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Polaris Android Linux Kernel Development Project

*** PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE INSTALLING OR FLASHING ANY SOFTWARE POSTED IN THIS THREAD ***
The software posted here is for TESTING purposes only, The Polaris Android Linux development team or any of the posters of software or links to software on this thread, take absolutely no responsibility or liability for damage caused by the result of installing or flashing software or links to software found on this thread - correctly or otherwise, you do so on the sole understanding that you do so at your own risk. A final version will be posted on completion of a version 1 kernel at which point testing and support for the kernel will be moved to a suitable thread. Please do NOT post support questions on this thread - this is a development thread ONLY.
Development work is sometimes done in the irc channel: #htc-linux. To follow the latest developements please read the daily logs which can be found at: http://irclog.iclem.net/?chan=htc-linux&day=13
Lastly, Please do not use bad language in your posts, I have my little girl with me most times and do not need her to read such things. Appreciate your understanding.
Update: We now have a few threads devoted to userspace (system images), This is a KERNEL DEVELOPMENT thread which is starting to get too big for devs to follow. The purpose of a good development thread is to serve as an archive and a blueprint for future developers and that is hard to do when you have hundreds of non-related posts. I have therefore asked the moderator to move all non-kernel posts to their appropriate threads.
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01-09-08 - new link to files for working wifi
http://www.4shared.com/dir/19593527/3cb53c3a/sharing.html
24-07-09 - If anyone is interested in making themed system images, he's posted this link to help you learn how to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471586
19-07-09 - New kernel with changes from Vogue branch released. I am currently testing radios and resolutions. List of resolutions from kaiser thread
15-07-09 - A revival in our development as meant we are now catching up with the other devices with development on the project. Thank you to all who donated to the purchase of development Polaris that will be used by vilord, from vogue forum to help us with the project.
Current developers:
Life02 - Fixed GPS, Working on Battery issues.
Vilord - On holiday, now in possession of a Polaris. Also working on Bluetooth.
Newbie16 - Fixed Wifi - need to add irq's.
05-07-09 - New 1.5 ION build of Android for the Vogue has been reported to work well for the Polaris and can be found on the Google Vogue repository. The new 1.5 builds are noticeably also faster and smoother than previous builds. Some troubleshooting info can be found at the Androidhtc website for these builds (thanks freddycs). APN details can be found on Wikipedia - (thanks Mormy)
Things that do NOT work at present:
Bluetooth - No - Working partially for Vogue
Wifi - WORKING! *NEW* - thanks to a lot of effort by my friend Newbie16 - thanks mate
Camera - No - Working for Vogue
GPS - now working thanks to life02! - Well done my friend
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A new thread for budding designers has been set up by Venigo, (thanks matey!) who will lead the design side of the Polaris Android project (kind of makes you a little emotional thinking we're at that stage where we can start thinking about wallpapers and themes doesnt it?) Thread can be found here: Polaris Linux Android - Wallpapers, Themes and Icons
UPDATES: - Please check the WIKI for up-to-date progress updates here: Android on Polaris WIKI (Thanks excogitation)
NEW TESTING AND BUG THREAD ANNOUCEMENT:
marcelkordek has kindly started a thread for testing and bug reporting as we now have an almost usable Android image which can be found here: Polaris Android Project - Testing and Bug Reporting The thread will also be used to provide updates on the progress of the Android kernel as well as providing feedback to the devs on the latest posted images. Please ensure that the Testing and Bug Reporting thread is used for reporting user experiences and enable to keep the development thread cleaner and make life easier for the devs, whom you will all agree are doing an excellent job to support our beloved device.
18/1/09 - Working Radio with calls at last! Audio and SMS still not working but GPRS does but with a bit of fiddling.
16/1/09 - SMD code is nearly fixed by DZO, Rogro82 will be making a new image soon. Most of the development at this time is being reported in the Kaiser forum: UPDATED!!! - Google Android and Linux for KAISER!! as DZO was sent a Kaiser and he is working on the issues on it.
5/1/09 - DZO is working to bring the Kaiser and Polaris branches together so that the kernel will work on all our devices. Waiting to see what changes are made.
1/1/09 - Rogro82 uploaded a "booting" 1.0 SDK along with source files and instructions (below). Although this is very much a work-in-progress, it is the first bootable version of the 1.0 SDK for the Polaris.
11/12 - DZO and rolk worked out some changes that may help us resolve the SD Card stability issue. Dwaradzyne posted up a Zimage with the changes for testing.
CPLD Handbook
GPIO Manuals
LATEST FILES USED FOR DEVELOPMENT:
1/1/09 - Latest files are packed in this archive - to boot simply unpack to the root of your sd card and run haret (included).
A big THANK YOU to Rogro82 for getting the 1.0 SDK booting on the Polaris
Enjoy!
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FIRST POST
I'll start with another simple question I cant find an answer to:
WHY CANT WE JUST PORT THE G1 ROM TO THE POLARIS?

#2 reserved for update

I will try to search too

I will try to put as simple as possible. Building a ROM requires combinig two parts:
1. Kernel/drivers part.
2. Applications and stuff.
In case of Windows Mobile part 1. in practice always comes from official HTC Polaris ROM. Part 2 comes from other official HTC ROM (could be other phone) and it can be modified by cooker.
We do not have a full working Polaris Android ROM, and we cannot just cook without part 1. Part 2 is available as Android sources are open.
The reason why we did not have 3d driver working on Polaris immediately after first Diamond ROM was available is that part 1. is not transferrable from one model to another.
Part 1. in Android is Linux kernel. We must get involved in Linux kernel developement for Polaris to bring Android to our phones.

why do we always want our phones to look like other phones. why cant we just be unique. we are windows mobile. TOP DOGG. i like windows mobile theme especially when its black. i like g1 but the design looks ancient. its not 2008 more like 1998

dortyboy said:
why do we always want our phones to look like other phones. why cant we just be unique. we are windows mobile. TOP DOGG. i like windows mobile theme especially when its black. i like g1 but the design looks ancient. its not 2008 more like 1998
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absolutely agree. Copying iPhone was fun the first 2,3 months. Why not trying to develop really good apps with nice UIs and make own ideas into real interfaces for throttle launcher, M2D etc etc - posibilities are nearly endless.

i absolutely agree. i havent seen not one cool program thats actually usefull in our daily life for windows mobile not since i had a treo way back.
programs like directory; that could look at your number and tell u the owners name and adress
stuff like that. maybe tell u when zip code the call is coming from. useful programs. not the crappy programs that just try to make your phone look pretty.
thats why people go to iphone, the programs are useful in peoples daily life but not windows mobile

Here we go
ROM download :
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/155612986/Android_dump.rar

I think its a probleme with the boot loader and some part of the android code which isn't public

Have look here :
Code:
http://www.limofoundation.org/en/limo-press-releases/limo-foundation-statement-on-the-google-android-g1-handset.html

dortyboy said:
why do we always want our phones to look like other phones. why cant we just be unique. we are windows mobile. TOP DOGG. i like windows mobile theme especially when its black. i like g1 but the design looks ancient. its not 2008 more like 1998
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Are you new to the mobile device world?
We are not trying to get it to "look like the G1". We are talking about using a completely different operating system.. lol.. and you are talking about a black windows mobile theme and how the hardware of the G1 looks ancient.. lol..
Oh.. and "being unique" in this case would be having Android on a non G1 phone.. that would be unique. Windows mobile is not unique.

m.schmidler said:
absolutely agree. Copying iPhone was fun the first 2,3 months. Why not trying to develop really good apps with nice UIs and make own ideas into real interfaces for throttle launcher, M2D etc etc - posibilities are nearly endless.
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Developing apps and trying to use resource hog throttle launcher is nothing close to having a brand new stable device operating system.

m.schmidler said:
absolutely agree. Copying iPhone was fun the first 2,3 months. Why not trying to develop really good apps with nice UIs and make own ideas into real interfaces for throttle launcher, M2D etc etc - posibilities are nearly endless.
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Maybe we can develop better apps under Android?
Look at the apps currently available for iphone - hopefully Android will get better market penetration than Windows Mobile, and, because it's open source it opens up a whole range of possibilities for developers.
I say if it can be done, it should be done!

dwaradzyn said:
I will try to put as simple as possible. Building a ROM requires combinig two parts:
1. Kernel/drivers part.
2. Applications and stuff.
In case of Windows Mobile part 1. in practice always comes from official HTC Polaris ROM. Part 2 comes from other official HTC ROM (could be other phone) and it can be modified by cooker.
We do not have a full working Polaris Android ROM, and we cannot just cook without part 1. Part 2 is available as Android sources are open.
The reason why we did not have 3d driver working on Polaris immediately after first Diamond ROM was available is that part 1. is not transferrable from one model to another.
Part 1. in Android is Linux kernel. We must get involved in Linux kernel developement for Polaris to bring Android to our phones.
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Thanks for the idiots guide dwardzyne!
So that very clearly explains the kernel level requirement.
OK. Second question:
With regard to part 1 - Kernel/Drivers - Can we convert the vogue version since it seems to have the most work done to it? What would need to be done to it to make it work?

imfloflo said:
I think its a probleme with the boot loader and some part of the android code which isn't public
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a boot loader :
Code:
http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/WebHome

bally3 said:
Thanks for the idiots guide dwardzyne!
So that very clearly explains the kernel level requirement.
OK. Second question:
With regard to part 1 - Kernel/Drivers - Can we convert the vogue version since it seems to have the most work done to it? What would need to be done to it to make it work?
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Indeed kernel developement for Kaiser and Polaris is based on Vogue work. It slowed down because of SD stability issue.

dwaradzyn said:
Indeed kernel development for Kaiser and Polaris is based on Vogue work. It slowed down because of SD stability issue.
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I believe the sd card issue has been resolved on vogue and they've moved onto other things (camera etc). but it seems like its the end of the road for the Polaris - apart from rumors that someones supposed to be sending a kaiser or a polaris to dzo for him to work from. This kind of points to that dzo is the only person on xdevs capable of working at kernel level with a kaiser or polaris?? That cant possibly be true - can it?

bally3 said:
I believe the sd card issue has been resolved on vogue and they've moved onto other things (camera etc). but it seems like its the end of the road for the Polaris - apart from rumors that someones supposed to be sending a kaiser or a polaris to dzo for him to work from. This kind of points to that dzo is the only person on xdevs capable of working at kernel level with a kaiser or polaris?? That cant possibly be true - can it?
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He already has the knowledge... He wants to share his knowledge, if someone send him a Kaiser or Polaris, and will make it work... I thought there were plenty of users willing to send there old or half bricked kaiser or polaris... but still nobody send him one... as far as I know...
Nobody keeps nobody up to date in the kaiser thread... So I really don't know what is going on... But they still don't have a decent fix for the DMA (SD-Card read/write) problem (as far as I know).
Porting the G1 rom isn't a possibility, you first have to have drivers for our device, since we haven't got a driver to read/write to the internal memory (not the RAM), it still cannot boot .
I hope this project will really come of the ground finally... It's half way there... but still not finished (if you ask me, due to miscommunication and not working together of users, because they all want to be the first who got it working to show off with it... (so they are all working on the same piece of code, which is a waste of time if you ask me)).
Maybe one of us can contact DZO, check what he needs to continue our development. Because without the SD-Card driver we can't continue...

dubbeld00 said:
Maybe one of us can contact DZO, check what he needs to continue our development. Because without the SD-Card driver we can't continue...
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I'll contact him, I dont think there are many users who would just send a device worth a couple of hundred euros to a complete stranger though many would tell you they would at the time. With the P3D driver their was only one person who was willing to loan a unit for development - and that was only because they were in the same country. I was asking for ages before that.
is their any other way we could help him? surely the internal workings of a polaris rom coupled with the specs could be used if dzo would do what NuShrike did on the p3d driver which was tell us to try things he worked on? I'm sure there would be willing volunteers including myself who he could talk through it on the forums or on the #android room.

I can't offer to donate my polaris as its the only mobile I have.. but I would be more than willing to try things out on my xda or provide any other help possible to get this project moving.
Hopefully one day a fully working Android will be a reality on polaris

Bug on a wap site in Eclair

Hi,
I'm very happy to see all those nice 2.1 ROMs out there, but there is a bug in Eclair from release 2.0 which prevents me to update, because it is really annoying for me little frenchie living in Paris (I'm not alone). I use a lot a wap site giving a lot of informations about transports : wap.ratp.fr
For some reason this site doesn't display correctly in Eclair.
I submitted an issue on Android tracker describing the problem : (ID: 5768. new user I can't post link....)
As I don't think Google will take a look at this in a near future, I'd like to be able to understand more and eventually make a fix which can be included in community ROMs. The problem seems to come from webkit as far as I can understand.
As I don't know well Android internals, what is the best way to look more deeply into the bug ? Is there a way to compile AOSP running in emulator in debug mode or something to track where the problem occurs precisely ?
Thx for your help

Dynavin D99+ Android new kernel for GB or ICS ?

Hey there.
I have this Device now a few months.
ht tp: // www . dynavin . com / android.php
Its called D99+
The Device works on Android 2.2.3 for further informations please ask me.
I have rooted it with a custom rom from this thread: ht tp: // forum . e46fanatics . com / showthread.php ? t=909077
Is there any possibility to upgrade to Gingerbread or ICS ? The guy who works on the custom roms says, we need a new kernel. Dynavin.com doesnt gives any sources etc.
Does anybody from you have the possibility to create a new kernel for this device, so i can install ginger or ics on it? Froyo is so annoying
I even would pay for a good working solution (kernel + - custom rom) !
Anybody can help me please?
Greetings from germany
Chris
P.S.: Cant add direct links. Sorry.

I really wish this device could get some xda love... froyo sucks.

i agree.. 2.2.3 is way to old!

If any dev was willing to put some work into this I would be willing to offer up some start up cash and some cash upon completion, maybe we can start a pool?
This device is horribly behind software wise. They did a great job making it look the part, but functionally its near useless for someone even alittle bit into the audio side.
My main gripes, lack of EQ controls, an android side that worked reliably. a better bluetooth interface (even if this went through the android side that would be fine); and a few other small things. Just the flow and feel of the device isnt "fluid"
If any devs need a device to work on, I could probably work something out to send my headunit to you for testing as well..

The "Complete" sensation rom

Brown=Test Done
Green=Good
Red=Bad
Blue=Not really Important
Hi Guys!!! :victory:
Even if it seems I’m a New User, I’ve been reading on your website for very Long time and I gained a LOT of experience with android phones thanks to you GENIUS DEVELOPERS and I’m sure I can share my experiences in this forum to help as well as been helped!!
Now, after days and days of research, tests and missed sleep hours, :silly: with Proper ROM, Kernel and Accessories I “ALMOST REACH” my final dream Phone thanks to you guys!
Wait, I’ll explain...
Basically my Girlfriend has the Samsung Galaxy S3 and I have my HTC Sensation XE...and the S3 is one of the most "complete" phone I’ve ever seen! It does EVERYTHING I’ve always wanted from my phone....by “Stock”!!!!
Now, I’m SURE you can understand me guys...I saw what an Android phone can do and I KNOW my sensation XE has the potentiality to do MUCH MORE that the limits that HTC put on his stock ROM without modify any hardware so it can become as powerful and complete as, let’s say, a mini-S3!
This is become my challenge, my goal (and MY OBSESSION! ) and after AGES...I ALMOST reached it....I’m very Close and I need your help and I’ll offer mine as well to make the “FINAL SENSATION ROM”!!
Now, after this LONG and BORING introduction:
What I want from my Sensation XE is basically the most “Complete” phone possible:
1- OTG USB “Fully Working”
2- Bluetooth drivers compatibles with applications like Sixaxis to connect the PS3 controllers
3- Keep a “Fully Working” MHL-HDMI
4- Keep a “Fully working Beats” and the compatibility with the mic and the play\pause\next\prev buttons integrated on the Beats cable for Sensation XE
5- Increase volume Loud-Speakers
6- Improve Battery
7- Improve Camera
8- Improve performance and boot time
9- Various personalization
And now I’ll share all my experiences:
--I first Fully rooted my phone
--Flashed PG58IMG.zip with Firmware 3.33.401.6 for ICS ROMs (HBOOT-1.29, Radio 11.24A, 4Ext 1.0.0.5-RC9, ADSP) ALL IN ONE!!
--Tried the first ROM:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0
1- OTG USB not working
2- Bluetooth drivers NOT compatibles with applications like Sixaxis to connect the PS3 controllers
3- MHL-HDMI video-out not working (only audio and black screen)
4- “Fully working Beats”
5- Better volume Loud-Speakers
6- SUPER Improved Battery
7- Improved Camera
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- Few personalization and tweaks
--Then I added the “Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM” to the ROM and magically I had:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0 + Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM
1- OTG USB working 90%; keyboard, mouses and even cabled PS3 controller perfectly working BUT to Mount Hard drives and pen drives it was necessary the app “USB\OTG HELPER” and to mount another sensation as USB-Disk-Drive it was necessary the app “USB Host Controller”. No “system support” so no auto-mount hard drives, USB-Storage not listed on “settings\storage\” after the “Internal Storage” and the “SD Storage” and no media-scan of the USB-Storage’s content in the gallery (No images from USB device appear in gallery, no songs in music, etc)
2- From 2 to 9 pretty much the same.
--then I discover the GENIUS KERNEL “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” and another point of my list was working:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0 + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” kernel
1- OTG USB working 90%; Everything like the Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM plus the tests done with the “Sixaxis controller” app and the “PS3 PairingTool” which don’t “sense” the PS3 controller via OTG (even if buttons and sticks works around the menus) and keep asking to insert the controller via USB to change the PS3 Controller Bluetooth MAC-Address
2- Bluetooth drivers COMPATIBLE with applications like Sixaxis Controller (v0.5.7 only) to connect the PS3 controllers (after change the controller’s Bluetooth MAC-Address by PC) but it cause the WiFi to stop working until the reboot
3- From 3 to 9 pretty much the same.
--Then I decided to try other ROM:
Elegancia-Sense4.1-v3.2.0
having EXACTLY the same results.
--and keep trying and trying I suddently had MUCH better results with:
“ViperS_1.6.2” ROM + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” kernel
1- OTG USB working 90%exactly like in the 2 previous ROM
2- Bluetooth drivers COMPATIBLE with Issues exactly like in the 2 previous ROM
3- MHL-HDMI --working-- PERFECTLY!! (after turn it on in the Venom Tweaks Misc Menu)
4- Fully Working Beats like previous 2 ROMs
5- MUCH Better volume Loud-Speakers(The Best!)
7- Slightly less Improved Battery than the other 2 ROMs
6- Same Improved Camera
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- LOADS and LOADS of personalization, tweaks and BEAUTIFUL ANIMATIONS of the menus
--so at this point I was quiet satisfied of the results but I wanted to fix that problem with the Compatible Bluetooth drivers and the WiFi so I tried the last test version of Pacha’s Kernel
“PYD-X 4.1.9 + kernel reset (non-bootloop)”
But somehow it broke the MHL-HDMI even on ViperS ROM
so I went back to the 3.8.1 version and changed ROM to the Rock Solid
Android_Revolution_HD-Sensation_6.8.0_XE + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ARHD” Kernel:
1- OTG USB working 90% exactly like all previous ROM
2- Bluetooth drivers Sixaxis-COMPATIBLE with NO ISSUE AT ALL!! Wifi and Sixaxis worked perfectly at the same time!
3- MHL-HDMI --working—PERFECTLY!!!
4- Fully Working Beats like previous 3 ROMs
5- Same Loud-Speakers volume as stock
6- VERY Improved Battery
7- No much Improved Camera (I hate the sensation stock camera!!)
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- Almost no personalizations at all so a little too “STOCK-Look”
--so at this point I was VERY happy but I decided to try anyway few AOSP ROM without sense and the tempting JellyBean:
CyanogenMod-10-20130109-bruce2728-pyramid,
OpenSensation2-20121210-pyramid
And the best of the 3 AOSP in EVERYTHING I tested:
AOKP_pyramid_unofficial_Jan-20-13
1- OTG USB working 100%!! The System recognized and mounted instantaneously (without any app) all USB-Drive I tested and all the media in the USB magically appeared in Gallery and Music. “USB Storage” was now listed in “Setting\Storage” and it perfectly “sensed” and paired the PS3 Controller without the any PC’s Help.
2- Bluetooth drivers Sixaxis works quick and FLAWLESS without any issue already at “Method 1” of the Sixaxis controller app
3- MHL-HDMI sound ok but the video out is full of issues and instable
4- Workaround for the beats that seems to bring the good enchanted beats sound but loses somehow the compatibility with all the buttons (play\pause\next\prev) integrated on the cable
5- Improved volume Loud-Speakers
6- Improved Battery
7- Improved Camera (I personally still prefer the VenomS’ Camera)
8- SUPER Improved performance and boot-time!! The phone is SUPER SMOOTH, it boots in HALF TIME of other ROMS!!
9- LOADS of personalizations and a general sensation of smoothness and pleasure for the eyes with all the animations
CONCLUSIONS:
I thank you very much all who had the patience to read this until the end, I say sorry for my English and if I said something stupid feel free to correct me and PLEASE guys (since I'm NOT allow yet to write in Development session), make sure Venom Team, ARHD Team, AOKP Team, xXxPachaXxX, SebastianFM and Every Sensation Developer (sorry if I don't Name ALL of you :angel: ) read this so they may see which are the good and bad points of them ROMs, collaborate and make the best Complete ULTIMATE SENSATION ROM!!
I will help as much as I can with Donation and to test on my phone, Just let me know which Log you need and I’ll Post!
Ps.
Love you Guys!! :good:

Just a little side note about first posts...
THIS IS HOW IT'S F'ING DONE, PEOPLE!!!! :good:
This post should be made part of the user sign up process and used as an example that says
If you are going to make well written, thoughtful, usefull posts like these, then welcome to the forums.
If your posts are going to say something like "Why my phone not work?! HELP!" or "This custom rom sux!" or "Let me ask about a thoroughly covered topic because I didn't spend 2 seconds to search and see if my answer was already here" then step away from the keyboard and go tell your mommy to put your down for nap time, Mr. Cranky Pants.
Ciusepp, thank you for making such a well organized and well thought out post. You are a great example for other new forum members. :victory::highfive:

This should be posted in general thread not q&a
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2

Skipjacks said:
Just a little side note about first posts...
THIS IS HOW IT'S F'ING DONE, PEOPLE!!!! :good:
This post should be made part of the user sign up process and used as an example that says
If you are going to make well written, thoughtful, usefull posts like these, then welcome to the forums.
If your posts are going to say something like "Why my phone not work?! HELP!" or "This custom rom sux!" or "Let me ask about a thoroughly covered topic because I didn't spend 2 seconds to search and see if my answer was already here" then step away from the keyboard and go tell your mommy to put your down for nap time, Mr. Cranky Pants.
Ciusepp, thank you for making such a well organized and well thought out post. You are a great example for other new forum members. :victory::highfive:
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Thank >>YOU<< Skipjacks!!! :victory::highfive:
That's the most warm welcome I could ever ask!!

elvisypi said:
This should be posted in general thread not q&a
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2
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Hello elvisypi!
if you can, PLEASE feel free to move or tell to move my thread in a better place...:fingers-crossed:
I didn't want to post it in Q&A because the goal of this thread it was to give to ROMs and Kernels' developers some Ideas of what is great and what is missed in them work but I still don't have rights to write in other threads and in here it's quite useless...
I don't think any of the developers I mentioned (or not) do even know yet of this thread existence...:crying:

Ciusepp said:
Hello elvisypi!
if you can, PLEASE feel free to move or tell to move my thread in a better place...:fingers-crossed:
I didn't want to post it in Q&A because the goal of this thread it was to give to ROMs and Kernels' developers some Ideas of what is great and what is missed in them work but I still don't have rights to write in other threads and in here it's quite useless...
I don't think any of the developers I mentioned (or not) do even know yet of this thread existence...:crying:
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On that note, don't worry about devs not knowing what's good and bad about their roms.
Presidential candidates aren't as scrutinized as a new rom on XDA.
If something doesn't work on a new rom, the dev will hear about 25 times in the first hour, then another 30 times after he corrects the problem and posts a new bug free build. And then some idiot will show up 3 weeks later without searching the thread and ask why he's getting that bug even though he hasn't updated his rom to any of the 20 newer builds since the bug was fixed.
Pick any rom development thread...at random...read the whole whole thing, and you will see this pattern repeat itself over and over and over. Try not to get too annoyed by it...but it's hard to remain calm sometimes.
So while your guide is great for other users trying to pick which ROM is the best one for their needs, you're not telling developers anything they don't already know. It's great information, but it's other users who will benefit from it.

You have really done a good work n I feel u have seriously searched a lot and made a systematic thread this vll surely help newbees to select roms n get some knowledge......
If I have helped you hit the thanx button
sent from HTC sensation using XDA PREMIUM APP

Nice thread man. Every one here can help. Personnaly have no skills in programming but i can test every thing that comes out.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Skipjacks said:
On that note, don't worry about devs not knowing what's good and bad about their roms.
Presidential candidates aren't as scrutinized as a new rom on XDA.
If something doesn't work on a new rom, the dev will hear about 25 times in the first hour, then another 30 times after he corrects the problem and posts a new bug free build. And then some idiot will show up 3 weeks later without searching the thread and ask why he's getting that bug even though he hasn't updated his rom to any of the 20 newer builds since the bug was fixed.
Pick any rom development thread...at random...read the whole whole thing, and you will see this pattern repeat itself over and over and over. Try not to get too annoyed by it...but it's hard to remain calm sometimes.
So while your guide is great for other users trying to pick which ROM is the best one for their needs, you're not telling developers anything they don't already know. It's great information, but it's other users who will benefit from it.
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Skipjacks thank you for your replies, they are always constructive!
Believe me I read few >>FULL<< threads and I know EXACTLY what are you talking about...sometime it’s just FRUSTRATING!!!
I’m VERY happy to help other users but the reason I would like some of the developers to read this thread as well, is because it’s not a “this doesn’t work, please fix it”-thread, but more like “this doesn’t work here but it DOES WORK in there but there doesn’t work this but it WORKS in here”-thread, so the Genius Developers can help each-other “fusing” all the working features and make the “Complete-Sensation”
I also would like them to know that I'm offering my help as a tester since I have a spare sensation, OTG Cables (powered and not powered) and MHL cable and I think they may need “Hamsters” like me to try on their new betas!
Anyway I guess I will just wait until I’m allowed to write in developers thread and place a link to this thread, all I want is to be helpful! :fingers-crossed:

shrex said:
You have really done a good work n I feel u have seriously searched a lot and made a systematic thread this vll surely help newbees to select roms n get some knowledge.....
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Thank you shrex, as soon as my girlfriend went in Holidays I had some time to dedicate to my “geekness” and I spent it ALL researching and Testing... Hopefully it’s gonna help someone...:fingers-crossed:

hedifezai said:
Nice thread man. Every one here can help. Personnaly have no skills in programming but i can test every thing that comes out.
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OH Yes! Mr Developers USE US AS YOU WISH!!

[Q] Samsung S8500: Flashing Android on it

Hi Everyone,
I have a Samsung S8500 with Bada 2.0 installed on it. I read in the internet that it is possible to put an unoffical Android ROM on it. Obviously there are existing a lot of different roms (Zendrokat V2.3, Iczen veyron, Omni etc.)
It's very difficult to get a good overview of all versions and existing bugs.
What should work if i install android:
- making Calls, texting messages
- Wlan, 3G Internet Browsing
- WhatsApp and Snapchat (maybe skype and viber?)
- Camera
- Kalender
- no Games
Do some of these roms support this basic smartphone functions?
I also read that there is a problem with the overheating protection. Is this solved by now?
I am willed to take the risk that this whole flashing can destroy my phone, but i dont want to risk a fire in my flat or maybe a exploding battery in my pocket! Can I be sure that this doesnt happen?
Which rom would you suggest for me? Or will be a new one be released soon and i should wait for it?
Thank you
CheVeyo