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Why does our 6.1 have a different Today screen?

Hi, just wondering why all the ROMs on here for WM 6.1 don't use the new WM 6.1 Today screen seen elsewhere?
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See http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,1206,l=225995&pg=0&s=1647&a=225987,00.asp for more.

This is just a guess, but the link you provided said that the device they were using was a "Samsung Blackjack II" which is a smartphone (non-touchscreen).

xanth said:
This is just a guess, but the link you provided said that the device they were using was a "Samsung Blackjack II" which is a smartphone (non-touchscreen).
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You are perfectly right.

Thats for Smartphone, not PocketPc.

Why not Pro? This looks pretty good!
Why wouldn't they make this available for Professional? This looks pretty good to me...just my opinion. Why would they make the smartphone version have functionality that the Pro. version can't have?

spizzo03 said:
Why wouldn't they make this available for Professional? This looks pretty good to me...just my opinion. Why would they make the smartphone version have functionality that the Pro. version can't have?
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Smartphone's handle Today screens very differently to PPCs. With a PPC, you have a theme that controls the background image and colours, then you have individual Today plug-ins that you can move and control independently.
With a Smartphone, you install the theme and that determines the background image, colour, and EVERYTHING that is displayed on the front screen - it sets where your unread messages notification goes, where your missed calls display, etc. You cannot install anything else onto your front screen, you'd have to make and install a different theme. This makes an integrated, attractive front screen easier to make on a Smartphone, but makes personalising yours a lot harder.
I think what MS is trying to do with this aspect of WM6.1 is make the Smartphone front end more user-friendly and, crucially, useful so you don't have to go delving into the menus to do things (that we can already do on PPCs by downloading a plug-in). I've reading this as MS's attempt to bring the Smartphone's front screen closer to the usablility of the PPC's, rather than it moving ahead.
[disclaimer] I haven't looked at a Smartphone since I moved from my Typhoon to my Magician, so it might've all changed since my day! [/disclaimer]

Here you can see the different devices thats running mobile 6.1
You see the TyTn II at 5 minutes

Windows Mobile 6.5 first Screen Shots

It's not much but better than nothing
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/commentaires.asp?ID=4812

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http://www.smartphonefrance.info/news/wm651.jpg

I just wish we 6.1 owners can get this update but that's not going to happen.

well greats...for РРС ed. screens will be?

Dated Sep 26, why wait this long to put the screenshots up ? I wonder.....

We may not get "official" upgrades but the kind folks around here will probably find some use for it.

Looks pretty cool!
I do believe that the odds for a free upgrade to 6.5 is possible. Just like 6.0 was upgraded to 6.1, so should 6.1 be upgraded to 6.5.
The only thing that would stop it would be if the device is too slow to handle the new version. But you shouldn't hope for a free upgrade to WM 7

Not to go off-topic but it is dispointing that we might need another upgrade just to get the new mobile IE 6.0.

Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.

GTRoberts said:
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
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Well, that's a pretty good reason, isn't it?

GTRoberts said:
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Not only that, but the battery and signal strength indicators are transposed on the 2 shots, and it looks nothing like the preview screens of WM7 we've seen. Also, MS like screen layouts to have a logical progression, and that honeycomb layout is rather... chaotic.
It's a photoshop, and not the best on either.

Fake
Fakes for me too
And it's even more simple than that : since when Microsoft put the phone function of these devices in the first place ? Putting Microsoft Media Player in the center of the screen is more correct lol
But there is a lot of other reasons and the first one is : what a new version of Windows Mobile and the first roms are not on XDA ? Impossible, XDA is the best !

I'm making a WAD2 theme based off the second screenshot... it should be done this weekend. (or at least a beta version).

Windows Mobile 6.5 officially announced **pictures**

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Gallery:
Windows 6.5 Picture Gallery
Summary of points noted:
* Most likely to start appearing in Q4 of this year
* New lock screen, The idea behind the lock screen is that there's a notification box for each type of notification -- email, text messages, voicemails, and so on -- and dragging the appropriate notification with your finger will take you straight to it when the phone unlocks.
* New home screen - Left and right swipes move between calendar events, for example. (pictured above)
* Still uses the X to quit apps etc
* New honeycomb menu/homescreen...scrolling fairly smooth
* New version of IE mobile, scrolls, renders pages better
* New virtual keyboard
* My Phone..syncing over the air
Personal opinion: Looks like the same old Windows Mobile youve come to love and hate. They added a today screen plugin and a new menu system and a cloud program woop de doo. Oh and they updated their SIP...first time in 5 years. Looks like HTC once again has to fill its shortcomings...

I really like the new unlock screen.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/windows-mobile-6-5-walkthrough-with-engadget/
Engadget walkthrough.
Someone should get his hands on that 6.5 build

Excellent job Microsoft.

Mmm... not sure about that...

A step in the right direction.
But it is nowhere near enough!!
I was really hoping for some Zune goodness here

Looking nice but not so much as expected.

Sure, it's not brilliant but it's only a stop gap until WM7 comes out. MS obviously needed to do something before next year and I'm sure it was at the request of the phone manufacturers.
I'm also sure that this will be another fantastically tweakable and skinnable OS. Love it or hate it you can't argue that WM is very customisable.

Agree, hopefully WM7 will be something really worth waiting for.

another crap

Editing Powerpoint On My Touch Pro

Hi, I have the pro for last one and a half months and use it extensively for emailing and ms office attachments. To my shock I discovered this thing can not edit Power Point slides while a simple updation of quick office in my E-51 did!!. I am not a hard core software professional as most of you on this forum might be but found it strange that such an expensive win mo device can only view PPT slides!!.Have tried the manual and HTC sites. Here in India where I am from all we get is goody goody good for nothing e-mail replies from HTC. Topping it all even the software supplied with the phone viz the spb gprs monitor and sprite back up did not load on the device citing ROM version not up to the mark(Rom Version 1.95.720.2 WWE: ROM date 21st Oct 2008: Radio Version 1.02.25.28: Protocol Version 52.33.25.17G)....any way I went ahead and purchased the compatiable version online from spb which although does not have the same format....which I am aware as I also won a diamond... but is more functional...that is another story... however my request here is can anyone help me to dowload any software that will enable this device to edit PPT? That will actually complete my pro. Thanks!!

I do not believe that there is a "upgraded version" of ppt.

Can't comment on that my freind however wud be great if this device can edit PPT slides.

I feel the same way.

The Touch Pro was only ever advertised as being able to VIEW powerpoint slides, no-one ever said it had the capability to edit them.
In all honesty, you would find such a tool incredibly frustrating to use on such a small screen anyway.
The current version of mobile office definitely doesn't support powerpoint file editing.
I am not aware of any powerpoint editor for the Touch Pro either.
Sorry!

Hello,
you cant edit ppt files with winmos built in office. we can be glad that there is
a ppt viewer in winmo at all (since windows mobile 2005, shame to ms!).
if you want to edit ppt you will have to buy clearvue office from westtek.
but its very painful to edit ppt on a device with such a small display.
if I were you I would edit your ppts on a desktop and copy them to your device.
the touch pro is very nice for viewing, especially with the tv out function.

You can edit PowerPoint files with SoftMaker Office
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofp_en.htm
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But as mentioned in previous posts, I think it will be difficult to work on a small display.

Many Thanks My unseen freinds. The westtek software is great. All said and done may be it is this flexibility of WinMo that keeps it going inspite of sluggish interface. Hope versions 6.5 and 7 will take care or else symbian is catching fast... Thanks again

iphone App to Windows App search

hi,
I recently recently left WM (Touch HD) for an iphone (32GB 3GS)....however, I'm going to be switching back to WM as soon as the HD2 is available because as much as the iphone is an incredible interface...I find it's functionality to be lacking.
now, sadly...I have fallen in love with the apps store. I was amazed at the range and quality of the apps available...like the advert says, 'there's an app for that'. and it's true there is an app for just about everything...and I've found some great ones that I really want on my new WM device.
so, is there a site anywhere that will let me find WM comparable apps to the iphone? I can type in a name of an app available on the iphone and it will give me WM versions?
if not...should I build one? would anyone be interested such a site?

Microsoft is going to open their own "AppStore", called Marketplace for Windows Mobile, in two days.
The HD2 will already have it preinstalled.
However, it is not known currently how many applications will be there when it launches.
Apart from the built in Marketplace, you can find applications here at xda-developers and at sites like handango.com, mobihand.com, pocketgear.com, freewareppc.com and many others.
There's not as many applications for WM as there are for the iPhone, but since I recently switched back from the iPhone 3G to the Touch HD myself, I can tell you that I don't miss anything.
I think with WM6.5 and the Marketplace, the number of quality applications for WM will grow rapidly.

I am looking forward to the MS app store, as the iphone one is a dream to use. so I REALLY hope it's up to scratch.
I can think of a few apps that I'm going to miss hugely though.
1) facebook....considering how much MS paid for a piece of facebook, you would have thought that they'd built a decent app to give access to it
2) Sky tv. I have an iphone ap that allows me to scroll through program and then just select one to record...simples....however there is no such app available for WM sadly

Windows Mobile 6.5 actually has a decent Facebook app built in.
And the newest version of TouchFlo 3D, as you'll find it on the HD2, will take Facebook a lot further than what you can have on the iPhone, with direct integration into your contacts list (same for Twitter, Flickr and Youtube). This, like so many other things, will never be possible on an iPhone, because of Apple's restrictions.
Notice the Facebook logo among all the other WM apps:
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I don't know what Sky tv is, so I can't help you with that one, sorry.

thanks for the pointer...I will have to apologise for mentioning the iphone so many times in my recent posts...I am a WM fan at heart, but I just hope it can become the all conquering OS that it should be.
and apple would be all conquering, IF they let people customise their phones instead of locking them all down.
still...come on HD2.....I am ready and waiting with cash!!