General 'gripes' with my Captivate - Captivate General

OK, so the GPS issue aside, I've encountered some random other problems with my Captivate. I'm JH2 with the SuperRooter tool installed. Some of these are actual problems, some are just gripes.
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
3 - Most of the time when I unplug the USB cable the icon still shows in the status bar, and when I click to turn off USB it still stays there, and only a reboot of the phone fixes it.
4 - I hate how the ring starts off soft then increases in volume, it's dumb that we can't change that.
5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
6 - I have other random wierdness from time to time, like tonight internet connectivity over wifi just stopped working, then started working again an hour later for no reason.
7 - The only apps I miss are my GuitarToolkit, the DrumKit app, and the i.TV app which was an all in one tv guide and let me schedule my Tivo recordings...
8 - ...and of course we all know the GPS sucks!
I have about 3 days left to decide if I want to keep this device or just fork over what's left of my sould and buy the iPhone 4 (I've been a 3GS user for about a year and have been generally happy once I got it jailbroken). Most of this stuff individually isn't too bad, but put it all together and throw in the GPS debacle and, well I shouldn't have to justify to myself WHY I want to keep a phone...

AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
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You should look into K9 mail. It's an awesome app and let's you have multiple identities ala Thunderbird so that you can send from your other email addresses w/o having to set up separate accounts on your phone. Very slick program, can move between folders, has archive, junk, etc.
I don't know about the others. I took my Captivate and returned it, but passed on buying a 32GB iPhone 4 because I know one of two things:
1) If the GPS and lag are fixed and/or GPS is fixed and we get Froyo I'm back to a Captivate or,
2) There will be another upcoming phone that is more open than Uncle Stevie's vision of what he wants us to do with a phone.
Having been an iPhone 3G and then 3GS user (yep, went back to my 3GS but only for 6 weeks or so) I can say that having remembered what real multitasking is, real choice is and real options with software - I ain't goin' back. YMMV.

I'll be willing to bet that number 1 is due to your finger on the notification bar. If you slide your finger across it, the brightness will change.
2. Bug with Google Voice, not a hardware problem.
4. Ringtone starts quietly so you have a chance to catch it before it gets obnoxious. It only stays quiet for half a second, and if your phone is ringing, half a second isn't going to make or break the call.

I had a similar problem with Google Voice. I just deactivated the service for my phone number then reactivated a few minutes later, haven't had any problems since.
I'm not sure if that'll fix it for you, but you might want to give it a try--just go to your voicemail settings on the Google Voice website.

benclayton said:
4. Ringtone starts quietly so you have a chance to catch it before it gets obnoxious. It only stays quiet for half a second, and if your phone is ringing, half a second isn't going to make or break the call.
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Maybe, but I would agree that the option to turn it off should be available.

I bet the brightness problem is because you can change the brightness by sliding your finger across the notification bar. It's actually a very nice feature when you get used to it.
If I were you,i would go through the google voice mail set up again. I haven't had any problems with it at all.
Also, my ringtone does not start out quiet and then gradually increase in volume. Is it possible that the ringed you have tried are just recorded that way?

Thanks for the tip ob the brightness setting.
As far as I know the ringtone thing applies to every captivate so either yours is going it and you just don't notice it or you've got a special firmware or something
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AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
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I also missed my visual voicemail. I've found that YouMail is an effective if not perfect replacement (my only real gripe is it is a separate app not integrated into the phone app).

That's too bad. I literally have none of those problems.
By far my biggest problem has been GPS, like others. However, with JH2, left all at stock settings I actually have good accuracy - even after 3 days - google nav has been right on. I used cardiotrainer and went for a walk and it was again completely on - better than my old Nokia N79, better than 5m accuracy.
Initial lock times were slow a bit over a minute (default has skyhook off). I put skyhook on yesterday, so I am interested to see if my improved accuracy after initial lock continues. What I have found is that all the suggested chances in the GPS fix might help initial locks, but went to crap after a day or so - and never really had the accuracy while moving. JH2 at all stock has lower initial lock speed, but must have a gps fw algorithm change leading to much better navigation / moving accuracy.
Bottom line - I will be shocked if Samsung doesn't have a 100% GPS fix next month (or with Froyo).

AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
5 - The email interface is less than desirable. Actually uit's not the interface itself, but rather a couple limitations. One, you can't move messages to another folder - so I have messages in my inbox that I want to move to another folder in my gmail account, and I don't see the option anywhere to do this, I ahve to log in to the computer to do this. Two, on my hotmail account, the other folders I've created don't even shows up, so I have no access to those messages at all.
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I dont think you know what you're talking about in reference to Hotmail. I have a hotmail account and when you go to the browser and login to your hotmail account, all the options are there. Right in the middle of the screen is a "More" button, just click that and a list flies out and scroll down and "Move to" and the list of custom folders is right there. It has full functionality of the desktop site.
If you're trying to use the built-in email app to work with hotmail, dont. It wont work. You have to use hotmail through the web browser. Hotmail has a great mobile website.

deuX` said:
I had a similar problem with Google Voice. I just deactivated the service for my phone number then reactivated a few minutes later, haven't had any problems since.
I'm not sure if that'll fix it for you, but you might want to give it a try--just go to your voicemail settings on the Google Voice website.
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Yes, to activate google voice for your phone you have to go to the google voice website and follow the instructions there. You have to enter your phone number and what mobile carrier you are using and then it gives you a string of numbers and characters that you must dial from your mobile phone to tell AT&T to forward your missed calls to a google voice server/phone number.
Do that and it should work fine. I did and have had zero problems from google voicemail.

If you have brightness on automatic it will change screen brightness based on light in room. If you go outside it will turn brightness up. If your in dark room it will turn brightness all the way down. You can test by covering sensor on fron with your finger and see if brightness drops. If you dont like it turn off in settings.
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AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
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Make sure auto-brightness is turned off...also, like someone else mentioned, the notification bar lets you adjust the brightness by sliding across it horizontally while the gray bar is showing. Neat feature once you get used to it, but it also confused the hell out of me when I accidentally slid it. Best thing I've found is to just flick the notification bar up and down quickly (vs dragging it all the way up or down).
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2 - Google Voice has been problematic, to the point where I'm not using it any longer. Even though I've set my phone to send voicemail to my Google Voice number it only works about half the time. The other half it goes to my AT&T Voicemail. I MISS the voicemail on the iPhone!!!!
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Assuming you've set it up correctly (which it sounds like you have, since it does go to GV voicemail sometimes), the problem does lie on GV's end. They make it wait 25 seconds before GV will actually pick it up, so your carrier voicemail will intercept it if it's set to pick up sooner than 25 seconds. Until GV lets us decide how long it takes for it to pick up, you can sort of fix this with the following workaround:
1. On your phone, dial *#61# and click Send.
2. Some information should be displayed: number that the calls are being forwarded to and the delay before the forwarding engages (should be your gv #)
3. Dial **61*+1xxxyyyzzzz*11*30# and hit Send. +1xxxyyyzzzz is your GV #, 30 is the delay in seconds. The delay can be set in 5 second increments, 30 is maximum
4. Dial *#61# to verify that the new settings are active.
Unfortunately this means that it will take >25 seconds for it to send to GVoicemail, but it does reliably work.
As for the GPS, I'm optimistic that the firmware fix that Samsung has leaked will solve that and our lag issues, but I can see how that would be frustrating to some who want it to work now (as well they should). Sorry to hear that you're having gripes with the phone, but hopefully these solutions will alleviate some of your issues.

AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
OK, so the GPS issue aside, I've encountered some random other problems with my Captivate. I'm JH2 with the SuperRooter tool installed. Some of these are actual problems, some are just gripes.
1 - Sometimes for no apparent reason the brightness will change. It will drop all the way down to the lowest setting and I have to go in and manually raise it up again.
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This is a feature. They built in a brightness slider when you draw the notification tray down a tiny bit and slide your finger from left (dim) to right (brightest)
ah sorry, didn't see the answer already. my bad

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I dont think you know what you're talking about in reference to Hotmail. I have a hotmail account and when you go to the browser and login to your hotmail account, all the options are there. Right in the middle of the screen is a "More" button, just click that and a list flies out and scroll down and "Move to" and the list of custom folders is right there. It has full functionality of the desktop site.
If you're trying to use the built-in email app to work with hotmail, dont. It wont work. You have to use hotmail through the web browser. Hotmail has a great mobile website.
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No offense, but your assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about is way off...
Clearly, I'm aware that you can manage folders using the web interface in Hotmail, otherwise I wouldn't have known how to create the folder initially that isn't showing up in the standard mail application. I thought it was obvious I was walking about the capabilities of the phone, as in the built in email application...
If I have to use the web interface to manage my email then what's the point of even having an email application?
The email application gives me almost the exact same functionality with Hotmail as it does with Gmail, I think you're mistaken that Hotmail won't work in the default email app. The only thing I get with Gmail that I don't with Hotmail is access to view what's in my extra folders, which really doesn't help because I can't do anything with items in those folders like move them around.

AsSiMiLaTeD_77 said:
No offense, but your assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about is way off...
Clearly, I'm aware that you can manage folders using the web interface in Hotmail, otherwise I wouldn't have known how to create the folder initially that isn't showing up in the standard mail application. I thought it was obvious I was walking about the capabilities of the phone, as in the built in email application...
If I have to use the web interface to manage my email then what's the point of even having an email application?
The email application gives me almost the exact same functionality with Hotmail as it does with Gmail, I think you're mistaken that Hotmail won't work in the default email app. The only thing I get with Gmail that I don't with Hotmail is access to view what's in my extra folders, which really doesn't help because I can't do anything with items in those folders like move them around.
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I 100% agree with you about moving email. That is one of my biggest gripes too. Also HTC DOES have this integrated into their mail program, and also folder hierarchy. I think it is just poor that Google didn't integrate these right into the stock mail app, and also that Samsung didn't in theirs.

I think not being able to take MMS photos vertically is annoying. I was used to it on the iPhone; I think vertical or "tall" images look better for Facebook mobile uploads, and I can't find a way to take them so they don't end up sideways in the MMS or mobile upload. Any ideas?

Whats reassuring is that almost all of your complaints can be address through a software update.
Its rumored that the GPS fix + Froyo update will be launched simultaneously or very close together.

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HTC Touch PRO 2 - FULL OF BUGS - Please review these and let me know!!!!!

Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
hey,idk how helpful this willbe but it seems like these phones str8 out of the box are having problems...ive read that a hard reset will get rid of some of the unwanted bugs...you may try that
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
zalez said:
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
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My experience is the same with the Verizon branded TP2.
#5 It sends it as vCard attachement.
I Just open the contact info to edit then copy and past it into SMS.
Returning TP2 tomorrow
Used the TP2 for 3 weeks;
1. Screen clicks when touched, guess the slider hinge is loose;
2. Set vibrate then ring, keeps going back to ring only everytime the phone is powered off and back on, (standby on); this is the mode I use often, not to annoy people in meetings, and not to miss calls;
3. Cant set screen dim time to more than 10seconds, it dims after 10seconds no matter what the settting is;
4. Internet brower lunch from home gets stuck randomly, have to hit end go back to home, then internet again;
5. GPS performance with Sprint Navigation is much worse than Touch; It takes much longer to lock, and it lose GPS often; Maybe a software thing, Google map seems to work fine.
Non of the bugs are serious, but very annoying! The phone is too big, too heavy, too expensive ($349 from Sprint)! Miss the dial pad; The only good thing is the beautiful screen.
Hopefuly WM6.5 upgrade will fix these, but dont want to get stuck with waiting for the upgrade, I've just re-activated my old touch, and returning TP2 tomorrow.
You can add the issue of not being able to keep static IP's assigned to the network adapter for use while in your workplace or business, and then when not in the workplace haveing the ability to use sprints data services. In otherwords everything has to be dynamic. If you want to use static ip's while in range of wifi, you have to clear it out when you leave the wifi spot in order to use regular evdo.
gps is fast and accurate
fast if you disable touch flo and use mobile shell
Another bug
When viewing NFL mobile, after about two minutes into showing something, the phone reboots itself. Quite annoyin'!
arifiano said:
Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
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1. I've heard of this happening after soft reset but it doesn't happen on my phone
2.Works perfectly fine on mine, all you do is hit the 'Keypad' button and it should stay up. if you end up at the home screen hit 'phone' and then keypad and you should be good....do you have a dialer skin on it?
3.Never happens for me
4. haven't tried, i don't have any contacts with multiple numbers
5. haven't tried but i usually just copy/paste phone numbers for sms
definitely try hard reset. and if it's got a warranty or anything like that you still have the option to return/exchange it
well speak of the devil my phone started showing some of these symptoms later in the evening and now even worse when i make calls i can hear people talking but they can hear me
a hard reset fixed it but when i restore my backup files it goes back to messing up so maybe it's one of the tweaks i ran?
is there a way to use sprite mobile to only restore contacts/sms? that's all i really need i'll think i'll hold off on the tweaks and just wait for the HSPL unlocker
Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
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Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
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yeah, the real messed up part is verizon is out of stock with the phone. i went to a verizon store but they couldn't even replace it for me. i think the people over there are retarted cuz i've known it was out of stock but the dudes at the store didnt know and the guy they had me talking to on the phone didn't even know they didn't sell them in stores!
'you'll probably get the imaggio isntead it's the upgrade of your phone'...no stupid i need a keyboard
mine keeps switching from Ring and Vibrate to Ring as well

Bug in Gmail app?

I have an annoying bug with the gmail apk.
When I hit the "sync" button to look for new emails (I have autosync turned off) and I have a new mail, the app would show me "Inbox (1)" in the upper left corner, meaning there should be one new email. However, sometimes/often that one new email just won't appear in the emails list. I can see my old mails but the new one just isn't there, altough the (1) is displayed. When I go to my the "All mails" Category instead of the "inbox", I can see it, also when I look it up on the PC.
This happens sometimes more, sometimes less often (last time yesterday), and I have no Idea why so. Sometimes I would get for example 3 new mails, but only 2 are displayed
Anyone else with that problem?
me too facing this
You don't have to "sync" gmail as it uses push. So just check the "sync" option and emails should get pushed to your phone when they are received. Why did you turn that option off?
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Do you refer to the "Auto-Sync" option under Accounts & sync? Because I cannot find a "Push" option anywhere...
If you mean that, I deactivated it because it sucks alot of energy as it refreshes all the time in order to fetch your mails. I'd rather just go into the app and check for new mails myself.
And the fact that sometimes I see the mails in my inbox and sometimes I don't (only the number in brackets appears in the upper left corner but no mail) tells me that this is indeed a bug.
How come only 2 people are having this?
That's not how PUSH works
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Do you refer to the "Auto-Sync" option under Accounts & sync? Because I cannot find a "Push" option anywhere...
If you mean that, I deactivated it because it sucks alot of energy as it refreshes all the time in order to fetch your mails. I'd rather just go into the app and check for new mails myself.
And the fact that sometimes I see the mails in my inbox and sometimes I don't (only the number in brackets appears in the upper left corner but no mail) tells me that this is indeed a bug.
How come only 2 people are having this?
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That's not how PUSH works. Resources are NOT used, or used so little to be insignificant when you have GMail set up to Sync. Basically, as long as there are no messages, you will never get a notification, and your phone will not check mail. When a message is sent to you, ONLY THEN will your phone "do something" by displaying the fact that you have a message.
However, if you use HTC's mail function, that's another story. There you have to actually decide how often you want the app to check mail, or do it manually, as you are doing now. So, even if you get no mail, it will still check as often as you have it set up to do so. This uses far more resources.
Again, if you have GMail set up properly, just leave it alone. It will only "do something" when there is mail. Otherwise, nothing.
Peter
Thank you for the input, much appreciated. Guess I had the wrong Idea of how Push works. I know people kept saying that it eats battery life like crazy on the iphone back then.
So, is "Auto-Sync on" (Accounts & sync menu) = Push on?
Because I still can't find an entry that says push.
Finally, I still have that bug in gmail....

Dialer and Contacts Inconsistancy

So i havn't seen anyone else complaining about this yet but it must drive someone insane or im just way too OCD.
As seen below, when you open the dialer you are presented with Keypad/Recent/Favorites/Contacts, in that order.
When you press on Contacts, Recent is replaced by Groups (i dont like it but ok-whatever), my biggest issue is that Favorites and Contacts swap places, to me this is just insane.
As a side note, for me going from dialer to contacts takes a long time to load, i'd say about 1.5 seconds, i do have a few hundred contacts but this is also the first time ive had this issue.
Thoughts or ideas?
lol, mine never changes.
Hmm, I never noticed until you pointed that out...
It is strange that favorites and contacts swap spots. I never really noticed, because I have a contacts link on one of my home screens and when I am in the dialer I dont bother going in to contacts, I just start typing the name I want.
Strange, but not a problem for me...
I just tried going into my contacts from the dialer and it did seem to pause for a second (I have 474 contacts), but I never really notice a pause going into contacts from the home screen directly.
I actually spent a couple hours the other day weeding out my contacts on Google (via GMal). Contacts I speak to frequently are starred. Anyone else I either start typing their name or directly reply to a text or such. I went to my contacts a few different times since reading this and nothing changed.
Mine changes, just like the OP. I hate it, especially since on Froyo I had a much cleaner dialer. What I miss the most is the ability to have the dialer stay on the screen when I make calls, meaning having the option before to have it show automatic in a call, vs having to open the dialer when actually in a phone call. I have searched everywhere I can find for the option to have the dialer always open when in a call, but cat find that option. Does anyone know how to make the dialer show for every phone call, without having to select it once the call has been started. ? Thanks in advance.
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Mine changes, just like the OP. I hate it, especially since on Froyo I had a much cleaner dialer. What I miss the most is the ability to have the dialer stay on the screen when I make calls, meaning having the option before to have it show automatic in a call, vs having to open the dialer when actually in a phone call. I have searched everywhere I can find for the option to have the dialer always open when in a call, but cat find that option. Does anyone know how to make the dialer show for every phone call, without having to select it once the call has been started. ? Thanks in advance.
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Android M Doze and gmail sync.

Right This is probably more an android in geenral thing...
When I'm using my computer I tend to use my N5 as a notification device for emails (ever since google disabled support for gmail notifier).
Anyways, that's worked quite well for some time, my phone happily rings away whenever I get emails or I see the notification LED flashing away to let me know there's something there...until I've installed the OTA for Marshmallow.
Because of Doze and leaving the phone alone for quite a while at a time...it doesn't sync my gmail whenever i get a mail...which is kind of annoying as I do like to get my mail notifications as they come in.
Since monday I've been searching around trying to figure out if there's any way to get gmail to sync during doze but so far I havent had any luck at all...I'm starting to feel like it's impossible to keep gmail syncing during doze due to googles decision it shouldn't :| And I'm very much tempted to revert to 5.1.1.
Any ideas? Thanks
Go into battery, click the three dots icon and go to battery optimisation. Then select all apps from the drop down list, find gmail and select don't optimise.
Haven't tried it myself but the help sort of indicates this will stop apps from dozing[emoji4]. Worth a try anyway!
Cheers,
Dave
froggy666uk said:
Go into battery, click the three dots icon and go to battery optimisation. Then select all apps from the drop down list, find gmail and select don't optimise.
Haven't tried it myself but the help sort of indicates this will stop apps from dozing[emoji4]. Worth a try anyway!
Cheers,
Dave
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Thanks for the reply, that's the first thing i tried.
Left it alone a while, sent myself a test email and...nothing. Left it 10 minutes and as soon as i turned the screen on it sync'd :|
Ah that's annoying. I wonder if setting Android System or some of the other system type apps to not optimised too would ensure the various syncs run?
Cheers,
Dave
froggy666uk said:
Ah that's annoying. I wonder if setting Android System or some of the other system type apps to not optimised too would ensure the various syncs run?
Cheers,
Dave
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Seems they made doze too powerful, i wonder if calls go through...
*RING RING* sorry this users phone is currently dozing, call back later
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Ah that's annoying. I wonder if setting Android System or some of the other system type apps to not optimised too would ensure the various syncs run?
Cheers,
Dave
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Mmm I'm wary to start changing things since I don't know what will actually do it or if doze will doze whatever you try...
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Seems they made doze too powerful, i wonder if calls go through...
*RING RING* sorry this users phone is currently dozing, call back later
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Yep, especially with no way to change certain things...
Apparently high priority notifications from google cloud messaging wake the phone up but that obviously doesnt include gmail! :|
Yeah I've been messing with it since monday now and I still can't get gmails to come through when it's in doze...
I tested it by sending 2 emails to myself but nothing...while hangouts messages came through each and every time...about 10 of them came through instantly as i sent them...
so i guess my only hope might be for google to make gmail notifications high priority like hangouts? Unless anybody else knows how yet?
My ElementalX rooted nexus 5 receives pushed Gmail immediately with sound and display. I didn't try it before rooting though.
Gmail was "Dozed"
Hi
Just to add some information on this. Doze is very aggressive, it stops all notifications from Googles Messaging Cloud Service, except those sent with high priority. It is a ping from Googles Messaging service that wakes up Gmail to alert you of a new message, but in Doze these are all stopped with the exception of those pings that are sent with High priority. Hangouts get sent with high priority, so these do ping through, but Gmail pings are sent with normal priority.
Calls and text messages are received by the modem part of the phone which runs outside of Android, this chip raises an event by signalling on a wire which Android will respond to, so calls and texts still arrive even when in Doze.
Putting Gmail as an exception to battery optimisation doesn't change this behaviour regarding pings from Google, not sure if that has changed on 6.0.1.
Why Google hasn't made Gmail messaging pings high priority I do not know, perhaps Gmail is a particular battery drain if receiving these pings constantly, or maybe their back end systems can't cope with all the extra Gmail alerts in their system as high priority.
Regards
Phil
It started happening to me on lollipop and even in ios
For me this started even on Lollipop a few weeks ago, too. Has been working flawlessly for years before that. But now sometimes Gmail notifications would get through, sometimes not. So it's not necessarily because of MM's Doze but a problem with Gmail itself. I've been looking around, there was opened an issue at AOSP issue tracker >here<. It has been fixed apparently, but not yet released.
It's 2018, and i am using LG Nexus 5 with Marshmallow (v6.0.1) and this problem STILL occurs for me. And its precisely how @pillipL described it in page 1. It's only specific to GMail...Hangouts gets thru fine eveyr time. So its like a high priority issue. And the battery optimization (turn off optimize) doesnt help.

Is there a push email service that works with this phone?

i use gmail only. otherwise adore this phone but there are no email apps that work with getting instant notifications for email.
How is this possible? are there any apps that work? Theres no way Huawei would put this phone out with this issue...
I receive both gmail and exchange push notifications all the time, using the native gmail app and the email app for exchange.
loudog3114 said:
I receive both gmail and exchange push notifications all the time, using the native gmail app and the email app for exchange.
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the gmail app updates randomly. every time i unlock the screen, the gmail icon shows up and all of a sudden I have unread emails in the inbox.
if i use the native mail app, will this issue be corrected?
Do you have them whitelisted in the power usage firewall?
This is a real issue, I set every single setting possible to try and rectify this problem but I can't. It doesn't appear to affect everyone but I can confirm if affects me.
Never had any issues with Hangout or Whatsapp though like other have had.
I'm not sure if it's hardware revision, software version or what makes it not work for some, very frustrating. I've tried most roms, root, no root, using gmail, using built in mail, using other mail programs but the same results.
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Do you have them whitelisted in the power usage firewall?
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where is this option?
mail is also not an option to protect
Phone manager app, battery manager, protected apps.
loudog3114 said:
Phone manager app, battery manager, protected apps.
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In this setting, neither Gmail or the native mail app are present. Outlook was present when I had it, but the same issues that gmail had.
The "E-Mail" app works great here (Gmail too)
EGOiST1991 said:
The "E-Mail" app works great here (Gmail too)
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native, gmail, outlook, bluemail...none of them work. How is this happening? How does everyone not have this issue?
Such an amazing device, such a stupid way to completely ruin it...
Is there any way to get email notifications that I haven't brought up?
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native, gmail, outlook, bluemail...none of them work. How is this happening? How does everyone not have this issue?
Such an amazing device, such a stupid way to completely ruin it...
Is there any way to get email notifications that I haven't brought up?
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Root and update rom after my guide?
I have already root and update rom but I am experiencing the same issue as the OP. I have tried EVERYTHING.
Move to app-sys, change doze settings, protect apps, clear dalvik cache and everything I can think of.
Telegram works, whatsapp works but NO email works.
I have tried typeapp/bluemail/gmail/normal mail. None works.
As soon as I lid up the screen all notifications come. When my phone is on the charger all notification comes.
So clearly this has something to do with power management. I am thinking of selling my phone because of this. In my work I MUST HAVE PUSH WORKING. Otherwise the phone is of no use.
Such a great device otherwise, one of the best if not the best I've ever had. Switched from galaxy s6 to this. But WHY HUAWEI ARENT YOU SOLVING THIS ISSUES.
A google search shows the issue has been there since mate 7 and even longer time ago.
I'm not stating this will work for everyone but I'm currently no longer experiencing the gmail issue that I've had since day one and on every rom I've tried.
If you are bootloader unlocked and have some time then give this a go and feedback on your results please.
I've installed rayglobe rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/development/rom-rayglobe-rom-t3315682
I then installed Doze from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/howto-solving-notification-issues-root-t3294178
As detailed in the Doze instructions I applied tuhinxp04's profile and just change idle timeout and max idle timeout to 60 sec and 600 sec respectively.
gmail and Blackberry hub are working as expected for this first time since getting the phone 3 weeks ago. You may not have the same success but please give it a go
UPDATE: 8 minutes is the longest I've so far had to wait for an email to arrive. Not push but something I can live with. Whatsapp and Hangouts seems fine btw.
The solution of notification problems for all apps of huawei phones (emui) is this brilliance application
Memory Locker on Google play
Lock all of your apps that are having problem with this software and also Lock your app in recent app and see if it is fixed.
Cheers!
Gnasher666 the issue is that push is critical for me. I turn on my screen every 10mins anyway but email push is very critical. Every second 15 second counts and I need to be alerted directly.
I thought i solved it. It worked perfectly for 8 hours and then suddenly died after I recharged my battery. Was even going to write a guide on how I solved it haha but then it died again so no solution here.
I really dont know why its so difficult to make it work because some apps do work like telegram.
So what is so special about that app that works but not others....
I get your frustration, I don't need that timely a notification for emails - 10 - 15 minutes works. Prior to all the playing around I've done I could go from one unlock to the next without receiving a mail notification, so for me this is a great step forward. Obviously, this is a hack, we shouldn't have to do it in the first place and Huawei needs to resolve it. If they fix this issue I'd be able to say without any doubt this is the best phone I've had (and I've had a lot, including top end Androids, iPhone 6S plus etc).
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Gnasher666 the issue is that push is critical for me. I turn on my screen every 10mins anyway but email push is very critical. Every second 15 second counts and I need to be alerted directly.
I thought i solved it. It worked perfectly for 8 hours and then suddenly died after I recharged my battery. Was even going to write a guide on how I solved it haha but then it died again so no solution here.
I really dont know why its so difficult to make it work because some apps do work like telegram.
So what is so special about that app that works but not others....
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read this (doze - android 6.0):
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-what-doze-how-do-i-use-it-and-what-does-it-do
You'll still get notified when "high-priority" apps need your attention. That means things like phone calls or SMS messages can get through (and thus waking up your dozing phone) as well as any app that declares itself as high-priority. Other things, like email notifications or Clash of Clans telling you your gold mine has leveled up aren't going to come in and wake your phone up.
This doesn't mean you never get any notifications while your phone is idle. Google uses what they call an "Idle maintenance window" where they pick up any notifications that may be available in one big batch. Then your phone can quickly go back to sleep.
When you wake your phone by side button, notiffication will arive immediatly (sorry 4 bad english)
not confirming anything - but memory locker may work. i set -17 to outlook after disabling gmail and I am getting instant emails. more testing until confirmation.
after powering off and on again, had to do all the settings again. so strange, like it sometimes works.
p_noch said:
The solution of notification problems for all apps of huawei phones (emui) is this brilliance application
Memory Locker on Google play
Lock all of your apps that are having problem with this software and also Lock your app in recent app and see if it is fixed.
Cheers!
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Is it best to set the things you want to always stay active -17?

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