Froyo fully functional only on Vogue? - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hey everybody
I got a Touch Diamond and i've been running xdandroid 2.1 for a while (booting manually from winmo). I've recently seen a news post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310) about a fully working froyo on HTC Vogue. As far as i can see, it's a windows mobile device - older and less capable than the Touch Diamond (please correct me if i'm wrong, which i probably am) - still it seems to be working better with froyo than my diamond is with 2.1? (i read that both gps AND camera is working on vogue+froyo).
Did i miss something, or what is up with that?
What i'm trying to say is, how is it that froyo is not fully working on other devices? Is it because the community around Vogue is bigger/better than around Diamond and they spend more time making it work, or is the Vogue somehow magically more prepared for Froyo? The reason i didn't post this in the Diamond forum is, i wonder - generally - how this can be?

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Touch HD or Omnia2

Hay guys,
I am getting a new PDA, I have tytn now and it has served me good.
Could you give me your look on this two models, I am thinking about Samsung, since it has much better specs and display, but I got used to touchflo 3D interface a lot...
Is it possible to put it on Omnia?
Your answer will be appreciated and will help me decide what to buy.
Thanks!
There is one added value for choosing HD
The sup`port of this fantastic site!!
Just because of that I´ll choose HD even if omnia has better specs...
Yes, that is bothering me too...
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
You could use TouchFlo 3D on your Omnia 2 if its WVGA. However as mentioned above the support provided by this site significantly exceeds that of any site that supports the Omnia. To be completely honest, if you havent bought your device yet you should consider the Touch Diamond II. The reasoning behind this is i read an article somewhere mentioning that devices without a windows button will not get an official WM6.5 ROM or something stupid like that (Correct me if im wrong).
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
gauravdc said:
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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A forum specialized like this for that device!!!
Hmm, the Touch HD vs Omnia II i8000.
Well, lets face it, this is a question of 'XDA support' or 'No XDA support'. Specs-wise, the i8000 has the Touch HD crushed completely (as have been the case with all new Samsung models; HTC hasn't updated their specs in forever).
Personally, if you ask me for a choice between those two models, I would go with the i8000. The main reason I love XDA support is that it makes the interface looks better and it makes the software faster, but from what I see, the i8000 is already plenty fast and it looks very, very good. Furthermore, the i8000 has support forums too (though not on the level of XDA), so any deficiency may be corrected by its own forums anyway.
The idea of choosing a WM device based on software seems very silly to me. One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D), so transition between WM devices based on software is very simple. If anything, the i8000 should be more appealing software-wise as Samsung put a lot of amazing software on it that has not been ported to other devices yet.
Always buy for the better specs and design. Never buy for the software support. Buy for the software that is already provided.
Any extras can be found on other fan sites and other non-htc developers. Therefore the Omnia 2 is a much better choice.
Besides there are plenty of software that are created that supports non-htc devices, and there are also software that are created specifically for non-htc devices.
Furthermore alot of the technical problems are Windows Mobile based and not always HTC based.
The only 2 reasons to get HTC devices is 1) if you prefer the design and the specs of HTC and 2) if you want to flash your ROM.
HTC devices are easily flashed to a different ROM, but hey man not everyone uses ROMs... I don't ever use ROM's...
Therefore Omnia 2 is a perfect choice if you don't flash your ROM...and point number 1 shows that HTC Touch HD is outdated....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
poetryrocksalot said:
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
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undoubtedly, omnia II
gauravdc said:
what more could anyone possibly want?
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a zooming ability on the video camera (while filming)
also, can it play divx/xvid movies like the HD can with coreplayer?
i download movies and dont have to re-encode them, just drag, drop, play. (...generally, unless there was some esoteric encoding used)
mark
I have the same dilemma. I am about to replace my Sony Ericsson W960i with a proper PDA and I am taking into account both, Touch HD and Omnia II.
Similarly I would like to have a Touch Flo 3d interface on my device and therefore I was keener on HTC Touch HD at first. However since it is possible to get a Touch Flo 3d onto all WinMo devices (as I deduced from 8525Smart's post)
8525Smart said:
One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D)
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I rather buy Omnia.
And here it comes to questions:
1. Are my assumptions concerning getting Touch Flo 3d onto Omnia correct?
2. Could anyone explain to me this ->
poetryrocksalot said:
....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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What does it mean to"flash your ROM" and how is it useful? Isn't it simply upgrading/updating the ROM?
I'd be grateful if you could help
well livegod guess what ! omnia2 has zooming while taking videos with its awesom camera
and the touch player can support almost 99% of all my downloaded and converted movies
as for the TF3D .. i love the new one and i cant seem to find it anywhere to be installed on my omnia2
i hate the widgets... makes the phone looks like a toy so i am using spbmobile shell + pointui
i'am from germany and I have the same problem.....
But here I can buy the Omnia in a few month....:-(
But what is whith the HTC LEO????????
Touchwiz 2.0 quite simply covers up WM 6.1 SO thoroughly on the Omnia II, it's almost like you're not using a Windows phone. The Omnia II is definitely the better pick unless you REALLY want ROMs to flash. Then wait for the Whitestone or Firestone or whatever HTC have next.
omnia camera is far better than the HD2
especially the video recording
the HD2 dont have a chance
but i dont care about the video recording so i will get the HD2
HD2, wins every time. You can flash what ever you want (when hspl comes out!), why would you ever want an omnia?
Hands down the HD2 (Leo). PPC of the year so far!
Samsung Omnia 2 place...
I'm a Forum XDA user for a long time.
It helped me a lot with my old HTC Wizard.
I was quite worried about buying an Omnia2 and losing the Forum support. But HTC HD cannot win O2 in SPECS.
About support... boys I have to admit.
For Omnia2 (that is not a HTC device) the best software and tweaks and amazing ROMs can be found on MODACO (sorry boys, but I have to say).
If you own an HTC device don't even consider getting there. The best place is here!!!
Concerning the TouchFlo3D, there are many versions available on MODACO. There's even a HTC HD2 like ROM with Sense 2.5
Thanks!

HTC Fuze/Touch Pro Hero Build

HI,
I was Just wondering has there been a Hero build for The Tp or fuze? Because our little brother phone the vogue has already had a version out and where like a lot better than them, so i though maybe we already have one or we already have people making one for our device and if so can i get a link so i can help them out????
here is the vogue version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4264377&posted=1#post4264377
Long live Touch Pro
The Hero runs Android Cupcake, right? Unfortunately, I don't think that's been worked on yet.
Currently, the Touch Pro just has a build of regular Android.
8525Smart said:
The Hero runs Android Cupcake, right? Unfortunately, I don't think that's been worked on yet.
Currently, the Touch Pro just has a build of regular Android.
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ya, and my fuze doesnt r un that in good time
actually i just got it going, all i had to do was clean my mem card

how "android 2.0-friendly" are current HTC android phones?

Hello guys,
You 've made a great forum here, and i must admit you're all doing amazing work. I have a question that made me crawl out of my lurking cave.
I was thinking about buying a HTC Magic/Saphire phone. Maybe getting involved with some android development. Anyway, i was wondering how compatible the phones are with the upcoming android 2.0. I know multitouch will be support (and already is in Hero,) but does that mean that i will be able to upgrade to android 2.0 and enjoy multitouch in Magic? I know multitouch capabilities are already enabled through some roms.
Also, will i expierence slower speeds with coming versions of android? [i'm thinking the way a computer made with xp in mind, behaves when you install Vista on it].
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but i haven't found a clear answer yet
As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.
Paul, thanks for your answer
That's what i thought at first, and i was gonna wait for hero to come out in Greece, but i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558344&highlight=multitouch
and this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4510792&postcount=26
so it seems it works with custom roms. Any ideas about the speed factor and/or the compatibility of the phones with future android versions?
TheBrit said:
As far as MultiTouch is concerned...my understanding is that it will only work with capicitive touch screens. The Hero's screen is capacitive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I am aware the G1(Dream) and Magic have risistive screens.
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Both the G1(Dream) and magic have capacitive screens. All Android phones on the market at this time have capacitive screens
Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.
ivanmmj2 said:
Android 2.0 isn't being developed yet. 1.6 is though (codenamed donut.)
Cyanogen, over in the dream forum has already ported and IMPROVED 1.6 into the G1's.
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That is not true either. 2.0 is rumored to be what is shipping on the upcoming Motorola Shules. The code name for 2.0 is eclair.
so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]
cynop said:
so, to get back to my original question, when Shules launches, will android 2.0 be portable to 1.6 phones like magic? i read that it won't be portable to G1 [or, to be more accurate, that they wont release an official update for it]
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well the issue for the G1 was not have enough memory to "store" the update, but one of the lead developers said that the quote was taken in the wrong way. As far as I know, if you flash it yourself it should fit and work fine in the future. It is just that having the OS on there and then trying to do an Over the Air update would cause issues due to lack of space.
Alittle off the topic but, here's a spec chart of all the android phones on the market. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/10/android-battle-cliq-edition/

Possibility of ROM porting SE->HTC

OK, now, I've searched the forum, but can't find the exact answer to my question. I have flashed multiple ROMs for my HTC Touch Pro2, but I was wondering. If the Manila leaks and tweaks for the HTC HD2 can be used for the TP2, would it also be possible to, for a say, port the Sony Ericsson X2's ROM to the TP2? Because Manila is tweaked more and more, but I would like to experience what the X2 feel on a TP2 would be like. I'm thinking WM to WM should be possible, but have no idea of the amount of work involved. I'm also curious for the speed it will or won't have on my device.
I know there's some .cab to get the panels item working a bit, but I'm looking for 'everything'..
Maybe the X2 is the wrong example, because the hardspl isn't fixed yet, but the packages are, right? Else: take the X1 for example.
Thanks in advance for any answers!

Froyo port for Omnia i8000 at all?

Now...I've seen ports for almost every possible HTC device out there that are less powerfull tan omnia i8000...Why arent there any ports for omnia i8000...I tried the HTC HD2 port of Froyo with haret.exe...and i cant get it to work...maybe i'm doing something wrong or it maybe because it is a port for yet another HTC device...
Are there any at all?
It's been like a month..and i wanna ask that again..so bump...HD2 gets everything...
Well, it seems it's only you and me. Me and you hope this device able to run Froyo at least. Any other? I think it's difficult pherahaps because drivers for i.e. Galaxy S hardware aren't good for i8000 hardware. Pherhaps (but I don't know really) HTC deserves less differences between its devices. I can say only I am very very sad.
I already got Galaxy Tab, but it's so painful to see i8000 at the terminus.
Android 2.1 on Omnia 2 progress
Hey guys, don't miss me out...I'm an Omnia i8000 user too...i heard that the development of Android 2.1 on our Omnia are still under going...so probably more patience in order to get a functional Android on our phone. (It won't be long I think as currently they already received news back from Samsung.)
By the way, below is some link which shows the progress of Android development.(No fake videos and links, all are uploaded from the members of Omnia2droid).
Seriously, just check 'em out and you will know that our Omnia 2 are still not dead yet and somebody out there are currently putting their effort in porting Android to Omnia i8000.
But for the Android Froyo, I think the one that they currently developing is Android 2.1 Eclair, but they claimed that they will port to Android Froyo as soon as the Android 2.1 was fully working on our Omnia 2.
To check out the progress,
Omnia2Droid homepage: http://code.google.com/p/omnia2droid/
Almar Twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/INB2ENSECURITY
Latest MoDaCo thread "Android on Omnia 2": http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/322429/android-on-omnia-ii-i8000/
Youtube links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufrPC8T2Dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZGdYJn73aM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQMfaMbHWgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNREXsyOzC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7GvZGedWpQ
FOR ANDROID ON i8000, CHECK THIS OUT.

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