Returning Captivate to Purchase Canadian Vibrant with Front Camera - Captivate General

I just saw this in Engadget.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/23/b...value-599-launching-august-6th/#comment-61062
In Canada, Bell is releasing their version of Galaxy S. However, there phone have FRONT FACING CAMERA. I bought the captivate outright without contract, so i paid full $500. Bell and AT&T are in the same network. It will run in the US without any problems.
They said it will be released on the 6th of Aug. Thank god now i can return the Captivate without any problems. I don't mind the look of the Vibrant. However, with the Canadian Model, you can download Euro firmware with no issues.

You'll probably still have radio issues using Euro firmware.
I'd go that route myself, but I am on Telus so there's still that whole lock thing to sort out.

Since i will be buying the phone right out for full price, I should have them provide me a unlock code. when flashing i won't need to flash the modem/phone file. just the pda/firmware and the csc file. what other issues is there? right? thats why i posted.
Quad band: ATT modem/phone will work
Firmware: i9000 pda files will work
CSC: ATT file should be fine too.
Now when flashing Captivate with JM1/JM2 you have to re-flash the phone with the right kernel so that we have all hardware functions. on this phone we will not have to. since the i9000 hardware and Canadian hardware is the same. Right? If i am misunderstanding these finds, please feel free to correct me. I would appreciate all info i can have.

Hmm not sure. I think the US versions got the 6 axis thing. You might have issues.

I think six axis on all Galaxy S models. That is just one of SGS features not just Captivate.

sl8125 said:
I think six axis on all Galaxy S models. That is just one of SGS features not just Captivate.
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That is correct.

sl8125 said:
I just saw this in Engadget.
Bell and AT&T are in the same network.
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huh? I thought Rogers and AT&T were identical networks...band wise.

why not wait for the new ipod touch =D

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galaxy s2 or Skyrocket

What i mostly wanna know is about data seeds. Which ice is better, and pictures a are a must. Speedtest
I was on the same boat as you, an eventually decided to get the SG2 because of the reviews,faster processor, an the Custom ROM's.
This video can help you out, both phones are great an fast just Google this.
Samsung Galaxy S II vs. Skyrocket – Smartphone Smackdown! (Video)
i bought samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket and i returned it and got sgs2 only because of the pictures.. For me I think the picture quality in sgs2 is way better than skyrocket its more crisp and not pixilated.. oh by the way another reason is its hard to text in one hand on skyrocket.
Skyrocket the best!!!!!
They are generally the same phone but the skyrocket is at&t's version of the Samsung Galaxy S II
canyon789 said:
They are generally the same phone but the skyrocket is at&t's version of the Samsung Galaxy S II
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Ok, this is like the 4th thread you commented on and you clearly don't know what you are talking about. The Skyrocket is not AT&Ts version of the SGSII. That would be the I777. The Skyrocket is the LTE version of the SGSII which coincidentally is the same phone (hardware wise) as the T-mobile hercules. OP, if you live in an area that supports LTE, get the skyrocket...if not, get the regular SGSII.
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Ok, this is like the 4th thread you commented on and you clearly don't know what you are talking about. The Skyrocket is not AT&Ts version of the SGSII. That would be the I777. The Skyrocket is the LTE version of the SGSII which coincidentally is the same phone (hardware wise) as the T-mobile hercules. OP, if you live in an area that supports LTE, get the skyrocket...if not, get the regular SGSII.
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Not really, T-Mobile's GSII is lacking the LTE bits of the Skyrocket (which makes both not the same hardware-wise), which is AT&T's version for the SGSII LTE.
lolstebbo said:
Not really, T-Mobile's GSII is lacking the LTE bits of the Skyrocket (which makes both not the same hardware-wise), which is AT&T's version for the SGSII LTE.
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Actually the LTE Radio is tucked away in there. Devs are working on the radio situation with that phone. They are the exact same phone. Same body, same guts, different branding. They can flash each others ROM's and radios, but they havent figured out a way to unlock the LTE radio inside of the hercules.
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Actually the LTE Radio is tucked away in there. Devs are working on the radio situation with that phone. They are the exact same phone. Same body, same guts, different branding. They can flash each others ROM's and radios, but they havent figured out a way to unlock the LTE radio inside of the hercules.
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Really? [citation needed]
Yes really
galaxy s2 or the note are better than the Skyrocket
2020legig said:
galaxy s2 or the note are better than the Skyrocket
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Better when it comes to screen resolution.
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hi there. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and would like to Root my device. I downloaded the DXKL3 insecure and original file. I would like to know if it will work as mine is I900DXKF4? it is the closest i could find to my Kernel.
Please advise
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Agree, galaxy SII . hands down
definitely Samsung Galaxy S2 for me, way superior

[Q] Why no love for the 9020a?

So, I've been running 4.03 with the UCKF1 radio since December, but I'm really wanting a stock update from Google. Why haven't they released anything for the 9020a at all? It's just a different radio from the 9020T and now the 9020T has seen 2 ICS revisions, while if I chose to only use the official OTA process, I'd still be on GB. Is Google finally going to release something for the 9020a now?
I don't believe anyone here can answer you with 100% certainty.
I still believe however that if we didn't see a release, there's a reason. But people aren't too good at the waiting game.
I'm starting to think 9020A may not be a nexus.
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I am pretty sure you won't see a difference. Might as well stick with what you have. Also 4.0.4 is out too
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Waiting for 4.0.4 for my nexus s...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
well it just a matter to wait and see....
According to JBQ, Google is waiting for Operator Approval. Same thing with Sprint...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
bozzykid said:
Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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AT&T doesn't have anything to do with the software. They are just sent the ROMs for testing. Unless you are implying Google is adding it to Nexus devices?
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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At times like this I really do hate the North American carriers. I was pretty misinformed up to this point as to the nature of android updates on the nexus phones. I was always under this blissfully ignorant impression that it was fully under google's control to push updates at their sole discretion. Sort of like the advertising led me to believe.
So now that false belief has become painfully apparent to me, replaced with the knowledge that the carriers still have the ultimate say.
I doubt very much now that this update will be seen any time soon OTA in Canada if Telus has any say in the matter. Hopefully AT&T will authorize it soon so we can at least get a factory image we can flash ourselves.
Yes this wait is hella annoying especilly since i've been forced to use i9020t as base for mine but for those who are adventurous you can download the factory image for the i9020t from https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/soju-imm76d-factory-ca4ae9ee.tgz and slectively flash boot.img and system.img.
You just need to unlock bootloader (backup first it wipes device) download the archive, extract the boot.img and system.img and flash them.
The commands are:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Can't tell if trolling or not.....
What else is there that would require carrier approval?
Then again, perhaps the carriers selling the 9020A have been diligently testing a new radio file over the last three and a half months.
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They need to test a new radio because the at&t radios are slow on 3g. I have to use the older kb3 radio just to get barely usable 3g speed
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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You'll excuse carriers for not wanting to cripple their networks because some radios might be misbehaving...
Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
Not too long ago, everyone found GB to be nice and dandy, now everyone wants to flee from it like the plague. The update will come in due time, and I for one largely prefer a polished version rather than one with issues.
So far the ICS release has seen enough bugs, some that even warranted a pull on the plug. I don't feel the rush to upgrade to something that won't work right...
My 2 cents
So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
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I don't think there would be as much outrage if ICS hadn't been released for any version of the Nexus S yet.
It's not that people are upset that they don't have ICS; they're upset because some versions of the Nexus S have gotten updates while theirs have not.
Google promoted the Nexus line of phones as getting updates "as soon as they are available," because the updates are independent of the carriers, since they're supposed to come directly from Google. People were sold on the promise that there wouldn't be several months of delays between new Android versions and Nexus phone updates because it was a "pure Google" phone.
The news that apparently the carriers need to "approve" Nexus builds before Google pushes them out flies in the face of what Google told people they were getting.
The T-Mobile Nexus S now has 4.0.4, and my AT&T Nexus S doesn't even have 2.3.6 yet. So much for always having the latest available version.
That's why people are upset.
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So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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The delay is probably not just AT&T. Canadian carriers are known for taking longer to test updates than even AT&T. Who exactly Google is waiting on right now is not exactly clear.

Which would you choose?

If you were going to buy outright and unlocked, which version of the one x would you buy?
I know that the AT&T version of the phone had some better benchmark results along with better battery life results, but I know that can be adjusted through rom/kernel, etc.
So which would you buy outright?
The international version (Im not in an LTE market) or the ATT version?
The AT&T version without a doubt. That is, if the 16gb of storage is not an issue.
i bought outright, and i got the at&t one
would opt for the Rogers
chaosjh said:
i bought outright, and i got the at&t one
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+1...but the locked bootloader is pretty awful and is making me reconsider.
shinji21 said:
would opt for the Rogers
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Probably this. It has the HTC branding instead of AT&T... and it also has the S4 processor which has been proven to be at least on par with Tegra3 or better. Its also been proven to be better at battery life.
Also, no locked bootloader.
The international versions has had some graphical bugs and other issues, probably related to the Tegra drivers. Some folks over in the "other" forum are saying not to expect a fix from Nvidia any time soon on this.
Also, what if they end up launching LTE in your areas sometime soon? Could be a cause for regret.
The additional storage, and probable better dev support are the only real benefits of the international version, IMO.
AT&T/HTC kept the bootloader on the Vivid locked for about a month after that phone's release. I'm not worried about it, as I think a similar thing will happen with the One X.
Yeah I just sent my 32Gb baby back for a refund due to flickering getting worse n worse. I dont know if I can live with 9.9gb but I am gonna try because I loved the phone but couldnt deal with the flickering once it got bad.
The Rogers XL. In fact, I just snagged one.
Beamed from my Rogers HTC One XL
Is there a site we can order the rogers one X from or do we just have to find us a canadian friend or hope ebay has one?
Oh no locked boot loader but it will be unlocked in a month?? Oh no the world is over smh
I bought mine outright , had a 'review unit' for a week prior. Best update, was worth the $704 (Ontario HST Included) I spent on it.
.. delegated by Nigerian princes
I'd pick the AT&T version, even if not just for LTE.

Skyrocket vs. SGS II i9100?

I'm looking at buying a used phone as an upgrade. I've got the no-upgrade T-Mobile plan so I'm paying out of pocket full price.
I am looking into getting a Galaxy S II and the Skyrocket seems to go for around $50 cheaper on ebay than the i9100. But specs wise it seems the same if not better (bigger screen and LTE). Is there a reason that I'm missing?
I'm looking for anything in the $250-$300 dollar range, so if you can point me to something better I'd appreciate it. I'm currently using the Samsung Vibrant. Most important thing for me is GPS speed and accuracy, which is abismal on the Vibrant.
you do reliaze that skyrocket and i9100 are NOT compatible with tmobile data , and also will not work as gsm unless unlocked ... fast forward , get the t mobile SII.
SkyRocket can work with T-Mo band, but not in stock form - will require baseband flash.
If you're on T-Mobile get a T-Mobile phone.
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mahanddeem said:
you do reliaze that skyrocket and i9100 are NOT compatible with tmobile data , and also will not work as gsm unless unlocked ... fast forward , get the t mobile SII.
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I did not realize. Shoot.
Ok, I'll look into the t-mobile branded one.
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SkyRocket can work with T-Mo band, but not in stock form - will require baseband flash.
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Well I'm not the type who like buggy phones or electronics...Please don't tell me the new ported radio from another phone will work on the skyrocket and unlocks the AWS band I know about it , but it just doesn't deserve all the hassle rather than getting a T-Mobile S II in case of the OP...
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alyyx said:
I did not realize. Shoot.
Ok, I'll look into the t-mobile branded one.
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Don't get the skyrocket and mess with the radio...You'll end up with a buggy phone...Get the T-Mobile S2 and be done with it..You will not also need to unlock it cause you'll use it on its own network...
alyyx said:
I'm looking at buying a used phone as an upgrade. I've got the no-upgrade T-Mobile plan so I'm paying out of pocket full price.
I am looking into getting a Galaxy S II and the Skyrocket seems to go for around $50 cheaper on ebay than the i9100. But specs wise it seems the same if not better (bigger screen and LTE). Is there a reason that I'm missing?
I'm looking for anything in the $250-$300 dollar range, so if you can point me to something better I'd appreciate it. I'm currently using the Samsung Vibrant. Most important thing for me is GPS speed and accuracy, which is abismal on the Vibrant.
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If you willing to spend 250-300, just get the Nexus4 its 299. You cant beat that, the phone is your and dont have to worry about contract. Or check out craigslist (I always had luck on there, BB 9700,9800, HD2, Skyrocket, etc...)

Which Galaxy S7 to get for AT&T if bought outright and want to avoid bloat?

Quick background story, I've been using an HTC phone since the M7, and owned all the M Flagships and currently using an AT&T Branded M9. My wife is currently using a AT&T branded Galaxy S5. I really liked how open my HTC phones are, and all 3 of them had been able to be Fully SIM Unlocked, S-OFF, and can run any compatible ROM. The AT&T Branded GS5 of course only can use AT&T Software and its been a pain waiting on AT&T for patches and updates.
We're planning to replace them both with new Galaxy S7s and since we're planning to buy them outright, my question is which one should we buy? From I read it looks like all units have the same hardware, but the TMO variants seems to at least have the bootloader unlocked and should be SIM Unlocked if I bought it outright.
Our basic requirements.
- Sim unlocked(able)
- Bootloader Unlocked(able)
- Able to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay in the USA
- Rooting is nice but not required, and as long as it don't break A.Pay/S.Pay
- Able to work on AT&T with little or no issue (not missing any LTE Bands, etc)
- Open to get the Exynos model if can still support A.Pay/S.Pay in USA and elsewhere.
- Able to flash debloated or custom ROMs if needed
Its been awhile since i did any work on any Samsung Phones, so I don't know if its just as easy to flash ROMs and Recoveries like my HTCs
Thanks for any feedback on the matter.
You want the tmo version.
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You want the tmo version.
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It figures as much. How easy or difficult is it to flash non-carrier rom? I know people are just started getting their S7s, did the s6 have any issues with flashing a clean rom and keeping all A.Pay and S.Pay?
There's no development currently on these phones since the sources haven't dropped yet since the phone hasn't technically launched, after mar 11 samsung will release some sources.
If you're looking to remove bloat on non-rooted phones your only options is this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en with a rooted rom android/samsung pay wont work.
Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
Goofytek said:
Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
lopri said:
No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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Hmmm, still missing out on Samsung Pay eh, I wonder if there would be a non-carrier version of the phone we can get in the states with full support of all avaliable features and services. :fingers-crossed:
I'd like to bump this old thread for updates now that the S7 has been around for some time. I'm looking to get an S7, and it looks like the G930U variant might be the one to get now- is that right? I have the same requirements as the original poster, but I'll list them anyway:
-Able to work on AT&T with no issue (I read somewhere that some aspects of AT&T LTE are not supported? What impact does this have?)
-root is required (is it true that rooting prevents being able to encrypt the phone?)
-no bloat or bloat is removable (seems this is the main benefit of G930U?)
-SD card slot (seems like all US models have the SD card slot?)
Are there different versions of the G930U? Is this, for example, the right one: http://a.co/6QgYIxA ?
Thanks

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