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Great looking forum here and great to see all the people offering so much support. Had my Wizard for about a year and now its out of warranty I thought i'd have a play . Theres obviously a few tutorials to follow before flashing a ROM, but i was just going to say, I regularly get Connection Error while trying to flash other ROM's onto this phone. I tried to flash Schaps WM6 ROM to it, but it said connection error. However I have sucessfully flashed the T-mobile 2.26 ROM twice, therefore I am not sure if its the phone or the rom or what. Do you reckon if i follow those tutorials it will sort the connection error issue, or is that a problem with my PC. I have a few WM6 on my PC, crossbow, helmi, etc etc, so i was wondering which you recommend etc. Thanks very much, hopefully ill be able to input something when i learn a bit more
follow the tutorials,
be sure you are cid /sim unlock
only flash roms found in the wizard forum, not on other devices forum, roms are device specific
happy flashing
skezza said:
Great looking forum here and great to see all the people offering so much support. Had my Wizard for about a year and now its out of warranty I thought i'd have a play . Theres obviously a few tutorials to follow before flashing a ROM, but i was just going to say, I regularly get Connection Error while trying to flash other ROM's onto this phone. I tried to flash Schaps WM6 ROM to it, but it said connection error. However I have sucessfully flashed the T-mobile 2.26 ROM twice, therefore I am not sure if its the phone or the rom or what. Do you reckon if i follow those tutorials it will sort the connection error issue, or is that a problem with my PC. I have a few WM6 on my PC, crossbow, helmi, etc etc, so i was wondering which you recommend etc. Thanks very much, hopefully ill be able to input something when i learn a bit more
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Schaps rom is for HERMES
If you want to brick your PDA, then be bold and try roms designed for other devices, but you will certainly BRICK IT
If you have a HTC Wizard then, just like the man before me said, do the following :
Find out if your device is a G3 or a G4
If it's a G3 CID Unlock it (not same as SIM Unlock !!!). If it's a G4, then check the G4 Forum to see what you can do.
Choose a rom that you like most but make sure that it's designed for WIZARD, so i suggest only search in the Wizard forum.
check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Ah right, thanks for that guys, im very glad i didnt flash it with a other ROM now. I certainly don't want to brick it, although it is insured for a while so i could happen to drop it haha
Are there any ROMs you can recommend to me . I am always up for trying them
ok, i think ive CID Unlocked my phone now. Dropped it to Button 1.05 did the lokiwiz bat then dropped it again to bring my SPL down. Ive just put on the t-mobile 2.21 ROM, now am I ready to upgrade to WM6? or do i need to put 2.26 on? Cheers
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ok, i think ive CID Unlocked my phone now. Dropped it to Button 1.05 did the lokiwiz bat then dropped it again to bring my SPL down. Ive just put on the t-mobile 2.21 ROM, now am I ready to upgrade to WM6? or do i need to put 2.26 on? Cheers
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2.21 should be fine. Now start flashing away. Im warning you though, it is addicting as everything lol.
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2.21 should be fine. Now start flashing away. Im warning you though, it is addicting as everything lol.
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Recommend me a good ROM to start with
I am looking for like the general doo da I wouldnt mind the Camera functions etc, and Microsoft Office Mobile. Do you recommend I cook my own ROM?
Cheers for all the help, this forum is fantastic
skezza said:
Recommend me a good ROM to start with
I am looking for like the general doo da I wouldnt mind the Camera functions etc, and Microsoft Office Mobile. Do you recommend I cook my own ROM?
Cheers for all the help, this forum is fantastic
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Go check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320159 .
That is a ROM Kitchen that has pretty much every option you could want in it! Very stable base, and many many options. and if you have any questions, they have probably already been answered in that thread, and if not, "theloon"(the creator) will answer them for ya. Right now its one of the best IMO, and especially for what you are looking for.
skezza said:
Recommend me a good ROM to start with
I am looking for like the general doo da I wouldnt mind the Camera functions etc, and Microsoft Office Mobile. Do you recommend I cook my own ROM?
Cheers for all the help, this forum is fantastic
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hi
As u have still not flashed any wm6 roms as yet, I wud rather suggest first flash and install a couple of cooked roms from others,just to have the feel of them and get used to the newer features added in them. Only when u get urself comfortable with them and understand their working,and above all r successful in flashing roms,inly then start thinking about cooking ur own rom.
There r a couple of very fantastic build Roms by excellent cookers here in this Forum u can start off with e.g
faria's "The real thing Rom",
Mfraaz " Xm6r3"
it's right " Tnt 5 or his Latest Professional+HTC Home"
Xplorer1.1 etc etc
They r all cooked for Wizards specifically.Just search the forum or hit the 'SEARCH' button above,
Welcome to the Flashing lunatics Forum
Happy Flashing
Just put on WM6 TNT1437 and am really impressed. Didnt take long to flash and didnt have any problems with it hanging Runs like a beast, dead quick and I am really impressed with this whole cube thing it seems a bit of useless fun hehe . although there is like a red, yellow and green line at the top of the screen. is that normal?
Okay, I feel a fool Thats the battery meter haha This is great. Its dead fast and runs a lot smoother. I think i am going to like this whole cooking your own Windows thing
Thanks
Grrrrrrrrrrr8
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Just put on WM6 TNT1437 and am really impressed. Didnt take long to flash and didnt have any problems with it hanging Runs like a beast, dead quick and I am really impressed with this whole cube thing it seems a bit of useless fun hehe . although there is like a red, yellow and green line at the top of the screen. is that normal?
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Glade to hear,that u have upgraded and enjoying it
it's a whole new experience.
If u don't feel comfortable with TouchFLO and the cube,than I'll suggest u flash the other equally excellent Professional + HTC Home Rom,u'll even like it much better.
If u dont want multicolor battery bar(comes by default) at the top,u can disable by open WinXplore then startup folder and remove battery level.lnk (you can use file explorer on the folder windows/startup)
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Glade to hear,that u have upgraded and enjoying it
it's a whole new experience.
If u don't feel comfortable with TouchFLO and the cube,than I'll suggest u flash the other equally excellent Professional + HTC Home Rom,u'll even like it much better.
If u dont want multicolor battery bar(comes by default) at the top,u can disable by open WinXplore then startup folder and remove battery level.lnk (you can use file explorer on the folder windows/startup)
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2x
The Professional + HTC Home. I love it!
Well ill probably be cooking more and more roms now just for fun I will try the professional one as well. Whats the benefits out of curiosity? The TouchFLO just looked nice
Anywhere I can get voIP as Cab ?
also whats the deal about changing skins, is it possible to revert to the standard crossbow skin or even change and customize a new one. this is all so new to me
Done and I like Now i want to cook my own ROM's make my own skins and get voIP on
congrats man , great feeling right
Rather than starting a new thread ill ask in this one, has anyone got Farias Camera cab Cheers
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
I get my Tilt Tuesday and am wondering what the "bottom line" is on this as well. It seems by removing bloatware, and installing a few cabs, you pretty much get a Kaiser. Speed and battery life are concerns for me though and if either is poor, I'm pretty comfortable installing a ROM (did it previously on my Wizard). Thanks to all for all the good info and advice. I've read way too much considering I don't even have the phone yet.
Hopefully we'll get an answer. On another forum I've read that you can install cabs to make the Tilt like the HTC, but on another thread I read that the HTC rom is different and better!
I'm not seeing any major disadvantages from using the HTC rom, actually, besides the menu problems which evidently have a fix. So, it might be worth a shot.
advantages
dhecker said:
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
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custom roms base on htc releases have many advantages:
1- get rid of all junk and restrictions of at&t one
2- reg hacks and fixes that take the most out of your phone
3- many more advantages but if numbered here will take me all night
search in these forum and you get many other reasons to change. For example i bought the tilt and in the same day i unlock it due a hardspl and change the rom to a custom one and beleive i will never come back to at&t stock rom.
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
Pops_G said:
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
It all comes down to preferrences. I have a Tilt, and I have installed just about every ROM available here. I keep going back to HTC oriented ROMS, but there is some drawback in that you have to "tweak" it a bit usually to get full AT&T usability. AT&T ROMS are good for staying "true" to the carrier's mindset, but usually are buggy or slower. Dutty's right now is my fav, but that could change
Battery life is best controlled with 2 applications, both the Kaiser Tweak program, and with a good comm manager program to disable comm when not in use. Or at least move between 2G and 3G connections. 3G is awesome fast, but a hugh battery drain.
Thanks for your input! I played with a Tllt for a while and the AT&T rom might have been slower (I don't know cause I've never seen the HTC!) but it was totally stable as far as I could tell. Is there some specific bugginess that you saw or are you just referring to the general sloppiness of the AT&T bundles, etc.?
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
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No, there is nothing you cannot do with the AT&T rom given enough time and tweaking. Before I got my phone I some how got the impression ROMs where almost like a different animal. I think a better analogy would be comparing them to a house with furniture. The different ROMs are just different styles.
But if you are a real power user, and it sounds like you are, I would just use another ROM and start from there. You will save some time. I'm a fan of the "clean" ROMs that some with almost nothing installed. Then I build them up from there. They are very easy to install if you read the instructions. And it only takes like 10-15 mins max.
Pops - That last comment was interesting. I can totally see the advantage of installing a lite rom or for that matter, a fully loaded Dutty's rom, etc. My concern was that if I did that, I'd actually wind up having to tweak for a while to get things smooth on the Tilt since I wouldn't be using the 'stock' rom. The assumption is the everything would work on day 1 with the stock rom, so I can tweak but I never have to really get things going.
In your experience, if I installed the most recent version of Dutty's Hybrid Kaiser TouchFlo Final (if I'm gonna flash the rom, I might as well load it up) that things would be about as stable/easy as if I spent time customized the AT&T rom?
If there's not too much risk or BS I might just go for it! There is something about keeping the original rom that makes me feel more confident, but it's also fun to tweak on the thing!
Well there are two types of Kaisers right now. The original HTC branded one and the Tilt. They are different in 2 ways. For the Tilt, some roms require you to install a keyboard fix for a minor adjustment. Also you have to configure the AT&T internet settings. It depends on the ROM. Some of the ROMs are already designed for the Tilt.
To answer your question, yes some of these ROMs can have you up and running without any tweaking or adjustments at all. Just read their instructions, it varies for each one.
For me, if I start with a stripped down ROM it takes me about 2 hours or more to install all of my apps and tweaks. For the fully featured ROMs like Dutty's, you can be ready to go in 20-30mins.
I installed the HTC stock ROM on my Tilt for the same reason I install reference drivers for my video card:
1. They are more true to the manufacturer's specifications.
2. There are more frequent and faster updates available.
Number 2 was the most important for me, even though HTC has not released an updated ROM yet...but when they do, I know that I can install it and it will be closer to what I have been using.
I had the Tilt ROM installed for a few weeks before I reverted to the HTC ROM. I also installed the HTC customizations on the Tilt ROM and played with that for a while. I noticed slight differences between the applications like the HTC Home application UI behavour has minor differences. There was also more available memory on the HTC ROM from the Tilt ROM even after I cancelled the Tilt customizations from installing.
Oh here is a neat program to help you test different ROMs without losing your contacts, SMS, call history etc.
PIM Backup
Have to throw my 2 cents in also.
Just got the Tilt last month,and after my initial fear of flashing(and succesfully installing HARDSPL) I've flashed lots of these ROM's too. I however, have to agree with Pops_G, the best solution I've found has been a "clean ROM" and customize it the way I want. I prefer the ATT versions over the monochrome/big clock/UGLY UI that the Kaiser ones have. I've been using Kyphur's Tilt XDA-Live v1.1 and love it. It provides the most storage of ANY of the custom ROMs and has the newest radio also. It shows a significant difference in my area;where the signal borders on weak.
Alemaker
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
dhecker said:
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
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Give yourself some time with each Rom (a few days) to really get a feel for it. Also know that your battery is going to be crap for a couple of weeks until it is properly "conditioned" so don't even include that in your comparison.
Another thing you need to consider what are you looking to gain from using a cooked rom? While it can be nice to have a lot of apps mixed in once there is a new version of an app you have to either flash an updated rom or install the update over the cooked version in which case you are now losing memory as the files in the rom can't really be deleted (only marked as such)...
kypher: Thanks for your input. I am interest in your comment about having apps in the rom, space, etc.
Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Technically you can update (or even delete) the apps that are cooked in BUT... you've already paid in storage space for the files. When you upgrade the cooked files are marked as deleted so the files from the cab can overwrite them BUT... the files can't actually be deleted so if you have a 4MB program (like MS Voice Command) cooked in and you get an upgrade then you are actually paying 8MB of storage for the program now.
In short, even though the files are marked as deleted and you phone acts like they are deleted, you can't recover the memory they used if the files are cooked into the Rom. This is the primary reason I'm stripping XDA Live down as close to the undershorts as I can.
Well, the phone came this afternoon and I've been fooling around with it ever since. So far, so good!
I like the AT&T Tilt setup a lot. But, being a long-time geek I just couldn't resist and now I'm flashing Dutty's Tilt Rom. I'll play with that for a while, then maybe think about a long-term setup. It's kind of nice being able to flash the rom as I don't have to worry too much about screwing up the configuration since I can reflash at any time.
much fun! thanks everyone
I would like to try different ROMs as well, but I would like to be able to go back to ATT Tilt ROM if need be. How can I backup my original ATT ROM, so that I can flash back to it, if I needed to?
Hey guys,
Sorry for the extreme noobness of this post, but I am completely lost here. It appears that ROMeOS 4.1 is the ROM to get. But then I read that you need to install HardSPL first, then you need to pick the right radio and install that, but you need to be sure that it is the right radio for you, etc. None of this makes any sense at all to someone who has never done this before. Will I lose all the apps I've installed when I do this? If so, what is the best/easiest way to back them up so I can reinstall them after the ROM update? I also read that you need to install a keyboard fix, a screen freeze fix, and extra apps that came originally on the device need to be downloaded and installed.
I guess what I'm asking is, how do I make this $650 piece of junk that HTC won't support (they refuse to give me ROMs for it since I bought it through Amazon) into a device that is worth using with some simple step-by-step instructions? The speed and unreliability of it in its stock form for this price is completely inexcusable. I am very ready to make some donations as well.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
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Thank you so much Kareem! That pretty much answered all my questions. Maybe I'm blind, but I did not see a link to that particular wiki in the stickied thread about tutorials. I think there should be a sticky in this forum with a title: HELP! I'm a noob and I need to flash my ROMS! With that link included.
Thanks again, you rock!
Oh, and I do have one last question, what radio has had the most reliability with the ROMeOS 4.1?
If you are looking for a section dedicated to n00bs, check out GWENI, linked in my signature. It was written for n00bs, by a self-proclaimed n00b.
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Thank you so much Kareem! That pretty much answered all my questions. Maybe I'm blind, but I did not see a link to that particular wiki in the stickied thread about tutorials. I think there should be a sticky in this forum with a title: HELP! I'm a noob and I need to flash my ROMS! With that link included.
Thanks again, you rock!
Oh, and I do have one last question, what radio has had the most reliability with the ROMeOS 4.1?
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According to Hang Tuah's (the creator of ROMeOS) post in the dedicated thread here: "I personally tried NEON 1.58.25.17, KAIS 1.65.24.36 & KAIS 1.71.09.01".
Hi, the trickiest part of the bussiness is to do the HardSPL, which will allow you to flash any ROM or radio.
Then, if you do not want to complicate your life too much, flash one of the HTC WM 6.1 official ROMs.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Or pick a cooked ROM that has all included (i.e. not Lite ROMs), operating system, Office, Windows Live, and a radio firmware.
hardSPL install is not tricky but its the MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do. just follow the directions carefully and you will have no issues. Radios are personal preference BUT newer WM6.1 roms need the newer 1.65.xx.xx radios but again there is a whole thread explaining this also
enjoy your toy!
wow someone who posted with concern before bricking the device..and he did his homework as well he could before hand CHEERS!! As you'll quickly learn most noobs flash first, brick, then want the xda community to fix it without them having to do anything(like read). So I applaud you.
Heh. Thanks liquidfork. I'm pretty big into Linux and open source, so I know to read as much as I can find first and then attempt.
So, I did successfully flash ROMeOS 4.1 on my device after putting HardSPL 3.56 on it and the newest radio (forget the version offhand). It's blazing fast now. But, a small problem: When I try to restore my sprite backup, the phone will start up with the "bios" screen, but it just sits there and never boots. Now, Sprite backup complains that it needs a .sbu file that I can get from their website. I see nothing on their website about .sbu files. Is there any way to restore my stuff, or am I hosed? I do miss the HTC today screen and some of the utilities I had. I'd hate to have to roll back to an "official" ROM for this.
Thanks again for your help guys, this community is great.
Anyone? I would like to avoid reinstalling everything if at all possible. Thanks.
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Anyone? I would like to avoid reinstalling everything if at all possible. Thanks.
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You cannot restore Sprite Backups from ROM to ROM. It is designed to restore your files and settings when doing a hard reset of reflashing the same ROM.
Sprite Backup does have a ROM Upgrade feature, but I've yet to see it work.
Through experimentation, I figured as much. That's too bad. I've come to find that while the ROMeOS is quite a bit faster than the WM6 that came on the device, it is very spartan. I've gotten used to the little gadgets in the HTC roms, particularly their today screen, some of the settings, and some of the utilities. I think I'm going to flash with a shipped WM6.1 from HTC and see how it works, I will try doing a Sprite backup restore on that as well, but I'm not holding my breath that it will work. Is there a huge difference in speed between the shipped HTC ROM and a cooked ROM? Better yet, is there a cooked ROM that gives most or all of the HTC functionality but is faster?
baldcyclops said:
Through experimentation, I figured as much. That's too bad. I've come to find that while the ROMeOS is quite a bit faster than the WM6 that came on the device, it is very spartan. I've gotten used to the little gadgets in the HTC roms, particularly their today screen, some of the settings, and some of the utilities. I think I'm going to flash with a shipped WM6.1 from HTC and see how it works, I will try doing a Sprite backup restore on that as well, but I'm not holding my breath that it will work. Is there a huge difference in speed between the shipped HTC ROM and a cooked ROM? Better yet, is there a cooked ROM that gives most or all of the HTC functionality but is faster?
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The perfect ROM is like the perfect beer. Everyone has their own opinions and taste.
However... I will say this. It is better to find a fast rom and then search these forums for the appropriate cabs for those applications you can't do without.
Not only will you only have the ops you want, but I have all those cabs on a secure digital card... then you use sashimi to load them when you perform a flash...
Because once you have done a flash... you will be doing more...
As they say on the TV about golf weenies... these guys are good... and there is always a new ROM that looks marvy.
cyjeff said:
The perfect ROM is like the perfect beer. Everyone has their own opinions and taste.
However... I will say this. It is better to find a fast rom and then search these forums for the appropriate cabs for those applications you can't do without.
Not only will you only have the ops you want, but I have all those cabs on a secure digital card... then you use sashimi to load them when you perform a flash...
Because once you have done a flash... you will be doing more...
As they say on the TV about golf weenies... these guys are good... and there is always a new ROM that looks marvy.
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True, I can see that now. I think the main thing I'm missing that I can't live without is being able to click in the upper right on the today screen and stop running processes from there. Especially since with ROMeOS 4.1, going into the task manager has locked up my phone twice now. If I can figure out how to get that functionality back, I think I can live with the rest. Is that functionality in the HTC home CAB that is in the extended cabs for ROMeOS? I'll probably install the CAB anyhow just to see.
Download and install this cab I've attached.
Heres a link to AllTheWays 4Shaered pages he's one of the mods on here. It has all the applications you're looking for.
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5551593/20b4549a/sharing.html
ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better. and i was also wondering what other good software is there like manila 2d to use.
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ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better.
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hey there,
what rom are you using now?
the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick
BLACKE30 said:
the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick
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Hey there,
Kool no probs, the vogue is a reasonably old device and as such doesnt have a huge amount of memory.
Running the apps you mention will use a lot of memory esp if you have some other apps open.
If i were you, i would wonder over to the vogue section, do some reading to understand how to flash a cooked rom on ur fone.
Using a cooked lite rom will release some memory and will depending on the rom will give u a much newer interface to use, rather than the old touchflo.
Just make sure you do a bit of reading first so u dont end up bricking ur device
Greetz and have fun.
i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
sorry but forgot i got one more question, if i put a micro sd memory card would that also solve the proglem?
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i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
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Yes u can use that to change the appearance of htc home, you can do quite a lot with that, like colours etc.
If you delve into ur device a little, you can find the pic files for the clock and change them so they look like the touchflo3d clock (just wont flip)
Dont worry, spend your time reading, it is acutally quite simple to hardspl and flash, just the first time is kinda scary lol.
okay man thanks a lot.
I don't have the knowledge of what I need to do to my phone before I start all this
I just got a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 and it has WM 6.1. Do I need to immediately upgrade to 6.5 or can it just be 6.1 till WM7 comes out.
What do I need to do with my ROM....is it necessary to FLASH my phone(whatever that means) I don't wanna mess up my phone and void my warranty.
I don't know what Manila it has because for some reason when I try to go to Software Info in Device Info...there is no Software tab(weird right?)
Do I need to go ahead and dwload the latest Manila? What is the latest?
I want to get the most out of this phone and do all the cool tweaking and stuff.
I also want to beable to do the upgrades on the ppcmods website
They weren't working for me for some reason(can't tell what version of Manila I have)
anything else I need to do to be on the same page as all of you let me know. I don't want to mess up my phone or break it so this is why I'm asking.
thanks in advance
Ben6485 said:
Do I need to immediately upgrade to 6.5 or can it just be 6.1 till WM7 comes out.
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Whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 is entirely up to you. Some ppl like myself have tried 6.5 and have gone back to 6.1 because of performance issues. Give it a try and see for yourself.
If you've been following the news related to Windows Phone 7 Series, you'll realize that the Touch Pro2 doesn't meet the minimum requirements. In fact, there are some leaks that say even the HD2 (with its superior specs) might not get upgrade. There's about zero change M$ or HTC will release an official WP7S ROM for our Touch Pro2s. We can only put our faith in XDA chefs.
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What do I need to do with my ROM....is it necessary to FLASH my phone(whatever that means) I don't wanna mess up my phone and void my warranty.
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Again, whether or not you flash to another ROM is up to you. If you flash to an official ROM, then you won't void your warranty. If you choose to flash to custom cooked ROMs, then you'll need HSPL which will void your warranty. But you can undo it. Please read the stickies in the ROM section for further info.
Ben6485 said:
I don't know what Manila it has because for some reason when I try to go to Software Info in Device Info...there is no Software tab(weird right?)
Do I need to go ahead and dwload the latest Manila? What is the latest?
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Go to the Settings tab in TouchFlo3D. Scroll down and you should be able to see your Manila version in the "About" section. Otherwise you'll have to look in your registry at this key: "HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Version"
The latest is 2.5 which runs considerably slower than 2.1 on our devices. And you can't just install different versions of Manila. They have to be cooked into the ROM.
Ben6485 said:
anything else I need to do to be on the same page as all of you let me know
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Don't know what else to tell you since it's impossible to know what you want out of your device. Just read all the stickies in each thread and read the wiki.
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Whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 is entirely up to you. Some ppl like myself have tried 6.5 and have gone back to 6.1 because of performance issues. Give it a try and see for yourself.
If you've been following the news related to Windows Phone 7 Series, you'll realize that the Touch Pro2 doesn't meet the minimum requirements. In fact, there are some leaks that say even the HD2 (with its superior specs) might not get upgrade. There's about zero change M$ or HTC will release an official WP7S ROM for our Touch Pro2s. We can only put our faith in XDA chefs.
Again, whether or not you flash to another ROM is up to you. If you flash to an official ROM, then you won't void your warranty. If you choose to flash to custom cooked ROMs, then you'll need HSPL which will void your warranty. But you can undo it. Please read the stickies in the ROM section for further info.
Go to the Settings tab in TouchFlo3D. Scroll down and you should be able to see your Manila version in the "About" section. Otherwise you'll have to look in your registry at this key: "HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Version"
The latest is 2.5 which runs considerably slower than 2.1 on our devices. And you can't just install different versions of Manila. They have to be cooked into the ROM.
Don't know what else to tell you since it's impossible to know what you want out of your device. Just read all the stickies in each thread and read the wiki.
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thanks!
is says in the about section
touchflo3d 2.1.38416.1
what are some of the Official Roms that are pretty cool? I think I want to go the official route...is Max Manila official?
Also..I did read a few stickies....but how long does "flashing" take. I get calls throughout the day so I can't just not have a phone for a few hours. If I mess up how can I backtrack to fix it?
I just wish there was someone I knew that knows how to do all this stuff and let him do it but I will try this myself...probably wait till this weekend that I way I have some stuff planned out
Also...I like 6.1 and I think I'm just gonna stick with that
so I guess I need to flash my rom to get the right version of manila
what are some of of the "official" roms out there?
Right now, the only official ROM from Sprint is the one that shipped on the phone. IMHO I would not recommend flashing a VZN ROM to a Sprint phone.
The only other option for other ROM's are the cooked ones. A WORD(s) OF ADVICE -- if you decide to flash to a cooked ROM -- READ, READ, READ, READ, READ and then READ, READ, READ some more. For example, if you read you will find out that flashing a GSM ROM on a CDMA phone can have very undesired affects (and if you read, you will know that you should never do this) -- DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST. I'm saying that it's not cool to flash to a custom ROM, I'm only saying that you need to understand a little before you do it.
Have fun if you decide to flash to a cooked ROM and DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM IF YOU ARE UNSURE.
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Right now, the only official ROM from Sprint is the one that shipped on the phone. IMHO I would not recommend flashing a VZN ROM to a Sprint phone.
The only other option for other ROM's are the cooked ones. A WORD(s) OF ADVICE -- if you decide to flash to a cooked ROM -- READ, READ, READ, READ, READ and then READ, READ, READ some more. Flashing a GSM ROM on a CDMA phone can have very undesired affects -- DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST. I'm saying that it's not cool to flash to a custom ROM, I'm only saying that you need to understand a little before you do it.
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I def wont be flashing a verizon rom to sprint.
is there no custom cdma roms?
I guess I have alot of reading to do because I want to make sure I don't mess my phone up..lol
not afraid to ask questions....just don't know the right questions...haha
I seem to be clueless on the phone stuff even though I'm a whiz at the computer
to tell you the truth...i like the way it is right now...i just want to beable to change the slidebar, background, clock, take the curtains off the top and bottom of the today screen and add lots and lots of cool aps
but to do that I need manila 2.5 and right now i think i have 2.1
If there was a way to get this without having to flash that would be great but I don't think there is a way to.
It would be nice to beable to have some of my fav aps on the today page but it's not a big deal...i can just hit Start and it takes me to a good enough page
Here are some helpful links:
Hard SPL : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660
Hard SPL allows you to unlock your phone for flashing custom ROMs. This does not unlock your radio (which is something you probably wont mess with yet, link below).
SIM Radio unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578642
Custom ROMs sorted by most popular: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98&daysprune=30&order=desc&sort=views
You can use any of these, be careful downloading the ones on XDA as they are mainly GSM roms and can brick your device. Read each ROM page carefully to find one that is right for you. I currently use MightyRom and it works great for my needs. Very stable and responsive.
Flashing the phone generally wont take long, my first time it was probably around 25-30 minutes at most. Also, i'm not sure how its done on sprint but I had to call vzw and get a unique activation code, until then I could not make calls (but I could receive them still). Take a look at this video for some tips for flashing your phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7CPM3yeUk
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Just saw your second post, check out these links:
http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/tf3d.htm
Also, there are two different versions. tf3d is one and the other is sense UI. More info here:
http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/tp2main.htm
Most of the cool apps can be installed on either version, just depends on exactly what you are talking about.
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http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/tp2main.htm
Most of the cool apps can be installed on either version, just depends on exactly what you are talking about.
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I Dloaded and installed a slider from there....the icons are too small and so I uninstalled it
It's stays like that and I can't get back the stock sliders
Ben6485 said:
I Dloaded and installed a slider from there....the icons are too small and so I uninstalled it
It's stays like that and I can't get back the stock sliders
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what icon set did you use? make sure you only use tf3d as you do not have sense UI. Try using this file to reset back to stock.
http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/files/Default_White.cab
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what icon set did you use? make sure you only use tf3d as you do not have sense UI. Try using this file to reset back to stock.
http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/files/Default_White.cab
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cool thanks...i'll give it a try
I think this weekend though I am going to flash the Rom and really get everything I can out of this phone
If I have to take it in for work I can just flash it back to stock
Ben6485 said:
cool thanks...i'll give it a try
I think this weekend though I am going to flash the Rom and really get everything I can out of this phone
If I have to take it in for work I can just flash it back to stock
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np, let me know if you have any questions while flashing etc.
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np, let me know if you have any questions while flashing etc.
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oh..they're will be questions
right now all I need to know is the approximate time it takes to flash it....as in
how long will I not beable to get calls...that way I can pick the best time to do the flash
also...what all do I NEED to save on my phone....I have most stuff(apps, music, pictures) on my miniSD card
I have all my contacts and messages on my Microsoft My Phone app
What is the least buggy ROM?
I was looking at Max Manila(if that's a rom) and it was pretty cool
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4017/ultimate6.jpg
mightyrom is pretty cool too but I wish that some of the apps could be on the today screen
http://i33.tinypic.com/n48cco.png
It seems like you have most of the stuff you would NEED already backed up. Maybe text messages are the only other thing I can think of.
It usually takes me less than 20 minutes to completely flash my ROM and get it ready (provisioning, favorite apps, etc). My first try was around 30 minutes, with about 15 minutes of actual phone downtime. At MOST plan for about 30 minutes of phone downtime...and depending on how your carrier does it you may have to wait on hold for outgoing calls to work again (call from a landline/different phone and get custom activation code).
Max manila is going to be less stable and more buggy by nature. Our phones just don't have the best cpu for sense 2.5. Juicy r10 seems to be one of the favorite sense 2.5 roms, but has some issues with mms. Energy leo is another good 2.5 rom with max manila but also has some minor issues, read the respective threads to find out more info. MightyRom and Energy Pheonix are going to be your two most stable roms IMO, but they come w/ sense 2.1. Only sense 2.5 will have the today screen launch icons.
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It seems like you have most of the stuff you would NEED already backed up. Maybe text messages are the only other thing I can think of.
It usually takes me less than 20 minutes to completely flash my ROM and get it ready (provisioning, favorite apps, etc). My first try was around 30 minutes, with about 15 minutes of actual phone downtime. At MOST plan for about 30 minutes of phone downtime...and depending on how your carrier does it you may have to wait on hold for outgoing calls to work again (call from a landline/different phone and get custom activation code).
Max manila is going to be less stable and more buggy by nature. Our phones just don't have the best cpu for sense 2.5. Juicy r10 seems to be one of the favorite sense 2.5 roms, but has some issues with mms. Energy leo is another good 2.5 rom with max manila but also has some minor issues, read the respective threads to find out more info. MightyRom and Energy Pheonix are going to be your two most stable roms IMO, but they come w/ sense 2.1. Only sense 2.5 will have the today screen launch icons.
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cool...maybe I'll do it sometime on Friday or Saturday when I have nothing to do
if it doesn't take long maybe I'll try out one of the 2.5 ones...then if it's just too buggy I'll check out MightyRom
i'm excited to do this...I wish I could do it 2night
do you recommend to just to do it and follow instructions precisely(after reading it once) or should I read it and about it over and over again(when I have time that is) and then do it this weekend
Edit: NVM...this is alot to read so I'll just make sure I do it right on Saturday
I'll probably get Mightrom Impact..looks cool
but I like the background image of "love"
so far my today screen looks like this
I do plan on flashing it but for now just wanted SOMETHING...haha
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/458/screenshot9mh.jpg
I downloaded the whole theme
Theres a few problems with it(on my phone...don't know if others have same problems) but it will work until I flash my ROM and stuff
Ben6485 said:
so far my today screen looks like this
I do plan on flashing it but for now just wanted SOMETHING...haha
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/458/screenshot9mh.jpg
I downloaded the whole theme
Theres a few problems with it(on my phone...don't know if others have same problems) but it will work until I flash my ROM and stuff
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Just keep playing with your phone (while erring on the safe side) and continue learning. Keep searching the forums and reading when you have questions. There are a lot of great themes and apps out there, so don't think you are stuck using sense (although I still enjoy using it from time to time). At the very least you are on your way to really understanding how to make this phone YOUR phone.
Watch the youtube video I posted earlier in this thread, its a great visual way to learn how to flash your phone, and it is done in under 10 minutes.
Ben6485 said:
so far my today screen looks like this
I do plan on flashing it but for now just wanted SOMETHING...haha
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/458/screenshot9mh.jpg
I downloaded the whole theme
Theres a few problems with it(on my phone...don't know if others have same problems) but it will work until I flash my ROM and stuff
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Oooh, I'd like to help a little here. I'm also a Sprint user, so here's my cent:
This site is mainly comprised of users that have GSM devices (ATT&T, T-Mobile, and such.) So, I advise you to use this and PPCGeeks as well, since that's sort of a CDMA counter-part to this site. Some knowledge!
- You currently have TF3D 2.1 on the Stock ROM, but when most people compare and ask whether you have 2.5 or 2.1, they are referring to HTC SENSE 2.1 vs. SENSE 2.5. This is because all the other Touch Pro 2 variants have already had the 6.5 upgrade from their carrier, which comes with Sense 2.1. We are supposed to get ours by the end of first quarter of this year (Which leaves by the end of this month.), but Sprint still hasn't specified a date.
- Here's the thread you want to look at for most of your CDMA needs: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
- Here's the thread for unlocking your phone to flash custom ROMs: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=93252
-Unlocking your phone is not too hard and the way the peeps have made it, it's pretty much safe. In the second post of the thread in the above link, there is the relocker, if you wish to lock it for warranty purposes. Remember, always flash back to Stock ROM (If you're on a custom one.) THEN re-lock.
- Here's the thread you'll find the original STOCK ROM download, in case you want to flash back to stock after a custom ROM: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940
Also, from your last screen-shot of your home screen, you are using tab icons meant for QVGA devices, since they're so small (Of course, the messed up flip-clock, top cutain, and icons, are also a little messed up, haha.). HOPE I helped, and if I mentioned stuff you already knew, maybe someone else can benefit from the info.
Stick- you posted a very nice piece there.
I would also add, try reading up flashing from the ROM card. What I do is place the Stock Sprint ROM there so that I can always go back to stock when needed.
Sometimes some cooks suggest flashing to stock first then a custom ROM especially when moving from one cook's ROM to another ROM.