Ok, this a bit off topic, but I guess people could find it usefull.
At least for me one of the most important applications on my MDA Vario with WM 6 (Pandora 3.2) is Opera Mini. It worked perfectly in the Intent Java Manager, *but* the last version (Opera Mini 4 beta) crashes it...
I tried one IBM Midlet Manager - not crashing, but ugly fonts, not working soft buttons.
Now I found Esmertec JAVA Manager. It looks good and it did not crash yet (*though so far I tested it only for a few minutes*).
It can be downloaded from:
http://wmblack.info/
Go to "Are there any Add-Ons?" and download "Black Add-On Cabs" (the file Enchantments.rar) ... There is a CAB "Esmertec JAVA Manager.cab" there...
Just install it - I used Pandora 3.2 with the previously installed Intent MIDP manager and had no problems to install Esmertec...
Thanks to Jimm98y for inspiration (I noticed he does have Esmertec in his ROM so I started to look for it - I have never heard about this Midlet Manager before)
@moderators: feel free to move this post elsewhere... I know it is not WM 6 specific...
Mirek
I posted similar information also on "Opera Mini" forum on Opera (with the note that if the moderators do not like the link to the website, they can delete it, but it would be nice to keep the info for other frustrated users of Windows Mobile and Opera Mini).
The reaction was swift. When checking it a few minutes later, the thread was deleted, together with my whole user account which I created this morning (without any warning). As if nothing has ever existed...
Well, never mind, I just wanted to help the fellow Windows Mobile owners... I do not care about forums on Opera...
Mirek
Tnx. I got it and will try it later today.
Mirek, do you know why you post is deleted? It is because Esmertec Java is not a freeware! It is normal to have post and account deleted if you post warez in software forums.
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Mirek, do you know why you post is deleted? It is because Esmertec Java is not a freeware! It is normal to have post and account deleted if you post warez in software forums.
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Well, both the thread and the account reappeared. The Opera forums had yesterday some technical problems, so maybe they worked with an old backup for some time (just a guess)...
As for warez: you may be right it is not completely legal, but I linked just a web with Hermes ROM (which is more or less similar to ROMs in this forum and which was *not* made by me)... This forum would not exist if we did not use "illegal" ROMs (there is no legal version of WM 6 for Wizard). So I leave this problems to moderators (I expect they may not like the link).
But back to the Opera Mini 4 Beta in the Java Manager. The only problem I saw was when writing text in edit fields. Remember to close on-screen keyboard before leaving the field! Otherwise it will "hang" there taking part of screen, impossible to close. If this happens, just open another text field, close the on-screen keyboard (it is possible only when editing) and go on...
Mirek
I found a nice place with many Midlet Managers (just one catch - the web page is in Russian):
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=1333&st=120
Mirek
mirekluza:
Just one thing to say, this forum is not that forum, what we like is not what they like.
anyone knows how to use esmertec and opera mini with a proxy?
the TAO midlet manager gave u the chance to change or add a proxy in the registry. so u could run opera mini with an o2 surf&email flatrate
arty said:
anyone knows how to use esmertec and opera mini with a proxy?
the TAO midlet manager gave u the chance to change or add a proxy in the registry. so u could run opera mini with an o2 surf&email flatrate
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Looking also for a way to enter proxy
you know, for some reason, esmertec java wouldn't allow me to grab and scroll in opera mini. and for opera mini beta 4, that's a travesty, because i could only navigate with the dpad, completely defeating the purpose. i had gotten used to the intent MM built into the standard Wizard rom, but since upgrading to NBD 8.0, Esmertec Java was there, which is why i tried it. now i'm simply installing intentMM along with it.
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there's also that nasty little problem of, if entering something into a text box, one doesn't minimize the keyboard, it will stay there on the screen with no way to hide it, unless one goes into another text box. annoying?
did anyone else have these problems?
Azimuth21 said:
you know, for some reason, esmertec java wouldn't allow me to grab and scroll in opera mini. and for opera mini beta 4, that's a travesty, because i could only navigate with the dpad, completely defeating the purpose. i had gotten used to the intent MM built into the standard Wizard rom, but since upgrading to NBD 8.0, Esmertec Java was there, which is why i tried it. now i'm simply installing intentMM along with it.
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there's also that nasty little problem of, if entering something into a text box, one doesn't minimize the keyboard, it will stay there on the screen with no way to hide it, unless one goes into another text box. annoying?
did anyone else have these problems?
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the same problems here. I'm using Risidoro's Intent Manager 11.1.7.1023 instead which deals with the program's graphics and overall behaviour much better.
Anyone has the CAB for 11.1.7.1029 ? What are the changes?
This topic begs me the question....
i was reading and i'm in the process of "trying" to make a ROM, and well i need to know which is better Emertec or Intent? i have Jaguar 3.1 rite now and it comes with Emertec, however I'm just beginning to explore my Java app options on my cingular 8125.
THe newest versions of esmertec (dated june and july) seemed to work fine with opera mini..including the scrolling...esmertec is included in XM6R3 rom..the one in my signature if you want to "try it"
Good luck.
Plus...
i just ran Faria's kitchen rom last night and i used the inent and i immediately was greeted with a " Invalid application" when i tried to start one of the java games the emertec java found so easy to operate. So i now agree that emertec is the better of the two.
For some reason, now, when I try to use IntentMM, I get "failed to install" and "failed to uninstall" messages, so I am going back and testing this new version of Esmertec. If anyone wants the link to it, here it is. Jbed is Esmertec and Tao is Intent, in case you don't know.
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Oh just great. I installed the newest IntentMM, and now it won't uninstall. Also, now Esmertec has timed out (the linked file doesn't work). I am now OperaMini-less..
It looks like the Esmertec midlet manager version most of people are using is just a time limited trial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326951
I certainly found out that the Esmertec in TNT 4.0 no longer works (unless the date is moved back).
I did not try any other Esmertec version, so there may be some good one around... I do not know.
Anyway - Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 now works fine with Tao Intent Midlet Manager so not a big problem for me.
Mirek
mirekluza said:
It looks like the Esmertec midlet manager version most of people are using is just a time limited trial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326951
I certainly found out that the Esmertec in TNT 4.0 no longer works (unless the date is moved back).
I did not try any other Esmertec version, so there may be some good one around... I do not know.
Anyway - Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 now works fine with Tao Intent Midlet Manager so not a big problem for me.
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The version in XM6r3 is 20070425.1.1 and it is still working just fine. I don't remember what it was now, but I had an issue trying to use the June version that was in TNT 4.0 (and a few other roms) so I dropped back to the April version. Lucky choice I guess
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The version in XM6r3 is 20070425.1.1 and it is still working just fine.
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is it the jbed full screen esmertec version ?
I tried the jeotek version here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1481439&highlight=esmertec#post1481439 but it's not full screen unfortunately
pierro78 said:
is it the jbed full screen esmertec version ?
I tried the jeotek version here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1481439&highlight=esmertec#post1481439 but it's not full screen unfortunately
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I believe its right just made a cab out of the same April package version thats been posted elsewhere, so his CAB would be the same as whats in XM6r3.
Sorry, haven't followed this closely, but what is the "full screen" version? No menu bar at the top and softkey bar at the bottom?
yes, with opera mini :
no wm6 menu bar at the top (but a "slim" red opera border)
and no wm6 softkey bar at the bottom (but a "slim" red opera bar)
I have developed a very simple midlet (my first one) that uses GPS to determine location coordinates and then displays them on the screen. (CLDC 1.1 and MIDP 2.0)
I am using the O2 XDA Orbit and have tried to install this using midlet manager as well as downloading from a host. Both times I recieved the error 'failed to install midlet'.
Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
Thanks,
Natasha.
Tao Intent Jmm
Tao Intent Jmm simply Does not Support with Jsr for use of Gps as far as i knw currently no windows mobile based device does.U Probebly Need To get Something Like Esmertecs Jbed Advanced frm www.esmertec.com
tashjp said:
I have developed a very simple midlet (my first one) that uses GPS to determine location coordinates and then displays them on the screen. (CLDC 1.1 and MIDP 2.0)
I am using the O2 XDA Orbit and have tried to install this using midlet manager as well as downloading from a host. Both times I recieved the error 'failed to install midlet'.
Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
Thanks,
Natasha.
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1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. as defcomg has stated, the TAO Intent MIDlet manager doesn't seem to support serial access. Install Jbed (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665&postcount=24 ) and try again.
Thank you both, I shall give it a go!
I installed JBed and now the midlet installs, however when I try to run the app I get this error:
"The midlet could not be instantiated:java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError"
My midlet only contains one class, could this be something to do with using an optional API (Location JSR 179)?
I read somewhere that you had to add a midlet-extensions property to the manifest which I have done (Midlet-Extensions: javax.microedition.location), could this be part of the problem?
Thanks,
Natasha.
Setup icon turn to be xml
I can't install Midlet on my pda wm6 i get the setup icon in xml, after copy to the sd card
any suggestion will be grateful
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The Shadow comes with Jeodek 20070806.2.1 which in most respects seems to be a decent Java...except it doesn't do full fullscreen. I also tried to sub 'tckmax' for 'untrusted' in the selector.utf file and you couldn't even get to the menu to launch Opera mini, it just keeps crashing.
More bad news...I tried to install Jbed to the new Shadow and it works fine until a password is required (like the area where you enter a password to sync your Opera bookmarks). The text entry area won't take any input.
Hopefully one of you hackers can do something about this, but for now you've gotta answer those network prompts each time.
Kermit Woodall
Managing Editor
GadgetNutz.com
D3FCOMG'Z MethoD
Is The t-Shadow a smartphone or ppc ? if itz a Smartphone i got something that might help if you have e-Natives smartoolkit you need , to go to opera mini and then go to the login part the active movie window where you enter the pass open it the bring the clip board part of smartoolkit where you copy n paste whilst press the key to high light the text instead enter what you want to enter in the text box when your done you press done and voila! it worked for me on jeodek and jbed because everytime i kept trying loggin in anywhere it gave me wrong pass til i tried the above method and now i can log in anywhere hope dis Works 4 u
Thanks - the Shadow is a smartphone. I really want to figure out what's wrong instead of using another utility to work around it tho.
KW
Found the problem, corrected, and am working happily now. I had downloaded TNT's JBED and it didn't work properly. I uninstalled it and installed Cloudyfa's JBED and it worked fine on the Shadow.
Kermit Woodall
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kwoodall said:
The Shadow comes with Jeodek 20070806.2.1 which in most respects seems to be a decent Java...except it doesn't do full fullscreen. I also tried to sub 'tckmax' for 'untrusted' in the selector.utf file and you couldn't even get to the menu to launch Opera mini, it just keeps crashing.
More bad news...I tried to install Jbed to the new Shadow and it works fine until a password is required (like the area where you enter a password to sync your Opera bookmarks). The text entry area won't take any input.
Hopefully one of you hackers can do something about this, but for now you've gotta answer those network prompts each time.
Kermit Woodall
Managing Editor
GadgetNutz.com
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hi m8
does Jeodek 20070806.2.1 support 3D java??#
thanks m8
sx1-doc said:
hi m8
does Jeodek 20070806.2.1 support 3D java??#
thanks m8
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Nope. To my knowledge, not any public Jbed rip supports M3G, only an older Jeodek. Read the MIDlet Bible.
here is the jbed which suports 3d
extract to the sd then rename folder to "j" note it must be small "j" not capital. Then use resco explorer to import reg file. then u can play 3d games
http://rapidshare.com/files/71221967/Jbed_working_on_storage_card.rar.html
Is it fullscreen?
ya its full screen
Yeah, it's working great; I've updated the MIDlet Bible with related info.
Almost excellent!!!
Imho best J2ME machine on WM6 at the moment.
negative:
-transpatently area on bottom of midlet list.
-long time of generating midlet list if folders aren't used (caused by midlet icons- sometimes BIG).
(ratcher cosmetics bugs - don't affect running games)
positive:
-Keys mapped corectly
-Great performance
-Fullscreen
-Good compatibility with most midlets
it doesn't work on my eten g500+ WM5. is it only for wm6 ?
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it doesn't work on my eten g500+ WM5. is it only for wm6 ?
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Read the Bible and try the other Jbed version (that of Cloudyfa). Does it work?
ok it works!i have problem with folder names in Eten storage card "folder" is named SDMMC so I have to create folder "Storege Card" in my memory, and now works ok.
but I don't know how to change .reg file to put "j" folder in SDMMC\
I second the Question, how can I change the path of Installation? I want to replace my built-in Jbed with this one, so I want to have this inside of Windows.
I searched through hex editor and Ressource Editor and couldn't find the String.
Hi All,
I hope one of you guys know the answer to this.
I have a java application in my home domotica system, that I would like to run from my HTC HD2. On the HD2 there is Jblend installed, and I would like to use that proggie..
now the problem is that I have an example of the startup file for jbed only, so I have to change that...
The original file has this line in it:
243#"\Windows\evm.exe" -cp "\My Documents\java\bin\eibPort.J2ME.main.jar";"\My Documents\java\bin\eibPort.J2ME.net.jar";"\My Documents\java\bin\kxml2-2.3.0.jar" de.eibport.j2me.cdc.visu.HicVisuController
I have tried about everything I can (and that is not much, but took a long time ) to make a new link file coming up with:
209#"\Windows\JBlend_AMS.exe" -I "\My Documents\java\bin\eibPort.J2ME.main.jar";"\My Documents\java\bin\eibPort.J2ME.net.jar";"\My Documents\java\bin\kxml2-2.3.0.jar" de.eibport.j2me.cdc.visu.HicVisuController
But it doesn't work, jblend keeps telling me "no such application".
Running it with java on the pc does do the trick...
I installed all the files on my storagecard in \My Documents\java
Jblend is in my windows folder....
Help
Thanks,
Bimmer
Sorry about this bump, but I still am desperate!