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OK, so the GPS issue aside, I've encountered some random other problems with my Captivate. I'm JH2 with the SuperRooter tool installed. Some of these are actual problems, some are just gripes.
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
3 - Most of the time when I unplug the USB cable the icon still shows in the status bar, and when I click to turn off USB it still stays there, and only a reboot of the phone fixes it.
4 - I hate how the ring starts off soft then increases in volume, it's dumb that we can't change that.
5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
6 - I have other random wierdness from time to time, like tonight internet connectivity over wifi just stopped working, then started working again an hour later for no reason.
7 - The only apps I miss are my GuitarToolkit, the DrumKit app, and the i.TV app which was an all in one tv guide and let me schedule my Tivo recordings...
8 - ...and of course we all know the GPS sucks!
I have about 3 days left to decide if I want to keep this device or just fork over what's left of my sould and buy the iPhone 4 (I've been a 3GS user for about a year and have been generally happy once I got it jailbroken). Most of this stuff individually isn't too bad, but put it all together and throw in the GPS debacle and, well I shouldn't have to justify to myself WHY I want to keep a phone...
AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
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You should look into K9 mail. It's an awesome app and let's you have multiple identities ala Thunderbird so that you can send from your other email addresses w/o having to set up separate accounts on your phone. Very slick program, can move between folders, has archive, junk, etc.
I don't know about the others. I took my Captivate and returned it, but passed on buying a 32GB iPhone 4 because I know one of two things:
1) If the GPS and lag are fixed and/or GPS is fixed and we get Froyo I'm back to a Captivate or,
2) There will be another upcoming phone that is more open than Uncle Stevie's vision of what he wants us to do with a phone.
Having been an iPhone 3G and then 3GS user (yep, went back to my 3GS but only for 6 weeks or so) I can say that having remembered what real multitasking is, real choice is and real options with software - I ain't goin' back. YMMV.
I'll be willing to bet that number 1 is due to your finger on the notification bar. If you slide your finger across it, the brightness will change.
2. Bug with Google Voice, not a hardware problem.
4. Ringtone starts quietly so you have a chance to catch it before it gets obnoxious. It only stays quiet for half a second, and if your phone is ringing, half a second isn't going to make or break the call.
I had a similar problem with Google Voice. I just deactivated the service for my phone number then reactivated a few minutes later, haven't had any problems since.
I'm not sure if that'll fix it for you, but you might want to give it a try--just go to your voicemail settings on the Google Voice website.
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4. Ringtone starts quietly so you have a chance to catch it before it gets obnoxious. It only stays quiet for half a second, and if your phone is ringing, half a second isn't going to make or break the call.
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Maybe, but I would agree that the option to turn it off should be available.
I bet the brightness problem is because you can change the brightness by sliding your finger across the notification bar. It's actually a very nice feature when you get used to it.
If I were you,i would go through the google voice mail set up again. I haven't had any problems with it at all.
Also, my ringtone does not start out quiet and then gradually increase in volume. Is it possible that the ringed you have tried are just recorded that way?
Thanks for the tip ob the brightness setting.
As far as I know the ringtone thing applies to every captivate so either yours is going it and you just don't notice it or you've got a special firmware or something
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AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
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I also missed my visual voicemail. I've found that YouMail is an effective if not perfect replacement (my only real gripe is it is a separate app not integrated into the phone app).
That's too bad. I literally have none of those problems.
By far my biggest problem has been GPS, like others. However, with JH2, left all at stock settings I actually have good accuracy - even after 3 days - google nav has been right on. I used cardiotrainer and went for a walk and it was again completely on - better than my old Nokia N79, better than 5m accuracy.
Initial lock times were slow a bit over a minute (default has skyhook off). I put skyhook on yesterday, so I am interested to see if my improved accuracy after initial lock continues. What I have found is that all the suggested chances in the GPS fix might help initial locks, but went to crap after a day or so - and never really had the accuracy while moving. JH2 at all stock has lower initial lock speed, but must have a gps fw algorithm change leading to much better navigation / moving accuracy.
Bottom line - I will be shocked if Samsung doesn't have a 100% GPS fix next month (or with Froyo).
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5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
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I dont think you know what you're talking about in reference to Hotmail. I have a hotmail account and when you go to the browser and login to your hotmail account, all the options are there. Right in the middle of the screen is a "More" button, just click that and a list flies out and scroll down and "Move to" and the list of custom folders is right there. It has full functionality of the desktop site.
If you're trying to use the built-in email app to work with hotmail, dont. It wont work. You have to use hotmail through the web browser. Hotmail has a great mobile website.
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I had a similar problem with Google Voice. I just deactivated the service for my phone number then reactivated a few minutes later, haven't had any problems since.
I'm not sure if that'll fix it for you, but you might want to give it a try--just go to your voicemail settings on the Google Voice website.
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Yes, to activate google voice for your phone you have to go to the google voice website and follow the instructions there. You have to enter your phone number and what mobile carrier you are using and then it gives you a string of numbers and characters that you must dial from your mobile phone to tell AT&T to forward your missed calls to a google voice server/phone number.
Do that and it should work fine. I did and have had zero problems from google voicemail.
If you have brightness on automatic it will change screen brightness based on light in room. If you go outside it will turn brightness up. If your in dark room it will turn brightness all the way down. You can test by covering sensor on fron with your finger and see if brightness drops. If you dont like it turn off in settings.
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AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
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Make sure auto-brightness is turned off...also, like someone else mentioned, the notification bar lets you adjust the brightness by sliding across it horizontally while the gray bar is showing. Neat feature once you get used to it, but it also confused the hell out of me when I accidentally slid it. Best thing I've found is to just flick the notification bar up and down quickly (vs dragging it all the way up or down).
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2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
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Assuming you've set it up correctly (which it sounds like you have, since it does go to GV voicemail sometimes), the problem does lie on GV's end. They make it wait 25 seconds before GV will actually pick it up, so your carrier voicemail will intercept it if it's set to pick up sooner than 25 seconds. Until GV lets us decide how long it takes for it to pick up, you can sort of fix this with the following workaround:
1. On your phone, dial *#61# and click Send.
2. Some information should be displayed: number that the calls are being forwarded to and the delay before the forwarding engages (should be your gv #)
3. Dial **61*+1xxxyyyzzzz*11*30# and hit Send. +1xxxyyyzzzz is your GV #, 30 is the delay in seconds. The delay can be set in 5 second increments, 30 is maximum
4. Dial *#61# to verify that the new settings are active.
Unfortunately this means that it will take >25 seconds for it to send to GVoicemail, but it does reliably work.
As for the GPS, I'm optimistic that the firmware fix that Samsung has leaked will solve that and our lag issues, but I can see how that would be frustrating to some who want it to work now (as well they should). Sorry to hear that you're having gripes with the phone, but hopefully these solutions will alleviate some of your issues.
AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
OK, so the GPS issue aside, I've encountered some random other problems with my Captivate. I'm JH2 with the SuperRooter tool installed. Some of these are actual problems, some are just gripes.
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
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This is a feature. They built in a brightness slider when you draw the notification tray down a tiny bit and slide your finger from left (dim) to right (brightest)
ah sorry, didn't see the answer already. my bad
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I dont think you know what you're talking about in reference to Hotmail. I have a hotmail account and when you go to the browser and login to your hotmail account, all the options are there. Right in the middle of the screen is a "More" button, just click that and a list flies out and scroll down and "Move to" and the list of custom folders is right there. It has full functionality of the desktop site.
If you're trying to use the built-in email app to work with hotmail, dont. It wont work. You have to use hotmail through the web browser. Hotmail has a great mobile website.
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No offense, but your assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about is way off...
Clearly, I'm aware that you can manage folders using the web interface in Hotmail, otherwise I wouldn't have known how to create the folder initially that isn't showing up in the standard mail application. I thought it was obvious I was walking about the capabilities of the phone, as in the built in email application...
If I have to use the web interface to manage my email then what's the point of even having an email application?
The email application gives me almost the exact same functionality with Hotmail as it does with Gmail, I think you're mistaken that Hotmail won't work in the default email app. The only thing I get with Gmail that I don't with Hotmail is access to view what's in my extra folders, which really doesn't help because I can't do anything with items in those folders like move them around.
AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
No offense, but your assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about is way off...
Clearly, I'm aware that you can manage folders using the web interface in Hotmail, otherwise I wouldn't have known how to create the folder initially that isn't showing up in the standard mail application. I thought it was obvious I was walking about the capabilities of the phone, as in the built in email application...
If I have to use the web interface to manage my email then what's the point of even having an email application?
The email application gives me almost the exact same functionality with Hotmail as it does with Gmail, I think you're mistaken that Hotmail won't work in the default email app. The only thing I get with Gmail that I don't with Hotmail is access to view what's in my extra folders, which really doesn't help because I can't do anything with items in those folders like move them around.
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I 100% agree with you about moving email. That is one of my biggest gripes too. Also HTC DOES have this integrated into their mail program, and also folder hierarchy. I think it is just poor that Google didn't integrate these right into the stock mail app, and also that Samsung didn't in theirs.
I think not being able to take MMS photos vertically is annoying. I was used to it on the iPhone; I think vertical or "tall" images look better for Facebook mobile uploads, and I can't find a way to take them so they don't end up sideways in the MMS or mobile upload. Any ideas?
Whats reassuring is that almost all of your complaints can be address through a software update.
Its rumored that the GPS fix + Froyo update will be launched simultaneously or very close together.
I haven't seen any threads like this so decided it would probably be a good idea to get one going of all the minor gripes we have or bugs that we've encountered as I've already seen a few. I'm not sure if HTC do have a researcher scouring the net for threads like these to try and find out what the general masses think, but one can only hope...
+ LED notification is absolutely rubbish.
My phone is next to my Hero today as the numbers are being ported and I just received an email to my Gmail. With the phone lying vertically under my screen I could barely see the flash from the Sensation (to the extent that I'd already missed one mail) whereas the Hero was flashing away in all it's beauty to let me know.
+ Phone rebooted when taking a photo.
I've only taken a few pics on here, but after taking one of the dog last night with the flash on, the phone instantly turned off and completely rebooted. Maybe it's a one off, but it definitely wasn't good! Will have to keep an eye out for this happening again.
+ Trace seems a bit hit and miss.
I used Swype on my Hero so am assuming I just need to learn how to use the new one. I'll have to work on that one myself although it may be a case of training the phone not to pick out the most obscure word possible when all I want is to spell "hello".
I haven't really used it enough to spot any others, but I'm intrigued as to what other issues people seem to be finding.
...and on a side note I'm really, really missing the trackball that's on my Hero. Selecting text is so sensitive and I keep catching the wrong bit. I feel quite sad letting the little guy go. He's served me so well!! It does feel like a toy now when I go back to it. Lo-res and chunky!
Good call, I was thinking of such a thread myself.
+ LED notification is absolutely rubbish
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Completely agree.
+ Phone rebooted when taking a photo.
+ Trace seems a bit hit and miss.
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Can't say I've had either of these. Have taken a lot of photos and about half a dozen 1080p videos, everything seems very stable.
Allow me to add a bug to the list:
+ No shutter button or menu options on camera.
If you have a lock pattern set up, dragging the camera icon into the ring on the lockscreen results in the camera app loading, but there is no user interface. You can see the camera's view, but there is no shutter button or options or anything else to interact with. However, the camera app is fine if accessed as normal from the home screen or app drawer.
Is trace supposed to learn from your usage to better predict words in the future?
I agree on the trackball, I used to have a HTC Magic and selecting text is a lot harder now!
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+ No shutter button or menu options on camera.
If you have a lock pattern set up, dragging the camera icon into the ring on the lockscreen results in the camera app loading, but there is no user interface. You can see the camera's view, but there is no shutter button or options or anything else to interact with. However, the camera app is fine if accessed as normal from the home screen or app drawer.
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I had noticed this; I guess it will be fixed in future updates.
Calendar is not sync with Google calendar. Sync setting is on, mail, contact, Picasa, calendar are selected. Only calendar is not working. Is this a bug or Google's problem?
Anyone also this problem? How to fix it? Thanks.
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+ No shutter button or menu options on camera.
If you have a lock pattern set up, dragging the camera icon into the ring on the lockscreen results in the camera app loading, but there is no user interface. You can see the camera's view, but there is no shutter button or options or anything else to interact with. However, the camera app is fine if accessed as normal from the home screen or app drawer.
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This is quite annoying. I really like the idea of quick access to the camera, if it actually worked.
I don't have this issue with the camera. I did change some of the shortcuts though and may have re-added the camera one myself. Try that, see if it fixes it.
Edit: oh wait, I see what you mean. Only happens when you have a pattern lock...
Trace is useless. I used Shapewriter on my Nexus and it was amazing, but keyboards don't scale well to higher res. Plus it's been off the market for a year, so I'm not holding out much hope for a qHD version.
Vodafone ROM - Has no rosie launcher (like stock rom), I dont actually use the pattern lock, but i have seen the error with the camera launcher, this is a problem too, possibly we may see a fix for this and others with a minor update.
The LED is rubbish, actually borderline pointless. I've not seen it flash once today despite receiving about 5-6 emails. Maybe if the phone is actually facing you in a holder then it would show, but otherwise it may as well not exist.
For some reason my signal seems pretty sketchy on the Sensation. I usually have full at home, but if i'm holding it sometimes I get nothing
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For some reason my signal seems pretty sketchy on the Sensation. I usually have full at home, but if i'm holding it sometimes I get nothing
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glad im not the only one then. might be the sim. im not a vodafone expert as im a new customer but everyone at vodafone are shocked when i say i dont get a good signal. dont want to take phone back or should i say i dont want to change network.
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glad im not the only one then. might be the sim. im not a vodafone expert as im a new customer but everyone at vodafone are shocked when i say i dont get a good signal. dont want to take phone back or should i say i dont want to change network.
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Just hope its not another iPhone problem.
"Urmm sorry your holding your phone wrong, hence signal problems.."
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glad im not the only one then. might be the sim. im not a vodafone expert as im a new customer but everyone at vodafone are shocked when i say i dont get a good signal. dont want to take phone back or should i say i dont want to change network.
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I'm having no issues with signal /:
Just tried holding it in a ton of different ways, stays constant at 2 bars of HSPA in my living room.
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glad im not the only one then. might be the sim. im not a vodafone expert as im a new customer but everyone at vodafone are shocked when i say i dont get a good signal. dont want to take phone back or should i say i dont want to change network.
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I had issues with reception on Tmobile US with another phone. Turned out to be an old SIM. Replacement fixed the issue. Just my 2c worth
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Calendar is not sync with Google calendar. ...
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Try adding an event to the phone calendar before syncing.
Dave
Sound with video
Has anyone experienced a problem where sound from video cuts out after a short time?
I'm having the issue when playing through the speaker and headphones, on different files and when using different media players.
If I forward the video on slightly the sound returns, almost as if the sound output is going to sleep with inactivity.
Another bug, added few apps on homepage, those apps icon are changed to Android green icon after restarted the phone.
Maybe this problem is caused by moved apps to SD card. I don't know.
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everyday48 said:
Another bug, added few apps on homepage, those apps icon are changed to Android green icon after restarted the phone.
Maybe this problem is caused by moved apps to SD card. I don't know.
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That would be the case. When you create a shortcut it creates a link to a resource on the phone. When you move that resource you get the default icon instead.
Bratag said:
I had issues with reception on Tmobile US with another phone. Turned out to be an old SIM. Replacement fixed the issue. Just my 2c worth
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thanks. hope it is the sim. my t-mobile sim is great.
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Try adding an event to the phone calendar before syncing.
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It still not sync. When I create new event on phone, it only showed 'pc sync'. In calendar setting, it also only showed pc sync. There is nothing about Google calendar.
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Using Sensation for 2 weeks now.
Below are few annoying things that i want to get rid off.
1) Loudspeaker volume for calls is very low. I cant use it. (For music, its passable though)
2) Contacts scroll - usually when i scroll on the right side, the contacts scroll based on alphabets. it does not work anymore.
3) Photo of Contacts appears blurry in the call screen no matter how good of a photo you assign to a contact.
4) The incoming call number font is so small. This is pathetic. I expect it bigger and catchy because thats what i will be looking for in a incoming call screen.
5) The overall lag (with 1.2 ghz dual core and 756MB Ram, i was expecting the touch and scroll experience close to iphone.. but its not.. its same old sense + android experience.. this will never change???)
6) the app drawer bounce effect when it reaches the end is choppy.. the bouncing effect in overall is choppy.. it simply don't work.
7) no unicode support for complex languages, this is a deal breaker for me - (iphone do this best. my language is 'tamil')
8) e-mails in html format is not showing up in 'overview mode'. Its always zoomed out. I am not sure if there is an option. Compare a HTML e-mail in iphone and sensation, you will see what i am talking about.
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
things i don't care about but still issues...
1) wifi death grip - i dont grip the phone in that way
2) touch screen issues - i actually dont have one
3) no HDMI out
4) lot of apps are not really qhd.. its like watching SD content on a HD tv..
but i still like the phone and waiting for root....
sundar_amn said:
Using Sensation for 2 weeks now.
Below are few annoying things that i want to get rid off.
1) Loudspeaker volume for calls is very low. I cant use it. (For music, its passable though)
2) Contacts scroll - usually when i scroll on the right side, the contacts scroll based on alphabets. it does not work anymore.
3) Photo of Contacts appears blurry in the call screen no matter how good of a photo you assign to a contact.
4) The incoming call number font is so small. This is pathetic. I expect it bigger and catchy because thats what i will be looking for in a incoming call screen.
5) The overall lag (with 1.2 ghz dual core and 756MB Ram, i was expecting the touch and scroll experience close to iphone.. but its not.. its same old sense + android experience.. this will never change???)
6) the app drawer bounce effect when it reaches the end is choppy.. the bouncing effect in overall is choppy.. it simply don't work.
7) no unicode support for complex languages, this is a deal breaker for me - (iphone do this best. my language is 'tamil')
8) e-mails in html format is not showing up in 'overview mode'. Its always zoomed out. I am not sure if there is an option. Compare a HTML e-mail in iphone and sensation, you will see what i am talking about.
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
things i don't care about but still issues...
1) wifi death grip - i dont grip the phone in that way
2) touch screen issues - i actually dont have one
3) no HDMI out
4) lot of apps are not really qhd.. its like watching SD content on a HD tv..
but i still like the phone and waiting for root....
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there are already a ton of threads on this.... was starting another one necessary?
My contacts scroll by alphabet? You need to scroll down a little until you see the grey bar and then grab it with your finger.
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there are already a ton of threads on this.... was starting another one necessary?
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If you have solution for any of these issues, please provide. Otherwise, ignore this thread..
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My contacts scroll by alphabet? You need to scroll down a little until you see the grey bar and then grab it with your finger.
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Thanks pal. I just tried and worked. Looks like i need to scroll a little and catch the bar..
All things that will be fixed once S-OFF is obtained and newer builds start releasing.
No problem, also there is HDMI out. You have to buy the micro usb -> hdmi dongle. Or you could do DLNA if your tv/bluray is capable.
If you go to call settings or sound settings there's a setting for hearing aides that you can enable to make your speakers a bit louder.
For me 5 and 6 are real problems. And I care about death grip and it's really annoying to me
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The blurry contact photos and small font of incoming numbers are a bit annoying. I'll learn to live with them I guess.
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No problem, also there is HDMI out. You have to buy the micro usb -> hdmi dongle. Or you could do DLNA if your tv/bluray is capable.
If you go to call settings or sound settings there's a setting for hearing aides that you can enable to make your speakers a bit louder.
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Thanks again pal. I heard about the dongle but it would have been nice if the phone itself has HDMI out considering it shoots 1080P videos. How nice it will be to just connect the phone to the TV and watch the videos you shoot.. but anyways, i will buy the dongle.. its worth it..
i tried the hearing aid, it improved the in call volume but not thru the loud speaker. Its still the same..
thanks for the suggestions...
Blurry contacts images are only due to Google Contact Sync. I do not sync contact with Google, just with MS Outlook with HTC Sync, and pictures are great and sharp.
The only REALLY BIG issue I'm havin' is problem with WiFi death grip! Damn, I don't know how to solve that.
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10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
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I think this is also largely dependant on what you put on your phone... I've seen dozens of people who install every app they find even mildly interesting on the market, and as such having them sync and whatever even though they don't ever use them... have you tried removing stuff you don't use like unused widgets/apps you don't use (and are allowed to uninstall..).. this should help with that a lot.
sundar_amn said:
Using Sensation for 2 weeks now.
Below are few annoying things that i want to get rid off.
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
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This was annoying me as well. I went to my Gmail contacts from my laptop and put everyone from my people widget in the "starred in android" group. Reassigned a default action and all have stayed assigned since.
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9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
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This has nothing to do with sensation or sense, it's due to Google Contacs Sync.
I've used to have same problem while I've used to sync contacts with google, but when I've disabled it, it works like charm, and contacts have hires pictures.
sundar_amn said:
Using Sensation for 2 weeks now.
Below are few annoying things that i want to get rid off.
1) Loudspeaker volume for calls is very low. I cant use it. (For music, its passable though)
2) Contacts scroll - usually when i scroll on the right side, the contacts scroll based on alphabets. it does not work anymore.
3) Photo of Contacts appears blurry in the call screen no matter how good of a photo you assign to a contact.
4) The incoming call number font is so small. This is pathetic. I expect it bigger and catchy because thats what i will be looking for in a incoming call screen.
5) The overall lag (with 1.2 ghz dual core and 756MB Ram, i was expecting the touch and scroll experience close to iphone.. but its not.. its same old sense + android experience.. this will never change???)
6) the app drawer bounce effect when it reaches the end is choppy.. the bouncing effect in overall is choppy.. it simply don't work.
7) no unicode support for complex languages, this is a deal breaker for me - (iphone do this best. my language is 'tamil')
8) e-mails in html format is not showing up in 'overview mode'. Its always zoomed out. I am not sure if there is an option. Compare a HTML e-mail in iphone and sensation, you will see what i am talking about.
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
things i don't care about but still issues...
1) wifi death grip - i dont grip the phone in that way
2) touch screen issues - i actually dont have one
3) no HDMI out
4) lot of apps are not really qhd.. its like watching SD content on a HD tv..
but i still like the phone and waiting for root....
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Well...
1) Loudspeaker volume for calls is very low. I cant use it. (For music, its passable though)
True...
2) Contacts scroll - usually when i scroll on the right side, the contacts scroll based on alphabets. it does not work anymore.
False... As other user showed...
3) Photo of Contacts appears blurry in the call screen no matter how good of a photo you assign to a contact.
False... At least False for me... My contacts photos are PERFECT
4) The incoming call number font is so small. This is pathetic. I expect it bigger and catchy because thats what i will be looking for in a incoming call screen.
Well... It's enough for me... but maybe we could say a small true...
5) The overall lag (with 1.2 ghz dual core and 756MB Ram, i was expecting the touch and scroll experience close to iphone.. but its not.. its same old sense + android experience.. this will never change???)
False... My sense is as fast as hell ! No lag at all... Last ROM was even fast... Maybe u have installed something wrong...
6) the app drawer bounce effect when it reaches the end is choppy.. the bouncing effect in overall is choppy.. it simply don't work.
False... ¿??¿?¿?¿?
7) no unicode support for complex languages, this is a deal breaker for me - (iphone do this best. my language is 'tamil')
I am spanish... cannot say anything about this...
8) e-mails in html format is not showing up in 'overview mode'. Its always zoomed out. I am not sure if there is an option. Compare a HTML e-mail in iphone and sensation, you will see what i am talking about.
Well... I like like it is....
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
I like as it is... but is up to each person.....
10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
EXTREMELY FALSE
My normal usage:
- Wifi: Like 1.5 hours per day
- HSDP: All the day - 1.5 hours of wifi
- 4 email acounts (2 push and 2 1 hour sync)
- Facebook Sync
- Market + HTCSense (TUB....) + Weather Sync
- Like 3h of BT
- All internet browse I need / want
- Whatsapp + Tango
- Games
- I am using the phone a lot !!!! (My first week with it.... is new new new)
Tweaks for battery:
- Nothing (No sw and no special tweaks)
>> Batery duration: Like 1,5 days (default battery)
Probably with a normal use I will reach 2 days...
There is no need to install or tweak anything...
So maybe youre phone / battery is broken.... or maybe u have installed a 3rd party sw that has a power drain problem....
things i don't care about but still issues...
1) wifi death grip - i dont grip the phone in that way
Correct....
2) touch screen issues - i actually dont have one
No problems for me also.....
3) no HDMI out
False.... U just need to buy the cable... (It is not included)...
4) lot of apps are not really qhd.. its like watching SD content on a HD tv..
like 80% of the sw I use is showed perfectly.... Anyway just give time... New gen.... New SW... Is normal.... Do you install Windows 3.11 in a quad core ?
See U all !
Istarth said:
Well...
1) Loudspeaker volume for calls is very low. I cant use it. (For music, its passable though)
True...
2) Contacts scroll - usually when i scroll on the right side, the contacts scroll based on alphabets. it does not work anymore.
False... As other user showed...
3) Photo of Contacts appears blurry in the call screen no matter how good of a photo you assign to a contact.
False... At least False for me... My contacts photos are PERFECT
4) The incoming call number font is so small. This is pathetic. I expect it bigger and catchy because thats what i will be looking for in a incoming call screen.
Well... It's enough for me... but maybe we could say a small true...
5) The overall lag (with 1.2 ghz dual core and 756MB Ram, i was expecting the touch and scroll experience close to iphone.. but its not.. its same old sense + android experience.. this will never change???)
False... My sense is as fast as hell ! No lag at all... Last ROM was even fast... Maybe u have installed something wrong...
6) the app drawer bounce effect when it reaches the end is choppy.. the bouncing effect in overall is choppy.. it simply don't work.
False... ¿??¿?¿?¿?
7) no unicode support for complex languages, this is a deal breaker for me - (iphone do this best. my language is 'tamil')
I am spanish... cannot say anything about this...
8) e-mails in html format is not showing up in 'overview mode'. Its always zoomed out. I am not sure if there is an option. Compare a HTML e-mail in iphone and sensation, you will see what i am talking about.
Well... I like like it is....
9) the people widget in sense does not make a call when i click it, instead, it takes me to that person contact details. This is even after i assign a default action. Sometime it works and sometimes its not. very inconsistent.
I like as it is... but is up to each person.....
10) Need to disable a lot of 'syncs' to maintain battery drain.. its like 'there is a feature but i cant use it'..
EXTREMELY FALSE
My normal usage:
- Wifi: Like 1.5 hours per day
- HSDP: All the day - 1.5 hours of wifi
- 4 email acounts (2 push and 2 1 hour sync)
- Facebook Sync
- Market + HTCSense (TUB....) + Weather Sync
- Like 3h of BT
- All internet browse I need / want
- Whatsapp + Tango
- Games
- I am using the phone a lot !!!! (My first week with it.... is new new new)
Tweaks for battery:
- Nothing (No sw and no special tweaks)
>> Batery duration: Like 1,5 days (default battery)
Probably with a normal use I will reach 2 days...
There is no need to install or tweak anything...
So maybe youre phone / battery is broken.... or maybe u have installed a 3rd party sw that has a power drain problem....
things i don't care about but still issues...
1) wifi death grip - i dont grip the phone in that way
Correct....
2) touch screen issues - i actually dont have one
No problems for me also.....
3) no HDMI out
False.... U just need to buy the cable... (It is not included)...
4) lot of apps are not really qhd.. its like watching SD content on a HD tv..
like 80% of the sw I use is showed perfectly.... Anyway just give time... New gen.... New SW... Is normal.... Do you install Windows 3.11 in a quad core ?
See U all !
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Thanks dude! i agree some and disagree some.. but it doesnt matter.. i followed some suggestions and the phone is getting better.. the root is on the way and i am now waiting for it.. thanks.
xsardax said:
This has nothing to do with sensation or sense, it's due to Google Contacs Sync.
I've used to have same problem while I've used to sync contacts with google, but when I've disabled it, it works like charm, and contacts have hires pictures.
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So, do you still sync your contacts with anything?
honestly the phone just feels like a regular 1ghz android right now, feels like the dual core is just slow or laggy.. idk but its not as snappy as i thought it would be
Castle5665 said:
So, do you still sync your contacts with anything?
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I sync them constantly with Microsoft Outlook on my laptop, home PC and business PC. Google Contact Sync is disabled =)
xsardax said:
I sync them constantly with Microsoft Outlook on my laptop, home PC and business PC. Google Contact Sync is disabled =)
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Question with regards to pic quality and syncing.
I have two issues. 1. In messages the pics often don't show up sometimes. Very random. is this because of of the google sync and fb (from Sense) clashing?
2. when pics show up during phone calls they are ALWAYS pixelated even though it is pulling the pic from fb (which I believe is attached to Sense). any way to make these clearer?
Thanks. in advance.
I've had my S3 for a couple of weeks now, and while I've decided to abstain from the ROM merry go round for the time being, I have a list of things I'd like to see:
1. Changeable mouse pointer. It's too small and I can't really see it very well.
2. I don't see a way to select the back/menu/home buttons with my Bluetooth mouse.
3. I have the MHL adapter and need to be able to change the overscan in landscape mode. Also audio won't come out of the HDMI interface.
Otherwise it's an amazing device. This is a pretty short list, maybe I'll come up with more later. So far so good.
Pet Peeve 1 can be fixed by going on the "ROM merry go round"
1.) group sms in the stock messaging app does not properlywork
2.) Vibration cant be customized for notifications wit the built in program that lets you change vibration patterns
yosterwp said:
Pet Peeve 1 can be fixed by going on the "ROM merry go round"
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Yeah, that's what I was wondering. If I can find enough reasons to make me want to switch.
No "Stay awake while charging"
Unlocked Verizon GS3
For me, No Google Wallet...
Things I have issues with currently:
Wifi is off, would you like to turn it on? or there are wireless networks available notifications. I have them disabled when opening a high data app with mobile data enabled, they still popup and are super annoying. There is a hack I need to try for this.
The MTP mount for media transfer to your SD card. It requires special drivers and makes it difficult to transport many files at once to or from and does not allow it to mount UMS (universal mass storage) which previously was the standard to work with car radios, dvd players, etc. I have a hack in place using a script now that allows me to mount UMS for my external SDCard, but is still an annoyance.
If you use a 32GB or greater sdcard, it has to be formatted by the phone or in windows to extfat32, which is an enhanced version of the FAT32 file system allowing for greater than 4GB files and a less heavy table of contents using more processing. This would be great except its Microsoft proprietary and because Samsung doesn't have the full specs on it, it loses and corrupts files on the card quickly when you start using it. Also, ROMS cannot support it, it was designed by MS to be hazardous to open source and GNU licensing. There are tools you can download to format FAT32, which I have had to do.
S Voice, it kind of blows. I miss my quick button press to open google voice command which is roughly 5x better, now S Voice is opened when I double tap home and I have to unlock my phone and go to the google widget and hit the mic to call on google voice which lowers the convenience of voice commands drastically.
The Samsung internet browser is lacking. It does not resize text to fit the screen on double tap properly and makes it more difficult despite the large screen. It keeps webpages loaded in memory even after reboot unless you close them in the window manager which you have to scroll to the top of the page and click a button instead of being in the menu button menu. It opens a new window often when I click on links....
The modem and radios are weak and unstable at times. I am constantly dropping my data connection in known good areas and with wifi. To top it off, I get the wifi notification AGAIN to connect to a network when that happens.
It has an overactive screen auto brightness which makes pics I view look like crap when they are actually not too bad if the screen wasn't on minimum brightness.
Settings are not in great order. There are three different settings and areas portraying just to haptic feedback. Did you enable it under sounds? What about disabling it being disabled again by default every time power saving mode is enabled? Did you change the vibration power from zero? Um....
Samsung has way too many unnecessary notifications of its own cluttering the notification screen. I get four from just plugging in headphones. Wireless notification is always there by default.
Boot time can be much faster, its actually internally boot looping in order to check authenticity of system files to void warranty claims if custom. The new unlocked boot loader boots in at least half the time, maybe less. Don't like the 4G LTE boot logo or loud unnecessary noise on boot either.
Verizon is dumbing down the search in the next OTA update and all phones from mid-July already are updated because of the apple patent lawsuit that disallows searching of local content on a mobile device on devices not running iOS!? I know I'm not taking that update.
Thank you thank you thank you for the unlocked bootloader leak now.
Things I like:
This list would be long, but I'm just going to say it is an amazing device for media consumption with its screen and features, battery life is impressive, the cameras are great, its fairly smooth and fast in navigation, and it just looks great now that I've got a case on it. Makes iPhones look fat and stubby. I have been having a blast with NFC tags, put one on my chest freezer to automatically open up the drink up page on untappd for checkins when I grab a beer. Soon I'll be making a few pages online that I can edit so that I can program NFC tags with the links and remotely manage the content they bring up.
devo1929 said:
No "Stay awake while charging"
Unlocked Verizon GS3
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I have Extended Controls installed. It has a stay awake while charging toggle. My S3 actually stayed on while charging. I had to use the toggle to turn it OFF.
The IMEI issue is a pet peeve. I don't like issues that make me feel as though I am unable to crack flash
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I switched to the Chrome browser which is a lot better than the stock one. I like that I can sync pages from my desktops.
It doesn't have reception as well as a Motorola would/did. Not sure if these upcoming updates will make reception better but I get weak reception in places my DX never had a problem with. Probably jump on a RAZR around tax time if nothing improves by then... Only issue
bassett said:
I have Extended Controls installed. It has a stay awake while charging toggle. My S3 actually stayed on while charging. I had to use the toggle to turn it OFF.
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I use another app called "Stay Awake." It's nothing more than a 1x1 widget. Although, every time I reboot my phone, I need to toggle the widget again. The setting doesn't stick on a reboot.
Canute said:
I switched to the Chrome browser which is a lot better than the stock one. I like that I can sync pages from my desktops.
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Although, Chrome doesn't reflow text to fit zoom in/out of a page. Neither does the stock browser, as mentioned previously.
Opera mobile browser is my new default on the Galaxy S III and has been quite fast, reflows zoomed text wonderfully and Opera Link provides a synch with desktop Opera.
- ooofest
Has my S3 for 3 days now.
By Droid Bionic never left 4g (after the leaked ice cream update). S3 4g coverage is spotty and not as strong when I do have it.
I miss my bionic's "Full brightness when viewing pictures" option also.
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To disable the annoying connect to wifi, open the dialer and type *#6335623# this will enable a hidden menu option to disable.
Credit to ImgBurn for posting this option last week.
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The camera sucks and signal sucks. That's about it.
annoyingduck said:
To disable the annoying connect to wifi, open the dialer and type *#6335623# this will enable a hidden menu option to disable.
Credit to ImgBurn for posting this option last week.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
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I get 'welcome to VW, call cannot be competed as dialed' ?
tekhna said:
The camera sucks and signal sucks. That's about it.
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This is the first I've heard about the camera being bad. I think the camera is good. I'll give you the one about the signal tho
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For me, my pet peeve is that annoying "headphones connected" thing in the notifications. I don't like having my notification bar cluttered with useless stuff. I know my headphones are connected Samsung -.-
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xXJay_RXx said:
This is the first I've heard about the camera being bad. I think the camera is good. I'll give you the one about the signal tho
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For me, my pet peeve is that annoying "headphones connected" thing in the notifications. I don't like having my notification bar cluttered with useless stuff. I know my headphones are connected Samsung -.-
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Do a search for Galaxy S3 blurry. The camera can be pretty miserable.
tekhna said:
Do a search for Galaxy S3 blurry. The camera can be pretty miserable.
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Yeah, it's great as long as you don't zoom... but the detail while zoomed is terrible...
haven't done any searches for it recently, I'm assuming since you guys mentioned it there's no fixes for it still...
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Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.
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Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.
As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.
Items of note that I have found:
1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know
2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
kramttocs said:
2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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Thank you very much for posting this so mine can be installed correctly! I am surprised Support didn't tell me this since I have been talking to them about something else, but maybe they have different people for different issues. UPS finally got around (with their huge backlog of full trucks just sitting for days) to delivering my S8 Pro today, so I'm excited!
Out of curiosity, why did you choose to use the same back-up camera instead of get the new 720p HD one that uses the S8's capabilities for virtual bird's-eye view? I went with that camera because I used real bird's-eye view on a family member's car last fall when I borrowed it and it was helpful. Plus, of course, the coolness factor.
I hope to get the S8 Pro installed soon, but definitely do post anything else good or bad you find about yours!
I have been playing with mine a LOT the past couple of nights on the couch with it hooked up to the wall power supply. Mainly messing with FCC Launcher.
The birds eye view cameras are really nice. My wife's new Explorer has it and she loves it. I prefer turning around to backup myself so I only use my camera when hooking up to a trailer. I have it hooked to a button so it doesn't even come on when going into reverse. It's also a recessed camera that is drilled through the license place and sits flush so I don't hit it when climbing in the bed. So the short answer is that at least for now, it's not a big thing for me on my truck. I would really like to hear your experience with it though.
One thing I noticed was that the harness connector latch isn't quite right on my S8 to the point the latch on the harness itself doesn't really click. I shaved a little of the harness latch and it helps some but the problem is on the units connector and would be hard to get at. This may be only on my unit and isn't a big deal but just wanting to mention anything and everything I am finding no matter how nitpicky and irrelevant to usage it may be
On the factory reset confirmation there is spelling problem (encoding) with "can't"
I also confirmed with Atoto Support that you can't set an SD card as internal storage.
The built-in file manager doesn't appear to have 'share' options so in order to send a screenshot in gmail I needed to install a 3rd party one.
I definitely don't want to discount all the positive aspects of the S8. Still very happy with the purchase/upgrade. Even after messing with it a lot the performance is still very good. Haven't noticed any lagging or concerns there.
Glad to hear yours arrived! Please don't hesitate to add any of your findings here also. Do you use the rca low level outs then? I assume yours is from the first batch also but maybe not.
kramttocs said:
I have been playing with mine a LOT the past couple of nights on the couch with it hooked up to the wall power supply. Mainly messing with FCC Launcher.
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I had to look up that launcher. It looks nice, though I still like the look of Agama better. If you have tried Agama, what made you choose FCC over it?
The birds eye view cameras are really nice. My wife's new Explorer has it and she loves it. I prefer turning around to backup myself so I only use my camera when hooking up to a trailer. I have it hooked to a button so it doesn't even come on when going into reverse. It's also a recessed camera that is drilled through the license place and sits flush so I don't hit it when climbing in the bed. So the short answer is that at least for now, it's not a big thing for me on my truck. I would really like to hear your experience with it though.
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Yeah, my SUV is a 2005, so doesn't have a back-up camera, just back-up sensors that ding and have warning lights in the rear, so I'm not used to using a back-up camera and look behind as well as use my mirrors, but when I had to borrow my family member's car when mine was in the shop (brake lines rusted out and almost made me T-bone another car, but I was able to swerve around him with probably a few inches to go), using the camera when backing out in a parking garage was very helpful, especially to see the railings of the walkway behind me diagonally. So, I figured I should get it, especially since the bird's-eye view is what helped the most in that situation.
One thing I noticed was that the harness connector latch isn't quite right on my S8 to the point the latch on the harness itself doesn't really click. I shaved a little of the harness latch and it helps some but the problem is on the units connector and would be hard to get at. This may be only on my unit and isn't a big deal but just wanting to mention anything and everything I am finding no matter how nitpicky and irrelevant to usage it may be
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I definitely appreciate you mentioning everything! I already put a sticky note on the S8 box to remind myself about the audio plug switcharoo. Do you think your harness has the potential to fall off? Or is it secure enough that you trust it will stay?
On the factory reset confirmation there is spelling problem (encoding) with "can't"
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I hate bad grammar, but at least it is in a place I won't see it often.
I also confirmed with Atoto Support that you can't set an SD card as internal storage.
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You mean you can't save files and apps on it? It is only for updates, to transfer photos to the Gallery, and if you use it for music files?
BTW, have you tried the Gallery feature? I take it that it is like a screensaver slideshow type of thing?
The built-in file manager doesn't appear to have 'share' options so in order to send a screenshot in gmail I needed to install a 3rd party one.
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That's weird for sure. I hope they fix that in the future.
I definitely don't want to discount all the positive aspects of the S8. Still very happy with the purchase/upgrade. Even after messing with it a lot the performance is still very good. Haven't noticed any lagging or concerns there.
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That's great that there isn't any lag etc., which is one of the reasons I decided to upgrade to the S8 instead of installing the A6 I'd had for months.
Glad to hear yours arrived! Please don't hesitate to add any of your findings here also. Do you use the rca low level outs then? I assume yours is from the first batch also but maybe not.
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Seeing as mine was supposed to have been delivered on the 5th (it was out for delivery, but they didn't finish their route that day or the next business day), I'm sure it is also from the first batch. I have no idea about the "rca low level outs", sorry! I never got the A6 installed, so my car still has the old OEM factory unit in it (which has been very frustrating).
Lace'n'Pearls said:
I had to look up that launcher. It looks nice, though I still like the look of Agama better. If you have tried Agama, what made you choose FCC over it?
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I have Agama installed also and like it. No real complaints other than I wasn't able to customize it as much as I liked. It has a great UI for safe usage while driving though.
I like that FCC has some really good auto-centric widgets and can be tailored to one's own taste. It reminds me a lot like if Nova Launcher had an auto version. It does have some major pitfalls right now but I am hoping they will be addressed. I believe they are because it's designed for a different type/brand/tech of headunit and isn't entirely generic. It's because of these issues that I haven't uninstalled Agama yet
Here is what I have right now. Simple but does what I need. The background is a live visualizer.
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I definitely appreciate you mentioning everything! I already put a sticky note on the S8 box to remind myself about the audio plug switcharoo. Do you think your harness has the potential to fall off? Or is it secure enough that you trust it will stay?
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I really think it's secure enough. I am not worried about it although I would prefer to have that satisfying click.
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You mean you can't save files and apps on it? It is only for updates, to transfer photos to the Gallery, and if you use it for music files?
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This actually isn't as big of a concern as I first thought. You can save files on it but not apps. Initially Spotify wasn't picking it up and I have some large playlists that I download. After a couple reboots though it's now seeing it as the default offline location so all good there. As long as it's available for apps to use (and it looks like it is now) then I am fine with it not being internal as I suspect people won't load up their HU internal storage with apps as much as they do on their phones.
I hadn't tried the Gallery but just did. From the app drawer it looks like a normal photo viewer/slideshow app. From the pulldown menu though I must not have mine configured correctly as when I click that icon it shows a stock photo with a clock/date widget on it. It never seems to change the photo though.
Glad to hear the accident was avoided! I can imagine that got the heart beating.
If you mess with your HU a lot, might be worth looking into the ATOTO AC-10V1. It's not really a super fun purchase but sure beats sitting in a hot car playing with the launcher and getting everything setup. One could also make their own if they wanted.
How soon do you think you'll install your S8? Wanting to hear your experience. :fingers-crossed:
The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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Funny you mention that and I am glad you did. I found a reddit post talking about that so installed it last night. Haven't played around with it yet though as it did look like it was a bit of a commitment. Have a screenshot of yours? I haven't searched yet but is there a community on xda for it?
I think there's a Reddit. I had to sack it off and use kwgt instead on my A6, that's the widget only version. But the limit is your imagination with KLWP. You'd need to have your unit on the bench or use an emulator I guess as it'll take a while.
kramttocs said:
I have Agama installed also and like it. No real complaints other than I wasn't able to customize it as much as I liked. It has a great UI for safe usage while driving though.
I like that FCC has some really good auto-centric widgets and can be tailored to one's own taste. It reminds me a lot like if Nova Launcher had an auto version. It does have some major pitfalls right now but I am hoping they will be addressed. I believe they are because it's designed for a different type/brand/tech of headunit and isn't entirely generic. It's because of these issues that I haven't uninstalled Agama yet
Here is what I have right now. Simple but does what I need. The background is a live visualizer.
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I like the live visualizer background! That's a cool feature. I'm going to have to check that app out.
I really think it's secure enough. I am not worried about it although I would prefer to have that satisfying click.
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Gotcha.
This actually isn't as big of a concern as I first thought. You can save files on it but not apps. Initially Spotify wasn't picking it up and I have some large playlists that I download. After a couple reboots though it's now seeing it as the default offline location so all good there. As long as it's available for apps to use (and it looks like it is now) then I am fine with it not being internal as I suspect people won't load up their HU internal storage with apps as much as they do on their phones.
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Glad it is working now for ya! Yeah, I don't think I'll be putting too many apps on it, but if I had files to play from the SD card, that would be helpful.
I hadn't tried the Gallery but just did. From the app drawer it looks like a normal photo viewer/slideshow app. From the pulldown menu though I must not have mine configured correctly as when I click that icon it shows a stock photo with a clock/date widget on it. It never seems to change the photo though.
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Hmm, you'd think it would work the same from both locations! I don't know if I'd ever use it as a slideshow or screensaver, but I figure I'll put some of my photos (I'm a photographer) on it just in case.
Glad to hear the accident was avoided! I can imagine that got the heart beating.
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It certainly did, especially when a few hundred feet later all the dashboard lights turned on and the car was dinging at me, so I pulled into the parking lot that was there and smoke started coming out! Thankfully, I was just diagonally across the street from the mechanic I go to, so I didn't need a tow. It was a very rainy day and I'd had to drive through a flooded street about a half-hour before it, and had just pulled out of the gas station after filling up to ready for the next day's hour drive to a concert when it happened. Glad I could borrow a car and still get to the concert, but my car was in the shop for two weeks because he was slammed and no longer had another guy working for him, and GM was on strike so I think the parts took longer to get, too.
If you mess with your HU a lot, might be worth looking into the ATOTO AC-10V1. It's not really a super fun purchase but sure beats sitting in a hot car playing with the launcher and getting everything setup. One could also make their own if they wanted.
How soon do you think you'll install your S8? Wanting to hear your experience. :fingers-crossed:
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I have air conditioning in my car, plus it isn't hot here yet (64° right now), which actually is annoying because I sprayed UV protectant on some metallic car trim a few days ago and it is still tacky, unlike last July/August/September when it was good to be installed in two days. I did the front doors and around the sunroof with it last year, but didn't get to finish before the weather was too cold, so now I will do the back doors (on a warm, sunny day) and then we'll see what else.
Today, I got an app't for the S8 install on Thursday, so I'm excited!! I'm sure I could do the wiring myself, but I'm too scared of breaking my car trying to open it up and put it back together, so I'll let the pro do it (he's got so many trophies you'd think the front of the shop was a trophy store).
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The best thing you can do, and it's now possible on the S8 is to use KLWP to completely design your own interface. It wasn't possible on the A6 as it killed the live wallpaper background process on fast boot/resume. Obviously there is a learning curve, but it's a real treat once you get going.
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Thanks, I'll have to try all three launchers!
Hello, fellow ATOTO users. I am testing the S8 Ultra and, as others have mentioned, it is noticeably peppier than the A6. I'm wondering if others have noticed a couple of annoying things I've come across. I like being able to mark radio stations as favorites - even to the point of giving their buttons custom names. On the A6, I'd hit the radio buttons and I'd be taken to my favorites. On the S8, just the generic radio screen. Also on the A6, I'd turn the car on and the unit would open to the home screen and play music or radio, whichever I was running when I shut it off. On the S8, if I was listening to the radio, it goes to the radio screen (but just the generic one, remember..) or, if listening to the music player, it goes to that screen. I spent a lot of time getting my home screen set up and would really prefer to see that when I turn the unit on. I know, picky. Have others had this experience?
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Hello, fellow ATOTO users. I am testing the S8 Ultra and, as others have mentioned, it is noticeably peppier than the A6. I'm wondering if others have noticed a couple of annoying things I've come across. I like being able to mark radio stations as favorites - even to the point of giving their buttons custom names. On the A6, I'd hit the radio buttons and I'd be taken to my favorites. On the S8, just the generic radio screen. Also on the A6, I'd turn the car on and the unit would open to the home screen and play music or radio, whichever I was running when I shut it off. On the S8, if I was listening to the radio, it goes to the radio screen (but just the generic one, remember..) or, if listening to the music player, it goes to that screen. I spent a lot of time getting my home screen set up and would really prefer to see that when I turn the unit on. I know, picky. Have others had this experience?
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yep, experienced the exact same thing and reported to Atoto. The radio opening not on the favourites is particularly annoying, makes the favourites kinda pointless. I have taken to just assigning all stations on the "opening" radio screen to stations that are basically my favourites. Certainly seems an oversight on Atotos behalf as it worked ok on the A6.
The radio widget, although better than on the A6 as it doesnt just scan now, it jumps to stations. Again but not favourites, just all channels saved. Also it doesnt show the labels, just the frequency which seems like something easy to do so why miss it off?
Its a way better unit than the A6 though, even though it still has a few problems. I mean the problems seem like childs play to fix so not sure why this wasnt tested out prior.
Agree on the radio. The favorites behavior is pretty unpolished. I would also like to see the 'Delete all' button for the favorites as nested inside settings although not sure what to replace it with necessarily. How often are people going to really want to delete all of their presents?
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Agree on the radio. The favorites behavior is pretty unpolished. I would also like to see the 'Delete all' button for the favorites as nested inside settings although not sure what to replace it with necessarily. How often are people going to really want to delete all of their presents?
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You should never have a delete all button like that not nested or behind a menu, it's frankly a dangerous design.
It's weird, it's like the testing by the developers was flawed, the favourites thing is pretty obvious from the second time you use it and then you'd fix it, surely.
I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.
With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.
I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.
Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.
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I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.
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I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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HI again. I was reading the manual again last night and I thought about the EQ and listener settings. Does the wires being reversed affect those settings, like if I set it to sound best for the front seat, will it sound best for the back seat instead? Or is it basically just the same as the labels on the back of the unit being switched, but the unit doesn't know?
Also, for the Gallery to work via the pull-down, check out the manual on how to load the photos onto the system and then reboot it. Interesting for it to work like that!
A note I want to make is that this unit has four USB ports coming from the back, and unfortunately I didn't realize that until it was too late to order a second dual-USB extension square mount (I had gotten one dual and one single for the A6) before my install. I will have to use the single one for my side of the car (the QC 3.0 one) and the dual for the passenger side. I wish I could have had a dual for my side, too, but I probably won't need it anyway. (I'm not planning on opening up the dash again just for an extra USB port whether I get a dual for my side or a second single for a different spot in the car. And I'm definitely not going to have messy wires hanging out, hence the square mounts.)
Does anyone here use the Bluetooth tethering app that the manual recommends? You put it on both the phone and the head unit, unlike the other app I use when tethering my iPad (when the power or cable Internet goes out) which goes only on the phone.
Also, do you think it is possible for Atoto to change the unit to allow Tasker to never be killed during sleep (for fast boot), or is that an Android limitation? I would think that it wouldn't take too much battery power, but really I don't know. I just think it would be handy so we can set up tasks to automatically open apps or change settings etc. upon fast boot.
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Also, do you think it is possible for Atoto to change the unit to allow Tasker to never be killed during sleep (for fast boot), or is that an Android limitation? I would think that it wouldn't take too much battery power, but really I don't know. I just think it would be handy so we can set up tasks to automatically open apps or change settings etc. upon fast boot.
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i think my S8 Ultra doesnt kill tasker? i know it doesnt kill Live Wallpapers like my A6 used to. I can test today and report back.
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I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher.
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I use Nova Launcher, its very customisable, you should give that a go.
Something else I noticed. on the back of the S8 standard is a split Y USB extension cable. They're labeled, but I can't remember what they say right now. But I have the one port going straight to my dash cam, and I have another USB Y splitter on the other. From that splitter I have 2 type C charging cables so that I can charge 2 cells at the same time. The charging works great, but the file explorer app does not recognize them as USB devices. When I connected mine for the first time, it asked if I wanted to connect it for dev use and I hit no. then I switch it to data transfer and an error comes up on my phone and the stereo does not recognize them as external storage.
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I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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Thanks for the help, but none of the autostart apps worked. I dragged down the top bar and hit restart and it still load the radio. I guess I'll have to load it manually every time I get in, kind of a bother, but it's not really a big deal.
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I use Nova Launcher, its very customisable, you should give that a go.
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I just tested Nova out and it looks and works like Google Now Launcher, and it does the same thing, it doesn't recognize the phone as an app. I can't create a shortcut icon for the phone because I can't find it any where. And whenever I turn the stereo off then on, The search app loads automatically. No matter what, if I drag down the top bar and hit reboot or if I just turn the unit off, the search box still loads and I have to close it to get to the home screen. I uninstalled Nova and I'm back to the stock launcher again. The only real problem I have with the stock launcher is that you can't resize the icons, other than that it's fine.
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i think my S8 Ultra doesnt kill tasker? i know it doesnt kill Live Wallpapers like my A6 used to. I can test today and report back.
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Well that's cool! I'm looking forward to mine getting installed tomorrow (if everything goes well). I installed the red trim on my back doors this afternoon, too, since it was warm and sunny finally, so it is a good week for my car!
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Something else I noticed. on the back of the S8 standard is a split Y USB extension cable. They're labeled, but I can't remember what they say right now. But I have the one port going straight to my dash cam, and I have another USB Y splitter on the other. From that splitter I have 2 type C charging cables so that I can charge 2 cells at the same time. The charging works great, but the file explorer app does not recognize them as USB devices. When I connected mine for the first time, it asked if I wanted to connect it for dev use and I hit no. then I switch it to data transfer and an error comes up on my phone and the stereo does not recognize them as external storage.
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Not all the USBs are meant for use for external storage devices. That's one of the labels on the cords. Quick Charge is another label (except I don't know if your S8 Standard has QC 3.0), and I believe the other label is for Android Auto/Apple Car Play. I'm sure they all charge, but only the one is QC 3.0, which is the one I'll be using to charge my Samsung phone. The S8 Pro has two sets of Y-split USB cables, so four USB ports (not including the one on the front of the stereo next to the screen), and I believe two are for external storage. I only plan on having guests use them for charging, and I don't understand the point of the ugly, clunky Android Auto app, but I probably should write down which port is which (although I am losing one due to not realizing in time that I need the flush mounts for four ports instead of three).
Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, but isn't there a separate plug-in for dash cams? Or does yours just not use that type of plug?