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Can you help me decide? WM6 ROM for old AT&T Blue, 8125 in Southern California

hello everyone!
i have been reading feverishly on all of this, and think i have some solid ideas.
Wanted to come right out and ask.
Anyone have a recommendation for me as far as which WM6 Rom to upgrade to?
My 8125 is unlocked for use with the old AT&T Blue (yes, i know, im holding on for dear life out of contract!)
Which would work best for me? (rom, radio, etc, for WM6. and do i have to unlock the CID again? same old method? or new for WM6?)
I am sick of WM5 and the issues i am having a fresh start would do it, but why not upgrade!?
appreciate any links as well.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
Dan

My findings
Hi,
It's always best to first read the tread on how to flash. Realy.
2nd flash to the latest rom from your provider .
Radio 2.19 seems to be the best in general. Others have issues in some situations. However you can flash those without hard reset. So you can try several without losing settings and stuff.
On OS my findings for wm6 are Faria's latest (no touch) or reTOUChed final. But i didn't try NBD 7.9 yet.
All respect to other cooks! these just met my needs best. It's personal.
greetings
Spinner van Webben

thanks for the input
i am trying to catch up. i used to visit this forum multiple times a day! i am trying to jump back in the scene after almost a year. thread links are a definite a plus!
can you post links for that stuff?
I have flashed before, but it was a whilllle ago
i have been eyeballing this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
any particulars i should take extra time to study?
i am having the battery drain issue. started up within the last month.
my current setup is as follows:
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 2.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
as always, i really appreciate you guys and your help. you cant even pay to get the information you guys share free!
dan

danrw84 said:
thanks for the input
i am trying to catch up. i used to visit this forum multiple times a day! i am trying to jump back in the scene after almost a year. thread links are a definite a plus!
can you post links for that stuff?
I have flashed before, but it was a whilllle ago
i have been eyeballing this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
any particulars i should take extra time to study?
i am having the battery drain issue. started up within the last month.
my current setup is as follows:
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 2.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
as always, i really appreciate you guys and your help. you cant even pay to get the information you guys share free!
dan
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Hey, take a look at my sig.
I've been reading through these forums for months too.
Here's my 2 cents:
You need to decide what kind of ROM you want... Touch or Crossbow
I use to love Crossbow but I found Touch and I'm in love with it...once you go with Touch you won't want to go to Crossbow anymore.
If you want Touch.. I would say NBD v7.8..it's awesome.
If you want Crossbow.. NTS v1 (jaguar) is awesome too... there is NTS v2.. but I haven't tried it.

sweet. you have the same setup i do
i am not familiar with touch or crossbow. what is the diff?
can you link me to the files i need, and/or the procedure you used to update?
thanks so much

danrw84 said:
sweet. you have the same setup i do
i am not familiar with touch or crossbow. what is the diff?
can you link me to the files i need, and/or the procedure you used to update?
thanks so much
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Sorry, my friend... then you have lot of reading to do.
Espeically if you don't even know how to flash...
This is for your own good.. if you don't know what you're doing.. you might brick your phone.... meaning dead phone.
So, I advise you to start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
This should tell you how to flash...
Then you can start picking out what you want to flash to.
Touch: NBD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311534
Crossbow: NTS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314660
If you don't know the difference then try flashing them both and pick which one you like... I did... I must have flashed like dozens of time to figure out which one I liked. Also, people have different needs and preference so my taste in ROMs might not fit your needs too.
Just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean everything's going to work... we'd want them to but sometime it's now.. so, without knowing what you did you won't probably enjoy the new ROM.
Try to enjoy this learning process.. otherwise, I'd say don't even bother because you're gonna have hell of a time trying to get everything just right.
I'm not trying to be mean.... just trying to help.
I'll try to help anyone if I can.. just like everyone else in this forum.
PS. I go here to see the list of threads for WM6 Wizard (8125).. I try to keep up with it but can't..so, I just focus on what I like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356&order=desc

I do know how to flash!
i flashed it before, but i am not up to speed with the new stuff.
to make my phone ideal, stable, and the best it can be,
which version recommendations do you suggest for, rom, radio, etc.
how should i set the phone up? which rom should i download and is there a particular place you can link me to download?
if i just know WHAT i want to, which versions, etc, i can read up, search and do all that myself. i just dont know what would be ideal for me right now
i am having a problem with the 8125 where i will be talking and it will just shut off and start rebooting, and keep rebooting. die, reboot. with full battery.
then when i plug it in to the stock charger, it will come on, but the battery reads in at like 6-15%,
is this the battery?
it started acting up when i spilled a little water on it last week!

danrw84 said:
hello everyone!
i have been reading feverishly on all of this, and think i have some solid ideas.
Wanted to come right out and ask.
Anyone have a recommendation for me as far as which WM6 Rom to upgrade to?
My 8125 is unlocked for use with the old AT&T Blue (yes, i know, im holding on for dear life out of contract!)
Which would work best for me? (rom, radio, etc, for WM6. and do i have to unlock the CID again? same old method? or new for WM6?)
I am sick of WM5 and the issues i am having a fresh start would do it, but why not upgrade!?
appreciate any links as well.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
Dan
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I am in SC with ATT (Cingular) and a 8125 G4 and am having good results with XDA Mobile 6 Release 2a Full Version. I started flashing without unlocking the CID but it was a pain so I went ahead and unlocked it, but it is not necessary and there are some great step by step instructions in the forum. I followed the instructions and even though I am a newbie I haven't bricked my phone.
Jim in San Diego

danrw84 said:
I do know how to flash!
i flashed it before, but i am not up to speed with the new stuff.
to make my phone ideal, stable, and the best it can be,
which version recommendations do you suggest for, rom, radio, etc.
how should i set the phone up? which rom should i download and is there a particular place you can link me to download?
if i just know WHAT i want to, which versions, etc, i can read up, search and do all that myself. i just dont know what would be ideal for me right now
i am having a problem with the 8125 where i will be talking and it will just shut off and start rebooting, and keep rebooting. die, reboot. with full battery.
then when i plug it in to the stock charger, it will come on, but the battery reads in at like 6-15%,
is this the battery?
it started acting up when i spilled a little water on it last week!
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Oh.. in that case.. just like my sig says, I use NBD v7.8 right.. gonna flash to v7.9 soon.. man, thast zoki guy is fast and good.
go here and you'll find bunch of he's ROMs... I found that v7.4 & v7.8 is most stable, for me at least.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311534
For Radio.. the UK T-Mobile 2.19 is most stable from what I hear and experienced.
I've only tried 2.69 with ipl/spl 3.08.. but didn't work out.. I started missing calls.
There are group of people who's trying to figure out which Radio is the best in this forum... so, look in there time to time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312834&page=22
When flashing I always try to flash to T-Mobile 2.26 first.. then flash UK T-mobile 2.19.. then whatever ROM I want.. this way I start fresh all the time.
About your battery... well, I'm no expert but it might be with your battery... don't know.. I bet that water did do some damage.. if it's still under warrenty I would try getting a replacement for the phone first... then, if it still doesn't work then try getting new battery. Other then that, I don't know much about battery... good luck!

T-mobile ROM or HTC ROM plus other questions!

Hi all i have been using pda phones for a long time and have followed this website for quite a while...
I have an obsession for these kind of phones...so today i upgraded my phone from vario to the new vario 3.
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio (not to good with the terminology).
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG or any other versions of it and whether i would be better off using the original htc one...i wasnt really fond of the rom for the vario.
also i havent flashed a phone in a long long time (last time was for my mda compact which was nearly 2/3 years ago!)..so i wanted to ask is there anything i should know? i have been reading the threads and i wanted to know which version of the hard spl should i use because there are several different stickies with difference hard spl
Can you update the radio serparatly from the rom? or can you do them both at the same time? and also which radio and rom would you recommend?
and also where can i learn to understand what exactly rom/radio/ext rom are exactly..i have a respectable idea of what they are but jus wanna make sure i know what im doing before i do it..
and also what does dumping a rom do?
thanks for your help
sorry if these questions have already been asked!

slachanah said:
One of the first things i plan to do is flash the ROM/Radio
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Why?
slachanah said:
i was wondering what people think of the t-mobile rom ENG
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I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.

Mr.Clark said:
Why?
I've got no problems with it, actually. Sure, there's a few tweaks need installing, but I don't think there's anything serious enough to risk changing the ROM for - the device hasn't been out long enough for people to make any significant additions to it and as far as I know, there aren't any official upgrades out yet.
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Well i have read one of the threads that the htc rom does leave u more space and does run slightly quicker..
Mr.Clark said:
I've stuck the MoDaCo Vario III de-brand on, to change the icons back to sensible colours, then picked up other tweaks from this site and MoDaCo.
Easier than a ROM flash, reversible, and risk-free.
Before you rush off and flash a new ROM, ask yourself what you're actually trying to accomplish.
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Any particular tweaks that you would recommend here or the modaco website?
was trying to get rid of some of the bloatware that i didnt want that t-mobile provides..but i will take ur advice and not rush into it..will wait for a month or two before i start prying around...
plus the skin/today/theme/front page (dont know what it is but it surely has to be one of those) of the htc rom and orange rom looks cool!
do you know where i can get that from?
i.e. these ones htc
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2007/08/10/HTC-P4550-Kaiser-Smartphone/p3)
and orange (where it says software)
(http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/07/htc_tytn_ii_review)
ps thanks for ur help and advice
im at work so it wont let me check the modaco website...but i will check it out when i get home

The T-Mobile ROM is about as near to the HTC one as an operator ROM is ever likely to get. The only piece of un-needed bloat was a trial version of F-Prot Antivirus; which takes a few seconds to uninstall. Even de-branding it is a pretty short job, as for once they haven't splashed pink everywhere.

The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
g

ripnetuk said:
The VarioIII rom from t-mob is actually very good... been using it for a few weeks, and feel no need to flash the 'proper' htc one...
tmob seem to have learnt to leave well alone... finally
g
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cheers for ur advise u guys
any tweaks in particular u would recommend i have seen the scha'p's advanced configuration tool im gonna use that...anything else?

The first tweak I'd recommend is Paul's Debrand that I mentioned in my previous post. Gets rid of a lot of the pink and switches back to nice Windows colours.
The Trusted Mobiles picture looks like it's using the Windows Default theme.
If you tap Start, Settings, Today then Windows Default, hit OK and return to the Today screen. Should look pretty similar.
Go back to that page again and tap the Items tab at the bottom. The giant widget with the clock is the HTC Home plugin. All I've got on my Today screen are that (modified) and the Calendar.
To modify the HTC Home plugin, head over to http://www.pocketemu.com/hhc-info.html and download the HTC Home Customizer. This is a fantastic app. Poke around the site, find the themes you want, then download, install and configure it.
The other biggie you'll want is the Kaiser Tweak. Have a read through that thread, but it's fairly self explanatory once you run it.
That should give you a start, anyway. Enjoy!

Is there a HOWTO or a tutorial somewhere?

Hey guys,
Sorry for the extreme noobness of this post, but I am completely lost here. It appears that ROMeOS 4.1 is the ROM to get. But then I read that you need to install HardSPL first, then you need to pick the right radio and install that, but you need to be sure that it is the right radio for you, etc. None of this makes any sense at all to someone who has never done this before. Will I lose all the apps I've installed when I do this? If so, what is the best/easiest way to back them up so I can reinstall them after the ROM update? I also read that you need to install a keyboard fix, a screen freeze fix, and extra apps that came originally on the device need to be downloaded and installed.
I guess what I'm asking is, how do I make this $650 piece of junk that HTC won't support (they refuse to give me ROMs for it since I bought it through Amazon) into a device that is worth using with some simple step-by-step instructions? The speed and unreliability of it in its stock form for this price is completely inexcusable. I am very ready to make some donations as well.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

Start here

Thank you so much Kareem! That pretty much answered all my questions. Maybe I'm blind, but I did not see a link to that particular wiki in the stickied thread about tutorials. I think there should be a sticky in this forum with a title: HELP! I'm a noob and I need to flash my ROMS! With that link included.
Thanks again, you rock!
Oh, and I do have one last question, what radio has had the most reliability with the ROMeOS 4.1?

If you are looking for a section dedicated to n00bs, check out GWENI, linked in my signature. It was written for n00bs, by a self-proclaimed n00b.

baldcyclops said:
Thank you so much Kareem! That pretty much answered all my questions. Maybe I'm blind, but I did not see a link to that particular wiki in the stickied thread about tutorials. I think there should be a sticky in this forum with a title: HELP! I'm a noob and I need to flash my ROMS! With that link included.
Thanks again, you rock!
Oh, and I do have one last question, what radio has had the most reliability with the ROMeOS 4.1?
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According to Hang Tuah's (the creator of ROMeOS) post in the dedicated thread here: "I personally tried NEON 1.58.25.17, KAIS 1.65.24.36 & KAIS 1.71.09.01".

Hi, the trickiest part of the bussiness is to do the HardSPL, which will allow you to flash any ROM or radio.
Then, if you do not want to complicate your life too much, flash one of the HTC WM 6.1 official ROMs.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Or pick a cooked ROM that has all included (i.e. not Lite ROMs), operating system, Office, Windows Live, and a radio firmware.

hardSPL install is not tricky but its the MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do. just follow the directions carefully and you will have no issues. Radios are personal preference BUT newer WM6.1 roms need the newer 1.65.xx.xx radios but again there is a whole thread explaining this also
enjoy your toy!

wow someone who posted with concern before bricking the device..and he did his homework as well he could before hand CHEERS!! As you'll quickly learn most noobs flash first, brick, then want the xda community to fix it without them having to do anything(like read). So I applaud you.

Heh. Thanks liquidfork. I'm pretty big into Linux and open source, so I know to read as much as I can find first and then attempt.
So, I did successfully flash ROMeOS 4.1 on my device after putting HardSPL 3.56 on it and the newest radio (forget the version offhand). It's blazing fast now. But, a small problem: When I try to restore my sprite backup, the phone will start up with the "bios" screen, but it just sits there and never boots. Now, Sprite backup complains that it needs a .sbu file that I can get from their website. I see nothing on their website about .sbu files. Is there any way to restore my stuff, or am I hosed? I do miss the HTC today screen and some of the utilities I had. I'd hate to have to roll back to an "official" ROM for this.
Thanks again for your help guys, this community is great.

Anyone? I would like to avoid reinstalling everything if at all possible. Thanks.

baldcyclops said:
Anyone? I would like to avoid reinstalling everything if at all possible. Thanks.
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You cannot restore Sprite Backups from ROM to ROM. It is designed to restore your files and settings when doing a hard reset of reflashing the same ROM.
Sprite Backup does have a ROM Upgrade feature, but I've yet to see it work.

Through experimentation, I figured as much. That's too bad. I've come to find that while the ROMeOS is quite a bit faster than the WM6 that came on the device, it is very spartan. I've gotten used to the little gadgets in the HTC roms, particularly their today screen, some of the settings, and some of the utilities. I think I'm going to flash with a shipped WM6.1 from HTC and see how it works, I will try doing a Sprite backup restore on that as well, but I'm not holding my breath that it will work. Is there a huge difference in speed between the shipped HTC ROM and a cooked ROM? Better yet, is there a cooked ROM that gives most or all of the HTC functionality but is faster?

baldcyclops said:
Through experimentation, I figured as much. That's too bad. I've come to find that while the ROMeOS is quite a bit faster than the WM6 that came on the device, it is very spartan. I've gotten used to the little gadgets in the HTC roms, particularly their today screen, some of the settings, and some of the utilities. I think I'm going to flash with a shipped WM6.1 from HTC and see how it works, I will try doing a Sprite backup restore on that as well, but I'm not holding my breath that it will work. Is there a huge difference in speed between the shipped HTC ROM and a cooked ROM? Better yet, is there a cooked ROM that gives most or all of the HTC functionality but is faster?
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The perfect ROM is like the perfect beer. Everyone has their own opinions and taste.
However... I will say this. It is better to find a fast rom and then search these forums for the appropriate cabs for those applications you can't do without.
Not only will you only have the ops you want, but I have all those cabs on a secure digital card... then you use sashimi to load them when you perform a flash...
Because once you have done a flash... you will be doing more...
As they say on the TV about golf weenies... these guys are good... and there is always a new ROM that looks marvy.

cyjeff said:
The perfect ROM is like the perfect beer. Everyone has their own opinions and taste.
However... I will say this. It is better to find a fast rom and then search these forums for the appropriate cabs for those applications you can't do without.
Not only will you only have the ops you want, but I have all those cabs on a secure digital card... then you use sashimi to load them when you perform a flash...
Because once you have done a flash... you will be doing more...
As they say on the TV about golf weenies... these guys are good... and there is always a new ROM that looks marvy.
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True, I can see that now. I think the main thing I'm missing that I can't live without is being able to click in the upper right on the today screen and stop running processes from there. Especially since with ROMeOS 4.1, going into the task manager has locked up my phone twice now. If I can figure out how to get that functionality back, I think I can live with the rest. Is that functionality in the HTC home CAB that is in the extended cabs for ROMeOS? I'll probably install the CAB anyhow just to see.

Download and install this cab I've attached.

Heres a link to AllTheWays 4Shaered pages he's one of the mods on here. It has all the applications you're looking for.
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5551593/20b4549a/sharing.html

Too many ROMS to choose from!

Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?

You probably can port a ROM from Raphael.

stoutseun said:
Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?
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Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!

dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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He could also look at -G-'s SE TL ROM. Gives about the same functionality as TF3D but is usable on daily basis

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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you forgot anryls roms

msd24200 said:
you forgot anryls roms
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Right, my bad! I guess I should have just said try them all! All the ROMs here are works of art!

dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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Or the ROM I'm currently using. Or just do like we did and try them, everyone's opinion here is definitely different. YMMV

flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep

stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!

dashmaster1000 said:
ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!
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There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety

stylez said:
There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety
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Yea, I get strange looks from my girl when I tell her I have been flashing all day!

Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?

NooWay said:
Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?
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95mb not free but overall right?
this because have 6mb poolpage with this way have more mb free.. but is not so fast than dynamic pagepool

There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.

To be honest, I've tried all Dutty's, L26, Hyperdragon, PDACorner, Garmin (3 editions) and I'm still unable to choose one !
When he was active Dutty was the best, but now all these ROMs are just beautiful, and I've been flashing for a couple of days, and still unable to make my choice.
It becomes frustrating at the end, because our Chefs are so great that they release a new ROM each week...
As someone said before (forgot who, sorry)
"You're like a kid in a candy shop".

asfoor said:
...and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
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Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.

stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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I always tend to flash that rom too, and then the cycle starts over again flashing over and over again. I can't go a weak without trying something different!
Jason

stoutseun said:
Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.
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I got my tilt about 3 months ago, and have been flashing constantly! Yet to find the right one for me! All of them are good, but not perfect for me. And I dont want to cook, cuz I am too lazy! So I will keep flashing, but finding a perfect ROM is never going to happen!!

asfoor said:
There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.
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I wouldn't completely classify myself in the first category, as I know quite what I want and I know it isn't there yet. I love M3D roms and I do enjoy packing it full of features and everything. I have run L26's M3D rom for a while, and I just tried -G-'s for a day yesterday. But then many times those roms have enough issues pop up that make the phone basically unusable, and then I will back track to either a M2D rom, or even a HTC Home rom just for speed, stability, and in the case of the HTC Home roms, flawless landscape support. Then after a week or two, I start looking at the M3D roms again, hoping that there have been some fixes and work arounds and I start trying it again, and the cycle goes again!
And for what you mentioned about wishing to put the previous rom on there...Norton Ghost would be a great product for these phones!
Jason

To ROM of not to ROM...

I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.

Well, sadly there is no ROM called as good ROM here. It all depends on what you use your phone for and where you live!
Try reading through ROM threads, and see what suits your needs. Best advise is "Keep reading and keep flashing!". Good luck.

try abusalza new ver. cook ROM either ultimate x2v8 wm6.5 or ultimate x2v9 wm6.5...
it look nice to my kaiser n run perfectly...

StoneyBK said:
I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.

hahaha..can't wait for wm7..

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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garringm said:
I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.
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I'm gonna say exactly the same if you happy with stock stick with it, if you want something more special and are happy to flash untill you find a custom ROM you want then join the flashers anonymous

I'ld go to say the same, if you're happy with stock ROM, then don't change.
BUT...
If you're frustrated with what stock ROM gives you (that happened with my permanently-freezing-Herald-stck-ROM till I flashed a good ROM there), then take a surf on the ROM Kaiser pages here at xda-dev's and then try to do all the steps ( hard-SPL, radio mod's, unlock if locked, etc. ) and then, flash the ROM you think is better for you (what are you asking to a device ? I'm using it to write, calculate, draw, sketching, photo, wifi nav', gps in the forest, let my daughter play... - maybe I'ld chose a different ROM to play games or watch videos)
I think almost every ROM here is "better" than the stock ROM and you'll find a good WM6.5 if you're searching speed, reliability, good RAM... and this will give you a loooooong Kaiser life.
But, as Denco7 says, this means you are always asking "more" and more and more.

StoneyBK said:
I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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I HIGHLY recommend that you go here and read.

Don't do it!

Ok, thanks...
...for the advice. I'll stay with what I have its worked for me and does what i want/need.

StoneyBK
Make backup and give yourself a try with new rom`s. if you dislike - you always can return to were your begin. I believe you underestimate this possibility of kaiser.

Go for it!
I was in the same place you are, wondering if I should flash, and why. But, If I'm going to spend this much time with a device, why not pretty it up and make it a LOT more functional. The new 6.5 roms are beautiful, more functional, and easier to use, especially compared to the butt ugly 6.1, and if you're not going to buy a new device with WM7 on it then I say flash away man, you can get so much more out of your Kaiser. Have a look at TPC Elite V9. Enjoy.

StoneyBK and Marckc2
Yes, having a stock ROM capable for your needs, is enough. But if you begin to flash, and to investigate, you'll maybe acquire more and more acknowledgement about the TyTNII and WM, so that you'll be here answering and maybe cooking (and posting) your own ROMs.

Amazing work being done
It depends on what you want. I picked up my Tilt on ebay, because I wanted a PDA/phone (w/wifi). I'm a little bit of a tweaker, and wanted to make the most of this phone. I ended up here, read throught the newbie stuff, worked up the steam to flash a hard SPL, then flashed Sakajati's Hyper IV Rhodium, and was amazed; fast, functional, stable, with some flash as well. The only problem is being content. . . the developments keep ramping up. I think my tilt is farther advanced than most smart phones currently offered on ATT's upgrades. (maybe ignorance is bliss. . but I don't think so) There appear to be a number of chefs doing amazing work. Look around, read the comments. If you take the next step and like it . . . buy the chef some coffee. . .