Hero or the Backflip - General Topics

Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I have joined because I have many questions to ask haha.
I'm currently looking to buy a new cellphone.
Right now I am looking at the HTC Hero or the Moto Backflip, but I am also open to suggestions.
What I'm looking for is a solid phone that would last me a good 2-3 years, with a touchscreen and wifi are musts.
I have heard that Android is probably the best OS out there, so i would highly prefer it.
A qwerty keyboard would be nice since i like to use MSN on it. However, it's not a must have.
What i usually do on the phone is just browsing some web pages, youtube, msn, and facebook using wifi.
I do not want a data plan that is why I am looking to buy the phone unlocked on ebay.
My maximum budget is 400 dollars.
Now my question is,
I heard that the hero is a great cellphone, and I am willing to pay an extra 100$ over the backflip's price to get it if it is indeed a great phone.
Would you guys suggest me get the hero? or to get the backflip that has a qwerty keyboard? I have heard that the backflip will have android 2.1 on it, is the update out already??
Or if you guys can suggest another good phone that would be great too!
The price on ebay:
$400 for hero
$300 for Backflip

Please give me some suggestions!
I have read in another thread someone said the Hero is outdated already???
Hasn't it only been out for about half a year only?
If it is outdated, what phone should I go for that is within my price range??
thanks

Hero 100%. Better design, HTC, support, not crippled, gorgeous looking, the list goes on. The backflip has no support from here, and personally I think it's basically the GSM version of the devour. Ugly, boring, no support, and you never see em'

Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
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greengoldmello said:
Please get neither if you are willing to spend 400. Both phones are a bit outdated and will have a hard time holding up 2-3 years. Get a nexus one or a Droid (milestone ) for that price
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Thanks for your opinion!
I found that the milestone might be a good option since it's within my price range and has a physicial keyboard.
The $600 nexus ones on ebay are a bit beyond what I am willing to spend haha.
So will the Motorola Milestone be the best choice if I have $400?
How's the processor??

Motorola Milestone is an ok choice, but you should try it out first. I would rather stay with HTC devices.

What HTC device would you recommend me to get then ?

Hey, so I'm looking into buying a new phone and the now I'm down to the hero and the backflip. I have never had an android phone before so the phone I decide on can't be too complicated. I'm 14 and I text a lot so the phone has to be able to type easily and fast. Please give me advice if you have experience with one or both of these phones.

Is there any other advices?
I am buying my new handset soon!

+1 for the n1 as already suggested above. You can also look at the HTC Aria or Samsung Captivate.

Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...

As it is one of your original options, I will give my opinion on it : The hTC Hero
Had one of these for a while (by my standards) for now, and its a pretty solid device. Okay, it isn't the fastest processor, and it has likely recieved its last official rom, but i love it
Have just got Éclair running on it, and there are noticeable differences since android 1.5, although no live wallpapers (not that i see this as much of a loss, as I don't tend to just sit and stare at my home screen, i try to use the phone)
There are plenty of apps for it, plenty of custom roms, and a sizeable (albeit not the biggest) user base on xda.
The build quality is pretty decent - it has withstanded my daughter standing, jumping, chewing, and dribbling all over it, so it has passed that test for me.
In my opinion, the downside is the camera - there is no flash. But even then, it is not the worst camera I have had on a phone.
Hope that helps

If you are on ATT and you have $400 you should go with the HTC Aria you can get it off contract for $350. Even though its only a mid level phone it is a much better and newer phone then the Hero and the Backflip.

DangerPanda said:
Unfortunately the Nexus one and the other ones you suggested are somewhat beyond my price range $400 is really my maximum. Unless I can get a used one somewhere ...
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you can find a nexus one around here for around $400..and you can buy the unlocked/off-contract HTC Aria and Samsung Captivate for $350 each.

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Please recommend a phone to me...

I have had the iphone 2g for a while now and would like to get a new phone... I am on USA Tmobile and would like a touch screen phone which has 3G capabilities (with Tmobile USA)...
I have tried the HD2, but I returned it because of its lack of quality games (especially with that nice Hardware you might think it has some games to work with it, but no -sadly).... I also tried the Nexus One, but I cannot seem to justify it is worth almost $600 especially when the Multitouch is not as good as my old beat up iPhone 2G (the N1 gets confused when you have two fingers on the same axis)....
so now I was thinking about getting a G1, but I cannot find one for under $100 in decent condition... I would like an android phone, or a WM phone capable of a nice android port.... I am not looking to spend too much because it will be a used phone (most likely) and I will probably get another phone next year (hopefully there will be some decent phones which live up to my expectations AND would be compatible with Tmobile USA...
I was thinking of getting a G1 with a cracked screen (but still working fine other than that) for around 60$....do any of you think that is worth it?...I see new screens for $35, and I know the whole LCD is not bad if it still works then it must just be the digitizer so maybe I can get that cheaper....I am pretty sure I can repair it myself, but then again it might be fine enough with the crack since I will change phones anyways....
Any suggestions or recommendations / advice ?
Thanks in advance....
I would say either the Nexus or the Incredible.
The nexus is going to be having a update that makes it run 450% faster (No thats not a typo)
But the incredible is also very very nice. Its really up to you.
EDIT: Do not buy that g1. =)
Aznneedlovetoo said:
I would say either the Nexus or the Incredible.
The nexus is going to be having a update that makes it run 450% faster (No thats not a typo)
But the incredible is also very very nice. Its really up to you.
EDIT: Do not buy that g1. =)
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see the thing is I am looking for a USA Tmobile compatible phone (stated in OP), so Incredible = no go...next I said I tried the nexus one and I do not want it because I cannot stand that it cannot out perform my old iPhone 2g on multitouch (also stated in OP).... so I was looking for something cheap for the time being, until next year or so when some new phone comes out...
Thanks for your suggestions though!....
so on those lines... I think the g1 is my best bet right now....
please advise me with your insights
erebusting said:
see the thing is I am looking for a USA Tmobile compatible phone (stated in OP), so Incredible = no go...next I said I tried the nexus one and I do not want it because I cannot stand that it cannot out perform my old iPhone 2g on multitouch (also stated in OP).... so I was looking for something cheap for the time being, until next year or so when some new phone comes out...
Thanks for your suggestions though!....
so on those lines... I think the g1 is my best bet right now....
please advise me with your insights
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Uhhh the Incredible is out for the US. (Ive played with one, And i live in Hawaii.)
The nexus one is still fairly new and when Android 2.2 comes out it's probably gonna out perform any HTC phone hands down.
I have a g1 and I love it and i highly suggest. It has never let me down. But it does feel a bit outdated.
Aznneedlovetoo said:
Uhhh the Incredible is out for the US. (Ive played with one, And i live in Hawaii.)
The nexus one is still fairly new and when Android 2.2 comes out it's probably gonna out perform any HTC phone hands down.
I have a g1 and I love it and i highly suggest. It has never let me down. But it does feel a bit outdated.
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see the incredible is not available for GSM networks... so that is where it fails for me because I do not want to switch companies right now at least
now as for the nexus one -it is a hardware problem I am referring to...it has a synaptic multitouch sensor which limits it permanently (no software update will solve this)...therefore I am just waiting for a new iteration of one of those or something new all together (even wm 7 may do...we will see though)
Now so I guess that leaves me with options like the tilt(s), g1, mytouch (I prefer really not to get this though), or the touch pro 2 (overpriced)...
any ideas ? I guess the g1 is the way to go for me ... I may get one with a broken screen, change the screen and the housing and even get a new trackball...it would be clean and would also not be more than about 120 or so....which doesn't seem too bad considering it would be in like new condition (hopefully)....

Need help in choosing my first Android Phone

I've narrowed it down to two phones that are within my budget,
The HTC Hero which I was planning to get for 160 pounds (refurbished) from the three store and getting them to unlock it and;
The Acer Liquid which I can get for 211 pounds from TotalPda.
Specs wise, I really like the liquid. In fact, the only thing that's stopping me from getting it is the fact that it's an Acer product and I'm worried about it breaking or dying after a few months. I require a phone that will last a while (atleast six months, i guess). If possible i'd like to hear from some of you folks who've had the phone for a while, and what your opinion is of it. I want to pick a phone up while I'm still in the UK as these same phones would be much more expensive back home. Another reason why I require a phone that will probably last a while, as sending it back is not going to be an option.
I'm coming from a 'dumb' phone and when I think about it, i probably don't really require a smartphone. But I love gadgets, and android seems amazing. Most I forsee myself using the phone for is making calls, sending texts, light browsing (no data plan, so just wifi) and reading comics if that's possible.
So what do you guys reckon, now that the Liquid's been out for a while would you recommend it? Is it worth the extra dough? Is it going to turn into a paper weight with a single drop (as I've been hearing)? Should I just take the safe route and go for the Hero?
Welcome to forums
As for personal experience I would choose an HTC device
And continuing the trend orb3000 started.. I'd recommend the HTC Desire out of personal experience.. Just because it is the best Android device to date.. at least in Europe Or you can wait till October or so till the Desire HD comes out.. though dont mark my word there.. as it is only a rumour as to when it is coming out..
HTC Desire is about twice as expensive as his current budget.
It is indeed but i think it is a very good phone to keep for a long period as he wants.. but if you think that his budget is close to the prices he mentioned then yes.. i suppose it is a no-go for him :/
anyway.. if you really want a good phone to keep for at least 2 years, the HTC Desire is a very solid choice in my opinion
Or you can check out the HTC Wildfire.. which costs far less than the Desire and it is pretty good despite the inferior CPU..
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Get the Hero, 160 is a good deal from store. My android life also started with Hero
Dont know how much they cost you to unlock it, but u can purchase an unlock code from ebay for about 7 quid

[Q] Which phone to purchase

Hey guys,
I've been following xda-developers for last few months and it totally rocks.
Now I've been using Sony ericsson w950i (unlocked) until now.
Been thinking of moving to smart phone.
Now I'm confused, I don't care about carrier (though using ATT for now)
Here r choices: 1. Evo 2. DroidX 3. xperia X10
I don't want an iphone and I can't purchase Nexus One (which I would have if I had enough money :-/)
Anyway so here are criteria for phone:
1. Can be rooted, I like cynogenmod and I may hardly use original android
Here r few of my assumptions (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)
I can't use proprietary UIs if I put cynogen (it doesn't matter but I wanna confirm)
Evo is my ultimate choice but heard battery sucks (what about spare battery solution ?), How severe is battery issue?
Please feel free to provide ur opinion about other phones as well. I may eventually end up purchasing Evo still I want some experienced opinions
Thanks
Evo is a great phone. It IS starting to get old. Perhaps wait till christmas to see what new phones HTC brings out?
THe X10 is outdated and will most likely only ever see android 2.1 so Id steer clear of it. In fact, I dont intend on buying any more SE phones but thats just me. .
The droid x seems amazing, can be rooted but its quite big in hand (but i suppose youre looking at the EVO so thats similar )
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy S phones? including the AT&T captivate?
They can be rooted, unlocked, will certainly see cyanogen mod development and because there are sooo many of them around now both locally and internationally (unlike droid x and evo), there will be lots of development for them. Specs wise, they are the top gun.
Personally, id wait a bit and see what comes around the corner. If you still want what youve listed here, youll get a better deal seeing as many will flock to the new devices
Cheers!
I love the Evo. It's my mini tiny PC. Battery wise, well it does juice it up quite much...but then again I am constantly on my fone so I got Ian charges, dock for home, n extra battery as well.
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Thanks guys,
As ozy pointed out waiting till Christmas/new year would be best possible option even for me, however don't want to renew my contract with ATT for one year just for that (will certainly look for something though)
And about Samsung phones I'm bit skeptic (fragile and get heated -- well thats 5-6 years back experience, never used it again so I'm not saying they r bad however I'm just being doubtful, though amoled screens r worth checking out)
And thanks anani exactly thats how I'm planning to use (though its on internet forever than on phone) I would appreciate if u can point out battery accessories links
lengthy bump..
If you are happy with AT&T I would get the Captivate. I have an Evo, love it, but my wife gets her phone through work so is stuck with AT&T. She recently upgraded from the Iphone, which she always hated, to the Samsung captivate. I have rooted it (simple compared to the Evo) and done a few mods, got rid of AT&T's market censorship, enabled side loading, and got rid of all the AT&T bloatware, and replaced most of the supplied apps with better ones from the market.
Running it side by side with my Evo I have to say, while I like the Evo better, but it has some advantages. The screen is much better looking, it has slightly more responsive touch input than the Evo, and Touchwiz is a less bloated UI than Sense. On the downside, the only two things I can find to complain about with it is that the bottom buttons are not as responsive as the Evo's, and the GPS on it takes a long time to lock and isn't as sensitive as the Evo's is. I am working on improving the GPS now though with some success. It will also be getting Froyo within the next few weeks, and rumor is the button issue may be addressed with the update.
Overall though, I like the captivate, especially since the phone call quality is really good, it is light weight and seems to be built very well. Also the screen fps isn't capped at 30 fps like the Evo is. If I was on AT&T that is what I would get.
You don't even need to think about it
HTC Desire with OLED mon ...
Thanks wfrandy and seals,
I'm kinda annoyed with at&t network at my place, most of the time I've had complains from friends saying "I tried your phone for whole day" and etc plus I'm not really in for data usage cap. Thats the main reason I'm hanging on my old phone else I could have renewed my contract by now.
But yea Captivate seems nice and Samsung strategy to make phones as open as possible is also tempting.
And about Desire - is it available with any carrier? I thought desire is not available in US market
hmm,
So I've a deal for htc droid incredible, verizon is giving it for free.
What are your reviews? I liked phone the only downside to the phones we were comparing seems to be 3.7" screen and no 4g connectivity
Please let me know if anyone have used the phone
Thanks

[Q] Buying Advice - Android Phones (North America)

Hi All,
I'm just looking to pick up a new Android phone. What are the best models out there in US / Canada?
I'll be comfortable doing basic to moderate "improvements" *cough* hacks *cough* on any device and am basically just looking for the best phone that will let me do the following:
Jail-break
tether
develop my own apps and test on
Skype
I'll be looking to buy from Canada OR US in the next few weeks. Not worried about cost.
Thanks and talk soon!
try Motorola Atrix4g or HTC Inspire4g/Evo4g. all are androids and the jailbreak in this type of phone is called ROOT.
Ah... "root"! Still getting used to the lingo. Thanks for the suggestions.
What are your thoughts on the forthcoming HTC EVO 3D? It's gimicky, but also looks like a really solid device to me...
Cellphone technology is really hard to keep up with; waiting usually isn't a very good idea, because you'll end up continuously waiting to make up your mind (what with how fast new and improved phones release).
BUT this is a situation where you should wait just a little. The dual core phones are starting to make their place in the market. The Samsung Galaxy S2 looks like it's going to be stellar, and the EVO 3D looks pretty solid too (though I will admit I'm more inclined towards the EVO 3D, considering I love my EVO so much).
The HTC Sensation looks to be quite promising as well.
And I read this week about quad core but doubt that will be available at any reasonable price within the next 12 months. (I'd guess 2-3 years but just my opinion.)
Agree in general with the post about waiting being an endless game but if you can get a used phone and operate it with your carrier, that may give you more time until some new models hit later this year.
D'accord, when the first att adroid came i wanted it so bad(moto Backflip) but i didnt buy it then the samsung galaxy was my next option and the same i couldnt get it, until finally came the moto atrix which i my opinion is better than the other 2 and almost like an iphone...
dm5530 said:
And I read this week about quad core but doubt that will be available at any reasonable price within the next 12 months. (I'd guess 2-3 years but just my opinion.)
Agree in general with the post about waiting being an endless game but if you can get a used phone and operate it with your carrier, that may give you more time until some new models hit later this year.
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[Q] Hello , Need phone choice advice

Hello XDA
Im Mac
My dog's name is Mikey
I'm new to the whole android scene , and i was interesting in purchasing a phone.
At the moment i have the choice between
- Motorola Milestone / Brand New
- Htc Hero - T-Mobile G2 Touch / Used 3 Months
- T-Mobile G1 / Used 1 Month
I was wondering , which phone do you guys think will be the best one for me, knowing i will be fooling around with them (rooting and etc)
I like the physical keyboard and having a fast phone. But if the hero is the best out of all three then i can get used to it.
What are there pro's and con's in your eyes.
Help me out abit.
Thanks alot XDA people
Well first of all. The Hero and Milestone both have a 5.0 MP camera. The Milestone has a better processor then the Hero which will make a difference after you root the phone. The HTC Dream isn't even worth mentioning in my opinion. Both its RAM and processor are very low, making it slow out of the box. To be 100% honest, I wouldn't go with any of these choices in phones.
FearedSkills said:
Well first of all. The Hero and Milestone both have a 5.0 MP camera. The Milestone has a better processor then the Hero which will make a difference after you root the phone. The HTC Dream isn't even worth mentioning in my opinion. Both its RAM and processor are very low, making it slow out of the box. To be 100% honest, I wouldn't go with any of these choices in phones.
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Well
They are the 3 that are in my price range at the moment.
I can only spend 160 on a phone, so i gotta squeeze every tiny dollar i can into performance on a phone
I gotta be honest man, the 2.0+ updates to android have added a lot of wonderful things, and I'm not sure how well they would run if you root and rom'd them, and if you stuck with the stock firmware, a lot of great things about android won't be available to you....and that is frustrating as hell IMO.
My vote would be the Hero, but I always tell people if you are gonna go android, spend the money for a good, solid, FAST phone, because it can make or break the experience.
Thanks Alot
Im gonna go check them out one by one today.
Im really gunna look for the best performance once rooted.
Dude if you have $160 to spend then wait a bit and save up to $200 total then get a nice new GOOD phone. Or find one on craigslist or something... if you want to have a good experience you want something with good hardware, as in a 1ghz processor, 512mb ram, etc.. I got my phone that has those specs, a Samsung Mesmerize, for $200 with a 2 year contract. Something like that is your best bet, save up the money for it and you will not be disappointed.
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I already have a contract.
I'm using my sim card to insert into another phone
If you go to radioshack, they have the HTC duplicate of the sprints EVO 4G for $30. If I were you, I would get that phone hands down. Also, AT&T are coming out with their own 3D phone here soon to combat with the EVO 3D. Probably could wait for that even.
I like the option ' My Dog '

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