Hey all... noob to the forum, it's been a great resource for my new Captivate, so thanks for that...
I'm not going to start a whole battery life thread, but last night, I went to bed with a 40% battery and the device died overnight (making me late to work )..
On my iphone, I was able to significantly improve battery life by fetching emails rather than pushing them, and I would like to do the same on my Captivate... is there a way to manually set the sync options?
The only one I have found that lets me pick a time is facebook sync.
Thanks all.
You have to setup your email accounts first. There's an email icon in applications. Once you've got them setup you can go to the email app and see a list of all your email accounts...you're able to select which email account you want to to view from there. Anyways from the email app you can click the 1st button on the bottom left of your device which is the default button used to access settings for any program. From there you can select how often you want it to sync or push.
Under accounts and sync uncheck gmail, then add your gmail accounts to the regular e-mail app. Then you can set fetch. I don't believe push should really kill the battery though, by its nature, because it's not polling for information. The notification for the e-mail comes down to it as a small data packet only when it's necessary to do so as far as I know.
Generally, I like the push email. It is more efficient way for a phone. And doesn't necessary use more battery. It really depends how often you receive new emails. If you receive new emails constantly, push may use more juice. On the other hand, if you occasionally receive new emails, fetch with long intervals may save you some juice.
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I receive about 10-15 emails an hour...
Unfortunately, some of my accounts are on google apps, and I have to use the Gmail application... The regular mail app is not taking the IMAP or POP settings.
incakola said:
I receive about 10-15 emails an hour...
Unfortunately, some of my accounts are on google apps, and I have to use the Gmail application... The regular mail app is not taking the IMAP or POP settings.
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For Gmail using IMAP or POP, you have to enabled it first in your online GMail settings.
The only time you will see benefit from fetch email is to set your fetch period longer, e.g. once every few hours. If you're going to fetch every 15 minutes or so, you will end up use more battery juice than push.
foxbat121 said:
For Gmail using IMAP or POP, you have to enabled it first in your online GMail settings.
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Doesent work.
foxbat121 said:
The only time you will see benefit from fetch email is to set your fetch period longer, e.g. once every few hours. If you're going to fetch every 15 minutes or so, you will end up use more battery juice than push.
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How would fetching every 15 mins use more battery than a consistent connection.
I want it to fetch only when I open the email... I'm in front of a computer all day, and don't need my phone alerting me of an email at the same time as my computer.
push is not a consistent connection, the phone is alerted when new data is available. that is why it saves more battery
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Hi all-
I use Microsoft Outlook for my corporate email. Our main office disables Outlook from 12:00am-5:00am everyday for some reason.
I have my email sync set "as received". I was up in the middle of the night last night and checked my phone. I was receiving multiple sync error messages (since our corporate server was off line). My phone was hot and my battery was draining even while on the charger.
Is anyone aware of a program that has the ability to set specific times to sync?
Thank you!
smalk said:
Hi all-
I use Microsoft Outlook for my corporate email. Our main office disables Outlook from 12:00am-5:00am everyday for some reason.
I have my email sync set "as received". I was up in the middle of the night last night and checked my phone. I was receiving multiple sync error messages (since our corporate server was off line). My phone was hot and my battery was draining even while on the charger.
Is anyone aware of a program that has the ability to set specific times to sync?
Thank you!
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If you're using a 2.1 ROM, you can manually turn off sync via the Power Control widget. Just a thought. Other than then, you can just turn off your mobile connection, so it doesn't do any data at all...I mean you're sleeping anyways right?
I know you're probably looking for a solution that would take care of itself, but thought I'd offer it up there.
Thanks so much for your reply and suggestions.
I really am hoping for some kind of automated program so I don't have to remember to turn it on/off all of the time. I'm old, lazy and forgetful!
I wish the syncing options were more like on WinMo 6+ for exchange where you can set peak hours and what the recurring sync schedule is for peak and off-peak times.
Great feature I miss. I would set for every 10 or 15 minutes during peak and every hour during off-peak. Great battery saver.
Maybe something like Auto-lock or Power Manager that can integrate with locale or a timer app so that you can shut off data syncing during certain times or locations. But then again, it would need to be specific settings per items you want to sync.
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This has been an on-going issue of mine and unfortunately no one in the Rhodium forums has been able to figure out the cause. It seems that either a. my phone won't check for e-mails at the correct times when it's asleep, or b. data turns itself off and the phone is unable to check for new e-mails.
What this boils down to:
- I have my phone set up with the correct settings for my e-mails client. It will update when the phone is actively being used.
- It is set up to check for new e-mails every 10 minutes. However, due to this issue, I have manually chosen send/receive and received an influx of 4 hours worth of e-mails.
- I have tried multiple ROMs, Radios, and settings but the issue still remains. I even had this issue with the stock ROM.
- I tried to use Seven for push e-mails and this seemed to work better as I was receiving e-mails more frequently (and reliably) however, it would randomly disconnect from the Seven server for multiple hours (I could reconnect it by turning off my data connection and restarting it). I got in contact with a Seven tech, but they either started ignoring me, or are taking an extended vacation.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Current ROM/Radio is in my signature. I am using SBCGlobal for my e-mail client.
Thanks in advance!
Well, I think it is obvious that is not ROM related problem. Therefore possible reason left which is the 1) device hardware or 2) something wrong with your Email server
My suggestion would be:
1) Increase your pull time from 10minutes to 30min and test with your current email server.
2) Create a Gmail email account if you don’t have already one and test the same pulling intervals for that Gmail account ( for pop3 Gmail very is reliable)
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Well, I think it is obvious that is not ROM related problem. Therefore possible reason left which is the 1) device hardware or 2) something wrong with your Email server
My suggestion would be:
1) Increase your pull time from 10minutes to 30min and test with your current email server.
2) Create a Gmail email account if you don’t have already one and test the same pulling intervals for that Gmail account ( for pop3 Gmail very is reliable)
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Thanks, I can increase the intervals relatively easy, but I don't receive e-mails frequently enough with any other accounts other than my sbcglobal. I guess I can try subscribing to a bunch of threads here and change my e-mail to a google account.
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Thanks, I can increase the intervals relatively easy, but I don't receive e-mails frequently enough with any other accounts other than my sbcglobal. I guess I can try subscribing to a bunch of threads here and change my e-mail to a google account.
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Have you ever use flexmail?? http://www.webis.net/products_info.php?p_id=mail
I was using that software before having exchange account
Bulldog said:
Have you ever use flexmail?? http://www.webis.net/products_info.php?p_id=mail
I was using that software before having exchange account
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I will try that out and see how it performs.
I just thought I'd update by stating that changing the sync time to 30 minutes didn't resolve anything. I also tried that app that was suggested but had some issues with it too.
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I just thought I'd update by stating that changing the sync time to 30 minutes didn't resolve anything. I also tried that app that was suggested but had some issues with it too.
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I like your feedback, thanks! Anyhow what is the problem with the flexmail? does it give you any error message? I read in few forums that SBCGlobal(which seams actually a Yahoo mail) given few people problems with receiving mails. Would it make sense to forward SBCGlobal incoming mails to a Gmail account and you would pull the emails from the gmail account or even use the pushmail functionality (activesync)?? The disadvantage on this is that if you reply to a email then you reply with your Gmail Account address
I'll try forwarding my sbcglobal (yahoo) e-mails to my gmail account and see if that helps at all. Will let you know!
So I set up my sbcglobal account to forward to my gmail account. So far so good I was even able to set up google sync and get it pushing emails directly to my phone with active sync. Now to just spend the time of moving all my accounts over to my gmail account =/
well done!! enjoy your push mails
Great!! Good advice and was going to be my suggestion! Congrats
Push Email?
Does android have it? I'm so confused by all this. I tried doing some research and the Gmail application says they have push, yet I'm not getting push. Coming from blackberry, I need my emails. I don't need them this second but I would like them to be there when I check, not having to go into every account and refresh.
I have Background sync enable and application sync. I am using Gmail application for 4 Gmail accounts and 1 yahoo account with K-9. I am not using any background killer application.
I have simultaneously sent out multiple email to those email address and they barely get delivered. I see the emails in my mail box on yahoo.com or gmail.com and even when I try to refresh my mail boxes on my GS4G, it sometimes shows up and sometimes doesn't.
Considering I have important work emails, I would like them to get delivered. Even if they don't get delivered right away, but as long as they do. And this is making me think that its sketchy. So is there push or isn't? Or are my settings messed up?
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Push Email?
Does android have it? I'm so confused by all this. I tried doing some research and the Gmail application says they have push, yet I'm not getting push. Coming from blackberry, I need my emails. I don't need them this second but I would like them to be there when I check, not having to go into every account and refresh.
I have Background sync enable and application sync. I am using Gmail application for 4 Gmail accounts and 1 yahoo account with K-9. I am not using any background killer application.
I have simultaneously sent out multiple email to those email address and they barely get delivered. I see the emails in my mail box on yahoo.com or gmail.com and even when I try to refresh my mail boxes on my GS4G, it sometimes shows up and sometimes doesn't.
Considering I have important work emails, I would like them to get delivered. Even if they don't get delivered right away, but as long as they do. And this is making me think that its sketchy. So is there push or isn't? Or are my settings messed up?
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Yes, push works, haven't had an issue with it. Try clearing your data/cache from stock recovery. You may have to resign in. Try doing 1 at a time to test.
Could being on wifi be the problem?
I am using K9 and Gmail and they are both working perfectly. Personal and business email are delivered with moments, sometimes sooner, than directly into my gmail accounts.
Wifi or not, I always get my emails right away
Hmm, I don't know what can be wrong, I woke up this morning to see about 5 new emails in my inbox but none of them on my phone.
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Hmm, I don't know what can be wrong, I woke up this morning to see about 5 new emails in my inbox but none of them on my phone.
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again try a factory reset, then add 1 at a time, send yourself some test emails, see if they go tot he phone, then add another, send test emails to both, see if they go to the phone, and so on and so on.
The push/poll/sync settings aren't at all intuitive for me in K-9 mail and I'm working through them now myself (on Android for only a week now). At least as I understand it, there is a setting for poll that is independent from that for push. Both need to be set up for the account, as well as the proper set of folders associated with each. I think some of that is behind the out-of-box behavior of clicking into a folder and not having it auto-update.
It's pretty flexible, but not what I would call user friendly.
As far as I can tell, you can set each folder in an account to be 1st Class, 2nd Class, or (none selected), for each of display, push, and poll, and then set, for the account, what you display, push, and poll:
* All
* Only 1st Class
* 1st and 2nd Class
* All except 2nd class
(display, push, and pull class are independent of each other for each folder)
I'm trying to figure out a "magic decoder ring" so I can wrap my head around it all.
Hi,
is there a way on WP7 to create an time schedule for synching with outlook just like under Windows mobile 6.5?
i really miss this feature...
thnx
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WP7 doesn't have the ability to talk to Outlook directly. However, it can talk to Exchange servers, or anything else that uses the Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) protocol. If you've got any such account, including Gmail, it's possible to edit it in Outlook and the changes will sync to the phone. It can also pull your calendar from Windows Live, and there's a tool that will allow Outlook to access and modify that calendar too.
To answer the question the OP posted - No, there is not currently (as far as I know) any way to set up a schedule for Exchange syncing. It is 'push' enabled by default, which would normally use less battery than a schedule.
I miss this also - I used to set mine up for 'push' during waking hours, and not at all at night so I did not get woken up...now I just mute my phone lol
Well, you already can (and have been able to since release) schedule email sync to occur only so often (every 15 min, 30 min, or 60 min) as well as immediately (push) or never (except manually). It's available in Sync Settings for all email accounts...
Not sure why you think Push uses less battery than scheduling. Push email requires the phone maintain a data connection that it's always listening on. Also, the phone automatically silences email notifications (if you have them enabled) at night. The hours are settable in the registry, but the defaults are sane for most people. No need to mute the whole phone.
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Well, you already can (and have been able to since release) schedule email sync to occur only so often (every 15 min, 30 min, or 60 min) as well as immediately (push) or never (except manually). It's available in Sync Settings for all email accounts...
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Correct, that is available, but this is not what the OP asked for. The OP was asking for the ability to TIME schedule, like you could with Windows Mobile of old. ie. Have a working hours period, and a non-working hours period that is user-definable. So he could end up with, for example:
10am-5pm - As items arrive
5pm - 10am - Never, or Every 4 hours
This you cannot do.
Not sure why you think Push uses less battery than scheduling. Push email requires the phone maintain a data connection that it's always listening on.
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To be fair, it does depend what schedule you have set, and how many emails you get. Also battery life on varying phones in varying conditions differs hugely. That being said, the following is generally true:
'Push' email with an exchange server does not keep a fully active data conection open, that passes a lot of data. The way it works, is it has a 'heartbeat' that keeps in contact with the server, and it only initiates a full data download when there is an email to receive. The 'heartbeat' uses very little data and battery power. When you have you email set up to receive emails every hour, the phone has to initiate a full data connection and data download, every hour, just to determine if there are any emails or not - this uses more data/battery. Now, if on average over a period you receive emails less frequently than your schedule is set up, then 'push' will generally use less battery. Also, it is probably fair to say, that if there is a reason for it to be important that you absolutely must check your email every hour or less, you will probably want it set to 'push' so you get them straight away. Downloading ten emails as they arrive over the period of an hours, will use roughly the same amount of data as downloading them all at the same time at the end of the hour - the emails will be the same size irrespective of when they are downloaded, the only slight difference being that on 'push' there might be a small amount of 'logon' each time.
This is only true for Exchange push email, which I assume the OP was talking about, as he said 'Outlook' which is how it is labeled on the phone. Other email accounts, such as gmail, may work differently.
Also, the phone automatically silences email notifications (if you have them enabled) at night. The hours are settable in the registry, but the defaults are sane for most people. No need to mute the whole phone.
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Well, you learn something new every day - I can't say I have noticed this, I am sure mine notifies all night..What hours is it silenced by default? I will have to test this to see if mine works!
Hmm, I would have expected that the scheduled sync (as opposed to push mode) was effectively a very slow heartbeat, and if there isn't any mail to grab it uses no more power than a normal heartbeat (but does it much less often, thus using even less power). I suppose somebody could mess up implementing that and do it in a less logical way, though.
Gmail, if you use the default connection type, uses Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) protocol - the same one used by real Exchange servers. This enables Push mode, as you may notice. IMAP supports push on the desktop, but it requires a constant connection and is too expensive on the phone, so you have to use a schedule. POP3 (do people really still use that?) doesn't support push at all.
I've heard the phone is supposed to have a "quiet hours" from something like 10 PM to 8 AM, though I don't remember the exact times. I can't find the reference to them in the registry that I though was there, though. In any case, it doesn't do anything for SMS, app push notifications, alarms, or incoming calls, of course. It's possible I'm isremembering, but I get email at all hours and I don't recall hearing it at night.
i have the same question, this is a important function.
Lads,
Thanks for all the answers.
Just to get this straight, i am connected to an Exchange and want Not to get waked up, when i receive an Email at 2 am. Under Windows mobile i could Set up an schedule, Let's say from 8 pm to 7 am there will be no synch with Exchange... And this is the Feature i Miss...
Yesterday on my gs5, in attempt to save juice, I changed my stock email push to manual for both my gmail and hotmail accounts. I have a few questions. I also set both my web based gmail and hotmail accounts to fwd my email to my sms email domain so my email is sent to (my number)@tmomail.net. Thus, I get alerts when I have an email and then can go and manually grab them. However, my master sync is still turned on for everything.
First, today, I still got a few emails come through automatically even though push is off. Is that normal?
Also, Exchange services all day today was first or second place on my battery stats, and showed under total connection time that it was connected about 30% of the time., even though under my running services in settings, both the email and exchange ram usage are very minimal, less than 10mb each. Why is it still so high in my battery stats, with push turned off? Before changing push to manual, I usually had: 1. Android system and 2. Screen before exchange services under my battery stats. In fact, exchange was usually not even in the top 5. What could be the cause of this? So far all I have done is clear my email and exchange cache and it has had no affect. The odd part about this is I'm still getting excellent battery life. It has improved. I'm about 1 hour screen time per 10% battery usage. I keep my screen pretty dim, which I think has made the biggest difference. However, it still seems like exchange should not be so high up on my battery stats list, especially with pushed turned off.
Finally, are there anymore email clients that offer sms alerts when you have new mail in your inbox? Gmail and outlook discontinued that feature, and I'd rather use that than having my email fwd to my tmomail.net, which comes through as a very long mms.
Thanks all.