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SDHC & XP Compatibility Issues

Hi Folks
I've trawled the forums but I can't see anything directly relational about this matter.
Basically I bought a 4gb SDHC card which didn't work, so I returned it. The replacement has the same issue. Having looked a bit around I found there was a hotfix from Microsoft (google ms hotfix sdhc).
Considering how people here use their PDAs I thought there would be some mention.
Perhaps I am the only one who does not have Windows up to date and thus this is the reason
Oh, and you need a validated XP to get this hotfix. Still, to be expected I suppose....

Some Secure Digital (SD) cards do not work correctly on Windows XP-based computers. Additionally, you may notice a yellow exclamation mark (!) next to the SD card in Device Manager.
This problem may occur even though you have applied other hotfixes that are required for high-capacity SD card support. For more information, click the following article numbers to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
923293 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923293/) The 923293 hotfix adds support for SD High Capacity memory cards in Windows XP
934428 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428/) Hotfix for Windows XP that adds support for SDHC cards that have a capacity of more than 4 GB
However, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923293/ means that you need to tell them about your situation before they let you have the file. I've already downloaded 934428 so we'll see where that takes me

Which puts me back at square one, because I still can't read SDHC cards through the PC. I can access it through the PDA and it seems to work ok there but not through the actual card reader.
Thod

I believe the Microsoft hotfixes are specific to certain readers. Other readers (for example, the memory card slots on a monitor) use a different driver, which needs to be updated.
For example, I have a Dell 2405FPW, and it is not compatible with SDHC, even after the Microsoft hotfix. However, I can read my SDHC card using the USB adapter that came with the SDHC (actually microSDHC), even without the Microsoft hotfix.

These hotfixes are for XP not the device. The device can read it ok, but MS Windows XP can't!!!
I have got around it now. Plug the SDHC into the PDA, and the PDA into the computer. Bit slow but gets there in the end!

are you sure your card reader supports sdhc?
i had a (old) microsd to sd card convertor, that wasn't capible of reading sdhc? did the card reader come with your sdhc card?

I found out on the DELL official website the firmware upgrade for the reader and the SDHC Patch.
Problem is that they did the updates exclusively for there desktop brands and not for the DELL monitor apart.
So.. if someone can tweak the firmware and the driver to bypass these check routines, maybe we can succeed?
Here are the links:
Driver (SDHC Patch): http://support.dell.com/support/dow...1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=32&fileid=240264
Firmware:
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=32&fileid=240271

I recently purchased a Toshiba R500 notebook which has a SD card reader built-in. I was unable to get my SDHC cards to work in it until I ran the XP SP3 upgrade on my Notebook. Apparently it has all of the new drivers included in the fix. Now the card reader works with all my cards including my 8gb microSDHC with SD adapter.

I have SP3 on my XP and that does not solve my problem

SP3 doesn't help! Boo!!!
Any one found a solution fro this problem. I just installed SP3 and still no dice reading Micro SDHC cards with builtin card reader or with usb readers. Readers will detect but say to insert a disk when an 4 or 8 gb card is inserted. 1 and 2 gb cards (non sdhc) seem to work fine.
Hot fixes will not install over SP3 says newer service pack already installed.
I guess ill try to get the wmstorage working on my device for the mean time, it is somewhat more quicker than using active synch for data transfers between my the device and computer.

Check under device manager what is the brand of your built-in card reader and google the company to see if they have a firmware update or new drivers for the unit.

wovens said:
Check under device manager what is the brand of your built-in card reader and google the company to see if they have a firmware update or new drivers for the unit.
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Too bad, it seems to be generic... "Generic USB Card Reader Driver v2.2e4" eMachines site has a northstar media reader driver maybe I'll try that. I wsould do a search with vendor ID and Product ID but card reader seems to be inactive unless there is a card less than 2 gb installed. I'll also investigate that, after i locate a non sdhc card. No dice with the external usb reader either... vid 058f pid 6335. Found drivers for this guy but no firmware.
Maybe ill drop by an electronics store and see if any card readers indicate they can read sdhc cards. Active Sync xfers are sloooow! WM5storage is slightly faster, but not as quick as a working card reader...

older readers are not compatible with sdhc cards and only fix is a firmware upgrade
i got a microSdhc card and it could not be read by
sandisk cruze sd to usb using the sd->microSd conveter
thinkpad t61 with sd->microSd conveter
sandisk 8-1 usb reader sd->microSd conveter
but hp tx1270 had no problems using sd->microSd conveter
got a sandisk micoSD to usb thingy and everybody reads it just fine

I guess i need a new card reader!
Rudegar said:
older readers are not compatible with sdhc cards and only fix is a firmware upgrade
i got a microSdhc card and it could not be read by
sandisk cruze sd to usb using the sd->microSd conveter
thinkpad t61 with sd->microSd conveter
sandisk 8-1 usb reader sd->microSd conveter
but hp tx1270 had no problems using sd->microSd conveter
got a sandisk micoSD to usb thingy and everybody reads it just fine
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My 8 gb micro came with a generic SD card reader and sd adaper, but no dice. My eMachines is kind of an older notebook, so im not surprised that i wouldnt work... I guess i was hoping newer drivers would correct this issue but no cigar. I had a transflash/micro sd reader that came with my DS Modchip but no dice with that either.
i will go to and look for a name brand card reader such as your sandisk adapter. At least with a name brand i will have better support than with my current generic readers.
Any additional info on your sandisk reader?
Thanks everbody for all of your help!

SanDisk MediaMate
jamorgan2008 said:
My 8 gb micro came with a generic SD card reader and sd adaper, but no dice. My eMachines is kind of an older notebook, so im not surprised that i wouldnt work... I guess i was hoping newer drivers would correct this issue but no cigar. I had a transflash/micro sd reader that came with my DS Modchip but no dice with that either.
i will go to and look for a name brand card reader such as your sandisk adapter. At least with a name brand i will have better support than with my current generic readers.
Any additional info on your sandisk reader?
Thanks everbody for all of your help!
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Pocked up a SanDisk MediaMate SD+ at Staples. The reader works great!

i have a 4gb dane-elec micro sdhc card and it doesnt work on my htc tytn or my pc.
i tried doing the xp hotfix but it wont let me complete because it says i have sp3.it does work however in my nokia n95....i formatted it there many times but it my pc or tytn still wont detect it...
any help please?
i have brought it back to the store twice and the problem still remains....

Nokia N82 Memory Card Format

Hello, I'm new to this forum and have a question about Micro SD Cards in Nokia phones.
Basically I bought a Nokia N82, which included a 2GB Micro SD Card in the package. When I look at the card in a card reader with Win XP, it reports the format as RAW and can see the files on it.
There is an option in the Nokia phone to format the SD Card. I did this in fact with an 8GB SanDisk Micro SDHC Card and it worked OK in the phone but now I cannot read it in the XP Card Reader.
I think I read that it is best to format the SD card with the phone for best performance. I am not familiar with this RAW Format (though I know about RAW files).
What format does Nokia (Symbian) use for formatting it's SD cards?
Anyone know if it is possible to read this 8GB SDHC Card formatted in the Nokia, in WinXP? I did see some comment about 4GB limits, which required Microsoft patches and anyway, the 8GB card could be read by the card reader (FAT format) before I reformatted in the Nokia.
Any ideas please?
Thanks
knotlob

ok. now heres the thing. This is a WINDOWS MOBILE forum. The N82 doesn't run on Windows Mobile.
But anyway, about your question. Does the FAT formatted microsd work on your phone? If so, i don't see what the matter is.

fzzyrn said:
ok. now heres the thing. This is a WINDOWS MOBILE forum. The N82 doesn't run on Windows Mobile.
But anyway, about your question. Does the FAT formatted microsd work on your phone? If so, i don't see what the matter is.
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Thanks - sorry was not thinking - originally joined the forum for the Dell Axim PDA info!!
The question was that having formatted my 8GB SDHC card on the Nokia, I cannot read it in Win XP and wondered what format it would be in now and if it was possible to read it in Win XP with a patch, etc. It would be easier to transfer files from the PC to the SDHC Card using a card reader than the phone I think.
knotlob

Knotlob said:
Hello, I'm new to this forum and have a question about Micro SD Cards in Nokia phones.
Basically I bought a Nokia N82, which included a 2GB Micro SD Card in the package. When I look at the card in a card reader with Win XP, it reports the format as RAW and can see the files on it.
There is an option in the Nokia phone to format the SD Card. I did this in fact with an 8GB SanDisk Micro SDHC Card and it worked OK in the phone but now I cannot read it in the XP Card Reader.
I think I read that it is best to format the SD card with the phone for best performance. I am not familiar with this RAW Format (though I know about RAW files).
What format does Nokia (Symbian) use for formatting it's SD cards?
Anyone know if it is possible to read this 8GB SDHC Card formatted in the Nokia, in WinXP? I did see some comment about 4GB limits, which required Microsoft patches and anyway, the 8GB card could be read by the card reader (FAT format) before I reformatted in the Nokia.
Any ideas please?
Thanks
knotlob
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How nice, not only does nokia apparently have a windows mobile solution they also appear to use SDHC now.
Soon symbian might even end up as a proper programming language and not some deformed java throwback!

16GB microSD [Class 4]... Error or Scam?

Does anyone know a reason why a 16gb [class 4] would only let 8gb (7.5) be written to it?
It is a Kingston, and I am fairly certain the card is authentic. It indicated a full 16gb capacity out of the box, but got the "cannot copy or create: parameter is incorrect" message when 7.5gb was reached. Tried a format, and now 7.5gb is the recognized figure. At the moment am using a SanDisk ImageMate All-in-One reader (brand new; has a dedicated microsd slot, but will only read it through the SD slot via adapter).
Any thoughts? (and I hope it's not that someone went through the trouble of re-labelling it and programming it to read a false capacity)
Thanks everyone

those traits you mentioned are very viable symptoms for a fake memory card.

-Does your OS recognise it as a 16 GB? My computer -> Removable device -> Properties??-
Sorry misread your post
Have you tried it on another pc and/or with another cardreader (or maybe just with your handset, plug in your sd-card and use it as a cardreader)
Daan

btw, not all readers are capable of reading 16gbs... might want to try another one tho it does sound as if it's a fake

[Q] microSD help

Hello kind people. Seens i had my Transformer ICS i never bothered to use microSD card but no i travel a lot and watch movies on it. So recently i bought 16gb class 2 microSD card tried to use it in the microSD slot. Yes i formatted it in to Fat32 and it works perfectly well with card reader in any PC, but when i put it in the tablet it recognises that there is a microSD card in but it takes some long time and it does not see anything on the card, i can create folders and copy small files, not cut and past. After i do that i put the card in the PC and there is no any files or folders that i created on the tablet. But if i put it in the dock via SD to microSD adaptor it sees everything that on the card. Can some one suggest any answer to my troubles. Thank you all

Romashka87 said:
Hello kind people. Seens i had my Transformer ICS i never bothered to use microSD card but no i travel a lot and watch movies on it. So recently i bought 16gb class 2 microSD card tried to use it in the microSD slot. Yes i formatted it in to Fat32 and it works perfectly well with card reader in any PC, but when i put it in the tablet it recognises that there is a microSD card in but it takes some long time and it does not see anything on the card, i can create folders and copy small files, not cut and past. After i do that i put the card in the PC and there is no any files or folders that i created on the tablet. But if i put it in the dock via SD to microSD adaptor it sees everything that on the card. Can some one suggest any answer to my troubles. Thank you all
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** What brand?
** 16 GB with Class 2 can be very slow very often.
** In some cases, windows can do funny things to cards formatted on windows, when used with android. A very good time-tested software for formatting sd cards is from Panasonic here: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html
Try formatting with this.
Good luck!

Romashka87 said:
Hello kind people. Seens i had my Transformer ICS i never bothered to use microSD card but no i travel a lot and watch movies on it. So recently i bought 16gb class 2 microSD card tried to use it in the microSD slot. Yes i formatted it in to Fat32 and it works perfectly well with card reader in any PC, but when i put it in the tablet it recognises that there is a microSD card in but it takes some long time and it does not see anything on the card, i can create folders and copy small files, not cut and past. After i do that i put the card in the PC and there is no any files or folders that i created on the tablet. But if i put it in the dock via SD to microSD adaptor it sees everything that on the card. Can some one suggest any answer to my troubles. Thank you all
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Also try to have the Transformer format the card instead of using Windows to format the card. There are probably several little differences in formatting with Windows versus the Android device. For instance a movie that is over 4GB in size or something similar to that may or may not appear.

MicroSD Card Problems

I've seen other threads allude to this, but I've been wondering if anyone else has had any of these problems with microSD cars in the Phab2 Pro and know of any solutions?
Things I've encountered:
No exFAT support, so you need to format larger cards as FAT32 (not really a problem per se, but annoying).
All the Samsung EVO/EVO+ SD cards I've tried in this thing do fine as portable SD cards until it exceeds around 10GB, then a re-boot or re-mount claims the card is corrupted. Mounting the card on my PC/Mac shows no problems.
Adoptable storage works for my large 128GB EVO+ card (which made me not return the phone), but I notice that my 64GB EVO card can't be adopted and the error is a weird toast message:
"java.util.concurrent.TimeoutException: Thread Binder gave up waiting after 180000ms" (something to this effect from my recollection).
I should point out that these SD cards have never had problems on other Android devices I've owned, so it seems very specific to this device. Basically, the only workaround I have right now that works for me is to use adoptable storage and that is adequate for my needs.

The Lenovo Phab2 Pro, by default, reformats newly installed microSD cards to a better file system than FAT32. See post below:

Not FAT32
Got my new Samsung 64GB microSD card & installed it in my Phab2 Pro last weekend. First thing, the Phab2 Pro reported that the card was not formatted properly and did I want it reformatted? I did and it did.
Looking now at the newly formatted microSD card with ES File Explorer and with Lenovo's bundled File Manager, I couldn't tell which standard the card was formatted to.
To the point, I plugged the phone into my laptop, navigated to the microSD card in Windows File Explorer and copied a 6GB file to it, no problem. I verified that the copy was successful by disconnecting the phone from the laptop and opening the file in Android.
I don't know which file system the Phab2 Pro uses by default to format microSD cards but I know it ISN'T FAT32. FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB and, since the microSD card supports larger files (after allowing the phone to reformat the card to its default file system), it isn't FAT32.

roebling said:
Got my new Samsung 64GB microSD card & installed it in my Phab2 Pro last weekend. First thing, the Phab2 Pro reported that the card was not formatted properly and did I want it reformatted? I did and it did.
Looking now at the newly formatted microSD card with ES File Explorer and with Lenovo's bundled File Manager, I couldn't tell which standard the card was formatted to.
To the point, I plugged the phone into my laptop, navigated to the microSD card in Windows File Explorer and copied a 6GB file to it, no problem. I verified that the copy was successful by disconnecting the phone from the laptop and opening the file in Android.
I don't know which file system the Phab2 Pro uses by default to format microSD cards but I know it ISN'T FAT32. FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB and, since the microSD card supports larger files (after allowing the phone to reformat the card to its default file system), it isn't FAT32.
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Any idea what file system Windows thinks it is? I didn't think it was exFAT since a fresh format of exFAT from Windows gets the "not formatted properly" message.
I've since given up on this phone--too many problems for me to tolerate. I really wanted to like it, but alas, when my three year old Z Ultra behaves better, I just can't justify paying this much for it. Maybe I got a lemon.

kumodog said:
Any idea what file system Windows thinks it is? I didn't think it was exFAT since a fresh format of exFAT from Windows gets the "not formatted properly" message.
I've since given up on this phone--too many problems for me to tolerate. I really wanted to like it, but alas, when my three year old Z Ultra behaves better, I just can't justify paying this much for it. Maybe I got a lemon.
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You have two formatting choices for microSD cards with the Phab2 Pro. You can choose to format the card as "portable storage" or "internal storage".

I just put in a 64GB microSD card and had the phone format it as portable storage, I then ejected it and mounted it in Windows and the Disk Manager tool reports the card as formatted as FAT32 (see attachment).

Installed a SanDisk 256GB card model (SDSQUNI-256G-GN6MA)
Let the phone format the card, choose internal storage, then it asked to move files, pics and apps to the new card, I clicked accept.
It worked! Phone reads the card, so far no issues, see attached pic.

128GB or 256 ?
Hi,
you said in the last message you have a 256GB card, but i have seen the phab 2 pro take 128 and no more. I have the 690M model.
256 or 128 GB ?
Thanks,
Philippe

I have the 690Y and took a chance to see if the 256GB card would work and it does. That's why I listed the model number of the SD card. Even though Lenovo states on their website up to 128GB, it looks like it's​ a hit or miss on which card you use as others have posted.

Hi,
Thanks for your answer. The 256G is to expansive so i took a 128G (SDSQUNC-128G-GN6MA). It works fine.
Philippe

Hi please help me!,any brand of sd card it shows corrupted,but if i tried to other phone it worked. What will i do?