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T-mobile ROM or HTC ROM plus other questions!

Hi all i have been using pda phones for a long time and have followed this website for quite a while...
I have an obsession for these kind of phones...so today i upgraded my phone from vario to the new vario 3.
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio (not to good with the terminology).
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG or any other versions of it and whether i would be better off using the original htc one...i wasnt really fond of the rom for the vario.
also i havent flashed a phone in a long long time (last time was for my mda compact which was nearly 2/3 years ago!)..so i wanted to ask is there anything i should know? i have been reading the threads and i wanted to know which version of the hard spl should i use because there are several different stickies with difference hard spl
Can you update the radio serparatly from the rom? or can you do them both at the same time? and also which radio and rom would you recommend?
and also where can i learn to understand what exactly rom/radio/ext rom are exactly..i have a respectable idea of what they are but jus wanna make sure i know what im doing before i do it..
and also what does dumping a rom do?
thanks for your help
sorry if these questions have already been asked!

slachanah said:
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio
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Why?
slachanah said:
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG
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I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.

Mr.Clark said:
Why?
I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
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Well i have read one of the threads that the htc rom does leave u more space and does run slightly quicker..
Mr.Clark said:
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.
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Any particular tweaks that you would recommend here or the modaco website?
was trying to get rid of some of the bloatware that i didnt want that t-mobile provides..but i will take ur advice and not rush into it..will wait for a month or two before i start prying around...
plus the skin/today/theme/front page (dont know what it is but it surely has to be one of those) of the htc rom and orange rom looks cool!
do you know where i can get that from?
i.e. these ones htc
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2007/08/10/HTC-P4550-Kaiser-Smartphone/p3)
and orange (where it says software)
(http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/07/htc_tytn_ii_review)
ps thanks for ur help and advice
im at work so it wont let me check the modaco website...but i will check it out when i get home

The T-Mobile ROM is about as near to the HTC one as an operator ROM is ever likely to get. The only piece of un-needed bloat was a trial version of F-Prot Antivirus; which takes a few seconds to uninstall. Even de-branding it is a pretty short job, as for once they haven't splashed pink everywhere.

The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
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ripnetuk said:
The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
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cheers for ur advise u guys
any tweaks in particular u would recommend i have seen the scha'p's advanced configuration tool im gonna use that...anything else?

The first tweak I'd recommend is Paul's Debrand that I mentioned in my previous post. Gets rid of a lot of the pink and switches back to nice Windows colours.
The Trusted Mobiles picture looks like it's using the Windows Default theme.
If you tap Start, Settings, Today then Windows Default, hit OK and return to the Today screen. Should look pretty similar.
Go back to that page again and tap the Items tab at the bottom. The giant widget with the clock is the HTC Home plugin. All I've got on my Today screen are that (modified) and the Calendar.
To modify the HTC Home plugin, head over to http://www.pocketemu.com/hhc-info.html and download the HTC Home Customizer. This is a fantastic app. Poke around the site, find the themes you want, then download, install and configure it.
The other biggie you'll want is the Kaiser Tweak. Have a read through that thread, but it's fairly self explanatory once you run it.
That should give you a start, anyway. Enjoy!

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1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
jgdorado;1873942]I'm recieving a TYTN II tomarrow locked to ATT. I'm using t-mobile here in Florida. I want to completely eliminate any reference to ATT and run whatever rom's would provide the best of the best. So please entertain my questions as this may quite help many others who are trying to get the big pcture........
1) can I use Win2000Pro(sp4+) for these procedures
2) Should I 1st use Kaiser Super CID unlocker, or CID unlocker 1st?
3) then do I run the HardSPL v1
4) Then it appears that I should run this sim-unlocker
5) Then it appears that I need to load some form of other ROM i.e. Schwab cooked, Dutty V.4RTM or what do you folks suggest is best?
I assume WM6 remains untouched??? and the other operations like GPS, WiFi, etc??
Please treat the above as questions. I'm seeking your advice
Thanks for de-weeding my brain here
JG
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I am simply soliciting those who have a wonderfully working 8925/tilt/kaiser/tytn etc tell me what you're running and in what order does the s/w get installed for best operation
Your response is and will be greatly appreciated by all of us who are trying hard to get the bigger picture. I know it's your opinion (goes without saying) but your opinion matters and your experience with a fully functional kaiser gives us a place to start
THANK YOU -JG

jgdorado said:
1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
jgdorado said:
I'm recieving a TYTN II tomarrow locked to ATT. I'm using t-mobile here in Florida. I want to completely eliminate any reference to ATT and run whatever rom's would provide the best of the best. So please entertain my questions as this may quite help many others who are trying to get the big pcture........
1) can I use Win2000Pro(sp4+) for these procedures
2) Should I 1st use Kaiser Super CID unlocker, or CID unlocker 1st?
3) then do I run the HardSPL v1
4) Then it appears that I should run this sim-unlocker
5) Then it appears that I need to load some form of other ROM i.e. Schwab cooked, Dutty V.4RTM or what do you folks suggest is best?
I assume WM6 remains untouched??? and the other operations like GPS, WiFi, etc??
Please treat the above as questions. I'm seeking your advice
Thanks for de-weeding my brain here
JG
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I am simply soliciting those who have a wonderfully working 8925/tilt/kaiser/tytn etc tell me what you're running and in what order does the s/w get installed for best operation
Your response is and will be greatly appreciated by all of us who are trying hard to get the bigger picture. I know it's your opinion (goes without saying) but your opinion matters and your experience with a fully functional kaiser gives us a place to start
THANK YOU -JG
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1. I really have no clue.
2-5. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895 and checkout other articles here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

jgdorado said:
1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
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You are getting no response because the other members are being nice, and not to flame at you. Your answers are the first 8 stickies in the Kaiser Upgrade forum.

Fellow Floridian here. Hopefully you're a Gator fan. Consider this your freebie .
Flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679. You'll then be CID unlocked and have the ability to flash another ROM. If you have any issues, start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039 This is the SIM unlocker that everyone has used. I have not used it because mine could be unlocked via AT&T.
Then read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895, the wiki and the stickies before flashing. Remember, you can brick your phone if you are not sure of what you are doing. Take a day or two to read as much as possible. That being said, the chefs have made it super easy.
As for ROMs, they truly are opinion. Everyone has their own needs. I like clean ROMs and don't use things like cubes. Currently using Q-Mobile 1.2. Just flashed from Dutty's V2 medium. Loved them both. Also really liked Alex's and Custel's. Even tried Jack's for a while and liked it. The differences are often minute and sometimes even just perception about speed and performance. Someone recently did a performance review of a bunch of ROMs - there's an excel file around here somewhere. I have spent a couple of months trying to find my ideal and may never (as fast as great new ROMs come out here.) It's an addiction. Go ahead - take your first hit.

Again thanks for your answers.
I get the fact that I need to CID and Sim unlock the phone 1st. What I'm not quite getting are the different ROM's. I must assume the phone has one for its out-of-box operation. So when I flash a new rom does it overwrite the old one or does the old need to be unloaded (saved somewhere??). Does the WM6 remain untouched? How about the other features of the phone like GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc? Are they part of the rom or hardware withing the circuitry
After all the reading (2 weeks now) these items remain unclear to me. Thanks for not flaming at me, but if in the midst an answer is unveiled....I have thick skin
I feel like I'm getting somewhere and this thread will help others too.

jgdorado said:
Again thanks for your answers.
I get the fact that I need to CID and Sim unlock the phone 1st. What I'm not quite getting are the different ROM's. I must assume the phone has one for its out-of-box operation. So when I flash a new rom does it overwrite the old one or does the old need to be unloaded (saved somewhere??). Does the WM6 remain untouched? How about the other features of the phone like GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc? Are they part of the rom or hardware withing the circuitry
After all the reading (2 weeks now) these items remain unclear to me. Thanks for not flaming at me, but if in the midst an answer is unveiled....I have thick skin
I feel like I'm getting somewhere and this thread will help others too.
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Well, flashing a ROM means to replace the default operating system with a modified one, so, the answer is yes to your question whether or not WM6 is touched. No matter what ROM you flash, you will have GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc. Think of it this way: You will still have your CD-ROM drive, your ethernet card, etc. if you reinstall Windows or upgrade to another version.

Think of a ROM as a full hard drive image. On your laptop you have Windows XP, Office and a bunch of other programs. But you like your buddy's setup better. He tweaked his registry and has chosen free programs that you like better, etc. So you are using his full hard drive image and overwriting yours. You'll be using his copy of Windows XP, but it will be legal because you have a key that came with your machine.
The ROMs here overwrite everything. They include everything basic you need to run your PPC and have tweaked the settings and registry keys to get the most out of all of your equipment. The differences are in those tweaks and then the programs they add on. Check out Alex's new wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's ROMs He gives a great idea of the range of ROM options...everything from the absolute basics (all hardware works and comes with the supporting software but you get to add everything else you want, including Office - so this basically equates to just a windows install for your laptop) all the way to all the possible "bells and whistles" including .pdf readers, games, etc. etc. All of the programs that are add-ons to the ROMs are freeware, because XDA doesn't allow warez. As such, you may find a piece of paid software that you like better than something that is used a lot here (for example, I've purchased Opera Mobile), but you'll learn which are the best free options via the ROMs.
The beauty of ROM flashing is it's fast. Takes about ten minutes to flash a new ROM (plus time to install all your add-on programs). If you don't like the one you tried this week (or in some cases day), try a new one next week (or tomorrow). Just make sure you use the radio that is suggested with most ROMs (some include the radio, some allow you to install the radio separately - this will be documented in the post/wiki). Thus you can figure out which optional programs you like the best and use the appropriate ROM. Learning to flash is relatively easy. Figuring out which of the ROMs and other programs you like best - that takes time and it is truly individual opinion.
Edit: BTW - you do not HAVE to SIM unlock your phone before messing with ROMs. I didn't when I started because I'm using on AT&T anyway and wasn't that worried about it. FYI.

With all the reading I've been doing here I never came accross the thread you referred me to....PRICELESS (THX)
Guilf said:
Check out Alex's new wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's ROMs He gives a great idea of the range of ROM options...everything from the absolute basics (all hardware works and comes with the supporting software but you get to add everything else you want, including Office - so this basically equates to just a windows install for your laptop) all the way to all the possible "bells and whistles" including .pdf readers, games, etc. etc.
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Also I now have the impression that the only reason he's made ATT vs HTC Roms has noting to do with the labeling on the phone (Mine's ATT) but only to do with using the ATT .09 radio, otherwise I can use any of the HTC roms and pick a radio that works for my T-mobile service. If I'm wrong please say so.
Also, still wondering whether I can get away with NT2000(sp4) as an OS on my pc.

im fairly certain that you will have no issue using win2k, as its the same kernal as winXP(just not as pretty), which is what most people use to do their flashing. as long as you are able to install activesync and its not vista you should be good to go.

His wiki is pretty new - perhaps that's why you haven't seen it yet. Again, there will be 20 people on here that will swear the ROM they use is the best. You could go equally well starting with Dutty's work (or Q-Mobile or whichever). However, Alex's work is topnotch and as good a place to start as any of the top cooks.
Without knowing precisely, I believe he made the AT&T versions because he's in the U.S. and probably uses AT&T himself. His AT&T versions use the standard AT&T radio and come preconfigured with all the standard AT&T Medianet settings. I've flashed both versions and they work great (I'm on AT&T). But, yes, in your case I would use the standard HTC ROMs.
Good luck.
P.S. As for your PC OS, not really sure. Too much of a newbie for that one myself. Have only heard about specific problems with Vista, but it seems they've made a fix for that. My guess is that you're fine (I know it's the same kernel as XP), but if you're concerned try Pof to find out about HardSPL.

thanks for all the input.....
Here's my new dilemma
It's a G4....so now I need to find nothing but G4 soft/hardSPL along with G4 Rom's and of Unlock the SIM of a G4

That's a Wizard variant. Check the Wizard forum. I think there's also a G4 specific area. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=343

will that work for the Kaiser/Tytn II/ tilt?
I was reading about the Wizard but nothing from there was actually working on my phone

I'm befuddled. Do you have a Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II or a G4? Perhaps I didn't understand your previous post. No, the Tilt stuff will not work on the G4 and the G4 stuff will not work on the Tilt. Different units/different hardware/different CID unlock/different ROMs.

Do you have a Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II or a G4?
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they are the same. The Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II comes in both the G3 and G4 versions.
So now I seek the G4 versions of the CID and SIM unlockers as well as a G4 safe ROM
Any help is greatly appreciated

Custom Roms on Samsung Intrepid

I have always used htc devices on sprint and have been accustomed to using the great roms from this site. Well after visiting a Sprint store today I was about to make the switch to the new Samsung Intrepid over the TP2 until a little light bulb went off in my head that I might not be able to put custom roms on it which would be unacceptable which leads to my question: Will custom roms be available on xda forums for the intrepid? I do not think I could live with Sprints bloatware on the phone.
TIA

hey yea I was wondering the same thing my brother has the phone and its pretty nice was thinking of switching to an intrepid once my mogul dies (sooner rather than later). I have the $30 SERO plan so my options are limited. Will there be a forum for intrepid and/or roms for it on xda?

Chow22 said:
I have always used htc devices on sprint and have been accustomed to using the great roms from this site. Well after visiting a Sprint store today I was about to make the switch to the new Samsung Intrepid over the TP2 until a little light bulb went off in my head that I might not be able to put custom roms on it which would be unacceptable which leads to my question: Will custom roms be available on xda forums for the intrepid? I do not think I could live with Sprints bloatware on the phone.
TIA
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v.bhasin1 said:
hey yea I was wondering the same thing my brother has the phone and its pretty nice was thinking of switching to an intrepid once my mogul dies (sooner rather than later). I have the $30 SERO plan so my options are limited. Will there be a forum for intrepid and/or roms for it on xda?
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Welcome to forums
As stated many times before this is an HTC devices forum and non HTC device will not get a section, however in off topic there is a thread regarding samsung

orb3000 said:
Welcome to forums
As stated many times before this is an HTC devices forum and non HTC device will not get a section, however in off topic there is a thread regarding samsung
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Pretty sure I see some Palm sections.
Anyways, I have the Intrepid and I love it. SPB Mobile Shell is incredible on this phone. Plus you can customize the Titanium screen with some free programs from the Marketplace. Not to mention, the RAM on this phone allows for incredible speed even with the Sprint installed programs.

Those Palm and Xperia on this site are because they are built by HTC

orb3000 said:
Those Palm and Xperia on this site are because they are built by HTC
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Really? That's crazy, I typically like HTC devices but was not pleased with the Treo Pro.

I would def donate to an Intrepid custom rom.

gprimr1 said:
I would def donate to an Intrepid custom rom.
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Gotta say the 6.5 after some modification from the WM Marketplace isn't bad.

it seems kind of weak so far...
my keyboard seems laggy too.

nutrapi said:
it seems kind of weak so far...
my keyboard seems laggy too.
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You have text suggestion on?

Nope - no text suggestion or capitalization...
I've even done the newest rom update, complete wipe, and then turned it all off before syncing any of my data.
Still weak. Girlfriend's tp is still flawless with energyrom compared to my phone in regards to typing.

@nutrapi:
The slow text input has been fixed! There is an upgrade tool which installs a new, much cleaner WinMo 6.5 (I'd suspect so, since the file is over 200MB) on the phone.
Also, I'd like to mention, if it hasn't been mentioned before, that the Intrepid now has a Flash Utility, wich might be able to be used in some way to extract and/or insert custom ROM's to it. Would love to see a kitchen for it sometime, it'd make this phone so much better!

WM6.5 & Battery 1% indicator

This I guess would be in regards to Telus users.
1) Has any telus user found a WM 6.5 upgrade for the TP2 from TELUS
2) 1% indicator for the battery. I had it working but it stopped after I erased my phone and started it again, even tho i reinstalled the same files as before.

i founded many telus
check this out dude...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580354
here is the 2 rom I used and my impression about it....
Mighty Rom is crazy stable... but got manilla 2.0
i wanted to get manilla 2.5... so I jumped on Energy Rom.... work pretty sweet... not as fast as the mighty rom...on my opinion... but come with tons of handly tools...
depend on that you want

Cool.
I have a few questions. The first
1)Can we get the original Telus ROM in case I need to go back to it for warranty issues?
2) I wanna make sure I do it right so i know the first step is to unlock the phone, do we have any really good written instructions for this step?
3) Whats the best link for mighty rom and energy so i can read the details and decide which one is best for me. Plus is there a good set of instructions for flashing your ROM? I know it's fairly straight forward but i'd like to read up on it first.
4) I know the rumors for telus say that march will be when we can switch to the new HSPA network with our phones but if that don't come about is there anyway we can reprogram the radios inside the phone?
Many Thanks,

any updates?

New User - HTC HD2

Hey all.... I'm new to the forums and am looking to get basic info and helpful tips with my new phone. I recently purchased the Tmobile - HTC HD2 - kinda dissapointed because after not looking to much into it I realized its not android compatible which kinda sux... was looking forward to the apps and such.... but anyways, I've been looking into the different stuffs you guys have found for this phone and was wondering if you could point in the direction of some good beginner threads explaining how to access and unlock different things on this phone... any helpful tips or threads would be great. Thanks guys...

Welcome to forums
After you tweak and flash with an XDA custom ROM you won´t need/want Android
Have a look on the Wiki and in Leo section, where you can find all you need to have fun with your HTC device!
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Actually, the Leo section is for a different version of the HD2 (Eurpoean).
You need to go to the Tmobile HD2 section, located here

suxxxxx
Phone is pissing me off... started sticking this weekend... its within my 14 days.. Should I just get the Iphone and call it a day ??? Is it really worth the flash this and flash that ??

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Phone is pissing me off... started sticking this weekend... its within my 14 days.. Should I just get the Iphone and call it a day ??? Is it really worth the flash this and flash that ??
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i dont get it..why people look at htc hd 2 and they like ooh i want one. so they bought an htc hd 2 then hate it. thats really pathetic. yes flash a rom! energy is stable and nice.
before do flash a rom, hardspl then flash a task29 and flash the enegry rom. if u like it, then choose radio which is best for ur location and battery life.
oh yea, IPHONE SUCKS!