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[Q] some quick questions

i've looked around this forum for hours..there is a tooon of info on here and im just tired of trying to sort through this.
first off, i recently updated my captivate to froyo 2.2 and lost everything i had on my previous rooted 2.1. before i did the froyo update i made a complete backup with titanium backup. My question is, can I recover that back up on 2.2 if i reroot my phone and run titanium?
if so, whats the best way to root the captivate on froyo 2.2?
sorry for the noooob questions, but all the information on here is a little overwhelming. so i appreciate any information you guys can give me with as little flaming as possilbe
thanks

I think all ROMs (2.2) are rooted since they are all custom made by devs. just install titanium backup and restore

I dont see any superuser permissions (or whatever its called) in my app drawer. And when i try to run titanium backup it wont work
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s13envy said:
i've looked around this forum for hours..there is a tooon of info on here and im just tired of trying to sort through this.
first off, i recently updated my captivate to froyo 2.2 and lost everything i had on my previous rooted 2.1. before i did the froyo update i made a complete backup with titanium backup. My question is, can I recover that back up on 2.2 if i reroot my phone and run titanium?
if so, whats the best way to root the captivate on froyo 2.2?
sorry for the noooob questions, but all the information on here is a little overwhelming. so i appreciate any information you guys can give me with as little flaming as possilbe
thanks
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Did you load a rom or just flash 2.2? If you loaded a rom made by a dev it would be rooted. As far as getting your stuff back all you need to do is use a one click root and run tibu. Or find any 2.2 rom and flash through cwm and run tibu.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

I just flashed the leaked version of 2.2. Do you happen to have a link to the one click root for 2,2. I found a couple threads on here. Thanks in advance
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You can try z4 root from the market or try that gunmans thread for one click root in the dev section. Im in my phone so its not easy to give links.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

Thanks man. I will do some looking. I appreciate the help
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well i just tried the one click root method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 and now the phone doesn't seem to work. the phone starts and loads the homepage but i dont get any signal. i'm going through the process of unrooting it and it seems to be stuck. i knew i shouldn't have messsed with this. hahah.
any information to help guys?

Stuck where and how. More info is always helpful

mcord11758 said:
Stuck where and how. More info is always helpful
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well after i did the root and restarted the phone the superuser was there but it wouldn't allow access to titanium backup. so i tried to do the unroot process and now the program is stuck on removing superuser.apk. the phone will will vibrate every so often and the screes pops up "sorry. process system is not responding."
any ideas?

s13envy said:
well after i did the root and restarted the phone the superuser was there but it wouldn't allow access to titanium backup. so i tried to do the unroot process and now the program is stuck on removing superuser.apk. the phone will will vibrate every so often and the screes pops up "sorry. process system is not responding."
any ideas?
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Mac or pc user
If pc go back to stock start over
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I am sorry but I think this its your best bet. if done right it is easy
If mac eek

Try to pull bat and reboot. good night

update. i unplugged the phone and restarted it...everything seems to be back to the normal unrooted froyo 2.2. im wondering if i did something wrong when trying to root it or what. I've read through the thread and seen some users have had some troubles.
btw, im a pc user.

s13envy said:
update. i unplugged the phone and restarted it...everything seems to be back to the normal unrooted froyo 2.2. im wondering if i did something wrong when trying to root it or what. I've read through the thread and seen some users have had some troubles.
btw, im a pc user.
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My opinion is go back to stock research custom roms

Use the Z4 from the market. Much less messy.

CHorden said:
Use the Z4 from the market. Much less messy.
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ive searched the market for it and havent been able to find anything
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s13envy said:
ive searched the market for it and havent been able to find anything
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It was removed from the market. However, it's available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
Sorry for the confusion

I downloaded it but i can't install bc its not a market app?
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s13envy said:
I downloaded it but i can't install bc its not a market app?
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Here give this a shot. No promises though as I have only used 2.2 custom roms. Rename to update.zip, Copy to phone and reboot into recovery and reinstall packages

s13envy said:
I downloaded it but i can't install bc its not a market app?
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You can also use the Sideload Wonder Machine to install non-Market apps and rooting isn't necessary before hand.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine

Rooted???

I'm having a really hard time with the rooting of this phone ... I can't get the update.zip to wrk. All it does is starts to unpack the files then goes to a screen with a triangle over the android guy then I have to do a battery pull !!! I keep reading and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
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Get z4root off here and run it. It will hang up the first time. Pull the battery and restart your phone. Then run z4root again. This time it will root your phone.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.

I've tried it it hangs everytime even after a battery pull
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Igotno said:
I'm having a really hard time with the rooting of this phone ... I can't get the update.zip to wrk. All it does is starts to unpack the files then goes to a screen with a triangle over the android guy then I have to do a battery pull !!! I keep reading and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
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You need to be more specific, there are different steps to take if you're working from 2.1-update1 or 2.2, sounds to me like you're following steps for customizing 2.1-update1 when you should be upgrading to 2.2, check out the link in my signature - should be pretty helpful...

Igotno said:
I've tried it it hangs everytime even after a battery pull
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If the second time around it takes a few seconds fir it to finish. If thats not working try super one click on xda.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.

built2rail said:
If the second time around it takes a few seconds fir it to finish. If thats not working try super one click on xda.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
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This would be if you're trying to root from 2.1-update1

just use super one click, it is more reliable i have found.
and i had the same issue with the screen sitting at the android guy with exclamation point.
if you hit the home button again i believe the screen comes back and you can see the messages and the recovery menu.

I'm running 2.2 .... No the home key didn't take me back to recovery had to battery pull each time...I used super one click and it said it was successful but I'm not seeing that I have anymore control or access to stuff!!!
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Igotno said:
I'm running 2.2 .... No the home key didn't take me back to recovery had to battery pull each time...I used super one click and it said it was successful but I'm not seeing that I have anymore control or access to stuff!!!
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And this is why it's important to ask questions before ANSWERING, when you're not sure of what the poster is actually trying to do.
Ignotno, go back and re-read the original thread for the 2.2 leak, it comes pre-rooted so you shouldn't have to do anything. If you're having problems with root, then you should try superoneclick (as noted above).
You're following processes for customizing a stock 2.1-update1 phone, you should go back to my newbie guide and read the steps for customizing 2.2.

Igotno said:
I'm running 2.2 .... No the home key didn't take me back to recovery had to battery pull each time...I used super one click and it said it was successful but I'm not seeing that I have anymore control or access to stuff!!!
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rooting doesnt open up a magic door with all kinds of cool stuff.
Rooting just unlocks the door, you need to open it and do all the cool stuff.
download a tool call Quickreboot from the market.
open it and choose REBOOT
it should ask you for Superuser permission.
tell it yes, and the phone should reboot.
if it tells you you dont have root permission then you are not rooted yet
if it works then you have been rooted and you are probably trying to root the 2.2 rom via the 2.1 method and i do not know if that works.
download the prerooted 2.2 and flash it via odin.
it is already rooted and you do not have to do anything else.

v_lestat said:
rooting doesnt open up a magic door with all kinds of cool stuff.
Rooting just unlocks the door, you need to open it and do all the cool stuff.
download a tool call Quickreboot from the market.
open it and choose REBOOT
it should ask you for Superuser permission.
tell it yes, and the phone should reboot.
if it tells you you dont have root permission then you are not rooted yet
if it works then you have been rooted and you are probably trying to root the 2.2 rom via the 2.1 method and i do not know if that works.
download the prerooted 2.2 and flash it via odin.
it is already rooted and you do not have to do anything else.
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This made me laugh... mostly because when I first started looking at rooting I also thought it would magically make my phone amazing
And just to add a quick point; you would also know you have Root Access if the SuperUser application appears in your application drawer...

Glad I can make you chuckle... yes I did notice it and as far as its concerned does nothing on my phone that I see
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If I remember correctly the first time I used superoneclick I had to download superuser from the market.
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Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.

Its already on the phone musta come with 2.2
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Igotno said:
Its already on the phone musta come with 2.2
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It does. For some reason I was thinking you were on 2.1.
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Igotno said:
Its already on the phone musta come with 2.2
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It doesn't "do" anything per-say, what it does is stores the names of programs which you have given superuser access (once you've done so)
The easiest way to test is (as stated above) to download some sort of ROOT app (root explorer, quick boot, etc.) and when you run them for the first time you should get a screen asking permission for the superuser access, once given this access it has read/write access to your system files (that's basically all root is).
You'll want to do a lot of reading on the forums before you attempt using any of these themes/mods/roms as you'll want a better understanding of the process before you get started.

Nice comment thank you ... You clarified alot abig help.. Yes it is rooted all is well it hangs once while, if I try doing to much!
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Igotno said:
Nice comment thank you ... You clarified alot abig help.. Yes it is rooted all is well it hangs once while, if I try doing to much!
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Since you're rooted (and sounds that you're still on stock 2.2 framework) I would suggest getting the EA11 clockwork recovery installed (if you haven't)
then go over and flash the pick and pack EA11 rom (this is the stock 2.2 framework with all of the bloat programs removed, and i'ts deodexed so that you can then flash theme's over it to customize the appearance)
After you have pnp i would then flash the new EA11 Voodoo kernel (This is a system mod that changes the EXT storage system, which in turn speeds up the phone and saves a little battery life for being faster.) This will fix your hang problems (once you actually enable Voodoo lagfix through the recovery menu) instruction is all posted in threads on the forums here, refer to my newbie guide if needed (link in my signature.)
After that take a look at the EA11 themes you have to choose from, if you're interested in changing appearance.
Good luck!

Rooting Difficulty?

Just wondering where the MyTouch rates as far as rooting difficulty? Are other android devices generally harder or easier to root? I have rooted 3 MyTouches with no difficulty at all, but it seems like some people have quite the time trying to get it done.

Well the sticky root guide in the developer thread was pretty straight forward. It was my first time rooting and to me the guide was a lot less daunting than others I came across. But for some reason I lost superuser
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Did you use the gfree method? The other ones seem hit or miss since the OTA.

Ya I did use the gfree method. The su app is corrupted tho... Ive been rooted since last Month and this problem just started today
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My old mytouch was pretty easy, my Vibrant was ridiculously easy, my G2 was fairly easy and my MT4G was not bad at all. My hardest time was with my wife's MT Slide. I actually had to learn ADB for that one. Good knowledge but it was quite the learning process.
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lowandbehold said:
Just wondering where the MyTouch rates as far as rooting difficulty? Are other android devices generally harder or easier to root? I have rooted 3 MyTouches with no difficulty at all, but it seems like some people have quite the time trying to get it done.
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The MyTouchHD is stupid easy to root. I had it rooted with s=off before i even left the t-mobile store.
I'm in the same boat i have no clue why some people have such a difficult time rooting this phone.
the process i used was
Prior to even getting the phone
Download the VISIONary.apk and stored it on the SDcard
Download the root.sh script file
when i got the phone
installed the Astro File Manager via the market
installed the Term Emulator via the market
installed VISIONary via astro
Ran VISIONary
from the term emulator
Code:
$ su
# cd /sdcard/root
# sh root.sh
and i was rooted with s=off.. no clue why it's so hard to manage to do that.

The method above doesn't work at least for me.... getting real irritated .... root just not sticking can temp root fine.... any advice ive tried over and over reading over and over i memorized the terminal part...pls help i really dont wanna do the gfree way just feels to dangerous to revert
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I have only used the Gfree way. Yea it would take a little work to go back..but worth it.

Plus if it really came down to it I have insurance on my phone...I would just run it over and suck up the $100 for a new one.

Just use gfree. Its the only method that works %100 when done correctly.

neidlinger said:
The MyTouchHD is stupid easy to root. I had it rooted with s=off before i even left the t-mobile store.
I'm in the same boat i have no clue why some people have such a difficult time rooting this phone.
the process i used was
Prior to even getting the phone
Download the VISIONary.apk and stored it on the SDcard
Download the root.sh script file
when i got the phone
installed the Astro File Manager via the market
installed the Term Emulator via the market
installed VISIONary via astro
Ran VISIONary
from the term emulator
Code:
$ su
# cd /sdcard/root
# sh root.sh
and i was rooted with s=off.. no clue why it's so hard to manage to do that.
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i tried doing this 3 times today and it didnt work at all. I cant get the superuser app to stay in my drawer, but i lose root. I guess i will have to try the gfree way. I tried it with both visionary 11 and 14

I had lots of problems using thoses ways too the gfree way worked for me.
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Dude, you guys are doing waaay to much. Safest, fastest most reliable way is always "Super One-Click"... click temp root.. then when its done click regular root. Now u gotta perm root with s=off. Then goto market, install Rom Manager and install CWR and your on your way.
Idk why everyone made it so complicated when its easy as hell the way i just said.
I was stumped reading it because I do NOT like adb at all. But i tried something and found it to work within 10 minutes.
Hope this helps someone out.
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I wish it was that easy,i rooted every phone I ever has that could be rooted but this phone I cant get in to,for 3 months I cant even get su .no s-off nothing
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djmunster said:
I wish it was that easy,i rooted every phone I ever has that could be rooted but this phone I cant get in to,for 3 months I cant even get su .no s-off nothing
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What do u mean u wish? I'm telling you that it works. I'm talking to you from my Glacier that i used that method on.
Shell root, then perm root using super one click. I promise you.
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Then im doing something seriously wrong because I cant root this phone ,ill be more then glad for you to explain what im doing wrong
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I only know that in my own experience it seems hit or miss even with gfree. I've personally attempted rooting 4 different mt4g's with gfree and only 2 of them worked. The other two would not set the system r/w no matter what method I tried (Visionary, one-click, gfree), so I could never get them to root. The two good ones rooted right away with no trouble.

real frusterating
i cant seem to root this damn phone for the life of me ive tried and tried and tried

Just tried the super one click way i must be missing something still s-on pls post what you did
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Just tried the super one click way i must be missing something still s-on pls post what you did

Uninstalling busybox

Since nobody bothered to respond to my other post, I'm just re-posting... I need to get busybox off of my phone. Root Checker says it's still installed, but I've odined the factory ed1 rom twice now. How did I get busybox off? And for those of you who are going to ask why? So I can send it in without getting hit with the $499 charge for voiding the warranty.
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Jborch8 said:
Since nobody bothered to respond to my other post, I'm just re-posting... I need to get busybox off of my phone. Root Checker says it's still installed, but I've odined the factory ed1 rom twice now. How did I get busybox off? And for those of you who are going to ask why? So I can send it in without getting hit with the $499 charge for voiding the warranty.
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I just said this in the other thread:
IMO I don't think it matters honestly, they're not gonna run root checker at the factory... all they want to see is that it powers on and works and there's no physical damage, if they see something glaringly obvious like a custom rom or the superuser app then yeah they'll ding you for it
as for removing it without root I wouldn't know, if you knew how to decompile/recompile rom packages you could remove it from the Odin package then flash it.. also it's in the market, maybe try uninstalling it from there or under 'all' applications tab in applications settings

I don't know how extensive the process is that they go through with checking the phones, which is why I wanted to make sure it was not on there. I suppose if I'm not getting a lot of replies, then I'll assume it's really not that big of a deal and just leave it on the phone. Thanks for the reply.

Remove it from sd card while you are working on it.

bwheelies said:
Remove it from sd card while you are working on it.
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use root explorer to delete system/xbin/busybox I would imagine Odin would do it for you. Im pretty sire that app your using Is installing busybox. Delete busybox manually with root exp. Then use that app to see if it reinstalls it!
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Did you reformat with the pit file too? If so I don't see how there could be any remnants after that...

As I said in the other thread, after doing all of that, if anything is there, then it came in the default rom.

I odined using both the pit, and (supposedly) the stock ed1 rom. And then I updated with the OTA to ee4. Busybox still remains. Just so everyone knows, I am not rooted, so I can't access the system files. I wanted to stay stock.

If you used the pit and stock odin, you're fine.
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The app you are using is installing busybox in the system/bin folder. Dont use the root checker app after you Odin stock if you dont want busybox. I just deleted busybox from both system/xbin and system/bin, used root checker and busybox reinstalled to system/bin.
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deleting superuser with ICS

to start, i'm running version 4.0.4 of stock ICS, and my bootloader is still unlocked I had rooted before the OTA came out, but now I don't really care to have root permissions and was planning on deleting superuser if at all possible (just so everything is clean and untouched). I haven't really been keeping up with everything for the past while, and have a couple of questions.
I'm assuming that in order to delete the current version of SU binary installed on my phone i'll have to gain root access again seeing as how I lost it after the update. can I just flash an old version of cwm and then install a newer version of SU? also, what's the easiest way to remove SU? I was planning on removing it through adb, but i'm not sure if that's the simplest way to go about things. any help is greatly appreciated.

anyone?

hoponpop said:
anyone?
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There's a Root/unroot thread in general I believe
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I think i've figured it out now