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clockwork mod, booting question

I read that for those of us that installed clockworkmod on our G2x using Rom Manager, that we can't boot into recovery other than with Rom manager or that other recovery boot app.
If we want to be able to boot into recovery from bootlooping or some issue like that we need to flash it the Nvflash way? Is this correct?
I've had to manually enter recovery on my N1 a few times, and if I can't do that on the G2x that would seem not as safe for when flashing n such. Thanks!

I actually have both NvFlash method and RomManager method. In an emergency situation it is going to be better to use the NvFlash method that way you can use the 2 button method to enter recovery in case you cannot boot your rom. Of course RomManager has a newer version so I dont know if that has any advantages. I mean there is always ADB if you get into serious trouble but for some reason I just cannot get it to push any files even though it does recognize the phone.

Use Nvflash so you can hold volume down and power until you see ANDROID on the screen.

Rusty! said:
Hold volume down and power until you see ANDROID on the screen.
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uhhh, isn't that a hard reset?

Nope, try it and see (backup first if you're paranoid )

Rusty! said:
Nope, try it and see (backup first if you're paranoid )
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Isn't that for nvflash method only though?
Sent from my G2x

Mine is an O2X, but I've never used NVFLash for recovery, I dd'd it the first time, and use ROM Manager to flash it subsequent times.
V- & Power worked on all 3 versions I've had installed.

jrharvey said:
I actually have both NvFlash method and RomManager method. In an emergency situation it is going to be better to use the NvFlash method that way you can use the 2 button method to enter recovery in case you cannot boot your rom. Of course RomManager has a newer version so I dont know if that has any advantages. I mean there is always ADB if you get into serious trouble but for some reason I just cannot get it to push any files even though it does recognize the phone.
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Which method did you do first?
I'm assuming NVFlash should be done first just to be sure

moshe22 said:
Which method did you do first?
I'm assuming NVFlash should be done first just to be sure
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i did Rom manager first witch made a fakeflash file( bad news if you get bootloops cuz you cant get into recovery via buttons ONLY within the OS)
then i did nvflash after he made that cute little video (works fine after installing CWM with rom manager!)
already flashed eagleblood 1.0
and using pauls service.jar file!!

To nvflash the latest CWM recovery, grab it here.
Then edit the command to show this instead of the test recovery that everyone has been using.
Code:
nvflash --bct E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct --bl fastboot.bin --download 5 recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.7-lge_p999.img
nvflash > RM (for now )

Rusty! said:
Mine is an O2X, but I've never used NVFLash for recovery, I dd'd it the first time, and use ROM Manager to flash it subsequent times.
V- & Power worked on all 3 versions I've had installed.
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On the G2x that will initiate a factory reset unless you've install CWR through nvflash

Interesting.
ROM Manager on the O2X will properly flash a new recovery, not a fake flash as it appears to do so on the G2X.
The key combo will also wipe an O2X that is running stock recovery, but who has one of them

Rusty! said:
Interesting.
ROM Manager on the O2X will properly flash a new recovery, not a fake flash as it appears to do so on the G2X.
The key combo will also wipe an O2X that is running stock recovery, but who has one of them
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i think you should get your facts straight, although you have a O2x it still not completely identical to g2x
if you did the button combo without flashing cwm via nvflash then on the g2x will factory reset. your posts assume that every1 used this method already when majority still have the stock recovery.
without specifying you could of just advised noobs to do a factory reset

Indeed, when I saw that ROM Manager had support for both phones, I assumed it performed the same. Think I'll add a disclaimer to my earlier post, just in case.

Yup... Volume down + Power on a G2x that has recovery via Rom Manager and NOT Nvflash will cause a factory reset.
Good thing I had a nandroid to restore to. lol
Oh and that factory reset does *NOT* remove root, or it didn't in my case, Superuser was still installed also. lol

I know this is off topic, but where are you getting 7Mb/s in Vegas?
I only get about half that. I'm in N. Vegas though.
Nevermind. I just hit 12 somehow. haha

xguntherc said:
Oh and that factory reset does *NOT* remove root, or it didn't in my case, Superuser was still installed also. lol
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Yeah that's normal, root files are on /system, factory reset only nukes /data

ok heres the big deal i noticed: and its the scary part!
If you just download ROM MANGER and FLASH RECOVERY thru that program, you will not have any options for a hardware recovery. Keep in mind this is NOT a dev phone! So dont think of it as one!
From the factory, when you hold vol down and power you basically perform a hard reset. If you flash clockwork recovery through NVFlash whenever you take battery out, put in, hold vol down and press and hold volume down and power until the android screen comes on, you will always have a way to recover your rom! So baically you need to nvflash the recovery. TRUST ME! Learn this! It's not hard. I can help you.
This is the reason nx1's and nxs's can not be bricked, is anytime you flash a recovery it "WILL NOT STICK". I know it sounds tough but its pure genius.
With pur phones that is not an option unless you know code. Trust me if i can do it so can anyone else.

It's pretty easy to brick a Nexus, just botch a radio flash
It's also simple to stop them reverting to stock recovery, just remove the install-recovery.sh file, most people do it.

[Q] Won't Go Into Recovery Just Shows Red Triangle With Red Exclamation Mark.

Brand new Thunderbolt, I did have it rooted but just factory reset it, I no longer have root. I hold down the power button and BOTH volume arrows and get into the screen for recovery, when I go to it it gives me a black screen with a pic of a phone in the middle with a red triangle and a red exclamation mark over top the phone.
I want to root and get a new kernel but think it would not be smart to proceed until I fix this problem. Jeesh, had it less than 12 hours and broke it already haha.
So, how do I get it to let me in there so I can make a nandroid backup?

I'm pretty certain you need to be rooted to access recovery.

Well, last night when I WAS rooted I tried it and it didn't work either. Well, I will try that tonight around 5PM EST and let you know if rooting allows me in. Honestly, I factory reset the phone after I rooted it because I thought the way I rooted it messed it up. Now I am thinking that is not true.

You have to be rooted to get into recovery. Also, and I am not 100% sure about this, if you did a factory re-set and didnt re-root and then reinstall CWR then there wont be a recovery for you to access.

You're looking at the stock recovery. You need to reroot and flash CWM to be able to install custom zips.
Sent from my Thunderbolt.

theincrediblenoob said:
Brand new Thunderbolt, I did have it rooted but just factory reset it, I no longer have root. I hold down the power button and BOTH volume arrows and get into the screen for recovery, when I go to it it gives me a black screen with a pic of a phone in the middle with a red triangle and a red exclamation mark over top the phone.
I want to root and get a new kernel but think it would not be smart to proceed until I fix this problem. Jeesh, had it less than 12 hours and broke it already haha.
So, how do I get it to let me in there so I can make a nandroid backup?
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A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.

Ok, here is what I did, i took a factory thunderbolt and followed all the directions on this link.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo.../1233-rs-guide-how-root-your-thunderbolt.html
Then, I downloaded rom manager and busybox and was about to try and install a kernal. I wanted to make a nandroid back up and thats when I noticed this problem. I also think I lost my 3g access then too. So, I went to factory reset and then tested the root checker app and it said I had NO ROOT.
I am rather noobish so please make the directions on how to fix this simple HAHA. I am also wondering if the link above has good root instructions and how would I install a kernel on the thunderbolt? Even a link to a thunderbolt kernel thread would be sweet!! THanks!!
I will wait for someone to let me know if that link is any good before I root with it again.

dbisch said:
A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.
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Honestly, idk what that is.. Sry, the only other phone i rooted was my incredible through the one step Unrevoked method.
I think the directions in the link above might have missed something that a noob like me would not have picked up on. Something you guys prolly would have known right away.

Go to xda Tbolt dev section, find the root how-to thread and re-root
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

theincrediblenoob said:
Honestly, idk what that is.. Sry, the only other phone i rooted was my incredible through the one step Unrevoked method.
I think the directions in the link above might have missed something that a noob like me would not have picked up on. Something you guys prolly would have known right away.
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CMW is ClockworkMod Recovery. It's the recovery you flash in ROM Manager.
Follow this thread for rooting. There's a few other methods in the development section that have scripts so you don't have to manually push through ABD. Doing it yourself is more fail safe though and also a good learning experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616

dbisch said:
CMW is ClockworkMod Recovery. It's the recovery you flash in ROM Manager.
Follow this thread for rooting. There's a few other methods in the development section that have scripts so you don't have to manually push through ABD. Doing it yourself is more fail safe though and also a good learning experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
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What about the link in my original post that I used to root? Any good?

theincrediblenoob said:
Then, I downloaded rom manager and busybox
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Downloading Rom Manager is NOT installing custom recovery but a way to do so.
Once RM is installed open it up & choose Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. That will install the latest recovery from which you can run backups and such.

feedhead said:
Downloading Rom Manager is NOT installing custom recovery but a way to do so.
Once RM is installed open it up & choose Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. That will install the latest recovery from which you can run backups and such.
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See, now when I did my incredible I never even downloaded rom manager. I don't even know what it really does. I thought I held up and power when turning on to get into the menu and I was able to make the nandroid backup from that menu somewhere?

dbisch said:
A factory reset shouldn't cause you to lose root. That just wipes data/cache. I would return to stock, root again and go from there. There's a thread in the development section on how to return to stock.
Did you flash CWM after rooting??? You can't do **** without that.
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What do you mean exactly by flashing CWM ? I just followed the instructions that the link gave me to do. If you wanna check it out i included the below
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo.../1233-rs-guide-how-root-your-thunderbolt.html

So... Just my 2 cents. You said you downloaded clockworks and busy box, but I never saw you reference super user. That should have been download number 1 after root. Without that, you're not doing anything.

bking_soda said:
So... Just my 2 cents. You said you downloaded clockworks and busy box, but I never saw you reference super user. That should have been download number 1 after root. Without that, you're not doing anything.
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Yes, I did get that one too. I just rerooted it and now I am looking at the main screen in the rom manager again. What should I do? I do not have busy box, I have rom manager, superuser and root access. I keep hearing something about flashing clockworkrecovery next?? Like does that mean just click on the box in rom manager?

theincrediblenoob said:
I keep hearing something about flashing clockworkrecovery next?? Like does that mean just click on the box in rom manager?
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In ROM Manager if you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", Rom Manager will do just that.
It will flash your recovery.

MePascal said:
In ROM Manager if you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", Rom Manager will do just that.
It will flash your recovery.
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Ok I guess I am not fully understanding this. What does it really mean to "flash" your "recovery"?
Does this mean to make a copy of your current phone, like a nandroid backup? Or does it mean to access a copy you have already made and revert your system to that prior copy? Or am I wrong on both?

theincrediblenoob said:
Ok I guess I am not fully understanding this. What does it really mean to "flash" your "recovery"?
Does this mean to make a copy of your current phone, like a nandroid backup? Or does it mean to access a copy you have already made and revert your system to that prior copy? Or am I wrong on both?
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The answer to your first question of the first link being any good...that would be a big NO. Your phone never rooted from the start due to faulty directions posted. As far as flashing a recovery from clockworkmod that basically means when you need to get to the recovery screen this is the program that will bring you there with the understanding that you flash the recovery. NOW to do that there is an option at the top of the screen which says
" Flash ClockworkMod Recovery "
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
Once you flash it will show this:
Flash CLockworkMod Recovery
Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.3.5
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
TO FLASH YOU SIMPLY SELECT THIS BOX AND IT WILL BRING UP A SCREEN TO CONFIRM PHONE MODEL AND THEN WILL ASK FOR SUPERUSER PERMISSION WHICH YOU MUST GRANT ACCESS TO AT ALL TIMES.

KDKobes said:
The answer to your first question of the first link being any good...that would be a big NO. Your phone never rooted from the start due to faulty directions posted. As far as flashing a recovery from clockworkmod that basically means when you need to get to the recovery screen this is the program that will bring you there with the understanding that you flash the recovery. NOW to do that there is an option at the top of the screen which says
" Flash ClockworkMod Recovery "
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
Once you flash it will show this:
Flash CLockworkMod Recovery
Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.3.5
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.5
TO FLASH YOU SIMPLY SELECT THIS BOX AND IT WILL BRING UP A SCREEN TO CONFIRM PHONE MODEL AND THEN WILL ASK FOR SUPERUSER PERMISSION WHICH YOU MUST GRANT ACCESS TO AT ALL TIMES.
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What is wrong with the link above?? I used it last night to root the phone and according to root checker I have root... I am not second guessing you, I am just wanting to know what is wrong with it so I can fix the wrong or add the missed steps so I dont have issues.

[Q] Problem with Clockwork Recovery

Never had this problem on any other phone...
I have my 4G rooted and have adb'ed Clockwork onto it, flashed a new kernal, etc...
the problem i am having is that Clockwork seems to vanish when I try to boot into recovery. If i use ADB and reflash i get it to work, but on the next reboot, I am back to stock android recovery...
Am I doing something wrong that my phone will only run a custom recovery when "tethered"?
My root access is still active...just i have to reflash Clockwork every time i want to flash something or backup.
I am completely confused...

this hasnt happened on any of my nexus s 4g's but it does. there is a way to fix it, im looking for the link now as Ive read it a million times.
if someone doesnt post by the time i find it, ill link it.

Quote: obsanity says:: One other important addition to this, if you wish to run stock ROM rooted, is that you must rename this file after flashing recovery:
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
Stock ROM flashes the stock recovery back to original during bootup if that script runs and detects that recovery has changed.
Thanks to Netarchy over @ XDA for this important tip.
pulled the above post from here: http://www.droidfiles.us/nexus-s-4g/root-nexus-s-4g/
good luck
edit: I used this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071500
and this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819

tailsthecat3 said:
Quote: obsanity says:: One other important addition to this, if you wish to run stock ROM rooted, is that you must rename this file after flashing recovery:
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
Stock ROM flashes the stock recovery back to original during bootup if that script runs and detects that recovery has changed.
Thanks to Netarchy over @ XDA for this important tip.
pulled this post from here: http://www.droidfiles.us/nexus-s-4g/root-nexus-s-4g/
good luck
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Duh...thanks! I would never have thought of that! Thanks for your help! Just noticed a lack of "Thanks" buttons on this board...Used to the Epic board and always clicking a thumbs up.

[Q] a little help

ive been rooted for a long time now, i have a Moto Attrix 2. recently i did the updated to the 2.3.6 but before i did, i went ahead and did the perminent root method. this helped me keep root. now i want to jump into Roms. i'm not new to this. i had a Droid X proir to the Attrix. so i kinda know my way around. sorta..aha, ive read the process of the rom i want to install on to my phone which is supercharge Rom

So do you have a question, I couldn't tell from your post

awe man, i'm sorry about that.
my question...actually the question is about the process needed to be taken. i read thru the steps to flash supercharge rom V5 but, i have no clue to where start from since i have not flash a rom on this device.? so i'm startin off from scretch i'm sorry about that, i shoulda proof read that..lol, before i posted.

Step 1)Install CW recovery from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346977
Step 2) Run it and reboot into recovery
Step 3) MAKE A BACKUP! I repeat MAKE A BACKUP! this is important in case something goes wrong while flashing a new rom you can flash your backup and return your phone to normal.
Once you have learned to do that you can now start flashing roms. Just download the roms and follow the directions in the roms. ALL ROMS REQUIRE CW Recovery to install so you'll get used to it. I just wanted u to follow those 3 steps before you start flashing roms. People forget to make backups and they end up losing all their info.
Read the BEGINNERS GUIDE it has all the info you could ever need.

eL_MeXiCaNo said:
Step 1)Install CW recovery from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346977
Step 2) Run it and reboot into recovery
Step 3) MAKE A BACKUP! I repeat MAKE A BACKUP! this is important in case something goes wrong while flashing a new rom you can flash your backup and return your phone to normal.
Once you have learned to do that you can now start flashing roms. Just download the roms and follow the directions in the roms. ALL ROMS REQUIRE CW Recovery to install so you'll get used to it. I just wanted u to follow those 3 steps before you start flashing roms. People forget to make backups and they end up losing all their info.
Read the BEGINNERS GUIDE it has all the info you could ever need.
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thanks bro, i got that part down, ive been rollin around with a back up for weeks now ..
oh yea and the other thing, when i went and did the forever root before the OTA update, the one thing that didn't update was the baseband.

Droid_Boi86 said:
thanks bro, i got that part down, ive been rollin around with a back up for weeks now ..
oh yea and the other thing, when i went and did the forever root before the OTA update, the one thing that didn't update was the baseband.
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Dont worry about ever doing the forever root there's a root method for 2.3.6
Before flashing any rom I suggest you flash the 2.3.5 FXZ and update to 2.3.6 and then root it. This way you start from a fresh base and don't have any random bugs that would take a long time to hunt down and fix due to coming from a non-stock rom.

Ask away. What questions do you have? I recommend installing CWM on Recovery zip (and download the remove script while your at it you might want that). Revoke root rights to Bootstrap after installing the on boot zip. It takes one cycled reboot for the script to take effect. Make sure it works before installing any ROMs. Read the Read Me file for supercharged before installing. That's a few tips from me. Oh, if you have a windows based PC install and know how to use RSD lite and the fxz file in case of a disaster. In other words incase you can't recover from some unforeseen event using your phone and CWM Recovery alone. Make sure your battery is fully charged before installing a new ROM. Off the top of my head those tips come to mind.
Sent from my MB865 using XDA

KEB64 said:
Ask away. What questions do you have? I recommend installing CWM on Recovery zip (and download the remove script while your at it you might want that). Revoke root rights to Bootstrap after installing the on boot zip. It takes one cycled reboot for the script to take effect. Make sure it works before installing any ROMs. Read the Read Me file for supercharged before installing. That's a few tips from me. Oh, if you have a windows based PC install and know how to use RSD lite and the fxz file in case of a disaster. In other words incase you can't recover from some unforeseen event using your phone and CWM Recovery alone. Make sure your battery is fully charged before installing a new ROM. Off the top of my head those tips come to mind.
Sent from my MB865 using XDA
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whats the reason for denying bootstrap su? ive seen this before and im a 3year android user/flasher and ive yet to deny my bootstrap su after installing anything. so, just wondering why.

rob219 said:
whats the reason for denying bootstrap su? ive seen this before and im a 3year android user/flasher and ive yet to deny my bootstrap su after installing anything. so, just wondering why.
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Because if you dont deny bootstrap SU after FLASHING CWM ON STARTUP zip then you will not get CWM everytime you boot up, it's a bug. So if you want CWM everytime you boot your phone you have to deny bootstrap SU. Other than that IDK the exact technical details on why it does this, it just does.

KEB64 said:
Ask away. What questions do you have? I recommend installing CWM on Recovery zip (and download the remove script while your at it you might want that). Revoke root rights to Bootstrap after installing the on boot zip. It takes one cycled reboot for the script to take effect. Make sure it works before installing any ROMs. Read the Read Me file for supercharged before installing. That's a few tips from me. Oh, if you have a windows based PC install and know how to use RSD lite and the fxz file in case of a disaster. In other words incase you can't recover from some unforeseen event using your phone and CWM Recovery alone. Make sure your battery is fully charged before installing a new ROM. Off the top of my head those tips come to mind.
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thanks alot man, as far as the RSD lite goes i kno my way aroung that. so i should be good. but as for the first thing you suggested. about the CVM on Recovery Zip? i wanna learn how to do that, meaning install CVM properly. if you could explain or shot me a link to where i read up on it.

Droid_Boi86 said:
thanks alot man, as far as the RSD lite goes i kno my way aroung that. so i should be good. but as for the first thing you suggested. about the CVM on Recovery Zip? i wanna learn how to do that, meaning install CVM properly. if you could explain or shot me a link to where i read up on it.
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Sorry KEB - not to step on your toes or anything, but...
Get and install the A2 Bootstrap from here.
You can now boot into "Recovery" mode through the Bootstrap app. You can test it first or you can just go and get the CWM on Boot zip files here. Download the two zip attachments in the first post to your sdcard.
Then open the A2 Bootstapper app - click the top button, then ok, then the 2nd button.. and viola! It will boot into recovery.
Then wipe your cache partition, and dalvik cache, and install zip from sdcard. "...Global..." zip makes it boot into recovery every time you reboot, and the "..Remove.." zip removes it.
Good luck. Happy reading!

alteredlikeness said:
Sorry KEB - not to step on your toes or anything, but...
Get the A2 Bootstrap from here.
Get ROM Manager from the Google Play Store.
Install both.
You can now boot into "Recovery" mode through the Bootstrap app. You can test it first or you can just go and get the CWM on Boot zip files here. Download the two zip attachments in the first post to your sdcard.
Then open the A2 Bootstapper app - click the top button, then ok, then the 2nd button.. and viola! It will boot into recovery.
Then wipe your cache partition, and dalvik cache, and install zip from sdcard. "...Global..." zip makes it boot into recovery every time you reboot, and the "..Remove.." zip removes it.
Good luck. Happy reading!
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thanks for that good explaination on that. now i gotta figure out why my laptop isn't seeing my phone...=/

Droid_Boi86 said:
thanks for that good explaination on that. now i gotta figure out why my laptop isn't seeing my phone...=/
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Make sure you have the drivers downloaded for the Atrix 2.

thethird84 said:
Make sure you have the drivers downloaded for the Atrix 2.
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By "seeing your phone," do you mean ADB-wise? Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB Debugging (enable)

PM me if you need any help. I have Supercharged V5 update 2 running and I love it. there are some things you need to do to make sure it works right though.

thanks alot! i will do..

Going to root, am I doing it right?

I am on stock 4.0.4 with a locked bootloader. I want to have root with the stock rom, nothing else just root.
So I am gonna use the tool provided here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544940
I have already installed drivers and have the tool downloaded.
Then I would like to flash the stock google 4.0.4 rom that will let me receive OTA updates. Is this the right file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569509
Or can I just flash the stock rom from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572307
I heard there are problems flashing stock rom with CWR if the stock recovery isnt removed? Thats why I dont know if I should flash the stock image.
Is the process of flashing rom with CWR recovery the same as with stock recovery?
My phone is the i9023.
Thanks a bunch in advance.

Gambler_3 said:
I am on stock 4.0.4 with a locked bootloader. I want to have root with the stock rom, nothing else just root.
So I am gonna use the tool provided here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544940
I have already installed drivers and have the tool downloaded.
Then I would like to flash the stock google 4.0.4 rom that will let me receive OTA updates. Is this the right file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569509
Or can I just flash the stock rom from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572307
Is the process of flashing rom with CWM recovery the same as with stock recovery?
Thanks in advance.
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Baseband version? under about phone

billchen0014 said:
baseband version? Under about phone
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i9023xxki1.
Sorry should have specified my phone in the OP.

Best way is to do it manually. You can find all of the steps required here. The only difference is that you should be flashing the latest recovery from here and the latest superuser.zip file when flashing with recovery.
Note, unlocking bootloader will cause loss of EVERYTHING on the device that you have put on there (sdcard, apps, data partition, etc).

Harbb said:
Best way is to do it manually. You can find all of the steps required here. The only difference is that you should be flashing the latest recovery from here and the latest superuser.zip file when flashing with recovery.
Note, unlocking bootloader will cause loss of EVERYTHING on the device that you have put on there (sdcard, apps, data partition, etc).
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You suppose thats better to do manually so I will have latest version of recovery and superuser?
And yes I am aware of the data loss waited sometime to finish all my games now I am ready to lose all my app data.

Harbb said:
Best way is to do it manually. You can find all of the steps required here. The only difference is that you should be flashing the latest recovery from here and the latest superuser.zip file when flashing with recovery.
Note, unlocking bootloader will cause loss of EVERYTHING on the device that you have put on there (sdcard, apps, data partition, etc).
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Do it this way. The one click is fine but using Android SDK and going through all that will help you in the long run. This way you know the process in case something goes wrong. It may be confusing at first but worth it. It will teach you a lot more than flashing a one click!
I learnt a lot from this and feel much more experienced and capable because of it. I know I will be able to solve any major issues using Android Debug Bridge (adb).

Okay then I am gonna try the manual way and gonna take out time for it. Now I just need to know what do I flash once I have unlocked bootloader and installed CWR?
I just want the stock google rom and receive OTA if nexus S continues to be supported by google.

You won't need to reinstall the ROM if you are currently on 4.0.4. The ROM stays there as-is. Feel free to do your wipes in recovery and reflash stock 4.0.4 through CWM if you must. You flash CWM to your phone and then superuser through CWM.
Steps:
Setup ADB/fastboot
Bootloader --> fastboot oem unlock --> agree
Bootloader --> fastboot flash recovery recovery.img --> this will give you CWM
Recovery --> flash superuser.zip and, if you must, wipe and reflash ICS (flash su AFTER this if done)
Reboot --> bingo
Also note, with stock ROMs it will replace your current recovery with stock recovery on each boot. If you want to keep CWM, delete /system/etc/flash-recovery.sh when you first boot. You'll have to reflash recovery afterward and it will stick.

Oh I was of the impression that unlocking bootloader wipes everything means it wipes the OS as well. That is nice if it's just data and not the OS, dont think I would reflash it if it's not needed.
Can you explain what you mean by will have to reflash recovery? I will have to do that even if I delete that file on first boot? And whats the drawback if I dont delete that file and stick with stock recovery?

As soon as you boot into stock android it will replace the recovery. So if that file is there on first boot, it will replace it while booting and you will be without CWM (stock instead). After first boot you can delete the file (you can reflash a ROM which has this deleted, or delete it yourself from a stock ROM, or even use adb or a recovery-based file manager to delete the file, then you won't have this problem at all) and it will no longer reflash stock recovery, but you would already have the stock one and need to flash CWM one more time to get it to stick. Easiest way is to just flash CWM and delete it within android imo, saves mounting commands and the such.
No downside really. If you need to flash something for one reason or another you'll just have to reflash CWM before you do so. Once rooted, ROM Manager can do this for you within android anyway.

I had already downloaded and installed the drivers from the one click root thread and my computer shows the android adb thing when I connect my phone with USB debugging.
But as you guys suggested I am gonna do the manual way. So do I just skip the installing driver on computer in the part 1 of this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782

In my bootloader menu why is it showing my phone as an i9020?? Is it normal?

Gambler_3 said:
In my bootloader menu why is it showing my phone as an i9020?? Is it normal?
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Because you have a Nexus S with amoled. That's the i9020. The i9023 is SLCD.

DeuXGod said:
Because you have a Nexus S with amoled. That's the i9020. The i9023 is SLCD.
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He has the i9023 to my knowledge. It is completely normal, though. Bootloader and recovery for i9020 and i9023 series are the same, this can be attributed to the issue with 4.0.3 recovery backlight not turning on.
If fastboot recognises your phone in the bootloader (the fastboot menu), your drivers are installed an working perfectly.

Finally got to the unlock bootloader screen, didnt do it just yet but now I know how to do it.
I must say the guide is a bit outdated, the software has changed quite a bit seems. The most frustrating part was that the fastboot file is actually in the platform tools folder instead of the tools folder which I didnt figure for a while. I will hold off rooting when I have a whole day off because once I lose everything I would be very anxious to get my phone back to normal which will take time.
Thanks for the help harbb, if I have any problem flashing recovery and superuser I will come back for more help.
And yes I have the LCD version i9023.

Btw the guide said the fastboot will be in the tools folder but the tools folder had a read me that "adb has moved to the platform tools folder" this is how I figured to go to that folder and thats where the fastboot file actually was.
Now it says I should put the recovery image in the tools folder so should I do that or put it in the platform tools folder?

In the instructions for the flashing recovery I am not understanding one thing.
6 - Then back on the SNS select Power Off (Reboot also works)
Part 4 - Root
1 - Power ON the SNS
So after flashing recovery I have to reboot? Since I am on stock rom that would bring back the stock recovery so how would I flash superuser then?
If I delete the stock recovery can I still get OTA updates?

fastboot and adb is now in platform tools, that is correct. Easiest way is to put your recovery in there too so you don't have to type in the absolute file path to it, don't put it in tools.
Don't power off or reboot the phone. After you flash recovery go straight into the recovery menu and root, flash custom ROMs, kernels, etc. You can transfer files to flash via the mounts and storage --> mount usb storage menu. After this feel free to reboot.

Harbb said:
fastboot and adb is now in platform tools, that is correct. Easiest way is to put your recovery in there too so you don't have to type in the absolute file path to it, don't put it in tools.
Don't power off or reboot the phone. After you flash recovery go straight into the recovery menu and root, flash custom ROMs, kernels, etc. You can transfer files to flash via the mounts and storage --> mount usb storage menu. After this feel free to reboot.
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Just wanted to update that I successfully unlocked and rooted. Thanks a bunch mate.

Gambler_3 said:
Just wanted to update that I successfully unlocked and rooted. Thanks a bunch mate.
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Good work, been wandering what you were up to on this
Hope you enjoy the possibilities.