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Safe overclocking + battery

Hi all,
Has anyone got a direct link to battery status? i have wm6 business edition final installed as its the only one that seems to work 100% lol.
Also what speed would be safe to overclock to? i was told 245mhz but i just wana check, and what impact will this have on my battery life?

cobra2222 said:
Hi all,
Has anyone got a direct link to battery status? i have wm6 business edition final installed as its the only one that seems to work 100% lol.
Also what speed would be safe to overclock to? i was told 245mhz but i just wana check, and what impact will this have on my battery life?
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HI
http://rapidshare.com/files/23427029/BattStatusExt1.04Beta3.CAB
regards

thx m8,
is it safe for me to run on 247mhz?

cobra2222 said:
thx m8,
is it safe for me to run on 247mhz?
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Hi
My burns at 273...

is that safe? hows ure battery life

cobra2222 said:
is that safe? hows ure battery life
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with me it works...
but i don't now if safe....
Batery arounds, in standby 12mA
In hard work....goes to +/-200mA

anyone know what the 'safe' overclocking setting is? i dont want it to burn itself out in time!

cobra2222 said:
anyone know what the 'safe' overclocking setting is? i dont want it to burn itself out in time!
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in my opinion...
any overcloking is not safe...

Dont go past 280 and you'll be fine

Mines it at 286 with BS, but in TCPMP it says only 260 While omapclock says 264 so i don't know which is right. My battery life with CPU scaler is pretty much the same as always. Although i do feel sometimes like the batter dies faster, like 30 min - 1 hour shorter life, so its not too bad. as for safety, i have been running it at 264 since i got the phone about a year ago, and then when i went to WM6 i did what i said earlier with batter status. Sometimes my screen goes white and blurry and stuff but if i just slide out the keyboard barely and put it back, it works fine. Don't know if its from the over clocking or just from overuse.

im running at 247mhz. although i am scared that itll burn itself out 6months down the line. can i safely up the speed more?

try and tell us...

i am running at 299 mhz, and it works fine on the MBE, and WM05 also

You know what funny is with OC on wizard? i never know what REAL speed is.
TCPMP shows one thing, omapclocker other, battery status another one...
i know about multiplier, but still have feeling, that its not exactly known, how buses are timed while OC. i noticed that less mhz not always = less power, so memory bus may be crucial.
what memory is in wizard? sdram 133? 100?
anybody knows mechanism?
i am curious.
xscale was so easy...

About CPU

Hi. My question us what CPU speed can I use before the desire s takes damage? Thanks
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Would not go over 1200mhz for general use but in the end it comes down to heat and chip quality. Some chips will run faster and produce less heat then others, you'll have to test yours! Don't over volt even if it is possible?
That's about all I can give you on the matter.
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.

Okay. Thank you guys
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bronx said:
um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
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Good response, I bought a Desire S recently too and feared the "single core" 1 GHz CPU wouldn't be much faster than my Legend clocked at 768 MHz, after all it is only 232 MHz difference. Couldn't have been more wrong. The phone is a beast.

1.2 ghz is a good speed if you wanna overclock (& also this speed is more than enough)
1.4-1.5 ghz is the limit, anything more than that is very unstable and can cause damage to your cpu

Hey guys. I have a Desire HD. Although they're different phones, i'm sure the internals are almost exactly the same, bar few differences. As such, the cpu should also be the same. I tried out different cpu speeds. I kept my phone at 1.72ghz for a couple of weeks. The phone got pretty hot when using Wifi and such, but didn't get too hot. I'd say the safe point is 1.5ghz but at the stock voltage. Works for me, should work for you guys too I can get 1.7ghz at 1325mv, which is good enough for me I didn't get random crashes etc. My persona highest on this phone was around 2.1 ghz, which was insanely high, the phone was super fast, but got hot blazing hot and the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
Always be careful. If you have insurance, then go ahead and by all means clock the hell out of it if you don't mind a decrease in battery life. But if you have no insurance, and bought it sim-free...i'd suggest 1.3ghz...better be safe than sorry, wouldn't you agree?

the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
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Haha, bet that was a ball-shrinking moment. Made me laugh reading it.
But seriously, considering the potential damage & the native performance of the DS you wouldn't want to go crazy really.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.

ffodi said:
Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking

kartkk said:
why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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Thanks for the answer! I overclocked it to 1,5GHz becouse I like it if everything is fast as lightning.
I know it can consume more battery, but it's not a problem for me.
I've read that post, it's useful thanks, but i think if everything is on stock voltage it cant hurt the cpu. I overclock my desktop rig also since ~15 years, and never had problems with that. I know that it's not the same, but I hope there will be no problems with that.

Is 1.5Ghz too high?

I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.

monkey hung said:
I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.
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To answer your question, each device will have a differing operational ceiling depending on the quality of the SoC, soldering, silk-screening etc. They aren't all created equal. If 1.5GHz works fine for you, stick with it I see OC kernels pushing to 1.8GHz now.
Naturally the higher you go the hotter your SoC will run, so I'd play around and find the point where you gain some performance, but negligible heat over stock. Heat will kill not only your SoC, but your battery as well.
I'm only going from personal experience, but I've never found an OC to be worth it in terms of an actual, real-life performance increase, on any device. It looks good in benchmarks, but I'd rather have a phone that was smooth as butter in day-to-day operation than a jerky piece of sh*t that gets 10,000 in Quadrant YMMV of course!
The heat stress and battery drainage costs, plus stability issues, outweigh the positives for me.

How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?

monkey hung said:
How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?
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Most of the Sensation ROMs feature what's called an OC Daemon.
This is pretty much an automatic overclocker of sorts. It can change your clock ceiling/floor automatically depending on load. Read a bit more about it here.
If you have something like SetCPU installed, the Daemon is redundant, giving you manual control over your clocks. The easiest way to return to 'stock' frequencies would be to simply delete SetCPU and allow the Daemon to do it's thing

Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob

monkey hung said:
Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob
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I couldn't see whether the daemon in included on LeeDroid, or whether LeeDroid has actually just modified the frequency tables (list of supported frequencies) to allow for the ~1730MHz ceiling. If the daemon is there, it'll already be working for you - you don't see it
I don't believe it's something you can just download and tack on. I think you'd have to be running a supported ROM. You may need to dig a little deeper into the LeeDroid thread and do some reading, or perhaps retitle this thread to ask 'Does LeeDroid include the OC Daemon' or something similar.
Sorry I can't be more help, I'm a devout Android Revolution HD supporter myself, although I am running the UNITY kernel.
Good luck mate!

personally I can't see the need to over clock, given that all software is probably written for devices currently in use, I do not know of any dual core 1.5 or higher phones, so why oc ?
I agree , I would rather have a fast stable phone, than some jerky fc piece of ****e that gets 10000 jiggawatts in a benchmark, and that can cook my crumpets..................... on second thoughts, I do like my crumpets.

[Q] to overclock? or not to overclock?

Its it worth the time and sage to overclock the galaxy s2 skyrocket?
I have heard it will ruin the phone our that you can't maker it much faster without overheating it.
I'm new to cell modification and i'm interested in learning
The truth of the mater.
Any help is appreciated.

If you are just normal user than stock is good for u.
BUt if u are heavy gamer and play online games and other stuff OC is worth doin it.
OC will make your phone run some what fast but since you are new i don't think you will feel the difference unless you start doing benchmark. Plus stock might get you good battery life.
trob81 said:
Its it worth the time and sage to overclock the galaxy s2 skyrocket?
I have heard it will ruin the phone our that you can't maker it much faster without overheating it.
I'm new to cell modification and i'm interested in learning
The truth of the mater.
Any help is appreciated.
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The other alternative is to undervolt. Some people will use an overclocked kernel, set it to stock values and lower the voltage of the higher CPU speeds for better battery life.
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Thanks for the info really helped me decide if i'm going to overclock. Being i'm just a user and not gaming I think its best I don't. I do like the sounds of underclocking as way to save battery life as phoneguy589 had said. appreciate the input guys.

I under clock mine can't tell a difference honestly
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I underclock and undervolted mine, battery life has significantly improved, but I'm a heavy user so its still bad

For my purposes I haven't noticed much difference in OC-ing (I don't do a lot of gaming). For me it's not really worth placing the extra burden on the processor (or the potential to fry the processor--not sure how great that potential is but there are always dangers to overclocking).

[Q] Overclocking but no Exploding

Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?

MaLing15 said:
Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?
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Don't overclock that high. 2419MHz at most. Overclocking too high will cause more heat and throttle earlier, only useful for a short benchmark such as HWBot Prime or Quadrant (Antutu takes longer and will overheat by the time it finishes). Trinity also supports up to 3014MHz, OP hasn't been updated.

MaLing15 said:
Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?
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You don't want to push the phone too much I think the Nexus 5 runs at 2.3 GHz. 2.7 MAY not be too bad but honestly, the phone runs pretty smooth as is. What benefits are you looking for from overclocking?

Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge. You know.. To get the MOST out of the Phone while at the same time being Safe.

if you really wanted, the phone won't explode if you run it at 3015mhz either. the worst that will happen is that your phone won't be able to run that high, and will freeze and reboot.
and don't listen to all.. run your phone how YOU like. yes, it'll cause a little(not much) more heat, and will throttle a little earlier, but that's why people like me disable throttle, so that's a non issue. I run my phone at high CPU speeds all the time, and use 2880mhz high/300mhz low quite often. just because I feel like it, no other reason.
oh, I run trinity as well, and do all of Trinity's testing

MaLing15 said:
Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge. You know.. To get the MOST out of the Phone while at the same time being Safe.
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It's just what @jsgraphicart said. You're not really getting more out of your phone by overclocking. It's not going to run smoother, and most games don't lag anyway so they probably won't run better. I think most people just do it for benchmarks or just to check if it can run on a certain clockspeed.
Also what @simms22 said. You can do it if you want to, but simply because you want to because as far as I know there aren't really any benefits.

Back in my Palm Pre days, we used to overclock that thing to 1GHz. The default setting was 500MHz. I think it was even pushed to 1.2GHz. And it ran fine. But back then, you could tell the difference between a little lag at 500MHz and smoothness at 1GHz. With this phone and how Android has gotten smoother with every update, it's kind of hard to see any difference when overclocking. It will be smooth regardless.

oh, benefits, not really. a little more speed, yes. bit I would never call it a benefit, unless the speed difference was drastic, and its not.

As mentioned, overclocking the CPU can actually turn out to run slower because of aggressive thermal throttling. You could disable or extend the thermal throttling, but 2.3Ghz is already plenty fast for today's mobile software so you won't notice any difference in day to day usage.

bblzd said:
As mentioned, overclocking the CPU can actually turn out to run slower because of aggressive thermal throttling. You could disable or extend the thermal throttling, but 2.3Ghz is already plenty fast for today's mobile software so you won't notice any difference in day to day usage.
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Even if you run your phone at 2880MHz/3014MHz/whatever with thermal throttle off, you can't really do anything too intensive as it'll hit 105C and shutoff lol

Lethargy said:
Even if you run your phone at 2880MHz/3014MHz/whatever with thermal throttle off, you can't really do anything too intensive as it'll hit 105C and shutoff lol
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actually, no, youre wrong. when you run your phone at 2880/300 or 3014/300, you phone will hardly scale up that high, sometimes it will. you wont see any real difference between those high cpu speeds and running it at 2265/300. and battery will be similar. the difference will be if you run it at 2880/2880 or 3014/3014. now i run my phone at 2880/300 very often, and you know i disable thermal throttle. yet, i see no difference in temperatures, except if im doing something thats very cpu intensive.

simms22 said:
actually, no, youre wrong. when you run your phone at 2880/300 or 3014/300, you phone will hardly scale up that high, sometimes it will. you wont see any real difference between those high cpu speeds and running it at 2265/300. and battery will be similar. the difference will be if you run it at 2880/2880 or 3014/3014. now i run my phone at 2880/300 very often, and you know i disable thermal throttle. yet, i see no difference in temperatures, except if im doing something thats very cpu intensive.
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Ah true. But still, a bit easier to hit it if doing something intensive Not to mention it may be a little unstable on some devices

Lethargy said:
Ah true. But still, a bit easier to hit it if doing something intensive Not to mention it may be a little unstable on some devices
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on some devices??? on most devices! anyways, stability is overrated

LOL...no explosions on XDA allowed!