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[Q] Won't Go Into Recovery Just Shows Red Triangle With Red Exclamation Mark.

Brand new Thunderbolt, I did have it rooted but just factory reset it, I no longer have root. I hold down the power button and BOTH volume arrows and get into the screen for recovery, when I go to it it gives me a black screen with a pic of a phone in the middle with a red triangle and a red exclamation mark over top the phone.
I want to root and get a new kernel but think it would not be smart to proceed until I fix this problem. Jeesh, had it less than 12 hours and broke it already haha.
So, how do I get it to let me in there so I can make a nandroid backup?

I'm pretty certain you need to be rooted to access recovery.

Well, last night when I WAS rooted I tried it and it didn't work either. Well, I will try that tonight around 5PM EST and let you know if rooting allows me in. Honestly, I factory reset the phone after I rooted it because I thought the way I rooted it messed it up. Now I am thinking that is not true.

You have to be rooted to get into recovery. Also, and I am not 100% sure about this, if you did a factory re-set and didnt re-root and then reinstall CWR then there wont be a recovery for you to access.

You're looking at the stock recovery. You need to reroot and flash CWM to be able to install custom zips.
Sent from my Thunderbolt.

theincrediblenoob said:
Brand new Thunderbolt, I did have it rooted but just factory reset it, I no longer have root. I hold down the power button and BOTH volume arrows and get into the screen for recovery, when I go to it it gives me a black screen with a pic of a phone in the middle with a red triangle and a red exclamation mark over top the phone.
I want to root and get a new kernel but think it would not be smart to proceed until I fix this problem. Jeesh, had it less than 12 hours and broke it already haha.
So, how do I get it to let me in there so I can make a nandroid backup?
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A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.

Ok, here is what I did, i took a factory thunderbolt and followed all the directions on this link.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo.../1233-rs-guide-how-root-your-thunderbolt.html
Then, I downloaded rom manager and busybox and was about to try and install a kernal. I wanted to make a nandroid back up and thats when I noticed this problem. I also think I lost my 3g access then too. So, I went to factory reset and then tested the root checker app and it said I had NO ROOT.
I am rather noobish so please make the directions on how to fix this simple HAHA. I am also wondering if the link above has good root instructions and how would I install a kernel on the thunderbolt? Even a link to a thunderbolt kernel thread would be sweet!! THanks!!
I will wait for someone to let me know if that link is any good before I root with it again.

dbisch said:
A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.
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Honestly, idk what that is.. Sry, the only other phone i rooted was my incredible through the one step Unrevoked method.
I think the directions in the link above might have missed something that a noob like me would not have picked up on. Something you guys prolly would have known right away.

Go to xda Tbolt dev section, find the root how-to thread and re-root
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theincrediblenoob said:
Honestly, idk what that is.. Sry, the only other phone i rooted was my incredible through the one step Unrevoked method.
I think the directions in the link above might have missed something that a noob like me would not have picked up on. Something you guys prolly would have known right away.
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CMW is ClockworkMod Recovery. It's the recovery you flash in ROM Manager.
Follow this thread for rooting. There's a few other methods in the development section that have scripts so you don't have to manually push through ABD. Doing it yourself is more fail safe though and also a good learning experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616

dbisch said:
CMW is ClockworkMod Recovery. It's the recovery you flash in ROM Manager.
Follow this thread for rooting. There's a few other methods in the development section that have scripts so you don't have to manually push through ABD. Doing it yourself is more fail safe though and also a good learning experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
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What about the link in my original post that I used to root? Any good?

theincrediblenoob said:
Then, I downloaded rom manager and busybox
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Downloading Rom Manager is NOT installing custom recovery but a way to do so.
Once RM is installed open it up & choose Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. That will install the latest recovery from which you can run backups and such.

feedhead said:
Downloading Rom Manager is NOT installing custom recovery but a way to do so.
Once RM is installed open it up & choose Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. That will install the latest recovery from which you can run backups and such.
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See, now when I did my incredible I never even downloaded rom manager. I don't even know what it really does. I thought I held up and power when turning on to get into the menu and I was able to make the nandroid backup from that menu somewhere?

dbisch said:
A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.
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What do you mean exactly by flashing CWM ? I just followed the instructions that the link gave me to do. If you wanna check it out i included the below
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo.../1233-rs-guide-how-root-your-thunderbolt.html

So... Just my 2 cents. You said you downloaded clockworks and busy box, but I never saw you reference super user. That should have been download number 1 after root. Without that, you're not doing anything.

bking_soda said:
So... Just my 2 cents. You said you downloaded clockworks and busy box, but I never saw you reference super user. That should have been download number 1 after root. Without that, you're not doing anything.
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Yes, I did get that one too. I just rerooted it and now I am looking at the main screen in the rom manager again. What should I do? I do not have busy box, I have rom manager, superuser and root access. I keep hearing something about flashing clockworkrecovery next?? Like does that mean just click on the box in rom manager?

theincrediblenoob said:
I keep hearing something about flashing clockworkrecovery next?? Like does that mean just click on the box in rom manager?
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In ROM Manager if you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", Rom Manager will do just that.
It will flash your recovery.

MePascal said:
In ROM Manager if you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", Rom Manager will do just that.
It will flash your recovery.
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Ok I guess I am not fully understanding this. What does it really mean to "flash" your "recovery"?
Does this mean to make a copy of your current phone, like a nandroid backup? Or does it mean to access a copy you have already made and revert your system to that prior copy? Or am I wrong on both?

theincrediblenoob said:
Ok I guess I am not fully understanding this. What does it really mean to "flash" your "recovery"?
Does this mean to make a copy of your current phone, like a nandroid backup? Or does it mean to access a copy you have already made and revert your system to that prior copy? Or am I wrong on both?
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The answer to your first question of the first link being any good...that would be a big NO. Your phone never rooted from the start due to faulty directions posted. As far as flashing a recovery from clockworkmod that basically means when you need to get to the recovery screen this is the program that will bring you there with the understanding that you flash the recovery. NOW to do that there is an option at the top of the screen which says
" Flash ClockworkMod Recovery "
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
Once you flash it will show this:
Flash CLockworkMod Recovery
Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.3.5
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
TO FLASH YOU SIMPLY SELECT THIS BOX AND IT WILL BRING UP A SCREEN TO CONFIRM PHONE MODEL AND THEN WILL ASK FOR SUPERUSER PERMISSION WHICH YOU MUST GRANT ACCESS TO AT ALL TIMES.

KDKobes said:
The answer to your first question of the first link being any good...that would be a big NO. Your phone never rooted from the start due to faulty directions posted. As far as flashing a recovery from clockworkmod that basically means when you need to get to the recovery screen this is the program that will bring you there with the understanding that you flash the recovery. NOW to do that there is an option at the top of the screen which says
" Flash ClockworkMod Recovery "
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
Once you flash it will show this:
Flash CLockworkMod Recovery
Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.3.5
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
TO FLASH YOU SIMPLY SELECT THIS BOX AND IT WILL BRING UP A SCREEN TO CONFIRM PHONE MODEL AND THEN WILL ASK FOR SUPERUSER PERMISSION WHICH YOU MUST GRANT ACCESS TO AT ALL TIMES.
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What is wrong with the link above?? I used it last night to root the phone and according to root checker I have root... I am not second guessing you, I am just wanting to know what is wrong with it so I can fix the wrong or add the missed steps so I dont have issues.

CWM won't stick...Even with locked bootloader

I rooted according the directions found here: http://www.droidfiles.us/nexus-s-4g/root-nexus-s-4g/ after getting a new Nexus S 4G.
Even after locking the bootloader. It goes to the Android-with-box then to the Exclaimation-point-inside triangle. When I volume-up and power-button from that screen, an "Android Recovery <3e>" comes up...
Does anyone know what might be going on? And how do I get my custom recovery to stick?

Well, that's my post, so ill try to help. First, and don't take this the wrong way, but did you follow those instructions to a T? When you boot into bootloader, your pushing CWM to you phone with the fastboot command?
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

mikeyinid said:
Well, that's my post, so ill try to help. First, and don't take this the wrong way, but did you follow those instructions to a T? When you boot into bootloader, your pushing CWM to you phone with the fastboot command?
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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No offense taken...it's a valid questions since humans have trouble following directions.
To answer your Q, yes, I followed it to a tee. I'm going to retry now...from scratch. Gonna load the stock imgs and go from the beginning...

TonyArmstrong said:
No offense taken...it's a valid questions since humans have trouble following directions.
To answer your Q, yes, I followed it to a tee. I'm going to retry now...from scratch. Gonna load the stock imgs and go from the beginning...
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Apparently alot of people have this issue, me included. I seen some posts about using root explorer to change the name of the recovery image if it shows up in system /ext. Sounds crazy but I hear it doesn't show up on all phone's. IV come to terms with having to fastboot every time I flash but I'd love to see a fix. Have you tried Amons recovery?

TonyArmstrong said:
No offense taken...it's a valid questions since humans have trouble following directions.
To answer your Q, yes, I followed it to a tee. I'm going to retry now...from scratch. Gonna load the stock imgs and go from the beginning...
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Have you flashed recovery through Rommanager when your phone boots up?

You have to flash a non-stock kernel, the recovery gets overwritten on reboot. So if you flash CWM and reboot without flashing a custom kernel you will be back to stock recovery.
Edit: oops maybe I was wrong lol, maybe it isnt the kernel. im assuming you flashed the recovery in fastboot?

mbh87 said:
You have to flash a non-stock kernel, the recovery gets overwritten on reboot. So if you flash CWM and reboot without flashing a custom kernel you will be back to stock recovery.
Edit: oops maybe I was wrong lol, maybe it isnt the kernel. im assuming you flashed the recovery in fastboot?
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No, I dont think your wrong bro. It makes sense. Ill test your theory soon.

Tony, when you push CWM, are you able to boot into recovery by hitting volume down twice to recovery and hitting power? If so, I suggest you flash this ROM. Its stock rooted and you will not have problems with CWM sticking. You dont even have to wipe to flash it...

I've read on some methods for rooting that there is a file /system/etc/install-recovery.sh (or something like that, should be able to find it by mounting system in recovery and adb shell ls /system/etc then using adb shell rm -r /system/etc/install-recovery.sh).
Though after I fastboot flashed the recovery, booted into recovery, did a nandroid, I formatted /system before I flashed CM7, so that would've killed the file anyways.

david1171 said:
I've read on some methods for rooting that there is a file /system/etc/install-recovery.sh (or something like that, should be able to find it by mounting system in recovery and adb shell ls /system/etc then using adb shell rm -r /system/etc/install-recovery.sh).
Though after I fastboot flashed the recovery, booted into recovery, did a nandroid, I formatted /system before I flashed CM7, so that would've killed the file anyways.
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I just had CWM, never had any issues. Im not sure what dictates whether that file is there or not. Im guessing that since tony is so quiet though he got it figured out..

whats amazing is i dont have this script and its one of the things holding the one click up :x
also its part of init.rc so technically a new kernel would.. in theory wipe that out...

mikeyinid said:
Have you flashed recovery through Rommanager when your phone boots up?
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I did flash CWM through Rom Manager. That didn't work the first few times. It stalled...

mikeyinid said:
Tony, when you push CWM, are you able to boot into recovery by hitting volume down twice to recovery and hitting power? If so, I suggest you flash this ROM. Its stock rooted and you will not have problems with CWM sticking. You dont even have to wipe to flash it...
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I got it to stick -- or at least i thought I had it. I followed the initial instructions provided in a previous thread. And per the instructions, I download Rom Manager and I installed CWM through it (again).
I'm going to wipe my phone fully -- reinstall the base 2.3.4 with the the stock recovery, via the IMG files for GRJ22 and start over...See what happens then.

Wait, I'm confused. Why would you flash stock images when your already stock? If you follow the instructions in the link you posted in the op there is no reason you shouldn't be rooted. Have you actually even booted into recovery?
TonyArmstrong said:
I got it to stick -- or at least i thought I had it. I followed the initial instructions provided in a previous thread. And per the instructions, I download Rom Manager and I installed CWM through it (again).
I'm going to wipe my phone fully -- reinstall the base 2.3.4 with the the stock recovery, via the IMG files for GRJ22 and start over...See what happens then.
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Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

I realllyyy don't suggest flashing a recovery with rom manager. I'm not bashing ROM Manager, I'm a paid user, but the way that it flashes recoveries is unsafe. I've had it almost brick my Evo and I've seen it brick other phones.
Just use fastboot... if you can't get that working, you probably shouldn't be messing with the phone.

mikeyinid said:
Wait, I'm confused. Why would you flash stock images when your already stock? If you follow the instructions in the link you posted in the op there is no reason you shouldn't be rooted. Have you actually even booted into recovery?
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I'm rooted successfully. I feel more comfortable (with recovery acting flaky) with unrooting and starting over from scratch...
Call me kooky, but a bone-stock unrooted phone with no user data, no nothing, is how I got it, so why not return it to that state and start over. That's the only way I know to insure that whatever I do is not influenced by any data, bad file permissions, etc. that could hose rooting and installing recovery.

TonyArmstrong said:
I'm rooted successfully. I feel more comfortable (with recovery acting flaky) with unrooting and starting over from scratch...
Call me kooky, but a bone-stock unrooted phone with no user data, no nothing, is how I got it, so why not return it to that state and start over. That's the only way I know to insure that whatever I do is not influenced by any data, bad file permissions, etc. that could hose rooting and installing recovery.
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OCD, I know the feeling lol. What got it to stick?

derekwilkinson said:
I realllyyy don't suggest flashing a recovery with rom manager. I'm not bashing ROM Manager, I'm a paid user, but the way that it flashes recoveries is unsafe. I've had it almost brick my Evo and I've seen it brick other phones.
Just use fastboot... if you can't get that working, you probably shouldn't be messing with the phone.
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I used fastboot to install CWM initially (fastboot flash recovery recovery-xxxxx.zip -- can't remember the filename right now). The directions for rooting the NS4G state explicitly to use ROM Manager to flash the recovery to "make sure it sticks" after initially pushing it to the phone via fastboot.
It's obviously a hack, but apparently it works more often than it fails.
I'm a paid user of ROM Manager as well. I have to admit, it was fine to flash Amon Ra to my Evo. Since I'm new(er) to the NS4G, I'm going to defer to those with more expertise and follow the directions given.

TonyArmstrong said:
I used fastboot to install CWM initially (fastboot flash recovery recovery-xxxxx.zip -- can't remember the filename right now). The directions for rooting the NS4G state explicitly to use ROM Manager to flash the recovery to "make sure it sticks" after initially pushing it to the phone via fastboot.
It's obviously a hack, but apparently it works more often than it fails.
I'm a paid user of ROM Manager as well. I have to admit, it was fine to flash Amon Ra to my Evo. Since I'm new(er) to the NS4G, I'm going to defer to those with more expertise and follow the directions given.
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well the "make sure it sticks" flashing with rom manager doesn't make any sense. the only way the recovery would be overwritten is if the ROM you flash over writes it or in fastboot

mikeyinid said:
OCD, I know the feeling lol. What got it to stick?
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Yeah, I'm very anal when it comes to this kind of stuff...I was a developer for a little bit (Java middleware, then on to the front-end stuff) where regression testing was important. Sometimes, it's best to reload things piece by piece to see what breaks what. Then go from there.
I haven't gotten it to stick yet; gonna get some sleep and start over tomorrow. I used fastboot to push the stock boot, bootloader, system, recovery, and userdata IMGs a moment ago, and the phone is back to bone stock.

I hate me [n00b question]

So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. Unlocking the bootloader is needed to flash CWM and SU. I have read many many things about NANDROID, how is NANDROID different from CWM?
So I guess my next question is: How does one remove SU? In the process of rooting and flashing CWM and ROMs I make a backup prior to going to deep... that Backup will have SU, I have unrooted, but SU is still on the phone and I cannot seem to remove it.
Another question is: where are the data files on the phone for apps like Plants vs Zombies? I would like to move them off my phone prior to root, though I'm not sure if that is possible (is it?).
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead

toonhead85 said:
So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. This process is needed to flash CWM (but not -su?). I have read many many things about NANDROID, but I have no idea what that is except a backup of a stock rom. When I power my phone off and press Vol up and power on then go to recovery I get an Android w/ a triangle with an exclamation and cant do anything at that point.
So I guess my next question is: How does one backup a stock rom (like you would using CMW) without rooting? or is there not a way and I should just except that when I root for the first time I should expect to loose everything and take off things like pics ect before hand.
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead
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Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet

obsanity said:
Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet
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i was going to write something similar. toonhead85 you should do a bit more research and reading before you start hacking on your phone. youve hearts in the right place, but youre not quite ready just yet. at least take small steps at first

A little more clarification or nandroid backups:
Nandroid is a specific type of backup of the phone's system files. I think that includes system rom and radio. I not sure if any data is included in the backup. You should make a nandroid backup of the stock rom bbefore you flash any custom roms. If something goes wrong with a rom flash or if you want to restore to a previous stock or custom rom, you can restore from the backups you have made. You create these nandroid backups by booting into recovery and selecting the backup option (I think maybe named backup and restore). Backups are usually found on your SD card, but you can copy them to your computer to save additional copies.
If you want to also backup apps, get a good backup program from the market. Two that I have used are Titanium Backup for Root and MyBackups for Root. They can backup and restore apps and data as well as system data.

Thanks for all of the amazing replys. I do know that I am not at the point where I wanna muck around in the system to much as this is my one and only phone. But I would like to at some point.
But something I wanna know is this: If in flash CWM, can I use it without root? Say to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing SU? I only ask because I am currently at work and can't test the idea.
Another question is this: I know how to get to the stock recovery, but from what I read you use the VOL UP to get the "Menu". When I push any (hardware) button I get nothing and the image being displayed is an Android with a triangle and there is an exclimation point in it. Any thoughts?

a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring

simms22 said:
a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring
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and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?

toonhead85 said:
and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
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unlocked bootloader

FANTASTIC!!! Thank you all so very much!!

simms22 said:
unlocked bootloader
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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So I could flash unlock my bootloader > flash CWM > Make a backup and save it to my computer then when i reboot my phone it would automatically reflash the stock recovery? and if this is correct, then all i would need to do is flash CWM to restore the saved backup?
So here's a question, is it the action of flashing SU that keeps the phone from removing CWM and reinstalling stock recovery?

You must rename the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh file or it will keep replacing the stock recovery. See this post, item 2.

Simple root for the i9023 with 4.0.4?

Has anyone tried to root their i9023 with 4.0.4 using doomlord's easy rooting toolkit? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I tried it when I had 2.3.6 and it worked perfectly but want to update to 4.0.4 now.
If doomlord's doesn't work, is there any similar one click rooting? Also, when I rooted, it didn't erase my data and apps. Will that be the same? Thanks

I guess not. Been searching and couldn't find a non-destructive one and one as a simple click without needing cwm.

There's none that I am aware of. However, it's not really that complicated to flash the right SU zip, and if you don't want to flash cwm you can simply fastboot boot cwm.img and it will leave stock recovery intact and ready after you flashed everything.
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Couple things if you're already rooted on gingerbread do a nandroid back up. Put that and anything else you want to keep on your computer. Unlock the bootloader and restore your backup and update.
Stop messing around and unlock the bootloader.

albundy2010 said:
Couple things if you're already rooted on gingerbread do a nandroid back up. Put that and anything else you want to keep on your computer. Unlock the bootloader and restore your backup and update.
Stop messing around and unlock the bootloader.
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How can he do a backup if the bootloader is locked = no cwm recovery? He's out of luck. Best thing he can do is backup the SD card and that's it. The rest is lost
Edit: failed to read sorry. Didn't notice the gingerbread part. Anyway if he's on stock and one clicked rooted he still doesn't have cwm so he can't make a nandroid, he can use titanium backup and save apps and data.
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If he is stock rooted he can flash cwm in the os. Either through rom manager or terminal

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If he is stock rooted he can flash cwm in the os. Either through rom manager or terminal
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I thought that locked bootloader prevented the flash of any kind of unsigned .img even if you have root.
Guess i was wrong ;D
That's what you get when your first step with an android phone is unlock the bootloader

Not a one size fits all. Some phones all you need is root to flash a custom recovery and roms/kernels.
Others it can be a mess. Like the HTC g2 or even now the one x on att. Got the entire s on/ s off encryption nonsense and so on.

DeuXGod said:
I thought that locked bootloader prevented the flash of any kind of unsigned .img even if you have root.
Guess i was wrong ;D
That's what you get when your first step with an android phone is unlock the bootloader
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He can flash a new recovery through the OS if he has root access only. Unlocked bootloader only provides fastboot support.
If you are fully stock (bootloader, recovery, no su), the only current way to root 4.0.4 is to have an unlocked bootloader.

albundy2010 said:
Not a one size fits all. Some phones all you need is root to flash a custom recovery and roms/kernels.
Others it can be a mess. Like the HTC g2 or even now the one x on att. Got the entire s on/ s off encryption nonsense and so on.
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Yeah that's what make my confusion. My old HTC Magic needed unlocked bootloader to flash a recovery.
Harbb said:
He can flash a new recovery through the OS if he has root access only. Unlocked bootloader only provides fastboot support.
If you are fully stock (bootloader, recovery, no su), the only current way to root 4.0.4 is to have an unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah about that i was pretty sure you needed unlocked bootloader, but about CWM flash i was convinced that you needed also unlocked bootloader, but as stated above, it's just for some devices.

Thank to all that responded. All this talk just flew over my head ... guess that's what I get for using simple one clicks
Let me try to straighten some stuff out.
How would I use titanium backup?
Do I titanium backup while it's still on gingerbread or after I OTA the ics 4.0.4?
Edit: duh! I can't use Ti backup after OTA ics because phone not rooted yet.
After backing up with Ti, I thought any attempt to root will erase all. Does the Ti backup not get erased?
Ti backup only backs up my app and the data to those apps, not how I customize my homescreen's widgets and notification bar, right?
So, I would have to do all that stuff over?
If I don't want to unlock bootloader or install cwm, any way to root and leave stock recovery intact?
Lazer Bear posted "if you don't want to flash cwm you can simply fastboot boot cwm.img and it will leave stock recovery intact and ready after you flashed everything."
Is that possible and how do I do it? Does that erase everything too?
Thanks to all!

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Making my own recovery

I am successfully rooted (thanks Hasoon2000 and everyone else who makes it possible) but I have a couple more questions.
1. I tried flashing my own recovery but I can't find it? I used Hasoon's toolkit. I used (Your Own Recovery). It went into bootloader screen and then rebooted. Could I have done something wrong? I'd like to make sure I have a recovery.
2. Could someone explain APK installer? I know it's for backing up things but isn't that what Titanium Backup is (Google Play)?
3. Could I please get a quick guide on ways to learn Superuser? I installed it, it's there but I don't want to mess with something I'm not 100% familiar with. I hate searching on the Internet for things sometimes. Too much misinformation!
Thank you all very much for being patient with a NOOB!
Jon

You made a recovery? Just install twrp through fastboot...
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Backing up apps is titaniums smallest pro ...it backs up your app data and you can freeze and mess with system apps it.does much more than just backing up...and for superuser if you have att you should already have root privileges...if you have a non att one xl you'll have to flash a recovery than flash root but it.sounds like you're on att.... Superuser grants you root rights
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Google will give you more info than anyone here

Yes I was in twrp already as per the video and instructions. I think I'm a bit confused still on .IMG backup. I tried flashing one, it went through the reboot and then that was it. Maybe I'm getting confused on flashing recoveries.
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If you haven't already I recommend flashing twrp in the same toolkit. if your phone acts strangely and you back your phone up with stock rooted you can flash back to your normal stock rooted and then wipe and install another rom from their. All Superuser is (anyone correct me if I don't get the basic stuff right) is a program that grants specific rights to apps that require root access. Then get perm rooted if you have not already flash superuser and then perm root in the toolkit or install it (SU)in Google play. To check if you are rooted install root checker off Google play then superuser should come up and you can grant it access... Hope I helped someone who views this thread. If so click thanks

Now if you want to flash a rom and you have a HTC one xl version of 2.20 you have to drag the rom you installed to your computer desktop, extract boot img and drag that to your phone( plug phone in via usb and mount phone to computer should come up) Do NOT do this in recovery as it will wipe your stuff..) then install the full rom with the same process. The 2 easiest roms to install I think are cleanrom (wipe phone and install, boot img is in installer land and their are directions I think and viper one xl (installer does everything for you) if and only IF your phone is not the international version one x. (quad core) is the non international version is dual core. Make sure your phone is dual core in these forums. (HTC one xl).. Have fun p.s before flashing another rom a full wipe and clean cache and dalvik is recommended. Only on roms that require a wipe before flashing, flashing roms is easy you just have to READ.

Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it. So what I did was flash my own recovery (already did twrp). Phone was ready to use. Then I flashed my own recovery. But I didn't see where that recovery went. That's moronically my problem. Hahaha. Yes. I'm certainly in the right forum. Att HOX, dual core. I am just rooted right now, haven't done a Rom yet.
Sorry for sounding like a dope.
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You made a recovery like twrp...? If you can access twrp from bootloader then I am sure you are able to flash roms from their.. You don't need another recovery If you have twrp...

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You made a recovery like twrp...? If you can access twrp from bootloader then I am sure you are able to flash roms from their.. You don't need another recovery If you have twrp...
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Lol that's what I was wondering...I don't think (no offense to op) but has the skills I mean neither do I and a huge percent of xda to make a recovery by themselves I think he just means twrp

Again, I'm obviously confused. I thought a recovery was in case there was a bad malfunction and I needed to wipe everything and reinstall a backup. Like an image for a computer or simply reloading the OS. Yes, I'm a novice noob at this. Nothing compared to jailbreaking an iPhone. That was as easy as breathing.
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ToxicWaste said:
Again, I'm obviously confused. I thought a recovery was in case there was a bad malfunction and I needed to wipe everything and reinstall a backup. Like an image for a computer or simply reloading the OS. Yes, I'm a novice noob at this. Nothing compared to jailbreaking an iPhone. That was as easy as breathing.
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Recovery = TWRP
Backup = In case of malfunction
Recovery aka TWRP is where you flash your roms. You need to read a bit more before you mess your phone up. DO NOT FLASH INTERNATIONAL HTC ONE X ROMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your phone will be a paperweight
If you want some more help send me a private message with your gtalk

Haha... No its easier then you think it is.. If you know how to get to recovery (twrp)from bootloader you can make backups in twrp and it will make backups of your phone for you.. And you can name them If you want. If you don't know how to get into recovery from bootloader itself.. Hold down Power and volume down until the capacative buttons stop flashing( 3 buttons that are lit) and then hold vol down until you see htc men on skateboards, and then go to recovery from their.. Then their should be back up option and restore and install. Etc.. Do not touch mount as you can drag roms to your phone just by connecting it via usb.. But before you do ANYTHING backup your current stock rooted so you have something to fall back on..

Backup!!! That was the word I was thinking of and I can't imagine why I couldn't think of the word. Yes. So I can go into twrp and make a backup of my current rooted phone there. Then I can save it to my computer in the data file I used to unlock/root.
Yes I do know how to get into recovery. I can use the tool to go to bootloader screen or do the hardware button method. I've gotten pretty good at it with all the snags I ran in to during the unlocking/rooting procedure.
I would like to say I wish to remain stock rooted for now. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I would take the cool plunge in to flashing Roms. That seems like the harder part.
Thanks for all the replies and explanations!
Jon

ToxicWaste said:
Backup!!! That was the word I was thinking of and I can't imagine why I couldn't think of the word. Yes. So I can go into twrp and make a backup of my current rooted phone there. Then I can save it to my computer in the data file I used to unlock/root.
Yes I do know how to get into recovery. I can use the tool to go to bootloader screen or do the hardware button method. I've gotten pretty good at it with all the snags I ran in to during the unlocking/rooting procedure.
I would like to say I wish to remain stock rooted for now. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I would take the cool plunge in to flashing Roms. That seems like the harder part.
Thanks for all the replies and explanations!
Jon
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ToxicWaste said:
I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I would take the cool plunge in to flashing Roms.
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Good idea and I'm glad I could help.