Hi all,
watch this video. Someone may implement a process maneger like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWOkI_Urwo&feature=player_embedded
die-hard said:
Hi all,
watch this video. Someone may implement a process maneger like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWOkI_Urwo&feature=player_embedded
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Need to be more specific, watched it twice and saw no process manager
Did see the set of actions for a contact.
Agreed. There was no process manager/task switcher to be found in that video. Not to mention it's just a rendered version and it will perform differently in real life.
Maybe he meant the part where the screen spins like a top and when it stops there's a different app open. That happens when I throw my phone in the air and catch it. Try that.
InGeNeTiCs said:
Agreed. There was no process manager/task switcher to be found in that video. Not to mention it's just a rendered version and it will perform differently in real life.
Maybe he meant the part where the screen spins like a top and when it stops there's a different app open. That happens when I throw my phone in the air and catch it. Try that.
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Sorry for my English. Try watching the video at 1:25 min. I refer to the way they are selected background applications
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Sorry for my English. Try watching the video at 1:25 min. I refer to the way they are selected background applications
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Take a look again. Those aren't background applications, they are actually open webpages.
That's a pretty slick intercace. Seems like a win7 + web os mashup.
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Like the one in SPB mobile shell, but for apps rather than avalible screens.
like this one http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
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Like the one in SPB mobile shell, but for apps rather than avalible screens.
like this one http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
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not sure about this.... what if only 2 open apps? or 20 apps? how to scroll? What seems more user friendly is something like coverflow/music tab, per app like one screenshot and can swipe between apps. It is however a very big load for the system i think....
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not sure about this.... what if only 2 open apps? or 20 apps? how to scroll? What seems more user friendly is something like coverflow/music tab, per app like one screenshot and can swipe between apps. It is however a very big load for the system i think....
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if you open 2 apps, then you have 2 windows opposite to each others, with 20 windows then big carousel .
system usage not going to be much unless you are navigating the task switcher, but once it dissapear then no need for it to run with full memory
Hmm...
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if you open 2 apps, then you have 2 windows opposite to each others, with 20 windows then big carousel .
system usage not going to be much unless you are navigating the task switcher, but once it dissapear then no need for it to run with full memory
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Having a look at this now... It is actually a little more complex than you think though. Even before we go anywhere near the carousel part (3D is well out of my league) you still have to think about how your going to get the screenshots to display on it:
Windows only actually performs paint operations on active windows therefore we need to take screenshots of that active window, how are we going to do that?
a) Use a timer taking screen shots at regular intervals (every few secs or so) of the currently active window using the last one taken as the screenshot when inactive - Obviously this still does require both memory and proc time to perform even when whatever UI you create is not actually active. This however is the most likely to work solution to the problem.
b) See if there is any way you can catch a window at the moment it is being minimized - This is potentially difficult but would probably be the most accurate. However this is may not actually possible (need to research a little more though) - i.e. can you actually catch the window before it actually minimizes or are you always going to be too late and end up capturing nothing. Kind of like trying to photograph a bullet from a gun using a handheld camera by listening for the sound of it firing (capturing the close event on the window and acting on it before the actual window it was sent to acts on that event) <---- Maybe a more experienced dev has some thought on this?
I also agree with mouki a little on this one in terms of usability. As much as your idea is much cooler to look at after about two days I would want to swap it for something where I could actually efficiently switch between tasks rather than rolling through an endless carousel trying to find that *bloody* app I wanted to switch too.
I'm going to see what I can come up with but I think it's going to end up being tile based as that is the most efficient as you'll be able to see more at one time but definitely like the idea of having thumbnails rather than just names for a switcher...
However I'm working on another project though at the mo (Leo as a fully customisable remote control for our PC's) so wont have much time just now to look at a switcher project, however will keep you posted on what I find out...
this will be more usable really in terms of switching, as you will have photo of what you are switching to rather than just a name.
it all depends on how your memeory works really.
remember how you switch windows in MS windows with alt tab, or win+tab.
its less usage on the brain that way.
as for closing, you dont care about closing, since once its closed then there is no need to display. what you care about is minimizing, or when win is inactive.
I can do this type of application on the PC very easily using AutoHotKey script. however I have no clue how PPC programing is done
A starter for ten
Fortunately my background in programming comes from the .net framework so it's reasonably easy to make the jump to .net compact framework ppc (even if I've got to get used to the reduced ammount of functions). I can see how this would be different for you... I've just taken a look at what AutoHotKey is probably the nearest equivelent for you would be MortScript (Pretty powerful)
Heres our starter for ten anyway in vb.net: http://anoriginalidea.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/getting-a-screenshot-using-vbnet-on-the-compact-framework-20/ <--- This shows the library that would be used to capture the screen shots.
Ok, I just got my Xoom. Some apps, like Pandora, dont close and dont have a option to. How do I close them?
And how do I close the windows that are open when I hit one of the bottom left keys?
sorry, im really new lol
There is no need to close applications in Android.
But if you really want to close a applcation, go to Settings > Applications > Running click on application you want to close and click Stop.
I came across in interesting article that shows why Android doesn't need a task killer which is in line with your question. So apparently the OS "knows" what apps need to stay in memory and which can be killed.
Good article. Also new to Android. Helps to understand how this all works.
I haven't been able to get Pandora to turn off either but that's the only app that I've had issues with. I can pause it, but the icon still reflects near the clock, which annoys me. I usually just kill it from within settings.
More often than not, you can just back out of the programs by hitting the left arrow a number of times. Otherwise just let HC deal with it accordingly, hit Home and move on. I'm learning it'll free up memory when it needs it.
I havent used pandora on the xoom, but on my epic theres an "exit" button in the menu
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I haven't been able to get Pandora to turn off either but that's the only app that I've had issues with. I can pause it, but the icon still reflects near the clock, which annoys me. I usually just kill it from within settings.
More often than not, you can just back out of the programs by hitting the left arrow a number of times. Otherwise just let HC deal with it accordingly, hit Home and move on. I'm learning it'll free up memory when it needs it.
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That's how I've been closing apps too. Did you get pandora from the market? I installed it from the market and it won't run on my xoom.
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That's how I've been closing apps too. Did you get pandora from the market? I installed it from the market and it won't run on my xoom.
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theres a thread somewhere with a fixed apk..
DroidHam said:
theres a thread somewhere with a fixed apk..
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Cool. Thanks. I'll look for it.
I'm using the apk from some other tablet, cant remember which one it was. There's no exit that I've found yet on that version. I don't use it that often so its not a huge concern, just an annoyance.
Nice article... So Android make a kind of save state of the app and leaves its resources to the app in need... clever!
Saying that you dont need to close App's because Android "knows" is just redic. We all have task-manager's on Android why is Honeycomb different? Simply put it isn't and we just have no working solution currently. Why do I say this?
When I have several app's open you can tell the system slow's down. Why can I not close the App's I wont be continuously using?
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Saying that you dont need to close App's because Android "knows" is just redic. We all have task-manager's on Android why is Honeycomb different? Simply put it isn't and we just have no working solution currently. Why do I say this?
When I have several app's open you can tell the system slow's down. Why can I not close the App's I wont be continuously using?
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You can. Put a shortcut on the homescreen to battery usage and close the that you're done with. There's really no need to close them anyways.
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Hey guys, if you are ever having an issue with a certain app and need to force close it.
Hit the home button, go into the app tray, long press the app and drag it up to the (i), then from there click Force Stop
In this same vein, is there a way to keep an App from being automatically closed? For example, AOL Instant Messenger never seems to close but GTalk disappears after some inactivity.
I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...
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I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...
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Yes,this is a design inconsistency.I have mentioned in another thread...if you use windows button to exit an app,then the next time you open it,you will need to relaunh the app again. Unless,you long pres back button in order to let the app go into multitask mode. Then you only press windows button. If not, the system won't memorize the app. Windows button is simply cancel everything off.
This situation same goes to the live tiles, if you use windows button to exit an app,the live tiles will never update. However, if you use back button,the live tiles will be updated,you can try this by using network dashboard or any live tiles apps.
Please fix the Windows/home button command and functionality,it is just a shame....
To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?
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To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?
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I have no idea with angry birds,but other games yes...even if you long press the back button,it will just relaunch the game,maybe they haven't update the app to mango compatible.
However, IMHO, Microsoft really have to fix the windows/home button command ot functionality,to make it adapt to the fast app switching,multitask/resume and the live tiles.
Yes... Angry birds has not been updated...
And it just seems weird to me that an app thats saved in memory have to start again... I would think its not that hard to fix this....
Ok.. update on my own thoughts. Maybe I'm thinking of something different than you guys, but here's what I found.
I remembered the game 'Penguins' updated right after mango. I tried this out with that game. In the middle of a game, I can pause, hit the windows button, do whatever I want on the phone, then using the multitask menu go back into the game, and I'm back in the game at the pause screen. Alternatively, I can hit the windows button without even pausing it, and I can later resume the game. It appears there's no issue with the software, it's just a matter of how the programmers write the apps. Again, I could be missing the idea here, but I think this is what you guys were talking about
I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.
elcapo24682 said:
I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.
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Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.
You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.
RoboDad said:
You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.
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Yea, I know, I have read some posts at the Nokia device specs out thread talking about this guy.
Troll almost everywhere.
sylau90 said:
Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.
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check tweets from the Me tile, it's really fast. its impossible for an app to remember the last state it was in unless u have a bg agent. its not that hard to use the back button. first people complain /criticize for no multitasking now there's complain/criticize over how its implemented. get a grip.
I agree with the OP. It sucks so bad. I'm no troll, but it takes me much longer to hold the back button and find the instance instead just press windows and first tile.
I'm not even mentioning the problems I'm having with my keyboard auto hiding while i'm typing, and the problem with auto correction in third party apps. Whenever I have an special character, it doesnt overwrite the whole word to correct it. "blahblaç" turns into "blahblaçblahblah". Genious.
Oh, and yeah, you cant use toast notifications! If you use it to redirect to your whatsapp message, it will reload the whole app instead resuming it.
Whats the point of implementing multitasking and turning it so ****ing difficult to use?
Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.
ronclone said:
Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.
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Guess we are alone with this. No one seems to care about how MS implemented it. As long they can use it somehow.
Hi, just wondering if there is anything that can be done about this? I have a Samsung S7 and when I turn the screen off with background play enabled there is a 1 or 2 second pause before the audio continues. Oddly enough I've noticed this is something that afflicts other players with background play abilities as well. The only player I have that doesn't have this pause is podcast addict (it can play videos too). Anyway, it's not the biggest deal in the world but I would classify it under slightly annoying, especially when I feel the need to turn the screen on and off frequently for whatever reason.
Come to think of it... I wonder if podcast addict is buffering and that's why it doesn't run into this problem? Could be. Anyway... any tips, hints, suggestions? If this is an easy fix that would be awesome.
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Hi, just wondering if there is anything that can be done about this? I have a Samsung S7 and when I turn the screen off with background play enabled there is a 1 or 2 second pause before the audio continues. Oddly enough I've noticed this is something that afflicts other players with background play abilities as well. The only player I have that doesn't have this pause is podcast addict (it can play videos too). Anyway, it's not the biggest deal in the world but I would classify it under slightly annoying, especially when I feel the need to turn the screen on and off frequently for whatever reason.
Come to think of it... I wonder if podcast addict is buffering and that's why it doesn't run into this problem? Could be. Anyway... any tips, hints, suggestions? If this is an easy fix that would be awesome.
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No, It's not like that. Infact the pause is intentionally done by the developer to avoid issues on many device while detaching the video surface. It was not there in 1.7.x. but, introduced later on latest 1.8.x as a fix.
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No, It's not like that. Infact the pause is intentionally done by the developer to avoid issues on many device while detaching the video surface. It was not there in 1.7.x. but, introduced later on latest 1.8.x as a fix.
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Thanks for the info. From your answer it sounds like havoc ensues when turning the screen off on some devices. I wonder if the developer would be willing to create an "advanced" setting or something that could control this behavior?
Same issue here. I rely on this feature to help me go to sleep. The starting and stopping is very annoying.
SpongeWorthy76 said:
Same issue here. I rely on this feature to help me go to sleep. The starting and stopping is very annoying.
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ehead said:
Thanks for the info. From your answer it sounds like havoc ensues when turning the screen off on some devices. I wonder if the developer would be willing to create an "advanced" setting or something that could control this behavior?
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We are making an option to make it optional. It will be available on next update.
Thirumalai.K said:
We are making an option to make it optional. It will be available on next update.
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The problem still hasn't been fixed.
Has anyone tried gaming in Dex mode, is it smooth or is there a problem with latency? I want to play ark with my friend, she is poor and can't afford a PC ? I have Ark on Steam which is no use in this case.
I can't deal with 1st/3rd person games on a touch screen, it's a horrible experience, no matter how good they make touch controls, they'll always be awful in those games.
I've tried bluestacks on my PC but ark doesn't run, despite bluestacks plastering it all over their website. According to some Reddit posts it appears they're just liars ?
So gaming on Dex mode....does it work? I've tried every method of casting my phone screen on pc through remote desktops and with usb including with ADB and it's all garbage, the latency makes it unusable.
If the Dex cable or dock works well for gaming on a big screen then I'll buy one, so I'd also like some recommendations for good, 3rd party stations, with usb ports for mouse and keyboard.
I don't know. But one of these I will have a Nintendo or super Nintendo itch that needs to be scratched and I hope it works great. I 2as surprised that their no noticeable latency with a Logitech M570 trackball.
Terrible picture I know, but can anyone tell me what these 3 top icons on the left should be?
I've disabled so much stuff so I'm guessing whatever they are, I've just disabled them in adhell but I can't figure out what they could be.
For whatever reason that picture is sideways even though I took it in portrait.. but it's the 3 green android heads.
beta546 said:
Terrible picture I know, but can anyone tell me what these 3 top icons on the left should be?
I've disabled so much stuff so I'm guessing whatever they are, I've just disabled them in adhell but I can't figure out what they could be.
For whatever reason that picture is sideways even though I took it in portrait.. but it's the 3 green android heads.
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Gallery, Internet, My Files.
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Gallery, Internet, My Files.
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Ah well gallery is on there as I don't have that disabled, but the other two are and I don't need them so that's fine. But what's the third?
beta546 said:
Ah well gallery is on there as I don't have that disabled, but the other two are and I don't need them so that's fine. But what's the third?
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Ah... yeah, could not tell that was gallery. I only see 4 on my desktop, so I dont know what the fifth one you have is.
RGardner said:
Ah... yeah, could not tell that was gallery. I only see 4 on my desktop, so I dont know what the fifth one you have is.
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Okay mate thanks anyway, I was thinking they may be some special Dex apps but if they're just the basics then I have my preferred equivalents installed anyway.
Probably shows Android heads because you disabled apps and those are default apps for DEX.
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Probably shows Android heads because you disabled apps and those are default apps for DEX.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said in the OP haha.