[Q] Message app - Thunderbolt General

Hello all, this may be a basic android question but i am new to andriod (HTC Thunderbolt, unrooted). The messaging app has three tabs: All Messages, SMS/MMS, and Voicemail. I'm assuming the All Messages tab should show not just SMS/MMS but also emails at the very least but all I get there is SMS/MMS. I have had the Mail app set up and working, and also the Gmail app. Also I have FB and Twitter for HTC Sense both set up (not sure if those post should show up there or not. Is there a setting I'm missing or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Messages app? Trying to use the full functionality of the Thunderbolt. Thanks for your advice.

The all messages folder is supposed to show sms/mms as well as push messages and visual voicemail messages however I have yet to figure out how to get push messages or what services uses these
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stock messaging app required for other apps?

Hey guys. So I was in terminal deleting the stock apps that I don't need to have and one of those apps which I deleted was the stock messaging app, I did this because I was using hancent. Well now I am not receiving text messages.
- It all started after I deleted the stock app, I am not sure if it started immediately after or a while after.
- I was using handcent and I noticed that I was getting the pop up received thing and the quick reply option but in the actual handcent app under each conversation the incoming message was not there.
- I then switched to chomp sms to see if that would fix it. Now I am not getting the quick reply popup message received (in chomp)
Are there any suggestions to fix this or knowledge about this topic? Do you need to have the stock messaging app inorder to have other messaging apps work correctly. Oh ya, outgoing messages are still being sent correctly.
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Yes it is needed for other apps, that is why they have you turn off Messaging's notifications- so they can give them to you instead. They just read what messaging gets, they don't actually get the messages

[Q] Do you get unread counters on mail shortcuts?

Hi All,
Using the standard HTC mail app and have 2 email accounts setup - both google apps accounts using IMAP.
On my home screen I have 2 shortcuts, one for each mailbox - on previous phones (desire, hero) these shortcuts used to show a "badge" with the number of unread emails in the mailbox. I don't get this on my Sensation no matter how many unread emails there are in the mailboxes.
I can't find an option to enable this anywhere, so has it been taken out, or is it just not working?
Before I go down the route of a factory reset, could you let me know if you get unread mail badges on your mailbox shortcuts...
Thanks
I only have the general Mail icon, not a shortcut to an individual Inbox since I'm using only one Emailaddress on my mobile. That Icon shows the number of unread messages. Not sure if that's what you'd want, it would probably show you the sum of unread messages form both accounts.
Ideally I'd like the individual count like previous phones. Just noticed I don't get an unread count on sms either (htc sms and go sms). Thinking it might be a problem with sense...
fourfoot said:
Ideally I'd like the individual count like previous phones. Just noticed I don't get an unread count on sms either (htc sms and go sms). Thinking it might be a problem with sense...
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THAT sounds bad. I definitely get SMS count on the default icon... I'd try a reset if I were you.
Did a factory reset, still the same. Weird.
I guess I can live with it for now - makes it look like I have no work to do
Weirdly they started working today... I now get the unread counters and didn't change anything.
Under settings - accounts and sync, u can configure the syncing of specific gmail email app.
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I use the GMail app and the icon doesn't show a thing for me. I have a widget for the lockscreen that has email counts and that's accurate so its odd that the pre-loaded gmail app won't be displaying unread counts

[Q] cant change default sms app to google voice or others

when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
kellybrf said:
when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
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8SMS from the Play Store works.
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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The developer of the app has to update the app to 4.4 comparability to add that feature. I am using Textra and I really like it.
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Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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akenis said:
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
expertzero1 said:
Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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well damn, knowing Google the all well never be updated
kellybrf said:
thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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Well make up your mind! Before you said you wanted to use GV as your messaging app. Hence my advice before to pretty much ignore whatever you choose as default SMS app and just send/receive your text from within the GV app (Having selected "receive messages through GV app).
Now you're saying that you are trying to send messages from the default SMS app (hangouts). So what you are really saying is that you want to use a default SMS app (hangouts, or textra) and have the text go out your through your GV number? This is totally possible and what I am doing. Bear with me...
We have to understand the GV is NOT really SMS. It just intercepts SMS messages sent to your GV number and sends them to the GV app. These messages are coming to you phone through data, not the radio. Think of GV app operating in two different modes:
1) GV app can operate independently from your devices SMS (select "Via the GV app). You can send and receive messages from the GV app and they will use your GV number. None of these messages will be "forwarded" to the system app. In this scenario, you can also use the system app separately. Messages sent and received from the system default app wil not appear in the GV app, and will use your REAL phone number.
2) GV app can be used to relay these pseud SMS messages coming across your data to the default system app (select "via the messaging app"). In this case, messages sent to your GV number will appear in the GV app, and then be forwarded to the system app and use it's notification settings. Now this gets a little weird, but when this forwarding happens, the message received in the system app appears to come from an unknown phone number in some random area code. Not sure why... has something to do with the whole forwarding process. Luckily, if the real incomming number is in you contacts, then GV appends the contact name to the message. Now if you reply from within the GV app, it goes right back to the sender (no copy of your reply will appear in the system app, because you replied from within GV). If you reply from the system app, and that pseudo phone number... then it will forward back to the GV app (a copy will be there), translate back to the real phone number and send out the reply. And it will be from your GV number. The key is using that pseudo number that translates to the contacts real number. If YOU initiate a message from within the native app, then it just sends a regular SMS using your phones number, NOT your GV number (incidently, this is the only way to send MMS as of now, so you just have to tell the recepient to use the real phone number for pics). When I first figured this out, I used to just make sure that I always initiated the conversation from the GV app. The last neat trick is to save that pseudo number to the existing contact as either a pager (who uses those?) or a custom "pseudo GV" number. No you can initate the conversation from within the system app, and slect the pseudo number.... it will route to GV and appear to come from your GV number. If you use their real mobile number, it will appear to come from your actual phone number.
Clear as mud? Supposedly there are some changes coming to the way GV works. Lets hope they get this stuff a little more user friendly and allow SMS. Actually, I wouldn't mind just using the GV app if it didn't make multiple threads per contact. Good luck...
no, I want Google voice to be my one and only SMS app. on 4.3 and below, when I initiated a text from anywhere outside a messaging app it asked me what I wanted to use, Google voice or messaging or whatever SMS all I'd have installed. I'd get the use one or set as default dialog, and of i set as default gv would then handle all messaging.
with 4.4, when I initiate a text from outside an app it automatically goes through hangouts, and I cannot choose google voice as a default. if I want to send a text via gv, now I have to initiate it via gv. in the op I said I downloaded chomp and handcent just to see if I got the option to set them as a default, and of the 2 only handcent showed up one list. I think expertzero hit it, and Google just hasn't updated gv for 4.4 yet

WatchIt notification tips?

I successfully updated my Samsung Galaxy SIII from a 4.1.2 ROM (BoneStock 3.4) to a TW 4.3 ROM (Mother of All ROMs, aka MOAR 7.1). After a few tries (resetting watch, deleting and reinstalling apps, and pairing, unpairing, repairing watch and phone) I was successful at getting the phone and watch to play nice with each other. So I installed WatchIt, gave it permissions on notifications under security. And now WatchIt and the watch is getting notifications. All sorts of notifications... and lots of them.
So I know I can go into my phone, and change preferences and "toasts" (btw, what is the difference between a notification and toast? Are toasts when it tells you to choose a setting, like selecting Switftkey as your keyboard?). Before I mess things up, I thought I would ask the many experts here running WatchIt which apps you disabled notifications (and toasts... what ever they are)?
EDIT: Since there is a really long list of apps to decide whether to ignore, allow notifications, allow toasts, or allow both... is there a faster easier method, eg ignore all, then allowing notifications from just the list of apps or services desired? Sorry if this has been asked and answered already.
It also mentions DayDream as a way to configure... any info and guidance on this would be much appreciated! Also, any apps you think work really well with WatchIt (like... ways to get NBA, NFL, and MLB scores).
Many thanks in advance!!
And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.
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And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.
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You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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First ff, thanks for the reply. And yes, that makes sense, so I had Messaging, Gmail, and any other extension ignored and the only apps that it now receives notifications for is the stock Email app and the new Sports app. I will use the previous extensions I had successfully used when I was on the 4.1.2 ROM. I verified that text messages now go through and pop up on the watch.
I also tried an email... and that didn't. Will I receive the actual emails via WatchIt? If not, will switching to a different email client like K9 work? On the prior ROM, I had my "stock" (Comcast) emails go to my Gmail account, which then was seen by the watch. So worst case I can go back to that approach.
Will any of the notifications (eg from the new sports app) show up on the watch? Not just a "hey, you just got a notification from 365Sports", but the actual score of the game its reporting?
Again, thanks for the help!!
A later update. Seems I can now get email notifications from the phone to the watch via WatchIt... but they seem to come as a group of emails (three or four at a time), only the email title and sender. As such its not as useful as when I was getting my mail routed through Gmail.
And... it appears that the Gmail extension may not work with 4.3 (at least that is what one review of the app in Play Store said). So going from 4.1.2 to 4.3 in order to use WatchIt does not appear to have been a good move.
I will try switching to K9 as my email client and then try the K9 extension. That combo didn't work for me when I was on 4.1.2 (so I instead routed the email to Gmail).
Anyone running a 4.3 ROM and is using WatchIt to get emails via their "stock" Android email client? Any advice or steps I may be missing to get this to see emails? I hate to think I will need to go back to 4.1.2 after all this...
Gosh, this has been a struggle. The Gmail extension does work with my new 4.3 ROM. So here is the work around I came up with. Using Gmail to get the mail from my Comcast account, then it goes to a K9 account on my phone, then to the K9 extension. It appears to catch and display the email on my phone.
Still can't seem to get scores notifications from 365 Sports app.
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Anybody know how to fix the text wrap issue or another app that has that issue fixed
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Latest update... I seem to have gotten WatchIt to work. I have it delivering Sports 365 notifications to the watch (neat app, btw, as it includes a whistle on the phone notification). And, I am getting email notifications, including the full email but only if it only notifies on a single email. If multiple emails come in... they all get notified at once, and only a list of he emails.
Is there something I can do to force it to notify each email separately?
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Anyone else having issues with getting notifications when receiving SMS messages though voice?
I do not get a notification but if I open the app they auto populate and load and finally the voice notification when then show new messages. I switched the app to use the default messaging app and I get the notifications. If I go into the web interface and forward messages to email I get them as well. But the voice app it's self does not notify me of new messages? I know it works because my galaxy would get the notifications and I know background sync is on and running.
Any suggestions? (No root this is a work phone.)
I'd highly recommend you install and use Hangouts for your primary SMS app. The gVoice app is basically just a utility tool to get your gVoice integrated into your dialer and not really meant to be a fantastic SMS app.
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Hangouts is installed by default (at least on Verizon.) Appreciate the comment and thank you.

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