[Q] random screen protector Q (phantomskinz & skinomi) - Epic 4G Accessories

I'm excited to get a screen protector on my epic because...I already dropped it. I'm going to put on a Phantom skinz screen protector, which according to the instructions involves water and baby shampoo. I don't have any baby shampoo at the moment -- was hoping to use the skinomi application solution. Is there anything significant about either one? Is it just to ensure a tight seal and easy application (acting as a lubricant)? If so I guess there wouldn't be a problem to just use the Skinomi stuff...
I am cheap, lazy, don't feel like going to the nearest store to get baby shampoo, and get really excited when new products come in the mail. =P
TIA

You can use anything really. Invisible Shield, Skinomi, water and baby shampoo, water and dish soap, whatever. It just acts as a lubricant to keep it from sticking to you or the phone until it's set right.
So yes, you're fine with the skinomi stuff.

The Skinomi fluid is basically water. Adding a bit of soap helps with making it easier to move the skins around on the device.

thanks for the responses! overly paranoid about stuff...

jacjyd said:
thanks for the responses! overly paranoid about stuff...
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Yah it doesn't matter what you do some poeple even use drops of soap.
The one thing you want to watch out for is bubbles, as they ruin the application.
Baby oil works as well.

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Hate my InvisiShield!!

So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.
Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.
For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY
http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one
Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.
I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.
Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.
The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.
So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.
I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.
When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!
Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.
Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.
I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.
ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
jcohenlv said:
So here in Las Vegas there is a Zagg store. Based on everyone's recommendation I decided to get a Zagg InvisiShield for my phone. I picked up 2 or 3 of the demo phones and was like hey this doesn't feel stick or tacky like everyone said it would!
So i look at the prices:
Zagg Full Body Skin $21
Installation $12 includes free Zagg microfiber bag.
So I decided to say OK, Ill let them install it so if they screw something up they can fix it on the spot. The fate of my phone is in their hands. I go to the counter and they tell me come back in 30 minutes.
So i am roaming around the mall, spending money on other crap I don't need. 30 minutes later I go back and pick up my phone. The moment I pick it up i am like WTF! Phone feels like its wrapped in a used condom!
I ask the sales associate why it doesn't feel like the "demo" phone and he goes ohhh that's the wrong one out there. That phone was put out there to show all the scratches on it. I go grab the demo phone and go dude where are the scratches on this thing!! There were none I was FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
So needless to say I have this $40+ dollar Zagg POS on my phone and I am really hating it, but I cant bring myself to tear it off and lose my $40. I don't know what to do.
Things I immediately noticed for those of you who want to know what to expect from a Zagg InvisiShield.
1. Tacky Tacky Tacky - Phone feels like it wrapped in a used condom
2. Screen Resolution - This thing KILLS the look of the screen. Looks like a TV wrapped in Saran Wrap
3. Exposed corners - the skin doesn't even cover the corners of the phone. If on an you drop it on a corner edge you will dent the case easily
4. Feel - The edges of each individual piece don't line up properly on the phone, the screen protector is off to one side a little and the other pieces on the skin don't line up. This makes it so the edges of each piece you can really FEEL. It really ruins it.
5. The edges also give the edges of the touch screen a rough edge that you can easily see over the black sections of the digitizer.
I will try and get some photos tonight of everything I am talking about. All in all i am VERY unhappy with the Zagg.
So the question is do I take it off and deal with no protection, or say screw it and leave it on?
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100% spot on.
I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.
I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.
I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.
Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.
Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.
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I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.
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I thought it was supposed to be invisible?
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That was a joke, right?
Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.
I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)
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As for the way the screen looks and the tackiness, that will change over time. The screen should clear up in a couple days. The tackiness goes away the more you handle the phone... the oils from your hands will change the feel over time and make it very smooth in comparison to what it feels like right now. On my G1, I can honestly say it took a few weeks of normal use and the tackiness was gone... you just have to give this time.
As for the edges and corners... well that's why I would personally go for the BSE skin... they did a much better job of covering the corners properly. If the installation on some of the pieces is out of alignment, I'd take it back and tell them to redo it properly.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.
another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.
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Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.
I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
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Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.
Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.
Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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you're ... wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.
As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.
That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.
The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
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While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.
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Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.
Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
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I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.
I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.
The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.
Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.
In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.
Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.
attn1 said:
That was a joke, right?
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
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Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"
Ok so its been 4 days ......
Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!
Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!
Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.
If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"
I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.
Any recommendations?

Free StealthGuards! (Invisible shields)

Just saw this offer and wanted to share it, free protectors at**LInk removed - advertising a commercial site*** I don't know if they are any good, but they only charge transport costs for now
Thanks for the info!!
Nice one! just placed the order and will receive it in a few days
thanks for the heads up!
A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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Well they are free. (Sort-of)
There is another thread running about these.
Long story short, not very good and have now removed the shield after less than a week.
the shield works well for me and the cutting is pretty accurate.
just gotta spray lots of water during application and everything will come out quite nicely. Im intending to get another spare one as Ive heard that such shield will become yellowish after some time.
overall, im impressed with wat ive received given the amount of money ive spent
I've ordered one of these sunday just past hope it comes soon
Mine arrived. I got 2 sets as figured I'd mess some up first time.
First impressions:
Never used invisible shield type products before. The pieces are very accurately shaped, but not completely cut, which made separating them from the surround quite hard. I found best method was to separate each individual section by roughly cutting around it leaving excess on all 4 sides, then apply to phone, and use the excess to move it around to avoid fingerprints on the sections.
A strong pull stripped off the excess of the vinyl, and also made them fit very snuggly. This works particularly well on the curved back - which I suggest you fit first.
I put them on dry and found they went on fine. Some tiny bubbles which went away after a day.
The screen protector I found impossible to get on without larger bubbles - I tried wet and dry. The texture's not very nice either so suggest you use some of the excellent ebay cheapo screen protectors. Buy lots if you're fussy about bubbles like I am.
All the cut pieces are a very neat fit. Once on, your phone becomes very shiny, and very grippy. The raised edges of the pieces, particularly on the sides, can be felt. It doesn't look as nice as a bare phone, but it's functional.
Mine arrived last week.
I had a lot of problems installing them. I was left with a very wet table, a lot of used paper towels and a few dusty stealth guards. Maybe I can find enough courage to try it again later. But at the moment I'm too frustrated with them
I also was quite surprised by the size of the bubbles. As you said, the cheap eBay protectors don't have that kind of bubbles. I must admit I didn't wait the recommended 24h
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I must admit I didn't wait the recommended 24h
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A few people at slickdeals.net that bought these last time said these were pretty crap!
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i can confirm...got one for Desire and one to Hd2...to dificult to apply, and they look too bad, seems you are grabbing a piece of plastic.
in my desire just kept the display protection, in my Hd2 im waiting for a friend to see an then remove that crap... i bought one from another brand for my Iphone, and it was easy to apply, it came with a thing to apply the protection and it was great.
Belive me , sometimes in my job i have to decorate cars and i got some experience in applying that...
Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
Glad i bought a brando ultra clear
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Rubbish. Screen protector didn't go on easily at all and as I removed any bubbles on it, it just damaged the protector, leaving a mark! Hated the feeling when touching it as it has far too much resistance compared to the bare screen.
The actual body covers for it are utter tat! Makes the phone look like a cheap children's toy and fits badly!
£2.80 wasted on this, but at least it means I won't waste money on full price protectors!
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Hmm, not good to hear.
dont get it. it's rubbish. Thick as hell. it's like putting a condom over your phone. looks and feel funny after you manage to get it on. Getting it on is a project by itself. also its super shinny and looks very plastic. save yourself the shipping cost.
Hmm, I <3 my Zagg InvisibleSHIELD, this would be a nice back up just incase my zagg lifetime warranty fails to renew. Have the people bashing this promo tried the official Zagg invisibleSHIELD? I wonder if it's the quality of the Stealth Guard, or the idea of having a plastic coating all around that's turning you off.
If the quality of the Stealth Guard is as good as the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD then I wouldn't mind paying the $3.00 shipping. But I'm getting the idea that the Stealth Guards are cheaper, and of poor quality when compared to the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD.
The bestskinsever ones look tempting. Apparently they're quiet decent and they only cost a bit more than StealthGuards.
So where is the solution that they show in the video? Is the solution just water? I checked out the FAQS on the Site but didn't find anything. My package just came in an envelope with the protectors and my invoice. Just curious if anyone knows how to apply them without the "solution" they say to use on their "Installation Instructions".
Thanks
Got mine in the mail yesterday. I need help applying it because I'm a spaz. Heh.

Zagg Invisible Shield

I bought one of these last week and I have to say it's probably the worst screen protector I've ever seen. The only positive I can think of is that, despite being slightly more complicated than your regular screen protector, it's easy to install it without getting any bubbles under the screen.
Once on, the screen looks extremely tacky. It's almost impossible to install it without trapping any dust underneath. Probably the worst thing about it is the feeling of the material it's made of. Despite having the whole 'being made out the same material as what's used to protect military helicopter blades' gimmick they have going on, I don't think it's a good material to have on your screen. The material is thick and soft. They say it's unlikely to scratch, but due to the soft nature of the material, it's very easy to make (permanent?) impressions into it. After just a day of use the screen looked extremely scratched up and really looked awful.
It also doesn't have a smooth finish. This really stands out when looking at it from an angle.
At prices of over £10 for only one protector this item is an absolute rip-off. Stay well away.
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After i bought this Invisible **** for my old HTC Daimond ... I will never buy again this ...this ... **** This is the best word to describe it. INVISIBLE ****
Wow, alot of bad points. I have been using thshield on all my devices in my sig, and i gotta day its worth it. my screen gets protected. yes it does scrathc, bug not as much as other sscreen protectors. i have been using mine since
s eptember. my only con is that on resitive tiuch screens, you have to prress harder on the screen and it gives an unpleasnt felling and squelching noise when you flick scroll. like chalk running down a board thing
Yeah, I bought one of these too, and it was so badly shaped, unpleasantly textured and and difficult to apply that it immediately went in the bin. In the four months or so I've had the phone I've not got a mark on the casing it yet anyway- the unibody is very tough.
I've used many different shield on my phones, and ZAGG's Invisible Shield is imo the best. After couple of days of usage it becomes really smooth and there's no bubbles or dirt under the shield. A friend of mine didn't even notice the shield until he looked at the screen from an different angle.
My advice is to use this material to protect the body, but NOT the screen.
The orange peel effect, reduced luminosity and really poor tactile feedback/stickyness make it a really bad choice.
I put one on a camera screen, also on an iPod. Several years ago now. The protection (& grip/non-slide) offered to the iPod is very positive, but it's a magnet for smudges and other imperfections.
& while we're on the subject, spend a few €/$ and get a quality screen protector from one of the trusted brands, instead of the 10 for a dollar ebay ones
I find that screen protectors last the life of my phones, so it's a small investment really.
to me there are better options than Zagg IS.
I personally never use Zagg's but I've seen couple friends of mine having problems with IS. After a year the edges of the IS-folie seemed to dry off and changed to same faint orange color. They all used full protection (screen + body) and all the edges became so and look ugly.
Upon seeing that, I used Skinomi on both my DHD and Touch HD and I am VERY satisfied. Get from Amazon.com. It's cheaper and it comes with lifetime warranty.
i managed to scratch mine yesterday so much for their special non-military crap!
i was using a pen on my phone, Lol and the pen mark got on the invisible shield. then i tried to scracth it off and it left scratches all over the screen :/
olyloh6696 said:
i managed to scratch mine yesterday so much for their special non-military crap!
i was using a pen on my phone, Lol and the pen mark got on the invisible shield. then i tried to scracth it off and it left scratches all over the screen :/
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I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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Yeah, i willl nneveer buy one aggain as a screen proottectorr. ill just buy the body housing. its crap material and texture for the screen :/
Krzysiec said:
I told Ya it`s a piece of **** not SHIELD
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yea well.. the reputation before was good. It dropped
THE BEST BEST BEST solution for me was buying CaseMate POP with screenprotector in it Can 100% recommend it!
Screenprotector CM POP is scretchproof - the black parts of CM POP are "scretchlove"
but... it's great!
I used my iPhone for two years without any protection rather the case (nothing fancy).
The DHD would get the same treatment. No shields.
Just be a little careful and don't put your phone straight in your pocket with some change in it.
Now i have to invest in a new better screen protector, any suggestions?
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AWBob said:
I bought one of these last week and I have to say it's probably the worst screen protector I've ever seen. The only positive I can think of is that, despite being slightly more complicated than your regular screen protector, it's easy to install it without getting any bubbles under the screen.
Once on, the screen looks extremely tacky. It's almost impossible to install it without trapping any dust underneath. Probably the worst thing about it is the feeling of the material it's made of. Despite having the whole 'being made out the same material as what's used to protect military helicopter blades' gimmick they have going on, I don't think it's a good material to have on your screen. The material is thick and soft. They say it's unlikely to scratch, but due to the soft nature of the material, it's very easy to make (permanent?) impressions into it. After just a day of use the screen looked extremely scratched up and really looked awful.
It also doesn't have a smooth finish. This really stands out when looking at it from an angle.
At prices of over £10 for only one protector this item is an absolute rip-off. Stay well away.
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I fit these things in my work for a price of £6.99 or £9.99 for the whole thing, it's a good piece of kit if you don't mind the feel of it but it only really looks good on an iphone 4, you really can't notice it besides the feel, DHD on the other hand makes it look cheap an nasty, the material is the same stuff they use on the Apache helicopters, it's remouldable for a longer period of time, if you get marks on it then that's your fault, it won't allow scratches easily at all it's very robust, tbh if you want a nice smooth and strong screen protector then may i recommend a griffin as they are the smoothest.
Also when you use zagg you must leave it to set for around about 2 - 3 days to properly benefit it, if you have a problem with dust underneath the screen then you obviously haven't done it properly, i never get dust under the protector.
Krzysiec said:
THE BEST BEST BEST solution for me was buying CaseMate POP with screenprotector in it Can 100% recommend it!
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I'm using that at the moment, it's a bit chunky but then again, my hands are too so it's all good.
Very tough case, only gripe is that it gathers white bits of fluff from your pocket.
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i was using a pen on my phone, Lol/
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As soon as i read that bit of your comment I didn't need to read on, why would you use a pen on your phone? Really?
Tell you what i'll just use this sword to scratch my eye !
"999 Yep i've poked my eye out, can you help please?".
I always use zagg screen protectors and think they are the best you can buy imo lol. Had the screen protectors on all my phones and iPad and I really like the feel and I've never had to take one off because its nackered, they seem to last forever. I've just this minute put one on my new desire hd
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dladz said:
As soon as i read that bit of your comment I didn't need to read on, why would you use a pen on your phone? Really?
Tell you what i'll just use this sword to scratch my eye !
"999 Yep i've poked my eye out, can you help please?".
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Had to laugh at this one lol
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The back of the m8 scratches easily

Has anyone else notice how bad the back scratches on this phone
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Mine isn't scratched at all yet, but I only got it yesterday afternoon.
Dont know, I put a case on it.
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Has anyone else notice how bad the back scratches on this phone
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Which finish? I have the gunmetal one and I carry it around with my battery pack in the same pocket, and with some loose change and haven't scratched it yet.
I'm still waiting for my case to come in mail. The one on the top is from a bump.the other scratches are just from everyday use. I'm real good at taking care of my phones.
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thats why they make cases. its aluminum it is going to scratch
oneandroidnut said:
thats why they make cases. its aluminum it is going to scratch
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I do agree that it will scratch easy being aluminum. I just find it really unfortunate that so much time, energy and resources spent on designing a phone like this (one marketed for it's design as it's main selling point) has to be covered up with a case to be protected. That's why I don't get into the "OMGITSPLASTIC" conversations.
It's either "phone is plastic and cheap so I must put a case on it" or "phone is premium and sexy aluminum that will easily get damaged so I must put a case on it".
Not bashing, just think it's unfortunate.
Funny.... I didn't even think of that. Its aluminum and it does scratch easy. ****!
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I do agree that it will scratch easy being aluminum. I just find it really unfortunate that so much time, energy and resources spent on designing a phone like this (one marketed for it's design as it's main selling point) has to be covered up with a case to be protected. That's why I don't get into the "OMGITSPLASTIC" conversations.
It's either "phone is plastic and cheap so I must put a case on it" or "phone is premium and sexy aluminum that will easily get damaged so I must put a case on it".
Not bashing, just think it's unfortunate.
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Exactly, there's always at least one that complains. Shot, where can i find a $500,000 car that doesn't scratch? LOL, same concept people, stuff scratches, don't lose sleep over it. Id take this build on a device any day over plastic that snaps and breaks if dropped vs this kind of build which at worse might slightly dent the body and scratch but still hold it's own. Want to look fancy, wear your phone out naked as long as you can. Once it's all scratched up, then get a case. I'm OCD with this stuff so screen protector and case gets put on as soon as device is taken out of the box in store! I don't care if it comes with Gorilla Mega Super Duper Glass 1000, why take chances on something so amazing?
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Exactly, there's always at least one that complains. Shot, where can i find a $500,000 car that doesn't scratch? LOL, same concept people, stuff scratches, don't lose sleep over it. Id take this build on a device any day over plastic that snaps and breaks if dropped vs this kind of build which at worse might slightly dent the body and scratch but still hold it's own. Want to look fancy, wear your phone out naked as long as you can. Once it's all scratched up, then get a case. I'm OCD with this stuff so screen protector and case gets put on as soon as device is taken out of the box in store! I don't care if it comes with Gorilla Mega Super Duper Glass 1000, why take chances on something so amazing?
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Oh ok.. well, where can I find a case to put on my "$500,000 car"?
I don't care what anyone says, if you drop a "plastic" phone..you are more than likely going to break the glass screen rather that the plastic. The same can definitely be said about a soft aluminum phone. It isn't offering anymore natural drop protection over plastic, I would argue less because it will dent and contort where plastic really won't.
It was the case with my M7 and my Note 3, both have been dropped a few times. Luckily both glass screens survived, but the Note didn't show damage from a short drop like the m7 did. My option was to cover it up with a case, hiding all the "beauty" it may have.
Now, excuse me while I go out and buy a case to hide my car and a case to cover up my pretty girlfriend. Don't want anything to get damaged, so I must cover it up!!
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I do agree that it will scratch easy being aluminum. I just find it really unfortunate that so much time, energy and resources spent on designing a phone like this (one marketed for it's design as it's main selling point) has to be covered up with a case to be protected. That's why I don't get into the "OMGITSPLASTIC" conversations.
It's either "phone is plastic and cheap so I must put a case on it" or "phone is premium and sexy aluminum that will easily get damaged so I must put a case on it".
Not bashing, just think it's unfortunate.
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I understand but what about a clear case??
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Rippley05 said:
Oh ok.. well, where can I find a case to put on my "$500,000 car"?
I don't care what anyone says, if you drop a "plastic" phone..you are more than likely going to break the glass screen rather that the plastic. The same can definitely be said about a soft aluminum phone. It isn't offering anymore natural drop protection over plastic, I would argue less because it will dent and contort where plastic really won't.
It was the case with my M7 and my Note 3, both have been dropped a few times. Luckily both glass screens survived, but the Note didn't show damage from a short drop like the m7 did. My option was to cover it up with a case, hiding all the "beauty" it may have.
Now, excuse me while I go out and buy a case to hide my car and a case to cover up my pretty girlfriend. Don't want anything to get damaged, so I must cover it up!!
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I see your point but my sarcastic point was that people want a scratch free device out of the box from factory. Just like a scratch free car out of factory lot. That is not possible, at least not anytime soon so like you said, battle between plastic and this metal type of casing. Personally i'll always choose a premium feeling metal type body over any kind of super duper plastic build that will just snap off from falls.
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I see your point but my sarcastic point was that people want a scratch free device out of the box from factory. Just like a scratch free car out of factory lot. That is not possible, at least not anytime soon so like you said, battle between plastic and this metal type of casing. Personally i'll always choose a premium feeling metal type body over any kind of super duper plastic build that will just snap off from falls.
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If the phone was scratched out of the box id be sending it back and would buy a 60k car if it had a scratch on it on the car lot? I wouldn't I'd ask for a different car..a scratch RESISTANT phone would be what we want out of the box.. I guess I was just use to a plastic phone.
I thought the op said it scratches easily as in saying after use and time it started to scratch. Not that out of the box it came scratched, totally different story.
I was commenting on ur sarcastic point in ur last comment, but it doesn't matter. Have a good day bro..
I bought the the clear case from the Verizon store ..it's shows the back and protects at the same time with a bumper casing around it..def worthy of my 15 bucks
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I would just get it covered in a clear film. You could use "Ghost Armor" or just get a nice skin online. Depending on whether you want to see the original finish. I hate cases myself and never use one, instead opting for skins as I only really care about scratch protection. I also don't use screen protectors as GG3 is strong enough.

Closeup pics of the latest Dbrand Prism and Grip

Hi guys, I'm sure you've seen quite a few pictures of those accessories, so I thought I'd post here a few images from very close to some details so you can have a good idea of the finish, etc.
Also a small comparison with an official case (nylon one). I've ordered a skin for it, but it was on preorder and just started shipping today.
Sorry for the lint on some pictures, it does catch it ^^
As for my opinion (one more of those), well the case does feel real good in hand, the phone feels really safe in there. The buttons are real good (miles better than Rhinoshield bumper). Only thing is that the fingerprint scanner is deep and in a small window, so must get a little used to the feeling of really accurately put the finger in there. And is it grippy ? Is fine! a bit better than the official case but not by super much.
Prism is also good, easy to install. Biggest critic is how sharp the edges are (you can see on the pictures). If you don't use a case, you'll feel them and I'd be afraid to lift it by mistake, not sure how securely it sticks. The feeling is like glass, I was using the phone naked previously and no problem with that. Also, it does not affect the screen, I think ; some peops say it makes the screen cloudy, but I do not notice.
Worth the price ? Hmm those things are a rip off no matter what. But they are both good quality products, and the glass screen protector without a black border is a real step up ^^.
There you go!
Thanks for sharing! Would you recommend dropping $$$ on this combo?
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Thanks for sharing! Would you recommend dropping $$$ on this combo?
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Well, all in all, it is near 60 USD.
The case is good I think, feels good and will protect the phone that's for sure, so if you don't have anything like that, it is a good buy. I also have an official OP cover and the main difference is that the Dbrand case has raised edges.
The glass, while it is good, is not as ground breaking as I imagined (Dbrand's marketing team is good ^^). The plus is that it feels like glass and does not have a black border, is as fingerprints resistant as the bare glass or the official screen protector. The bad is that the glass as you can see on the pictures is really only on the screen and has sharp corners, so you feel it when doing gestures, unless you use a case (because then your finger does not slide from the farther edge of the phone, if you see what I mean).
So out of the two, I would say the actually real good product is the case.
The case looks too bulky to me. I prefer the slimmer ones like the official protective sandstone or the karbon bumper, which are really well made. But I guess it depends on the environment you're working in (etc) which affects the danger your phoneis in, in which case, if it's a place you can easily damage it, this type of case can save you good money on repairs. The prism looks really durable from what I've seen online and I believe you get 2 in the box if I'm not mistaken, so if that's true, that's a big plus over rhinoshield's overpriced 1x black bordered piece of crap that covers at least 1mm of screen on each side, forcing you to just take it off minutes after installation and breaking it in anger.
Anyway, thanks for giving us a look at dbrand's new products. Was really looking forward to seeing someone talk about that.
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The case looks too bulky to me. I prefer the slimmer ones like the [...] Was really looking forward to seeing someone talk about that.
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I agree as well, it does add quite a bit of bulk.
I have all in all 3 cases. The simple one from OP (carbon one), their thicker nylon one and this one from dbrand. I don't really need a lot of protection (scratches protection is good enough) so it's mostly to change the look. I go naked as well with just a skin.
The result is that with that dbrand case you do feel very confident that the phone is safe.
Yes you do get two prism in the box, so that's actually quite a sweet deal because those are sturdy and nice to the touch really like glass without the border.
I have not been able to try with the simple case from OP, it's still in my boxes after moving house, but do not underestimate how annoying the edges of the prism are. They really really get in the way.
I think it's important to stress this because for example people were downplaying the terrible buttons of the Rhinoshield bumper for op5 and I got it and it was in actuality very bad.
kipue said:
I agree as well, it does add quite a bit of bulk.
I have all in all 3 cases. The simple one from OP (carbon one), their thicker nylon one and this one from dbrand. I don't really need a lot of protection (scratches protection is good enough) so it's mostly to change the look. I go naked as well with just a skin.
The result is that with that dbrand case you do feel very confident that the phone is safe.
Yes you do get two prism in the box, so that's actually quite a sweet deal because those are sturdy and nice to the touch really like glass without the border.
I have not been able to try with the simple case from OP, it's still in my boxes after moving house, but do not underestimate how annoying the edges of the prism are. They really really get in the way.
I think it's important to stress this because for example people were downplaying the terrible buttons of the Rhinoshield bumper for op5 and I got it and it was in actuality very bad.
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I dropped my OP6 from approximately 2.5meters from the locomotive's door and the phone miraculously survived with the karbon case having one nick in the top right side corner and surprisingly that disappeared after a few days. Very impressive quality. I was also very lucky, I guess, considering the height the phone fell from. THEN I got the bumper case from Rhinoshield along with the garbage black bordered glass. I broke the glass in half after basically donating money to them because that glass was not worth the price, but that was that. I put their bumper on my phone and left it there for a few days. ****ty buttons, poor quality material and slippery too, like a hard plastic you find in those kitchen accessories, but whatever, I liked the alert slider one. Then one day I got in my car and the phone fell from my pocket on concrete (or asphalt) and because it happened right at the edge of the road, one hard little rock managed to touch the edge of the screen at impact and cracked the screen on the middle right side with the crack starting from the bottom and ending in a "C" shape 2 or 3 centimeters above. So it's still ok but the start of the crack can be felt at touch so that's a bummer.
And in the end I could've given the money to the old lady beggar at the corner of the street instead of giving it to Rhinoshield for 2 absolutely rubbish products they made such a big fuss about.
Never again I'll buy from them. Dbrand's products seem a bit different though especially that prism. I might get one and put it on the screen to protect it from getting other cracks if I accidentally drop it, cause the crack is pretty small to make me replace the screen. I don't think it's worth it.
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I dropped my OP6 from approximately [...] . I might get one and put it on the screen to protect it from getting other cracks if I accidentally drop it, cause the crack is pretty small to make me replace the screen. I don't think it's worth it.
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Yeah, as usual those things are very often quite a leap of faith. We want to believe that the more expensive it is the better it will be but the truth is that it's probably the same or close to the same with a different packaging :angel:
But need a screen protector at least to maintain the resell value of the devices.
I'll say again, prism is a good one but not perfect (like none of them is).
Can you comment on the alert slider functionality with the case on? I can make it out slightly on one of the pictures and it looks like you can use it with ease?
I'm currently using a Poetic case, I need a solid case with my work conditions. The only issue is the damn alert slider is rendered unusable without a pen or something similar handy.
ahagersr said:
Can you comment on the alert slider functionality with the case on? I can make it out slightly on one of the pictures and it looks like you can use it with ease?
I'm currently using a Poetic case, I need a solid case with my work conditions. The only issue is the damn alert slider is rendered unusable without a pen or something similar handy.
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Hey,
The slider is quite easy to use yes.
You got to get a bit used to it cause its quite nestled in there so you have to make a little effort at first to put the finger the right way.
Same as with the fingerprint reader, a little bit of time to get used to it, because it's deeper so you can't approach it from whatever direction like you would naked or with a different case. It's still easy to use.
All in all out of their two products, I recommand the case with no problem. If you look for safety then for sure go for it.
Will make a few more pics to show you.
kipue said:
Hey,
The slider is quite easy to use yes.
You got to get a bit used to it cause its quite nestled in the so you have to make a little effort at first to put the finger the right way.
Same as with the fingerprint reader, a little bit of time to get used to it, because it's deeper so you can't approach it from whatever direction like you would naked or with a different case. It's still easy to use.
All in all out if their two products, I recommand the case with no problem. If you look for safety then for sure go for it.
Will make a few more pics to show you.
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Thank you very much for your time!
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Thank you very much for your time!
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Sure, no problem.
So here are a few more. The last one is to show how the phone screen does not touch a flat surface when it is put face down. It's blurry but you'll get the idea.
Also some lint, not fighting that anymore

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