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I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE
I'm currently running the XM6r3 ROM, and my battery life is less than half of what it was with WM5. Anyone else notice this? I'm thinking it might be related to the weather panel app.
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
I'm experiencing the same issues...with only 2 or 3 days of the iphone theme, with Slide2Unlock and WisBar, my battery barely makes it 18 hours.
I'm going to try the suggestion of flashing it back to original and them just the latest WM6 (screw the iphone stuff).
I do take into effect that I use it more than I did before. I did not have weather panel with wm5, and I also use battery status. I only recently started overclocking it. I also use direct push with our exchange server.
I flashed it with the T-Mobile rom before upgrading. The radio is 2.25.11.
I guess it just comes with the territory I'm going to have get in the habit of charging it more often, because I like it WAY more than WM5.
mfrazzz said:
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
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Very hypothetical and analytical description of the Battery consumption problem being faced,cudn't be explained more elaborately .
Stock wm5 Roms never had any such applications as new wm6 custom Roms offer.
secondly over clocking will definitely effect the battery power.
I noticed too. Probably the file connmrg.exe is taking all the CPU power, that's why the battery's life is so worse. Batterystatus gives a constantly 100% CPU usage display...
IF you see battery status showing 100% cpu usage you have some other issue. Mine is only at 100% when I start an app or doing heavy work on it. Otherwise it idles back under 195Mhz most of the time with CPUscalar for me. Also depends on what ROM you are running and what apps you have added.
No Problem with battery
I have been using this rom since it was released and have had no problems at all with the battery life.
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM? My 8125 battery was fine on old wm6 ROM, but after I installed XM6r3 (and yes, I did install t-mobile os before to clean it), my battery level goes through the floor.
I managed to charge it to over 50% and installed stock cingular rom, and with no extra applications installed, just the virgin cingular software, BT/wifi not enabled, just gsm radio I still see a drop of few % a minute! So basically, my phone is effectively cannot be detached from charger or my battery will drain very fast and loose ability to start os and begin charging again in the phone.
I can see (using wizard service tool) some cingular customization stuff on the hidden extended rom, does this mean extended rom is not a cause of this? Should I use format ROM tool in WST? (sorry for probably stupid questions)
Is there any way to check that it is indeed the battery being shot and not some obscure software issue? I find it hard to believe that good battery can go bad exactly at the same time as OS upgrade, I am hoping I am missing some obvious software fix
I believe its something else because my girlfriend calls me every morning and I take it out of the charger. I talk to her for a couple minutes 5 minutes tops and I hang up I look at batterystatus and it says 79% left tops. This is OD crazy I don't know if its the rom or the battery. I don't feel like paying 40 bux for a battery and same thing happens. I am currently installing a new rom I am gonna try this for acouple days and see what happens. I only noticed it for one rom but that rom I used for two to three weeks straight I didn't notice with the other roms because I never kept them for more then a day.
Strange enough (Battery life)
Strange enough before reading this post I thought that my phone's battery is dying. But know I can say that its definitely this XM6r3 ROM has some problem. To be precise there is definitely some application that eats the battery. As sometime my battery works fine and other time it just drain. If anyone can work on what application is eating the battery would be appreciated.
Rest the ROM is great.
Harwant
Hi guys, first post here. This place seems to be pretty informative when it comes to WM6 on these phones, so good job everyone on the guides and cookbooks and everything that has gone to it so far. I spent a lot of time searching over which ROM to load, and I ended up trying a XM6R3 version cookbook of WM6 (the basic less feature filled version). It seems pretty neat and my complaints are minor except for one thing, which I am wondering if it is my device specific, and that is battery life. When my Wiz (Cingular 8125) was running WM5 stock version, the battery life was incredible. I never have blue tooth enabled, and rarely enable wifi, but I used the internet all of the time and was constantly checking and sending email through the phone.
Now with WM6, I am lucky if it lasts 1/2 a day, and I have cut down my internet usage (so far I think it is related to that, but I am not sure yet). Today I pulled my phone off the charger at 8AM, and it was just about 100% dead by 10AM. This is a pretty new Wiz too (it was a warrantee replacement received maybe 2 months ago). I will admit that I emailed an attachment out twice this morning before it died that was 23k, but still it isn't THAT much and that battery life is pretty extreme... And of course even though it dies a heck of a lot faster, it still charges very slow. Charging through USB all day after dieing and it isn't to 50% yet...
Does anyone else have this problem? Again I have tried searching and haven't found anything out so far. Here are my version numbers:
IPL 3.08
SPL 3.08
Radio 2.69.11
OS 10.1.0.811
I also applied the Cingular Radio.cab fix that I saw on the site. I practicely leave no program running if at all possible. I really don't want to go back to WM5, and am willing to switch to a different WM6 if I need to. I love the features in WM6, as I said my complaints are really low. Thanks a lot guys. My email is [email protected] to contact me directly if you have a definite solution.
Jason
Did you flash back to the latest officiel release before flashing the WM6 Rom?
You might also want to reflash XM6 or try a different Rom (I've encountered no problem at all with NBD and TNT Roms, so...)
Cheers
Try to flash the empty extended rom.
Some users(including me) reported that a corrupt Extended Rom heavily affects the battery life. (You can check this easy by BatteryStatus; If the CPU stays at 20-30% all the time, then that's the cause)
Re-flash your OEM rom. My cpu was running at 25% at idle, I reflashed my OEM rom and then back to the WM6 rom and now the idle cpu is at 1 to 2%. I messed with my extended rom a while back and never should have touched it. Others have had their extended roms become corrupt on their own.
Jeff
edit: I use the same WM6 rom as you and feel it is probably the best overall WM6 rom out there. I use the full version though.
Your battery reaches end of life, to buy new one!
anichillus said:
Try to flash the empty extended rom.
Some users(including me) reported that a corrupt Extended Rom heavily affects the battery life. (You can check this easy by BatteryStatus; If the CPU stays at 20-30% all the time, then that's the cause)
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How do you see this percentage in BS?
I'm using the last freeware version but can't seem to access that???
Edit: Is it the little icon on the left under the battery? If so, mine remains at a solid 100% and Handyswitcher, which also allows to see CPU usage says "idle process"=> 100%...
Do I have to flash a blank Ext Rom?
If so, can you please tell me how?
Thanks
Edit2: Maybe I should also mention that in idle mode, BS says 155mA as concerns the powerdrain...
To see cpu usage, open battery status and select options, select the indicator tab on the bottom and then check show more indicators. With pocket breeze, BS, and the backlight on my wizard draws ~100mA and the cpu is ~1-3% while at idle. I have seen the battery draw as low as 57mA but I never watch my battery draw as it seems to last two days now since fixing the extended rom issue vs 1/2 to 1 day.
I don't know about flashing a blank rom, I just did what everyone else said and flashed my OEM rom back which also flashes the extended rom back to OEM.
Well I also flashed back to the last official release before flashing tnt 1921, so I guess my ext Rom is OK...
Alright about to start the backup & reflash to the latest official rom. Thanks for all of the replies guys, and about the battery being bad I doubt it, or else it would have been bad back under WM5.
All your problem is the corrupted extended rom. Your battery drain goes back to normal when you flash an official rom because Official roms also have Extended rom , along with IPL, SPL , Radio and OS.
I suggested to flash only the empty extended rom, because that's the best way, being super fast (1-2 minutes) and you won't loose any of your data...and won't have to flash 2x times(the official rom and then the custom one) plus add your programs once again.
The extended rom should be either a simple nk.nbf(which you copy in the RUU and flash right away) or an *.nb(which you either convert to a nk.nbf or add it along with OS.nb into a OS+Extended Rom nk.nbf)
I have noticed that it changed my IPL & SPL versions. Do I need to change these again before going to WM6 again? I think I will go re-read the faq...
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The extended rom should be either a simple nk.nbf(which you copy in the RUU and flash right away) or an *.nb(which you either convert to a nk.nbf or add it along with OS.nb into a OS+Extended Rom nk.nbf)
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What do you mean by copying it into the RUU? Do I just put it into the folder where the RUU program exists? Or do I have to rebuild the RUU with only the nk.nbf file?
I flashed back to the release WM5 rom, then flashed the T-Mo 2.26 rom, then flashed XM6r3aLite again, and I have the feeling that the issue is still there (my battery was 100% maybe 2 hours ago, however it is down to 70% now). In the past no matter what I was doing I could never drain it that fast except maybe playing MP3s. The only thing that I have done is sync'ed with my companies' Exchange server and copy some files from my storage card to the main memory.
Again, thanks a lot,
Jason
sweet JESUS...
my point of view.
procedure:
- choose normal(i mean good) rom,
- flash it,
- discharge battery to zero(or just near to zero),
- plug it into charger,
- load to full
- make soft reset.
these stupid bs mah paranoia is useless.
turn it OFF and STOP looking!
if you flash rom @ 70%, you will get 100% after, but it is 70-x(flash time) %.
machine is fooled and only thing you can do is learn it again by full discharge/recharge procedure.
and before someone will say: bull**** - i never had batt problem after using that procedure(3 days is minimum).
p.s. software may be reason too, sometimes.
few people had mainboard issues too(battery was gone fast without reason) - if so, replace mainboard(i hope you not need this).
extrom deletions/broken extrom may lead to drain too(almost always).
try to turn beam off(some roms have it on),
try to turn "today timeout" off(some believe that it "may" be something with it) in /menustart/settings/today.
Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Im tired of charing it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
I can get 2 days out of my battery.
I let it drain to 1% and then stick it on charge over night. When i get up the battery will be at 100% and then 30 minutes later down to 90% but it settles down after that.
I do not have wifi and bluetooth on all the time, just when I need to.
sORRY DOUBLE POST................
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Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Iam tired of charging it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
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I don't understand people telling battery lost for 2 days..... even if we keep phone idle it will lose power in 24 hrs i believe....try like this try to use ROM with out manila & with manila once you will know the difference other than that there is some tips to save battery in Energy ROM thread in 3 rd 0r 4th post ..
4 days normal usage.
Manila2, GSM
15 minutes call, 6~10 text message, sync exchange, 30 minute ebook reading per day
If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
Processes and services often place a strain on the life of the battery; add to the mix a buggy service or application that further shortens battery life and one has an unusable device.
Another habit that can shorten Li-ON battery life is full discharges - near 0%. One of the members put out a thread a while back on research he/she had done on batteries - worth the read if you haven't already.
Cheers,
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If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
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I just had the same experience, cooked for the first time and my battery was better than it has ever been!
Since then I have flashed to RRE 21731 6.3 and it seems my battery has stayed the same (Brilliant, 2 Days no problem).
The only thing ive done differently is I have used the new UK Voda rom as my Stock Rom that i flash before flashing custom, and i believe this may have something to do with it...What, I don't Know.
I also believe changing the Radio After a flash can affect battery life, I always try to flash a new radio before a Custom rom.
I have wondered for some time wether the European Touch Pro is slightly different to the US Fuze in its hardware, Since most Cooked Roms are configured for the Fuze maybe that is what it is?
maybe we will find out..One Day
turn off 3G and you will get much better battery.
Get a Blackberry Bold. My phone has been on for 2 days, sent around 150 texts, got in 150, I'm at 85%
ukjock said:
I can get 2 days out of my battery.
I let it drain to 1% and then stick it on charge over night. When i get up the battery will be at 100% and then 30 minutes later down to 90% but it settles down after that.
I do not have wifi and bluetooth on all the time, just when I need to.
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That will ****-up your battery, you should never let it drain to 1%, just charge it when you have the time, preferably before it drains to about 20%.
I guess it all depends on the eye of the beholder, I come from the Diamond part of XDA, and we are lucky to get 24 hours on the Diam.
I was happpyyyyy with my new TP battery life -compared to Diam that is-
But ya, turning of 3g and being picky about processes and back light helps.
Greets to all.
Search the development and Hacking thread for Windows Long Life/save your gonads. Chainfire is developing a neat application to automatically switch from 3G when not needed. I tried an early version and it seemed to significantly increase my battery life.
Check my sig....it tells you how to deal with Li-ion batteries...
battery stuff on my site
Check out chapter 17. I cover this pretty thoroughly.
Archangel22 said:
Is there a tweak out there that stops the stupid battery from guzzling? Im tired of charing it constantly and I swear it takes hours and hours to charge it back to full power. The thing cant last longer than a day without loosing power I cant stand it. Whats making it use all that power? I thought maybe if I switch wireless it would help but I didnt notice a difference.
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An app that may help is Advanced Task manager, it has a widget to end all running processes/tasks which i tap before putting mine to sleep about 1000+ times a day it seems. go in and exclude ones you may want to exclude always and then its as simple as 1 click. as everyone else said, no gps,wifi,3g when not 100% necessary. also, get widget "toggle disply" from rounded labs and keep your screen completely dim (not like you can't see it...), being able to make it bright when you step outdoors. Also, toggle backlight app for root users keeps the pesky keyboard backlight off when you don't want it on (suggest making keyboard shortcut for quick toggle). last but not least because i'm sure theres plenty more, but yesterday i switched to cyanogen's newest stable ROM and it seems to be much more effective than any other i have tried in the means of saving battery life. had wifi on after a 98% charge for about an hour and a half (30mn usage) and it only went down to 91%... wow. "and that's all, i have to say, about tha-aat"- Forrest Gump
Firstly I don't think this is the right sub-forum for this question since it's not a specific ROM question.
Secondly, try nueDynamicClock, if you use the right settings, you'll extend your batt life by at least 1/2 a day if not more.
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If I build rom myself from the kitchen. It usually runs for 2-3 days.
However, in most cases when I try decent cooked ROM, for example, Energy - battery drains in about 5 hours. That's been the case with other cooked roms as well.
I suspect that some popular configuration change done by cooks causes battery to drain in certain environments. Would be nice to find out which change is that.
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It's really very simple. Flash an awesome rom, and the battery burns and burns. Flash a rom you hate, and the battery lasts forever. Don't over-think it.
hi guys.
i was eager to start up this discussion and am glad to find it here itself.
even am really finiky about battery.
tried alot of thing but cudnt find any spcl tweaks.
though i came across some registries from advanced config and other wise also but they seem to be more worse.
;IMPROVE BATTERY PERFORMANCE
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
when i use these tweaks the power consumption of my rom reached to 4.112 volts(as per power detect) which otherwise without these tweaks is 3.992 at startup.
more power consumption i guess means less battery i guess.
and even if its not still these tweaks as per my usage show bad results.
why so?
and arnt there spcl application which can detect the packages which might consume more battery, as i have over 50 packages in my rom and it'll hell to check which eats more.
Some tweaks I do
I have also found for me that disabling these things in advanced config also helps.
Performances
> File System cache: Disabled
> File System filter cache: Disabled
> Glyph Cache: 32kb (advised) I'm not sure if disabling this one is a good idea. I like having a little bit of glyph cache on my device.
Light senor
> Light sensor polling: Disabled.
*Note: If you want to still have light sensor on (this means the auto backlight feature) I would set the:
> Light sensor polling interval: 2000. This will make it poll every 2 seconds instead of every .2 seconds. I would even try setting it to 5000.
The backlight will make a huge difference on how long you battery will last. The brighter it is the more the battery needs to light up that screen. If you turn off the polling all together it will make the battery last longer.
Also running fancy UI apps will also deplete the battery more. Just common sense really as another poster alluded to earlier. The more things you have running and sucking up memory the more battery it will consume. If you disable TF3D or other apps such as this you will get your battery to last longer. Given that these devices are meant to have these types of programs on them you will have to weigh the options of how much you really want to "tone down" your devices to get the most out of your battery.
Also different radios will cause you battery to last longer. I suggest to everybody that they try different radios to see which ones last longer. Also people who live on the edge of 3G and EDGE area will cause the battery to drain faster as it constantly switches in and out of 3G coverage.
WMLongLife is a great app if you don't need 3G while you phone is just sitting in you pocket. It works great for me and when I want to use 3G I simply launch opera and the program will automatically enable 3G once again.
There are many things that you can do to improve your battery life. I encourage everybody to find what is best for them given what they use there device for and try and test things out. The best way to tell which works best for you is to simply try it out for yourself.
**NOTE** I also set all ROMs that I flash with a page pool of 0. I don't know if this has any real effect on battery life but it does seem to make my battery last a little bit longer. Not sure if this is a placebo affect though.
Hi all,
I have a few questions about the great ROMs posted on this forum:
1. does WM 6.5 consume more battery than WM 6.1?
2. what ROM do you find to be the best for battery life?
Thanks
well,possibly energy
looser9 said:
well,possibly energy
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As long as you remember this little tidbit:
• Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.
Then maybe you can get a little bit better battery life on the phone.
Nah.. my ROM is not best for battery. It's built for speed...
However you can run it and expect a day out of it. Like other users suggest, turn down the backlight, turn off 3G and don't sync too much (do not use data too much in general) and you'll have plenty of battery life.
p.s. Let's not forget the batteries in our phones are a couple years old too now, so you definitely wont get the same battery life you were getting when you bought the phone
Right mate, Sense uses a lot of battery so use the standard windows mobile home screen, Disable 3G unless our using the Internet same as Data Connection. I only lost 12% battery today and i was playing a bit of Boing as well installed a few apps and listened to music (only like 3-4 songs) So yeah .....
looser9 said:
well,possibly energy
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No offence, but concerning battery life, try anything BUT Energy ROMs. Even though NRG developer claims there are no reasons for it, these ROMs suck your battery dry in a very short time (a day or so). Especially CHT 2.0 versions, besides they are pretty and fast. Very poor battery life was the reason I had to switch from NRG to stock ROM only 2 days ago.
you mean stock htc rom or a stock-like wm 6.5 rom?
teddybalan said:
Hi all,
1. does WM 6.5 consume more battery than WM 6.1?
Thanks
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Well it depends also of your use voice and data use. Personnaly, I have 2 full working days with Exquisite 4.20 (Radio 1.17.25.09 & Ril 1.15.25.14), Active Sync push @15min, and mainly a mail and web usage (so it's mainly Opera 9.7 that lays in RAM). I consider this as pretty good, but if you have an extensive use of Music, or Video over voice and data, no miracles are possible whatever the rom you use.
As far as I remember, a stock HTC rom did not gave more stamina, but cooked stock 6.5 will do. Sense or TF3D are not neutral for battery at all.
NRGZ don't be so shy...
I use EnergyROM and it can go 2 whole days with good amount of usage before it needs a recharge. And 3-4 if I do not use so much, or just answer calls and send txts.
Anyways, great ROMS! And god thank you that you still update for us Raphael users!
tkima1 said:
NRGZ don't be so shy...
I use EnergyROM and it can go 2 whole days with good amount of usage before it needs a recharge. And 3-4 if I do not use so much, or just answer calls and send txts.
Anyways, great ROMS! And god thank you that you still update for us Raphael users!
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My experiences concern one but latest 21680 ROM. I hope in 21681 something was done with the poorest energy management I had ever seen. My phone couldn't last one whole day (sic!), so I got rid of that ROM and now battery lasts for 2-3 days, as always. Besides, I like NRG stuff very much and consider this a single stumble on a way to perfectness.