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Stuck in bootloader, please help!

Hello all,
Yesterday I tried to update my MDA Compact to qtek 1.06 and I saw to executables in the package:
getdevice.exe and enterbl.exe
I runned getdevice.exe for getting the device data for in the change.bat. That went oke, but out of curiosity I had to run the enterbl.exe, which made me go to the boot loader immediately. And now I'm stuck at the boot loader!
Whatever I do it won't boot to WME anymore! Soft reset, pressing the camera+power+reset, everytime it goes to the "Serial V1.00"screen.
When I remove and put back the backcover of the device (where the battery and sim are) it will go off and after a press on the power button it will boot to WME. But when I manually reset the device or when it automaticaaly reset itself after installing the ExROM tools, it goes back to the boot loader (Serial - V1.00) screen!
I even dumped the ROM with mmty to the SD card and flashed the device with that ROM again, but after it says Checksum is OK and I press reset it just goes straight to bootloader again.
I'm really out of clues of what to do. Can someone please help?
EDIT: When removing and putting back the backcover I can reset the device and it will boot back to WME so I can use it. But still when I softreset (with button or through software) it goes to boot loader. :-(
So using the backcover as a reset button is possible and does work, but it isn't very handy/usefull off course.
TIA
Regards,
Aurora13

Check the forum, the answer is there
Yes, you are still in bootloader mode and it's actually getting ready for you to flash.
Donno which part of it goes wrong, mine also have the same issue. What you need to do now is to restart your desktop pc / laptop (from the info I gathered from the forum). Then run that update thing again. This time, the same screen will appear saying it's trying to get the device data. Difference is, this time you no longer see the current version of ROM (as the Magician is in bootloader mode now). And you will see it show you the ROM that you going to upgrade to. Just follow the instruction, everything is straight forward. Hope this help.
cheers..

Thanks man!
You're the man cyberjaya!
It is working now, here is what I did (as told by cyberjaya):
- Rebooted my laptop
- Connected the MDA to the laptop
- Started the upgrade program of the qtek 1.06 ROM
- It didn't found my version, but it would let me update it to 1.06
- Flashing....(15 minutes is a LOOOONG time if you have to wait )
I did reset it a few times and it just boots normally!
Thank you ver much cyberjaya!
Regards,
Aurora13

No problemo
Am using laptop to flash also. Likely it's the USB hub thing (which listed in the "hardware devices" list). Read it somewhere, it's not recommended to flash using USB hub. Enjoy your new ROM!! .
cheers

I had a thought:
Isn't this the way to do a ROM upgrade without editing the ROM files?
Because it can't detect a different ROM and it will do the upgrade...
Or am I missing something?

Advanced Shelltool help

Hi everyone. I am in need of assistance with shelltool. I've been flashing ROMs for quite some time and this goes beyond the scope of typical upgrading. I apparently had a bad flash happen and need some help correcting it. The OS appears to work fine, except some applications .cab installers exit before asking device or storage card. I have attempted to load the EnableRapi.cab and Cert_SPCS.cab; however, they exit almost instantly after starting them.
I had this situation happen once before and I was able to oddly enough try to load the original T-Moblie ROM through shelltool (didn't install at all), then try NBD 8.3. which brought me to a boot loader screen after doing a hard reset, but didn't install NBD 8.3. So far I'm not having much luck in recreating the experiment.
Is there a way to force a Wizard into bootloader mode using shelltool or some other utility? I can restore the device if I can get that far.

it's time for my first post
Hi, have been reading this forum for about 3 month and i enyoy it and learn a lot. Have been try about 7 roms and like all. It's time to payback.
Yo can enter bootload by pressing and holding the voice command button and then softreset, keep holding the voice command button util you reach bootload.
Other thing you can do is run the original rom by its executable program not using shelltool.
Good luck

Awesome! That rescued my phone. You saved me quite a bit of time in getting my phone back to a working state. You've more than given back!

Dezl0ck said:
Awesome! That rescued my phone. You saved me quite a bit of time in getting my phone back to a working state. You've more than given back!
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no problem, that's why we are here for, to help each other

Help, Stuck at multicolor screen. XDA Mini S
Dezl0ck said:
I can restore the device if I can get that far.
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Please tell me how did you restore your phone? i am flashed touchflo rom to my phone and some how it is stuck to the multicolor screen.
Can you help me out?
Thanking you in anticipation.

1 put phone into bootloader by pressing and holding camera button+reset hole. Keep holding the camera button untill you see the tricollor screen.
2 plug the phone into the computer (wait to hear the noise that it found hardware
3 Flash a rom you know worked (maybe your original/ maybe someone elses... maybe even mine )
4 wait untill the flashing finishes and "Tap Screen..." appeares before unplugging.
(If you have a G4 then I advise you to flash the original rom, or make sure your ipl/spl is propper. check the G4 forum to be sure, or ask Mestrini - The creator of the Wizard service tool. I believe he has a G4 and knows more about it than most)
Happy Flashing

Randomly get Update/Connection errors.
Thank you very much for the response.
Unfortunately, i am still not able to flash the ROM. I did the follwoing steps, can you please help me letting me know, where m i wrong?
I restarted my PC.
I did Reset my PDA, by removing and placing the battery.
then i boot the PDA, it always boots to the TRICOLOR Screen.
afterwards, i tried to flash following ROMs
Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe [the oringal one, used to be working since long]
SNN_Version_3.0 [i flashed this, some days ago and worked fine for me]
SNN_3.0_FULL_version [the ROM that caused the problem]
BUT no use, i randomly get following errors:
ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR
ERROR [274] : CONNECTION
and some other errors.
Pleaaaaaase some one help me.
Thanking you in anticipation.

Can't get into bootloader

I am unable to get into boot loader mode.
I've pressed camera + power and reset as usual but it won't go into bootloader it just boots the phone up.
I managed to get into bootloader mode using a KaiserCustomRRU and then it picked up the new ROM from the SDCard but when i press power to flash the rom nothing happens.
I can still boot into windows mobile and the power button works when I press it there.
I only got this kaiser a day ago is it possible this is a new version or something?
Please help!

Harsesis said:
I am unable to get into boot loader mode.
I've pressed camera + power and reset as usual but it won't go into bootloader it just boots the phone up.
I managed to get into bootloader mode using a KaiserCustomRRU and then it picked up the new ROM from the SDCard but when i press power to flash the rom nothing happens.
I can still boot into windows mobile and the power button works when I press it there.
I only got this kaiser a day ago is it possible this is a new version or something?
Please help!
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Are you fully pressing the Camera button, it has two levels, it must be presses in fully and help whilst you restart your phone with the stylus (or turn on if the phone is off).
Off Topic:
This makes a nice change, helping someone into bootloader, rather than someone stuck in it.
Dave

Yup I'm pressing it down super hard, I've had the kaiser since it came out so I know I'm doing it as usual. For some reason it isn't working this time.
I had lots of trouble flashing HardSPL aswell! Now this problem with entering boot loader. This is getting irritating .

Harsesis said:
Yup I'm pressing it down super hard, I've had the kaiser since it came out so I know I'm doing it as usual. For some reason it isn't working this time.
I had lots of trouble flashing HardSPL aswell! Now this problem with entering boot loader. This is getting irritating .
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Does the Camera button work normally? I.e. Launches the camera in Windows.
What problems are you having with HardSPL?
Dave

Yup camera button does work normally.
I had to reset the device loads of times before customRUU noticed that the phone was plugged in.
At the moment I'm stuck in RUUNBH recovery mode in HardSPL. It detects that I have put a memory card with a KAISIMG.nbh into the phone, it says that it will flash radio, rom, splash and says press power to continue but when I press power nothing happens. Now no matter what I do I can't get out of HardSpl and I can't even flash a rom anymore

Harsesis said:
Yup camera button does work normally.
I had to reset the device loads of times before customRUU noticed that the phone was plugged in.
At the moment I'm stuck in RUUNBH recovery mode in HardSPL. It detects that I have put a memory card with a KAISIMG.nbh into the phone, it says that it will flash radio, rom, splash and says press power to continue but when I press power nothing happens. Now no matter what I do I can't get out of HardSpl and I can't even flash a rom anymore
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Check the link in my sig for getting out of the bootloader...
Dave

Thanks so much
Ok so its booting up again but I'm still having the same problem, ie it won't get me into bootloader using camera and power button.
I can't even press the 2 buttons to clear storage either, it just boots straight into the rom.

Harsesis said:
Thanks so much
Ok so its booting up again but I'm still having the same problem, ie it won't get me into bootloader using camera and power button.
I can't even press the 2 buttons to clear storage either, it just boots straight into the rom.
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Very strange...
Why do you need to access the Bootloader? To flash from SD Card?
Ta
Dave

Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/

Harsesis said:
Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/
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Flash back to your Original ROM, Radio and SPL. If the problems are still occuring, take it back to the shop, IMO.
Dave

Know where I can find the original T-mobile splash?

Harsesis said:
Know where I can find the original T-mobile splash?
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No Idea, try searching / asking in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Ta
Dave

Reverted everything back to default now, still got the same problem so I'm going to get a replacement send out to me tomorrow.
Do you think there is a new version of the kaiser that messes up when you flash hardspl?

Harsesis said:
Reverted everything back to default now, still got the same problem so I'm going to get a replacement send out to me tomorrow.
Do you think there is a new version of the kaiser that messes up when you flash hardspl?
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I doubt they gave you that newer Model what doesn't work.
I think it is the SPL that figures out wether or noot to boot the OS or run the Bootloader... when loading the OS the SPL checks for what keys are pressed and goes into the SPL or OS.
If Hard SPL and the OEM SPL fail to load the bootloader, there must be something wrong with the device IMO.
Ta
Dave

Harsesis said:
Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/
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I have the same problem with key press, it happened after a recent flash to a new rom.
I have found out what keys it is in my case. It is the "button 6" (voice recorder) and "edfc".The last are just endlessly pressed. Anybody knows how to fix this? My temporary fix was to remap button 6 to "rotate screen" but it is really anoying. I would like to just disable button 6, until I can return it, if there is no fix.
The problem has persisted over 3 roms now (PV rom (8 oct by medkid) - where it all started, Garmin 4.3 and now hyperdragon III 6 oct)
any help will be greatly welcomed!

Universal near brick - unusual problem

Near bricked my universal but i don't know how.
Recently upgraded to TML89_WM61_21048_REGULAR_64MB. (Nice ROM Tomal, many thx.)
Then installed a couple of apps to try them out. (Fechit, Tenki.)
Then two days later machine froze while surfing gmail. I had to hard reset to get any change. Soft reset did nothing.
Hard reset did not solve problem though as phone is now almost completely dead. Only repsone i get is if i attempt a hard reset. I get the reset screen (0 to reset, X to continue), and even says clearing and cleard OK if i press 0, but then imediately goes dead.
Usb does not connect properly (XP, device not recognized.), and flash attempts to many different ROM have not worked. Not ROM flasher even sees version number on phone.
I hope someone has an idea on how to solve as i miss my universal. I am back to my backup phone (CECT X-one) but it is so slow, and has no wifi/keyboard/bluetooth (Activesync or a2dp.).
Thanks in advance.
INO

can you enter bootloader? (press power+backlight+reset)

INO universal said:
Near bricked my universal but i don't know how.
Recently upgraded to TML89_WM61_21048_REGULAR_64MB. (Nice ROM Tomal, many thx.)
Then installed a couple of apps to try them out. (Fechit, Tenki.)
Then two days later machine froze while surfing gmail. I had to hard reset to get any change. Soft reset did nothing.
Hard reset did not solve problem though as phone is now almost completely dead. Only repsone i get is if i attempt a hard reset. I get the reset screen (0 to reset, X to continue), and even says clearing and cleard OK if i press 0, but then imediately goes dead.
Usb does not connect properly (XP, device not recognized.), and flash attempts to many different ROM have not worked. Not ROM flasher even sees version number on phone.
I hope someone has an idea on how to solve as i miss my universal. I am back to my backup phone (CECT X-one) but it is so slow, and has no wifi/keyboard/bluetooth (Activesync or a2dp.).
Thanks in advance.
INO
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Welcome to the forum
As Tomal recommended on his thread, please do Doc format
Have you done that?
Have a deep read in the Wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Good luck,

Could it be a battery problem? I recently encountered a mystery battery problem where the unit ceases as soon as it passes the flash screen, even though the battery was on charge the entire night, at first it works for a few minutes and then dies. Not only that, it simultaneously happened to 3 batteries within a day. Try, if you can, with another battery that is fully charged.

INO universal said:
Near bricked my universal but i don't know how.
Recently upgraded to TML89_WM61_21048_REGULAR_64MB. (Nice ROM Tomal, many thx.)
Then installed a couple of apps to try them out. (Fechit, Tenki.)
Then two days later machine froze while surfing gmail. I had to hard reset to get any change. Soft reset did nothing.
Hard reset did not solve problem though as phone is now almost completely dead. Only repsone i get is if i attempt a hard reset. I get the reset screen (0 to reset, X to continue), and even says clearing and cleard OK if i press 0, but then imediately goes dead.
Usb does not connect properly (XP, device not recognized.), and flash attempts to many different ROM have not worked. Not ROM flasher even sees version number on phone.
I hope someone has an idea on how to solve as i miss my universal. I am back to my backup phone (CECT X-one) but it is so slow, and has no wifi/keyboard/bluetooth (Activesync or a2dp.).
Thanks in advance.
INO
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This happend once to me. Enter boot loader mode (press poweron+brightlight switch+reset sw) and do a DOC format and reflash.
Read Wiki to get familiar about DOC format and entering boot loader mode.

Also this has happened to me many times. An almost dead phone with only bootloader mode available.
Yes DOC format is ok as also re writing another ROM.
It is something like losing the boot sector of a disc as i casn understand.
M phone is a G4 1.19 radio

Thanks for the help
Thanks to all who made suggestions but unfortunately none have helped. No boot loader availlable. (no response when i push backlight, power, and reset.)
Also i have tried with three different batteries after this was suggested.
I won't give up yet though. After all it is not really dead.
Ino.

Hi
Its strange but one thing or the other should work. Try with a fully charged battery.
Remove SIM and SD Card from it.
see if PC recognises the Uni.
If it does not then disconnect from USB port and try putting it in boot loader mode, actually power and backlight buttons to be pressed at the time of pushing reset switch (am sure you must be doing it, but do a bit careful... but just in case try this carefully)
best of luck

bootloop and no recovery

Good day.
Thanks fore reading my post.
I had root on my phone like for 3 or 4 months. everything was great and all. I did not dwell in any ROM installing or playing with the firmware.
But I am not sure what I did that this happened.
When I restarted my phone, I experienced everything until the Logo faded to the rotating circle(loading). And it stays there. Always.
I did check on many sites and it seems to be a bootloop. I tried going into recovery, used every button combination possible(I have only 3 and also tried and for my phone and for others to work) and I can't.
It just continues normally and to the position I explained before.
I have a Vodafone Smart 4 Max and even though I want the fix for my phone, I know there are other users that also experience/experienced this problem on different phones.
Might there be a way to fix this?
Thank you for your time
EDIT:: I managed to enter in recovery mode and tried a hard reset of the android. The situation is still the same, the bootloop remaining

Go to bootloader and flash factory firmware with fastboot

I wish I could. I have no idea how to access the bootloader(as I see no function like that).
I only have 4 options:
1).Reboot system now
2). Wipe Data
3)Wipe Cache
4). Recovery from back-up on SD (which I am stupid and don't have)

andreinit said:
I wish I could. I have no idea how to access the bootloader(as I see no function like that).
I only have 4 options:
1).Reboot system now
2). Wipe Data
3)Wipe Cache
4). Recovery from back-up on SD (which I am stupid and don't have)
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How did you get to recovery? Wasn't it through bootloader? I found the information you get into bootloader like this: (power off) press and hold "end call"+"power on"+"volume up". If it doesn't work try the same but with "volume down". I guess you tried it, but you never know (plus I've got a feeling you can flash new rom with option 4 you've got there)

minimale_ldz said:
How did you get to recovery? Wasn't it through bootloader? I found the information you get into bootloader like this: (power off) press and hold "end call"+"power on"+"volume up". If it doesn't work try the same but with "volume down". I guess you tried it, but you never know (plus I've got a feeling you can flash new rom with option 4 you've got there)
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Hm, I know what you are saying. For me to enter in recovery mode though, I needed to do the following.
1). Fully shutdown the phone for like 30 seconds
2). Volume UP + power button until the first logo with android appears
3). Let the buttons go and I enter
The problem is that adb and fastboot don't see my device at all. I have been tweaking with the drivers for so long, thinking that may be the cause, but I have no results.
And I can use the backup thing to flash a new rom? It requests an update file though, not an image(a zip file)

I think this is about your phone, maybe it will point you in the right direction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKHEZbj4NHo

They are figuring out firmware installation on a similair model here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/stock-rom-vodafone-888-t3002958