doesn't record the message in the text app. The recipient receives it ok but it doesn't show up.
I've tried about 10 other SMS apps they're the same.
Is there a problem with Huaweis app that Google assistant can't access? Any help please?
applehater00 said:
When I use Google assistant to send a message it randomly doesn't record the message in the text app. The recipient receives it ok but it doesn't show up.
I've tried about 10 other SMS apps they're the same.
Is there a problem with Huaweis app that Google assistant can't access? Any help please?
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Not sure.. but with all Google apps I give them full control/permission and allow secondary launch etc.
Give that a try
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Permissions are all granted. What do you mean secondary launch? You mean try a different launcher?
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do you mean that during recording the text doesn't show up , but once you leave the record button it goes to the recipient instantly without the ability to check it or what ? a pic might help as i didn't understand much
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Hello
do you mean that during recording the text doesn't show up , but once you leave the record button it goes to the recipient instantly without the ability to check it or what ? a pic might help as i didn't understand much
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Ah ok no it's simpler than that. Speech to text etc works fine.
The outgoing message does not appear in the messages or text app. For some reason Google assistant understands the speech and sends the text, but doesn't communicate with the SMS app to say "this is what I just sent so stick it in the convo list". Seems to bypass the SMS app and I've tried about10 of them now. Same problem each time.
I think it's confirmijg what I always thought i.e. android is a perpetually buggy unfinished system!
Hello again
-not sure - maybe these command may work
“Show me my messages”
also why not trying to check the messages with Hangouts that may help
Appreciate you trying to help.
The issue is that the outgoing messages don't show up at all when done from GA. In any app. Show me my messages whilst it might work is not an adequate solution as I shouldn't have to speak that into GA to see my full convos. That's what the apps are for.
BUT your suggestion was brilliant because I tried that and it shows received messages only (which isn't the issue).
So then I tried to say "show me my SENT messages" and surprisingly it did manage to show just the messages I'd sent BUT BIZARRELY IT MISSES OUT ANY MESSAGES SENT BY G.A.. !!????
So in summary it looks as though it sends messages fine but doesn't record it anywhere. When asked to tell me what it has sent it then seems to search the stock apps (that it doesn't communicate TO) and gives me that info only. So even GA doesn't know what it's sent ! Wtf??
(Hangouts doesn't seem to do SMS)
"The Assistant only uses Messenger as the outgoing source for SMS when Hangouts is the default. If you look in messenger you will see the text that you sent through the assistant. It is a bit defeatest from the standpoint of the Fi Hangouts integration and the team is aware."
this is from google forums and yes Hangouts show outgoing msgs
By messenger they mean what? Many apps seem to think they're called messenger.
As for hangouts it does nothing. Showing up only 4 convos and none of them are SMS convos. I've looked and looked and there is no option to integrate SMS into hangouts. I've given it all permissions too.
Are we on the same version of Mate 9 ? Am I missing something?
Open the Hangouts app .
At the top, tap Menu Menu.
Tap Settings and thenSMS and then SMS enabled.
Select the text messaging app you want as the default.
try this
I suspect we have different versions of hangouts. No such options in mine anywhere
``Show me my hangouts sms messages`` may help out a bit
i think also facebook messenger can help as it can read sms check it
-Hope- said:
``Show me my hangouts sms messages`` may help out a bit
i think also facebook messenger can help as it can read sms check it
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nope my hangouts does nothing. doesnt support sms at all
fb messenger is evil, doesn't it drain masses of battery?
please change the message app to what you want to use and try again steps:
in your settings search for Default app settings then, change sms app, i think the default would be hangouts.
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please change the message app to what you want to use and try again steps:
in your settings search for Default app settings then, change sms app, i think the default would be hangouts.
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Thanks but despite having hangouts installed the only messaging app that comes up as an option is the stock Huawei message app. Hangouts isn't listed. There is also no setting anywhere within hangouts to use SMS. Our versions must be different. I have the latest version.
My bad, hangouts lost the integration long time ago :/
However did you but I want your to check the fb it it can detect the assistant out going messages, or else, if you didn't try Android Messages app please check it might help.
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My bad, hangouts lost the integration long time ago :/
However did you but I want your to check the fb it it can detect the assistant out going messages, or else, if you didn't try Android Messages app please check it might help.
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I thought the android messenger ap which is the one they want us to use now might work, but it sadly doesn't.
I'll trial it with facebook and let you know soon,
Thanks again for your efforts trying to help me out :good:
I'll try my best
Nope FB messenger doesn't record the outgoing text either. Huge flaw in Google assistant!!
I think they fixed it in latest update
When I'm sending or receiving a text using the stock messages app, the entire message doesn't show if the message is long. It cuts down the message and has a "view all" button that will show the whole message in another page. How do I get it back to showing the entire message without having to use the "view all" button?
Unfortunately the stock Samsung messaging app doesn't have a setting to change this. You'd have to install a 3rd party messaging app instead. If you have Facebook Messenge, you can integrate SMS into that.
super annoying functionality.
frogomas7 said:
Unfortunately the stock Samsung messaging app doesn't have a setting to change this. You'd have to install a 3rd party messaging app instead. If you have Facebook Messenge, you can integrate SMS into that.
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This view all, does not make sense to me, why would any consumer want that, and not be able to change it is even worse. I like to keep my messages separate within their apps. I don't to integrate my messenger with my sms. boo.