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Greetings
I think so after flashing my fone in the last month for more than 50 times.
I see my battery is going wierd.
1. when i take out my battery it forgets the date and time.
2. It is showing weird difference, like at one time it is 88 and after reseting it goes to 90%.
Anybody know wats the problem.
Thanks

Yup.. even me have the same issue like you..
i dont know if its because of the crossbow rom but someone told me that even in wm5..

It is listed somewhere that the WM6 has problem tracking your battery life due to the change of ROM. I recall the thread mentioned that you ought to run your battery as low as possible before recharing it to full again and that ought to fix the battery indicator problem.
BTW, while I'm here, I'm just wondering, what software do you use to check the battery drainage? e.g. how do you check if your plugins / background software is eating your battery like mad.
UPDATE2:
Hmm... I seems to have found it
Just incase someone looking for it (difficult to google for such common words) BatteryStatus

I use battery status

Have the same problem
I've the same problem, but It stared eith me when I was using WM5

join the club...

yuppers. these battery problems are not confined to certain ROMS
It's making my phone unusable. I've tried every WM6 ROM out and none makes a lick of difference. My phone dies in 2-4 hours. Battery readings are unstable in all plug-ins (BatteryStatus) and even the OS % meter. Tried the drain to 0% and fully charge thing before and after a hard reset and it did nothing. I've been using Pocket Battery Analyzer to graph and record the discharge and it's insane. 20%-30%/hr or more. It's sky-high when using the phone or GPRS. And it'll often white-screen/lockup when the battery gets low (but not 0), which it never used to do (nor should it).
This all started after flashing a million different WM6 ROMS. Has one of these ROMs buggered something it shouldn't have? I wish I could remember exactly when the problem surfaced (sometime in the past two weeks) maybe we all used a common ROM that screwed our phones. I think the closest ROMS I used around the time it started were mUn's, MB, and that NTS one on rapidshare (I read somewhere it was an updated MB).
Anyone who knows what IPL/SPL does wanna chime in? Can corruption to that memory code conceivably cause this? Maybe I'll try reflashing that just to check.
Other than that I just don't know. I pray the flashing hasn't killed some hardware component. How many writes are these ROM chips supposed to handle in their lifetime? I know things like SD and USB memory get 10,000's-100,000s writes before failure. Maybe these chips aren't designed for repeated re-flashing. Just a thought...
fluxist

Believe it or not, but certain versions of Battery Status (that same today plug in you are using to monitor battery level) are actually known to deplete the battry quite quickly.
Two nights ago, I had my phone going from 70% to 0 (dead) while I was sleeping... Clearly the phone was not!
Removed battery status: my phone goes back to its true self.
Now, I have to find out which version of Battery Status work, and which one don't... as it has not been always like this.
Regards,
--eluth

fluxist said:
It's making my phone unusable. I've tried every WM6 ROM out and none makes a lick of difference. My phone dies in 2-4 hours. Battery readings are unstable in all plug-ins (BatteryStatus) and even the OS % meter. Tried the drain to 0% and fully charge thing before and after a hard reset and it did nothing. I've been using Pocket Battery Analyzer to graph and record the discharge and it's insane. 20%-30%/hr or more. It's sky-high when using the phone or GPRS. And it'll often white-screen/lockup when the battery gets low (but not 0), which it never used to do (nor should it).
This all started after flashing a million different WM6 ROMS. Has one of these ROMs buggered something it shouldn't have? I wish I could remember exactly when the problem surfaced (sometime in the past two weeks) maybe we all used a common ROM that screwed our phones. I think the closest ROMS I used around the time it started were mUn's, MB, and that NTS one on rapidshare (I read somewhere it was an updated MB).
Anyone who knows what IPL/SPL does wanna chime in? Can corruption to that memory code conceivably cause this? Maybe I'll try reflashing that just to check.
Other than that I just don't know. I pray the flashing hasn't killed some hardware component. How many writes are these ROM chips supposed to handle in their lifetime? I know things like SD and USB memory get 10,000's-100,000s writes before failure. Maybe these chips aren't designed for repeated re-flashing. Just a thought...
fluxist
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May your problem come from hardware ? I mean it's not impossible...if you have an imperfect contact, that will also deplete your battery fast. What are temperature readings with batterystatus ?...do you feel your phone is warm ?

BatteryStatus
Yeah, I've read tons of posts suggesting batterystatus may be draining batteries but this condition persists even when newly flashed without installing batterystatus.
And regarding a short in the hardware, yeah thats surely possible. Ive dropped my phone enough times. But with all the hullabaloo in this forum about battery drain issues i'm more inclined to believe it's something else. And I only got this phone in June. I should hope these batteries last longer than 9 months before becoming unusable.
I just replaced the IPL/SPL using the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM. I'm not hopeful.
fluxist

fluxist said:
Yeah, I've read tons of posts suggesting batterystatus may be draining batteries but this condition persists even when newly flashed without installing batterystatus.
And regarding a short in the hardware, yeah thats surely possible. Ive dropped my phone enough times. But with all the hullabaloo in this forum about battery drain issues i'm more inclined to believe it's something else. And I only got this phone in June. I should hope these batteries last longer than 9 months before becoming unusable.
I just replaced the IPL/SPL using the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM. I'm not hopeful.
fluxist
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do you have battery drain with any rom you use ? try orwell or ..how about a wm5 ... ? or try another battery

I have the same problem!
When i have put Orwell ROm everything was ok!
Then installed mUn rom and also everything was ok!
Both of them could use Omapscaler without any problem (overclock/underclock)
Then i tried the Xplore 1.0 which included the BatteryStatus.
After the BatteryStatus the Wizard changed!
The battery drain was big and when removed the BS and ckeck with Omapscaler the CPU is always 100%.
Then i put again the Mun but the same CPU 100% every time with OmapScaler nad battery drain.
Then i put the NBD ROM and the same with above.
Now using Xplore 1.1 and the problem remain.
My concern is that something changed!

I've noticed the time and date screw up when I'm taking the battery out as well, but other than that my phone acts pretty normal. no huge battery drain. I did not monitor it closely, but a couple days ago I installed Battery Status beta 3, and it seemed to me that the battery drains a litttle faster than previously, but can't tell for sure, as I had some spare time and I used pocket MS reader a lot.

No luck
Well I replaced the IPL/SPL (not that I really thought that that was the problem, but i'm trying to eliminate variables one by one).
And it did............... absolutely nothing. The power problems remain.
I have had BatteryStatusExt installed and maybe it is in fact the culprit (in which case they better get a good lawyer), but by what mechanism could any software cause a condition that persists through ROM flashes? Any ideas?
I would totally think my battery was at fault and buy a new one if this wasn't happening to others at the same time. These battery problem posts have only surfaced in the past few weeks, and at least in this thread, all the symptoms are the same. (That and cell batteries are expensive as hell and they don't allow returns)
So what the hell is going on here? I'm on Xplore now and the problem still remains. Next up I'll try going back to a WM5. However, other posters have reported the problem persists in WM5 as well.
I think I might try and analyze BatteryStatus. Perhaps the author employed some non-standard methods for accessing the battery.
Come to think of it, I used the original BatteryStatus (the one that had no overclocking capabilities) for ages back when everything was fine. Maybe the overclocking method the new version uses is leaving the OMAP chip in an unstable configuration? Really I'm appealing to the experts here. I'll try to look into it myself but more eyes are always better at finding bugs.
OK. Off to find the spec sheet for that chip...
fluxist

I'm also curious about the draining when flashing back to WM5. I'm considering going back, but i would like to read some experiences.
The draining is killing me. I'm on X-Plore and it gets worse every day.
I'm willing to pay for a good solution (;

same here
fluxist said:
It's making my phone unusable. I've tried every WM6 ROM out and none makes a lick of difference. My phone dies in 2-4 hours. Battery readings are unstable in all plug-ins (BatteryStatus) and even the OS % meter. Tried the drain to 0% and fully charge thing before and after a hard reset and it did nothing. I've been using Pocket Battery Analyzer to graph and record the discharge and it's insane. 20%-30%/hr or more. It's sky-high when using the phone or GPRS. And it'll often white-screen/lockup when the battery gets low (but not 0), which it never used to do (nor should it).
This all started after flashing a million different WM6 ROMS. Has one of these ROMs buggered something it shouldn't have? I wish I could remember exactly when the problem surfaced (sometime in the past two weeks) maybe we all used a common ROM that screwed our phones. I think the closest ROMS I used around the time it started were mUn's, MB, and that NTS one on rapidshare (I read somewhere it was an updated MB).
Anyone who knows what IPL/SPL does wanna chime in? Can corruption to that memory code conceivably cause this? Maybe I'll try reflashing that just to check.
Other than that I just don't know. I pray the flashing hasn't killed some hardware component. How many writes are these ROM chips supposed to handle in their lifetime? I know things like SD and USB memory get 10,000's-100,000s writes before failure. Maybe these chips aren't designed for repeated re-flashing. Just a thought...
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My phone also dies in a few hours. I'd charge it to 100% and see it goes down 1% every minute or so. After just a call or two it'd restart itself due to low battery. BS says it's using 200+ mA which seems high after reading others at low double digits. This had never happened before I upgraded to WM6. I've tried MBE and Faria's Real Thing and both are the same. I know the battery has overcharge protection. Could BS somehow messed up the battery with its probing?

hi,
i flashed to Faria and my Battery lost from 100 to 10 % during the last 12h.
i installed BatteryStatus and SPB Shell.
Cpuscaler at 156 mhz and it shows +198mA ...
Wat is wrong ?

Yeah from what it seems the BS leaves something behind or puts the CPU or battery in such a state that it, get drained faster I noticed that also. I dont think its the ROMs them selfs I think its the BS. Also we have to remmber that BS was not designed for the wizard, so the person that is developing it is not using the same hardware as we are....... THis is really sad I have 2 batteries and both basicly now do the same thing. I asked that X-Plore would not include BS in 1.1, and thats what I have running on my wizard now. The battery is not as crazy as other people, but still from 8am to 5 and 52% gone with about 13 calls and 3-4 email thru direct push and some browsing. SO I dont know, but it is sad hopefully T-Mo will release a new phone with in this month and I will upgrade

Battery issues
I'm not really having too much problem with my battery so far. I'm running battery status as well. However, I'm pretty moderate with my overclocking. I remember reading when omapclock first came out that some people would find that after a few weeks of overclocking, their wizards would start draining the battery very rapidly, even after cutting back the clock again. I wonder if heavy overclocking can sometimes damage some of the electronics in the wizard, causing persistent power loss?
Hope you guys get things back to normal..
Regards,

I have installed Xplore 1.1 ....without BS.... still huge draining.
40% in 4 houres. Great rom, but too fast out of power for me.
I'm going back to WM5....let you know if the draining consists....

WM6 KILLS the Battery... Help!!

I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.

I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...

IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.

mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new

I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody

Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards

Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.

Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.

same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused

Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here

I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!

My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6

astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!

You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.

IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents

CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less

The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.

astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.

Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%

astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE

Battery life is horrible!

I'm currently running the XM6r3 ROM, and my battery life is less than half of what it was with WM5. Anyone else notice this? I'm thinking it might be related to the weather panel app.

First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...

I'm experiencing the same issues...with only 2 or 3 days of the iphone theme, with Slide2Unlock and WisBar, my battery barely makes it 18 hours.
I'm going to try the suggestion of flashing it back to original and them just the latest WM6 (screw the iphone stuff).

I do take into effect that I use it more than I did before. I did not have weather panel with wm5, and I also use battery status. I only recently started overclocking it. I also use direct push with our exchange server.
I flashed it with the T-Mobile rom before upgrading. The radio is 2.25.11.
I guess it just comes with the territory I'm going to have get in the habit of charging it more often, because I like it WAY more than WM5.

mfrazzz said:
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
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Very hypothetical and analytical description of the Battery consumption problem being faced,cudn't be explained more elaborately .
Stock wm5 Roms never had any such applications as new wm6 custom Roms offer.
secondly over clocking will definitely effect the battery power.

I noticed too. Probably the file connmrg.exe is taking all the CPU power, that's why the battery's life is so worse. Batterystatus gives a constantly 100% CPU usage display...

IF you see battery status showing 100% cpu usage you have some other issue. Mine is only at 100% when I start an app or doing heavy work on it. Otherwise it idles back under 195Mhz most of the time with CPUscalar for me. Also depends on what ROM you are running and what apps you have added.

No Problem with battery
I have been using this rom since it was released and have had no problems at all with the battery life.

Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM? My 8125 battery was fine on old wm6 ROM, but after I installed XM6r3 (and yes, I did install t-mobile os before to clean it), my battery level goes through the floor.
I managed to charge it to over 50% and installed stock cingular rom, and with no extra applications installed, just the virgin cingular software, BT/wifi not enabled, just gsm radio I still see a drop of few % a minute! So basically, my phone is effectively cannot be detached from charger or my battery will drain very fast and loose ability to start os and begin charging again in the phone.
I can see (using wizard service tool) some cingular customization stuff on the hidden extended rom, does this mean extended rom is not a cause of this? Should I use format ROM tool in WST? (sorry for probably stupid questions)
Is there any way to check that it is indeed the battery being shot and not some obscure software issue? I find it hard to believe that good battery can go bad exactly at the same time as OS upgrade, I am hoping I am missing some obvious software fix

I believe its something else because my girlfriend calls me every morning and I take it out of the charger. I talk to her for a couple minutes 5 minutes tops and I hang up I look at batterystatus and it says 79% left tops. This is OD crazy I don't know if its the rom or the battery. I don't feel like paying 40 bux for a battery and same thing happens. I am currently installing a new rom I am gonna try this for acouple days and see what happens. I only noticed it for one rom but that rom I used for two to three weeks straight I didn't notice with the other roms because I never kept them for more then a day.

Strange enough (Battery life)
Strange enough before reading this post I thought that my phone's battery is dying. But know I can say that its definitely this XM6r3 ROM has some problem. To be precise there is definitely some application that eats the battery. As sometime my battery works fine and other time it just drain. If anyone can work on what application is eating the battery would be appreciated.
Rest the ROM is great.
Harwant

Battery Life and Hard SPL

Hi all:
i've been testing almost all day to get an answer about the battery drainage on hard SPLs.
Ok here is what i found.
Ofcourse like said before the radio roms do have an effect on battery life according to the location you are in depending on countries.
anyhow, i was very curious on why when i had olipof's first SPL and using Dutty's ROM i had 48 hours of non stop usage of my phone without charging and yet when i upgraded my SPL the batterylife went horrible.
i used several ROMS and almost all Radios to see the effect.
now here is what i found, am not an expert but i know there is something wrong here.
my last status before test was SPL 3.29 jockey and Rom Hyperdragon 6/1/2009
using battery test tool:
SPL 3.56
on 1st call exactly 1 minute ,battery level decreased from 100% to 95%
Charged phone
SPL 3.29
on 1st call exactly 1:34 minute ,battery level decreased from 100% to 96%
Charged phone
SPL 3.28
on 1st call exactly 1:40 minute ,battery level decreased from 100% to 97%
Charged phone
SPL 3.07
on 1st call exactly 5:23 minutes , battery level decreased from 100% to only 98%
i didn't try olipof's first spl though, but i think something is wrong the older the SPL the longer the battery life.
need someone who is an expert to test this as i know my battery is functioning well, i had it since 15/5/2008 and also bought a new one yesterday and had same battery drainage while using SPL 3.29
guys i think this needs to be looked into, as i used the same Radio and same ROM in each test here, and i know at some point Radio 1.65.24.36 did give me wonderfull results back when i first unlocked my phone last may, and used same radio today aswell.
Regards,
ahassouna, hope this is benefitial to someone

Im no expert either but I have been going through the same thing and trying to figure it out, I had TIR V8.1k rom using hard spl 3.28 and the battery was just fantastic, I could go 2 days (normal use) with out charging my phone, now im using ultimate v15 rom and by the time i get to work my battery is at 75% with minimal calling. I just dont get it, if anyone can help it will be appreciated

even i would like to see if there is any difference.

jweather said:
Im no expert either but I have been going through the same thing and trying to figure it out, I had TIR V8.1k rom using hard spl 3.28 and the battery was just fantastic, I could go 2 days (normal use) with out charging my phone, now im using ultimate v15 rom and by the time i get to work my battery is at 75% with minimal calling. I just dont get it, if anyone can help it will be appreciated
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I'm hardly the expert on this, but I tend to get better results when I mate ATT radio's with spl 3.56 or HTC radio's with spl 3.29. And I usually switch out radio/spl depending on the OS + Build the chef is using. There are some exceptions to this I'm sure but I generally always find a combination where I can get an cool days use out of my phone (7AM-~Midnight).
For example when I was running NATF's ATT ROM, I was using 3.56 w/ 1.65.20.29 radio and I could easily go 2 days, switch radio and that usage drops to what I mentioned earlier at best. And the same results if I changed spl, so I was left to conclude this has some bearing on the drain, OS Build + SPL + Radio. Currently I am running ultimate v15 ROM w/ spl 3.29 but with my caveat radio 1.59.44.02 Polaris radio and I get my normal (7AM-midnight) usage which is best for me in Atlanta.

any further tests done by anyone on this?

I just upgraded my rom to Daveshaw 3.34 and down go my batteries..not sure how it affect it. My battery is new and still after upgrading it went 100 to 0 fast.

battery life?

i just got a Fuze and I love everything about it except one thing...battery life. I have been looking a round and alot of people are saying that flashing a new radio can almost double the life. Im getting about 7 hours out of it right now and im not at my desk that often to charge it. my question is, can I flash a new radio and keep the stock rom? i have no complaints about the Rom its self im just looking for better battery life and im pretty new to the flashing so i would rather keep it to a minimum.

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i just got a Fuze and I love everything about it except one thing...battery life. I have been looking a round and alot of people are saying that flashing a new radio can almost double the life. Im getting about 7 hours out of it right now and im not at my desk that often to charge it. my question is, can I flash a new radio and keep the stock rom? i have no complaints about the Rom its self im just looking for better battery life and im pretty new to the flashing so i would rather keep it to a minimum.
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There are a few things you can do.....
Download Advance Config, and turn on all the battery options in there.
If you don't use 3G, turn it on EDGE.
To flash a new radio while staying on the stock rom, you must have Hard-SPL, it is recommended that you have the matching rilphone.dll installed too.

ill look into the advanced config, also one lats question. How can you get background images on all the tabs, i found a cab to do it but i guess it was for the diamond and it keeps screwing up my clock on the home tab.

The best way to improve battery life what I found is to increase the poll interval of the battery. This means that your phone isn't checking the battery status as before.
Grab a reg editor (phm regedit or total commander will do) and go to HKEY_LOCAL _MACHINE\drivers\builtin\battery and create a dword value named PollInterval with the value 20000. This means the phone will only check the battery every 20 seconds instead of constantly.
Good luck.

I have a Fuze, and the battery life is just fine for me running the leaked AT&T rom. Had the phone since it came out, no problems, i get a full day out of it easily, only charging it when i need to before working out
The biggest thing to me that almost doubled my battery life though, is reducing the email checking interval. When i had set my gmail account to check for emails every 10 minutes, i was getting less than a day.
I have it set to check every 5 hours, and download my RSS feeds (40 feeds) every 9 hours.
Battery life is way better than what i had for my Cingular 8525 (TYTN).
Another suggestion - keep the phone from getting too warm, like in your pocket or in a hot car. Heat speeds up the chemical reaction in your battery and reduces battery life.
Let me know if that helps!

well I took a leap and flashed the energyseries 2 ROM and the newest Raphael radio and so far seems like a good combo,I'm not draining 15% a hour anymore.