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hey is it possible to pull the entire Android OS, all assoicated files, etc off of a phone..like a droid or X for instance, and then run that from a virtual machine on your computer??

No, but you could check out the android x86 project or run eclipse.

evilkorn said:
No, but you could check out the android x86 project or run eclipse.
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i specially wanted to "emulate" a phone on the PC to check stability. i want to TOTALLY strip froyo, down to basic operating system and build it back up with no bloat, no apps, no nothin. customize it yourself, ya digg?

To run on what, phone or computer?
You said you wanted to run it in an emulator on the PC, which is what the android x86 project is for.
If you want to run it on the phone, eclipse is the build environment.

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[Q] is is possible to install...?

Is it possible to install an android operating system on my toshiba sattelite laptop. Its got a fast enough processor and big enough hard drive, but I jut want to install it as a second operating system, like when you can choose what op system you want to run when you boot up.
Check out the Android x86 project. Android is built for ARM architecture not i386.
Android is linux based, you could just run that.
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now that youve answered that, im curious to see if its possible to install android OP on a first generation PS3.... It was possible to run linux on them before.... and im just curious to see if its possible to put the android op thats linux based on it....
can anyone help to find the correct download for the linux based android op system?

Not sure which os

hi everyone well im getting a custom built pc soon but not sure which os so what do you think (also i have heard there are also driver problems and ubuntu is not for gaming)
Run Ubuntu then run windows inside of it
Run Windows then run ubuntu inside of it
only thing is i cant burn windows straight away so ubuntu is probably the way to go
all input would be appreciated
Ryan Stampton said:
hi everyone well im getting a custom built pc soon but not sure which os so what do you think (also i have heard there are also driver problems and ubuntu is not for gaming)
Run Ubuntu then run windows inside of it
Run Windows then run ubuntu inside of it
only thing is i cant burn windows straight away so ubuntu is probably the way to go
all input would be appreciated
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Neither. Dual-boot it so that both Linux and Windows are both running natively as it's a much better way to run them.
SimonTS said:
Neither. Dual-boot it so that both Linux and Windows are both running natively as it's a much better way to run them.
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Thanks i forgot you could duel boot
Ryan Stampton said:
Thanks i forgot you could duel boot
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Not a problem. It is slightly trickier installing Linux first, then Windows - but not a real problem. You will just have to make sure that you keep your Linux Live image handy so you can re-install the Linux bootloader afterwards as Windows doesn't like sharing with anything else
Yeah, definitely dual-boot if you must have Linux, though I find it's a rather irrelevant operating system.
Mrbadboy3 said:
Yeah, definitely dual-boot if you must have Linux, though I find it's a rather irrelevant operating system.
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Irrelevant? Really? Do you have an Android phone? You are aware that Android wouldn't exist without Linux and the Linux kernel ... aren't you?
SimonTS said:
Irrelevant? Really? Do you have an Android phone? You are aware that Android wouldn't exist without Linux and the Linux kernel ... aren't you?
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Android and GNU+Linux are largely unrelated. That said, it's hard to see how he could call the latter "irrelevant". It's really only "irrelevant" if you are a hardcore gamer (and even then, there are pretty decent stopgap solutions for many games, and steam is also coming).
SimonTS said:
Irrelevant? Really? Do you have an Android phone? You are aware that Android wouldn't exist without Linux and the Linux kernel ... aren't you?
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I often work with Windows 7, then install Wubi to create a dual-boot system with Ubuntu (except that the Ubuntu disk is stored inside a virtual disk file on the host filesystem, whilst still running on its own).
Try it, super easy, simple and safe
francocm said:
I often work with Windows 7, then install Wubi to create a dual-boot system with Ubuntu (except that the Ubuntu disk is stored inside a virtual disk file on the host filesystem, whilst still running on its own).
Try it, super easy, simple and safe
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Wubi is more vulnerable to corruption in the event of a hard reboot, and is naturally slower.
The problem with ubuntu (alone) is that the first things you do is to install WINE (or else it does not last long).
If you install a dual boot and if you are accustomed to windows most of the time you will use windows.
for a time I had windows and ubuntu installed but it was really useless however do it if you want it costs nothing more (first install windows and next ubuntu, it's easier in this order)

[Q] pc work on android

is it possible to run PC apps and file on android phone or in JB,like Linux on android app.
raokashan said:
is it possible to run PC apps and file on android phone or in JB,like Linux on android app.
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Android is based on the Linux 2.6 & 3.x kernel, which is why Android and Linux are (moderately) cross compatible.
Windows is a completely different world. Not going to happen.

Can Atrix 2 run on Ubuntu

Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?
zq6559636 said:
Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?
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you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)
darth_nihar said:
you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)
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the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.
zq6559636 said:
the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.
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Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
jimbridgman said:
Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....
darth_nihar said:
You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....
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I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim
jimbridgman said:
I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim
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True but as you said they removed the ubuntu scripts after the 2.3.6 roms so integration into ics cant be done unless we actually sit and write the code for it or say port it from the earlier versions emulators work pretty fine but i was thinking why not make a standalone version which can be run on bmm as another rom that would make it better in the performance perspective as the base android rom would not be using the cpu resources.... give a thought on that concept or even porting ubuntu touch to atrix 2 would be gr8 but the locked bootloader could be a issue
jimbridgman said:
Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.
zq6559636 said:
Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.
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With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".
jimbridgman said:
With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".
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Jim is there anyone trying to port the Ubuntu touch to the Atix 2
why not try to bring this new thing over .........
Because you need an unlocked bootloader. Ubuntu touch uses its own bootloader, just like the full Ubuntu desktop uses lilo. Besides it is still really alpha. Things still do not fully work. Music and video playback is still broken.
If you must give it a try you MUST have a phone with a fully unlocked bootloader. Any nexus phone or the sgs3/4 or one of the note phones, etc.
I wish we could port it, but without the bootloader it is impossible at this point. Kexec will not boot the kernel, yet.. I say yet, because I am sure we can crack that eventually.
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Installing Linux on chinese android tablet

Hello,
Hopefully can find further help here...
Obtained Keypoon K30s Pro tablet from China. It is running Android 10 as its oem OS. I want to set it up with a linux distro instead of android.
Ofcourse due to exotic make I have not been able to find any threads of information on this topic for this brand tablets.
Only guide so far has been hardware specs...
It is running on Unisoc SC9863a 64bit ARM Cortex A-55 cpu at 10 cores.
10GB RAM
512GB internal storage
PowerVR Rogue GE8322 integrated graphics card
It successfully connects with windows 10 cmd adb bridge.
As I understand, I would need a linux distro img format file to try and boot it from bootloader via ADB, however official sources only offer ISO downloads.
PS I am open to any linux distro which would offer best compatibility to the hardware. From what I can see Debian seems to be a good choice. (as this brand is not
part of the supported device list for ubports of ubuntu touch couldnt get past that either)
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
Try this
Andronix - Linux on Android – Apps on Google Play
Andronix lets you install Linux on Android without root.
play.google.com
jwoegerbauer said:
Try this
Andronix - Linux on Android – Apps on Google Play
Andronix lets you install Linux on Android without root.
play.google.com
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Thank you for reply.
Looks like Andronix is a Linux emulator and backbone still remains Android.
with this also comes certain limitations...
I was looking to completely replace Android with a Linux distro.
Any suggestions?
Android IS Linux tailored to the mobile's hardware
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Android IS Linux tailored to the mobile's hardware
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Yes, you are correct there. Andoid is built off the linux kernel.
However, it is still limited in what you can do, you have proprietary bloatware bogging down your device and the biggest issue for me is that google is the manager of it all.
So I am strongly coming from privacy side as well.
I have seen quite a few options similar to Andronix on play store. Correct me if im wrong- they are like a virtual machine on windows..? Not sure how this setup works, if you are able to save your OS state, packages etc, or its a clean slate everytime you fire up the vnc server and connect to the distro of choice...
So I am really interested to see if its possible to fully get rid of android and try linux. (Cant install windows as ARM cpu's are not supported, not that I wanted windows anyway)
Many thanks

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