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I been struggling between these new phone, and wondering which is the best to get. I'm leaning toward Diamond since I could get it by tomorrow, but heard many bad things with it's battery life, lack of memory card slot, and such. So can anyone tell me if I should get the Diamond or should I just give it alittle wait for something else ?
HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch HD, Samsung Omnia, IPhone 3G, Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1, Andoid? ......... etc.
Thanks in advance !
The diamond is a decent choice for a new phone, however if you can afford it, hold out for the Touch HD, Xperia, Or Dream/G1.
Those 3 phones will be the most killer handsets to hit the market this year.
Touch Diamond is right below them, still making a great handset. But go with a more powerful device if you can. They become outdated quickly.
The thing with the touch HD is that is is almost exactly the same spec to the touch pro including the same chipset and battery, combined with a massive screen the HD must draw more power, its basic physics and since it uses the same chipset its doubtful it will have much in the way of more power efficency so to the point the battery must be pretty poor compared to a pro.
So Yes the HD sounds great but the battery question needs to be answered first
Diamond in my opinion is a bit to small and the battery is very poor otherwise its very good
Pro is a bit more chunky than the diamond but is actually much the same size as previous generation of phones even with a keyboard its smaller than an O2 Orbit.
Iphone looks nice, and does its job well, but in my opinion its poor quality your very limited in what you can do with it and i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole due to its big brother style atitude to software, music and phone contract.
the other two i have no experiece with so cant really comment, for me im going to see how i like the Pro when O2 releases it, hopefully the question on HD battery life can be answered by then, then i can make my mind up.
As stated above, wait for the last models of 2008:
Omnia, HD, G1, Xperia
And after that you can make your choice
Diamond is not bad, but there are much better models
Depends on how much you want to spend.............
Diamonds are forever!
I know people go on about the Diamonds' battery life, but considering the power and size of this little device, I wouldn't consider it useless!
I get a good two days use out of mine... a few calls, loads of internet browsing, WiFi use, games, and music via a bluetooth headset. I really don't think that's bad. Let's face it, the only phones that last a week on one charge these days are feeble lack-lustre, brick sized devices.
Another point to remember is that because the TF3D interface is sooo much fun to play with, people are probably using their Diamonds' a whole lot more than their previous devices, therefore giving the impression that the battery life is poor.
The Touch HD does look good, but remember it's bigger and will be more power hungry! I think the Diamond is the best in it's class... best size... best specs... best TFT... I LOVE IT!!!
I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!
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I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!
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Hi galaxys
May I ask where you place your preorder for HTC HD?
And for what country¿
Thanks
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Hi galaxys, May I ask where you place your preorder for HTC HD?
And for what country¿Thanks
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Hi, from the UK & should be available in November...here's the company web:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
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I know people go on about the Diamonds' battery life, but considering the power and size of this little device, I wouldn't consider it useless!
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My Orbit can last up to ~8 hours using its GPS on a standard 1250 battery
HTC Touch Diamond according to HTC, will last 2 hours, even taking in to account battery sizes, the diamond isnt very power economical.
But your right, dont use the GPS and the phone isnt to bad, indeed it would probably last as long as my orbit so in that respect it does a a good job, the problem with that way of thinking is if i leave it on my desk in standby and never use it at all it will last for a week or more
but seriously its a great little PDA and if size is important than thats a winner, if high usability is, than perhaps its not the phone for you.
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I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!
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Thats a bold thing to do, unreviewed, unproven apart from a couple of vids an a few snaps, ignoring the bigger screen and the better camera that the HD has and the keyboard that the Pro has they are identical i believe, oh not forgetting the 3.5mm jack on the HD.
What im concerned about is the battery on the HD, running that thing may take a lot more juice an the pro wasnt great in the first place.
Thats a bold gamble, one i think i'll wait until the reviews start flying about giving ideas of its good and bad points.
Thank alot for the reply guys !
I have decided just to get the Diamond since it's a decent phone and I could get my hand on it right now. I'll pass on those new phones since they might have the same flaw or even more problems. I'll be a proud owner of Diamond in a few hours.
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Hi, from the UK & should be available in November...here's the company web:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
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Thanks a lot mate
I´ll have to wait for a friend travelling to UK to buy it for me and bring it to Mexico, if i wait to carriers to bring it here will be too old to buy...
Cheers,
HI
I am currently looking at Hd2 vs Nokia N900. Tough choice for me and the battery situation on the Hd2 has me worried. Anyway, on googling the battery situation and how to get the most out of it I found a page that said the HTC sense takes alot of the bettery drain but installing SPD Shell is far better.
Anyway - just installed it on my HTC Wizard and quite impressed.
I was wondering if anyone else uses it over the HTC sense and if so, does it indeed improve battery life?
Thanks
Scott
I was very tempted to go back to ms 3.5.2, but after a week with leo's manila I gotta say, that in my opinion it looks better and what more it is quite well designed. battery life is nothing special indeed comparing to my previous device x1. xperia could survive up to 3 days of normal use, while on hd2 I only get about 24 hours. it is not too bad, and I can live with charging it every day though.
I was also torn between those two devices (hd2 and n900) but hd2 is soooo damn sweet, that I couldn't resist. I do not regret it. see... I'm not a linux guy nor h4x0r, so more likely I wouldn't get that n900 feeling anyway, if You know what I mean. with winmo I just feel like I came back home...
Hi,
I bought a HTC Hero last week but it came with a dead pixel so I sent it back (eBay). I didn't use it, really, but Andoid looks nice. (I am a Widows Mobile veteran - 2006-2010, and I'm 18).
I bought a T-Mobile 30 day rolling contract last week (£10 - 100 mins, 100 texts + internet booster),, which is a great value, so I was looking to buy a handset separately (hence Hero). Ideally I want to spend £200 to £250. No more, because prices depreciate very quickly from higher than that.
I was looking at another Hero, but realised how cheap a Desire or Legend or X10 could be, if on a contract!
For a 24 month contract, at £10 per month (100 mins, 100 texts + internet booster), a Desire would be £164 from T-Mobile. This is fantastic, I think, as I would ALWAYS spend at least £10 on airtime.
An Xperia X10 would be £226!
I hope this helps some people, as I was pleasantly surprised by the T-Mobile UK prices. I am working right now but will be a student in London next year, so I don't want a contract that's too expensive (ideally no more than £20 per month).
Also, I've read that Virgin will offer some of these - should I try Virgin or steer clear?
However, there's a part of me that thinks I should buy a cheaper phone that can still communicate just as well, and wait for Windows Phone 7.
What should I do, what should I do? What are you doing?
I'm trying to decide myself whether i should get the X10 or the Desire. I like the X10 form factor, but the display of the desire seems to be much better... AMOLED + 16m colors vs 65k :/
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I'm trying to decide myself whether i should get the X10 or the Desire. I like the X10 form factor, but the display of the desire seems to be much better... AMOLED + 16m colors vs 65k :/
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Had those thoughts about the screen myself, some time ago and today too.
From a comparison review (can't remember where) there appears not be a huge difference (i.e. 56k doesn't make much difference). AMOLED has its downsides also.
Maybe I'll start a thread on this...
From what I see on GSMarena the most notable differences are screen size and display. X10 also has 1GB of memory instead of the 512 of the desire.
Main thing that is drawing me towards X10 is that i have had 3 HTCs so far and the driver quality is abysmal on WiMo phones, dunno how they are on Android. If they still lack GPU drivers for the chips then defenetly I will be leaning towards the X10.
for me theres only 1 choice, desire. it has better screen, it has sense, android 2.1 not 1.6 and u dont know when its gonna get an update if it actually will get one. and desire looks better
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From what I see on GSMarena the most notable differences are screen size and display. X10 also has 1GB of memory instead of the 512 of the desire.
Main thing that is drawing me towards X10 is that i have had 3 HTCs so far and the driver quality is abysmal on WiMo phones, dunno how they are on Android. If they still lack GPU drivers for the chips then defenetly I will be leaning towards the X10.
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you dont need that much memory anyway, x10 still lags and has that stupid keyboard bug while typing first word
I think HTC Desire with HTC sense is a much more robust and refined way of using Android personally
HTC have been fiddling with Android since the G1 - and they've got it pretty much spot on now.. Which is why i've finally taken the plunge with the HTC Desire.
It's going to another 1/2 phones until i think Sony really has a grip on their UI and Android itself, but the X10 is one hell of a first attempt. Also only further confirms how seriously the likes of Sony are taking Android now.
Motorola, Sony, Samsung LG and HTC - all backing Android in a very big way.
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I think HTC Desire with HTC sense is a much more robust and refined way of using Android personally
HTC have been fiddling with Android since the G1 - and they've got it pretty much spot on now.. Which is why i've finally taken the plunge with the HTC Desire.
It's going to another 1/2 phones until i think Sony really has a grip on their UI and Android itself, but the X10 is one hell of a first attempt. Also only further confirms how seriously the likes of Sony are taking Android now.
Motorola, Sony, Samsung LG and HTC - all backing Android in a very big way.
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Do you have any more insight regarding the driver support on HTC android sets? Particularly the Qualcomm GPU drivers (Which are absent in WiMo). I figure thats the main drawback of my HD... If it had proper driver support it wouldn't seem slow..
If someone who has used either, could compare (X10 particularly) in the coming days and weeks, it would be great.
I will almost probably go for the X10, for its superior sound quality (not great, but on my Hero it was poor, and Desire probably will be too) and camera. I use these features quite a bit, surprisingly, as I won't carry an MP3 player and camera in addition to this (especially as it's huge).
I hope with some confidence that bugs will be addressed very quickly and the 2.1 update rolled out soon after. I look at at as a handset with potential. This applies to screen colours too, I suppose.
This is based on an Engadget review. Not very in-depth, but it's a start (hopefully GSM Arena et al. will review the final product soon)
I might well buy it on Friday or Saturday (next wage!), from T-Mobile (online), so feel free to ask questions after I confirm it's arrived.
T-Mobile is good value!
Say handset only X1 is £450.
It's around £230 on a 24 month £10 contract with 100 mins, 100 texts, internet + booster. Total = £470!!!
I want the white one though, so maybe I should wait a few weeks for Orange.
Hello everyone, this is yet another "which phone should I get" thread, so if you are sick of them please move on but I would be grateful for every input.
So up to now I have been using N900 which to me is a very good device, with a lot of room to improve of course, but lack off Nokia's support has just pissed me off. I'm a heavy google user (gmail, calendar & stuff) so android seems like a natural progression. Now, since I have N900 I'm obviously into modding and stuff I'm looking for a very similar android device. Atm that would be HTC HD2, the thing is I consider this phone just too old, I'm looking for a fairly new device, possibly not even out yet, which is sure to get a lot of love from xda and other devs. So yeah, I'm not even sure if it's possible to foretold which device will become the new HD2 in the android world, perhaps it has something to do with open hardware drivers, hope you guys have a better clue. I plan to stick with this phone for another 1,5 year and I just can't afford 2 smart phones at the same time, so I'm basically looking for the best long term investment.
Please, note that I'm from Europe, where not all devices are available or will be delayed. I can probably wait with the purchase until May. I don't have any preferences towards particular brand.
Thank you for your help,
YUMad
my guess is ull have to wait for the fist 4+" dual core htc device for all the htc folks to jump ship
We should wait a cycle of 2-3 yr until that super device replacement arrives, that´s the usual but anything can happen!
With the speed of phones developing these days, won't be 2-3 years. More like half a year to one year.
I don't think you could really answer this question. No one will know until the phone has been released.
As of right now, there's no worthy HD2 successor yet. HTC ups their high-end phone every year (diamond 2008, blackstone 2009, HD2 2010, etc) so cross your fingers for that mythical 1.5ghz dual-core snapdragon hopefully by the end of this year...
In my opinion, The HD2 is still one of the biggest power houses on the market. A 1 ghz processor. Yea there making awesome phones, but very few of them are being made with the components that are within the HD2. Correct me if I'm wrong. Its a stacked phone and you pair it with an Android ROM, and its right up there with anything else.
Oh well, guess it wasn't that hard to convince me. I'm getting HD2 and will slowly watch how the things unfold. Thanks everyone!
How about a poll?
I agree that the HD2 is getting too old to buy as a new phone. I think the step change we've all been looking forward to is coming in the forms of the dual core processor phones due this year. I think it will be a choice along the lines of:
1. Motorola Atrix
2. LG Optimus 2x
3. Other Android device
4. Other WP7 device
I have been a die hard HTC fan since 2002 so I wish I could vote for Option 3 but I just can't wait so I pick Option 1.
See http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37892/lg-optimus-2x-vs-motorola-atrix-4g
The point is you can't just look at any mobile you'd like, compare it specs to HD2 and say, all right we have a rightful successor, there are many other factors to consider. Again, I'm not a developer myself so I don't know much about the whole process but for example N900 still doesn't have a full android experience ported and that is due to closed nature of it's hardware drivers rather than hardware limitations. Also, as far as I know this forum was/is mostly about HTC handsets so I believe a HTC product will be heavly favoured.
I just got a hd2, no box in brand new condition for 140 so I hope the development love is sustained. I will try and help with graphics.
You really will like the HD2. I got mine for 49 bucks when my contract was up for my blackberry a couple months back. Ive loved it. So many different options to choose from and the custom ROM's just add to the mix. I just put the new NAND Android ROM on mine and it runs flawlessly. Not 1 issue soo far and it is freaking fast. No offense to Windows, but Android software is second to none. Like I said earlier, match these two things together, and you will have a powerhouse thats just as good, possibly even way better than the Droid 2 and Evo 4G. I'd recommend getting this phone...But I do recommend that you upgrade to Android. Any questions, just leave me a message.
hd2
there is no phone who can beat hd2 maybe the samsun galaxy s how ever we will wait for the 1.5 ghz phone but the hd2 is thé phone!!!!
There's no way of knowing, because manufacturers rightfully don't release information on the hardware that would be important in identifying an "HD2 successor". What made the HD2 so amazing was the completely unlocked bootloader/NAND. Plus the hardware on it was ahead of its time. People talk about the phone as if it was a 2010 phone, not even realizing it came out in November 2009!
HTC Vision may be the 2011 version but no one knows for sure.
i personally think HD2 has a couple of years left ...
every manufacturer accidently makes a phone that amazez every one
For instance Motorola had mm L7 few years back it was modded till i finally bricked it same is the case with HD2. i mean with so many developers working on this phone i think there is more to come. As far as succesor is concerned well im no programmer but each os is processor dependant. As long as they keep recipe the same we can be looking into a new Super moddable phone
P.S i dont think dual core or that crap would change much, as long as we have so many choices on HD2 im still drooling over it
phone changes a lot,i can catch this fashion.
For decent replace I would go to Motorola Atrix or how I heard Milestone in Europe...
I <3 my HD2
best phone I ever bought
for development/much tweaks you need an older phone the older the more been developped plus the HD2 has a series of great dev's
plus MIUI on HTC HD2 is so much more than iphone
I wanted an iphone 4 lately, some guy wanted to talk me into trading it,
then I tried and I hate that the iphone only has one button, it's not as responsive. next to that all icons are in homescreen, you can only make maps, in android you can switch between launcher or homescreen, and so on..
No newer phone at the market really makes me say 'wow' atm, but I can't deny I look every day, for u successor.
When will I make the step?
- Water and dustproof
- glass better then gorillaglas
- 4G / 5G
- 10 MP cam
- android
- SUPERB batterylife
- good antenna
- DLNA
- HDMI
- WIFI N
- VOICE COMMANDS IN MY LANGUAGE
I don't care who makes it but I'll get it
HD2 is power monster , it can do anything . no other phone can handle that much load
shattered screen
Someone accidentally made my HD2 drop and shattered the screen with a sofa smashing her against the wall. I was quoted $150 US by ubreakifix to replace the screen. I can't wait to get if fixed even though the HTC One S is $200 plus $20/month for 20 months. Yes the One S sports modern specs but it is not as gorgeous as the HD2.
I borrowed my daughter's HD2 and gave her the iPhone 3GS. She was not happy. Even though she is not using a data plan.
I want a Windows Phone which hackers can tweak to run Android. But nothing less than the HTC HD2.
Windows Phone 8 is a long way.
Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
3. Pls reply
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Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
3. Pls reply
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hello
Phone very nice, although very nearly one year old now
Battery life completely depends on what you do, but should easily get one day full of high activity or a couple with minimal, will depend on which ROM you use and how phone is configured
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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hello
Phone very nice, although very nearly one year old now
Battery life completely depends on what you do, but should easily get one day full of high activity or a couple with minimal, will depend on which ROM you use and how phone is configured
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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Hey thanks for the reply... By the specs i saw is just 1GHZ?? and 1GB RAM(More precise 768 MB or something)...
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Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
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Hi Prashanth.
Coming from the Galaxy Ace, this will blow your mind....especially if you've never used Sense before. The hardware is top notch...and you'll notice the worlds apart it it from Samsung, the moment you lay your hands on it. The camera is leagues ahead of your current phone too, and so is the screen. Same goes for the powertrain and internal memory as compared to the Ace.
That said, if you notice, i've repeatedly stressed on "compared to the Galaxy Ace" in my comments above. This is because there is no absolute, universal answer to your question, and there needs to be a reference point for comparison. If you compare it to other phones however, there are pluses and minuses depending on what you're comparing it to, and what amount of money you're willing to put into it.
Most of us here at the DS forum bought this phone when it was a premium device, and probably the first HTC phone with Gingerbread. So we paid a premium even though larger phones were available at a comparable price - add or subtract a couple of thousand rupees (the Incredible S, for example). So most of here believe that this is the ideal device - 3.7 inches being the perfect screen size to be one-hand-operable, and the form factor being one of the most ergonomic i've seen in any phone.
Battery life is top-notch as far as smartphones go, especially once you load up a custom ROM like Reaper or Endymion... but you won't be beating a Nokia feature phone if that's what you're after. Everybody at the smartphone scene agrees that a bigger battery is better, and of course we'd like a 4000mA battery! But there are technical, engineering and aesthetic components that constrain that choice for each device.
I would advise you to wait for the One series of new HTC phones, but after some very thorough reading up on the new lineup, i'm kinda disappointed in them. The two biggest gripes i have are : 1) No removable battery; and 2) No expandable memory (approx 11GB of user accessible memory is not adequate by a long shot IMHO. So even today, I stand by the Desire S as the best single device I have ever used, and I recently bought one more (for my wife) despite no constraints on the money I was willing to spend, or a dearth of choices...
But remember, modding on an HTC is very different from that on a Samsung. No more ODIN for you... get ready for a lot of new terminology and a different approach to customizing your phone. Also, the DS suffers from one ultimate hazard, and that is a high probability of an eMMC chip corruption (hardware bricking) if you pull out the battery while the phone is powered up. As long as you take that as gospel truth and avoid it, you'll be fine.
And even if you disregard everything that i've said above... just throw it all out the window.... this phone would still be worth buying simply because you won't find a better online community on any other device out there. You'll only realize this once you start hanging around here... That, in my opinion, is one of the strongest suites of this device, and I advise you to check out the community support on ANY device, whichever you may eventually decide to go for, before you buy it. You can buy a house my friend, but you can't buy family.
If you ask me if it was worth it...if I would do buy this phone again if given a chance to start over...my answer is Yes... It was, and i'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Hey Amith, thanks for ur precious time to type the info... The Thing which surprised me was SENSE.. Actually before buying ACE i was settled to WILDFIRE S.. But the phone had many constraints like the processor, But RAM was Gud.. But Desire series is wat i like the most.. My close friend own a desire.. I always like the tru color display..which blows my mind.. I would hav bought the desire S last week.. But its 1GHz stopped me because once we own a phone it should be of maximum potential.. So i thought if in future release of desire series any dual core i m ready to buy that.. Also with a HUGE RAM (~2GB )... The only thing brags me is battery life.. Mine gives around 21-22HRS with normal usage.. So i m waiting till next month end, if by that time if HTC releases a dual core in desires i ll buy off that
Thanks for the reply guys
This phone is amazing, but a little old. Compared to the Ace, it's much harder to root. But the custom ROMs are quiet better. My friend rooted his Ace yesterday, Desire S users will be shocked to know how easy it was - download a SU ZIP file and flash via Samsung's recovery. No S-Off, no HTC Dev, nothing. But he had a hard time looking for ROMs, he liked just CM9 whose camera doesn't work.
Currently, i would not advise you to buy this, for the simple reason that it's a year old. Why trade an outdated phone for another one? Wait for the ONE series, but if you can't wait, then this is the perfect choice for you
enigmaamit,
Awesome mate. I second everything single word you have written. I bought mine in April 2011 and rooted in December. Now I have settled down with MIUI ROM.
I haven't used the HTC one series but among the available models there is none that even come close to this phone in design and ergonomics. Now I have taken off the screen guard and case mate cover and fallen in love with this phone all over again! The htc one s & x would have a carbon fibre finish, how cool would that be!
Sent from my Desire S using XDA
Best phone I ever had.
Great battery life (2 day average), great selection of roms, fast & smooth, perfect size (3.7" pwns), and on top of that all, a great community!
I also think we are up to date on the latest software. I mean we got ICS, sense 3.0, 3.5 (all runs smooth as butter), and soon we'll have sense 3.6 and 4.0 running as well.
I have to agree with the others though, if I were to get a phone now, i'd wait for the One series.
I really like the phone - everything runs smoothly so far. Sense 3.5 is the best UI I've used so far.
Battery is good enough - I have to charge every night, but I use the phone a lot during the day.
Anyway - now I would probably wait for the One.