DO NOT RUN Advance Task Killer period. It does nothing but cause problems for the phone on eclair. Google recognized this and added a task managment solution built into froyo that works much better and won't cause random BS. If you think you know how to run ATK then you probably don't so read up on exactly what it does. Just remember people, when you boot up the phone, it starts most of these services because they are essential to the phone operating properly... imagine that. Don't try to be smarter than the phone. You are not going to save battery by removing processes out of memory. Period. Let them run. If you wanna save alot of battery, turn your display off automatic and run at a lower brightness level and turn your 3G radio off when not using data. Its that simple.
As for the speaker problem, remove the back and battery off the phoen and with your trigger or fore finger aggressively tap 1 time on the speaker grill and your sound should work when you boot the phone up. This action could be described as thumping the grill with your finger. I know this is a caveman way to repair a phone and is closely related to the beavis and butthead "kicking method" but it works almost every time.
Hope this thread helps. Your comments are very welcomed. Tell me what you are thinking....
Thanks for the info. I use ATK, but not in a harmful way (haven't experienced issues or random shutdowns). I have an extensive ignore list (of things that need to stay open) and security set to high, so system processes won't even show up, so it's impossible for me to kill them.
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BTW... Just to qualify myself a bit. I am samsung certified and I am running a Captivate on the Leaked froyo, rooted, sideloaded, overclocked to 1.2ghz, verizon market fingerprint build.prop mod, LCD density mod = 210, startup sound mod, battery percentage in task bar.
well thanks for the inside scoop. so we can expect a major OTA update around christmas for the US market?
i will be removing my ATK program today. I've also been using Captivate Keep Alive, which apparently opens up a ton of applications to keep your phone active and prevent it from entering that "comatose" state i think.
Thanks for the info!
Can you recommend another easy way, besides ATK, to shut down all of the unwanted AT&T programs that load during startup?
Great info, thanks!
Hope you are right, but software issue is hard to explain my case. The first one I got had shut down 4 times within a hour(worst case, usually 2 or 3 times a day), and the replacement been used about 2 months, never had an unexpected shut down. Both of them are unroot, no side-loading, and never use ATK.
danalo1979, since you have the inside scoop, will there be any GPS improvements, or is it as good as it will ever get?
Thanks for the info on the speaker problem. I just had my phone swapped out for this problem. I wish the person I called into at AT&T would have told me about the Cave Man method.
Thanks for the interesting information.
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well thanks for the inside scoop. so we can expect a major OTA update around christmas for the US market?
i will be removing my ATK program today. I've also been using Captivate Keep Alive, which apparently opens up a ton of applications to keep your phone active and prevent it from entering that "comatose" state i think.
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Thanks for the info!
Can you recommend another easy way, besides ATK, to shut down all of the unwanted AT&T programs that load during startup?
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Root your phone, get root explorer, go to system>app> go to desired apk file that you want to disable and rename to.bak extension and the os wont recognize the program. Its reversable just rename back to apk. Reboot phone. Don't do this on anything that is required for the phone to run.
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So the random shutdown is only an issue for eclair roms? Kinda explains why I haven't had any shutdowns since flashing cognition.
Also, I find it kinda funny that an AT&T employee has his captivate sideloaded (no offense! Just wondering why AT&T would even want to block sideloading apk's..)
And the ETA for the OTA sounds very disappointing.... late Dec~late Feb...
Just had a shutdown, running Cognition 2.3b4. Have had other shutdowns while on Cognition.
I've been on 2.2 of some sort since it leaked. Mine has shutdown as often as 3 times in a day. from 100 to 50% battery charge. There is no ryme or reason that I can identify except: While running system panel; When you look at the graphs for the time period that a shutdown occurs I notice that the battery charge graph will suddenly drop like a rock, like 50% of what's left and then when i turn it on it initially reports the lower amount but by the time it boots it shows a "correct" representation of the battery charge. THAT is consistent for every shutdown. Sudden drop (50%ish) and it reports low on startup and jumps just the same.
Random shutdowns on Froyo but not Eclair
Well I'm on my second captivate, first one random shutdowns from day one.
I have gone months with no shutdown while running stock Eclair. The day I flashed the leaked Froyo or Cog I recieve random shuts within a few hours. I tried flashing back to stock/master clear/ battery stats all with the same results
For me with stock Eclair no random shutdowns
with Leaked Froyo or Cog I get random shutdown within a few hours
Frustrating
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For me with stock Eclair no random shutdowns
with Leaked Froyo or Cog I get random shutdown within a few hours
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So are you able to restore to a point that does not produce shutdowns? If so, what method of restore?
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So are you able to restore to a point that does not produce shutdowns? If so, what method of restore?
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Flash Stock J6 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
after going back to stock 2.1 no shutdowns for over 2 weeks.
Last week flashed cog 2.3B6 couldn't take being on 2.1 anymore....shutdown within a few hours, installed CPU tuner and no shutdowns for 5 days so far running cog 2.3b6
If I had one shutdown running stock 2.1 I would return it
Dear OP, first off, I believe what who you say you are and what you wrote. Thank you for being open and honest. I am bone stock ATT 1010 v.004 phone build with a 09-17-2010 battery. When phone is completely stock it does not shutdown overnight. As soon as I add an APP, I get the overnight shutdown regardless of battery condition. I see that many apps say they need access the power keep alive function of the OS. Now I am not running homebrew apps or any mods as mentioned. I tried basics like Kindle or eBay or Chase Bank. I am 7 days into my phone and need it to stay on, so I can use the alarm etc. What do you recommend I do? Just keep returning it so I stay inside my 30-day window? Jump to a WM Samsung? iPhone4?
Can you also PUSH PUSH PUSH ATT to get this corrected. Samsung and ATT did not publicly acknowledge the problem on the three times I called, but only said if I returned the phone and got a new one, I would NOT have the problem again. Why is that? What do they know?
Thanks!
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What do they know?
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No offense to OP, but both Samsung and AT&T know how to lie quite well. Especially if it serves to screw you so they get more money.
fatbas202 said:
No offense to OP, but both Samsung and AT&T know how to lie quite well. Especially if it serves to screw you so they get more money.
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LOL.. I agree
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Battery life on your phone is probably fine. The problem lies in the driver LG wrote to talk to the battery and figure out the max capacity, discharge rate, current capacity, etc. They did a piss poor job of writing it, and working on CM7, I can say that it is horribly inaccurate. I've gone from 50% to 70% by just rebooting, charged a whole 20% in 2 minutes, etc.
DO NOT TAKE ANY BATTERY READINGS SERIOUSLY. I understand this sucks, but when you look at your phone and it says you have 40% battery, don't assume that to be true.
We are working on improving the battery driver for CM7, and it is getting slightly better, but still needs tons of work.
On the note of GsmDataConnectionTracker, it exists in froyo and gingerbread and is not something LG stuck in as bloatware. They added some additional debugging which is what you are seeing in logcat.
Skimming through the code (very quickly, mind you) it looks like GsmDataConnectionTracker is not your problem. All it does is keep track of data sent/received, communicates this back to the radio interface, sets up GSM data connections should they die, and is responsible for also keeping track of whether or not you are currently connected to an APN (thus the reason for constant polling).
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This got buried for some reason, and everyone has continued to speculate. Can we please put this to rest now?
Amen
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May it rest in peace!
This should be stickied and all other threads regarding it, tossed IMHO
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This should be stickied and all other threads regarding it, tossed IMHO
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we all need to be patient and wait for cm7 cuz I'm sure we will be happy even when the nightlies come
I'm happy with that thought
but until then
this post gets a
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The problem is the post is incomplete.
To ensure you have the most accurate reading available (which I accept may not be 100% accurate) you must disconnect the phone from all power sources when it's booting.
The comment about in the rebooting change above indicates the OP doesn't realise this.
It's a workaround but it eliminates all of the big jumps (up or down) people experience when rebooting.
Thanks. I had a feeling these theories were just guessing anyways.
I had 2 main issues with G2x.
1. Random Freezing on standby which i am considering as solved by changing Min CPU Speed as mentioned in the following thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102746
2. Freezing while using or launching some apps. So i want to gather a list of all the apps that dont play nice with Tegra Platform.
If anyone has issues with a certain app that causes the G2x to freeze or crash mention it in comments.
I've stated this multiple times, but Fring is the only one I had problems with.
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Battery indicator is one that was weird...
Hex Defense.
Very insightful post. I got the G2x on the 20th of April, launch day, after downloading No LED the next day my phone shut off and I had to do a battery pull to get it back up and running. After I removed the No LED App I didn't have another freeze up or reboot for a couple of weeks. I've generally not had any problems since. I've had about three instances of freezing/reboots since I've purchased the G2x and otherwise it has performed excellently. It seemed obvious to me that the NoLED App was the culprit.
apps2sd pro moves apps to my sd but then they all disappear. same sd and the app work fine on my Vibrant.
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Very insightful post. I got the G2x on the 20th of April, launch day, after downloading No LED the next day my phone shut off and I had to do a battery pull to get it back up and running. After I removed the No LED App I didn't have another freeze up or reboot for a couple of weeks. I've generally not had any problems since. I've had about three instances of freezing/reboots since I've purchased the G2x and otherwise it has performed excellently. It seemed obvious to me that the NoLED App was the culprit.
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I've been using NoLED with zero issues. Did a titanium on my Vibrant and restored that to the G2x with settings.
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Battery indicator is one that was weird...
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Really? I've.bbeen using it and have had no issues at all. I wonder if it was something else?
Was that the paid version or free?
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This app I used to use due to the short comings of the stock photo app.
This thing refuses to work on any ROM I have tried. So I'd think it might be the Tegra chipset.
When I'm sleeping, my phone (HTC Sensation with Hypernonsense, but it's irrellevant because it has worked for a lot of time) drops the battery in a 20% in 7 hours.
So I'm looking for an app which tells me which program is wasting my battery. I know there is a Config>something>Battery, but It only shows me "Screen, Wifi, calls, waiting" or something like this, not the aplications.
Thank you,
Go setting, about phone, and then battery usage
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Yes, I know, but Settings>About>Battery does not show the processes. Just "Display, Cell standby, Phone idle & Wi-fi"
Something is preventing your phone from sleeping. Install BetterBatteryStats and find out what's keeping your phone awake. The dev has a thread here. Search for it and read it. There's a lot of use full info in it.
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Something is preventing your phone from sleeping. Install BetterBatteryStats and find out what's keeping your phone awake. The dev has a thread here. Search for it and read it. There's a lot of use full info in it.
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Thanks, will give it a shot for me. l've noticed my phone is always hot too now before l even use it.. weird. Might find the damn app that's killing me!
I recently switched to VZW and got the SGS3 (100% stock so far)...great phone except for one issue. Twice now the battery has completely crashed....going from fully charged before bed to full draining and turning off the phone while I slept.
I assumed it was an app causing the problem. At first I thought it was the game X-Plane. However, last night it happened again and I had not played any game. The one app I used immediately before both battery crashed was RadarScope. I'm surprised it would somehow cause the battery to crash after using it though because before going to bed I always use the ICS task killer to close all unnecessary apps.
Please help me diagnose these extreme crashes. I don't see how it could be RadarScope because I close it before going to bed, but that's the best explanation I have so far.
No one has any idea? I thought it may have been a quirk with the stock kernel interacting with certain apps, but maybe it's simply a bug in RadarScope or one of my other apps.
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No one has any idea? I thought it may have been a quirk with the stock kernel interacting with certain apps, but maybe it's simply a bug in RadarScope or one of my other apps.
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Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats and it'll tell you what you need to know.
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