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[APP] Task Identifier [Android 2.1 and up!!!]

!!!If you have Android 2.1 the app now is in the market!!!
Android 2.2 and higher are also still supported
This is not another Auto Task Killer, no.
Thanks for all the help from everyone! We've moved into a lite and full version now on Android 2.2 and 2.3 phones.This is a new program which allows the user to specify alert levels to phone tasks and give you insight into what your phone is really doing. Make a call, ever wonder what apps may be listening? What's going on when you phone is in standby? In creating this, I will say that I've been surprised a few times at what is really going on. I want any and all feedback as well as we are trying to make this into something special. I am the actual developer of this app.
The full version has:
-Common Names and Actual Application Icons
-No Ads
-Access to all App Settings
-Ability to change alert level from List Tasks
-Removed Internet and Location Permissions
And we have a slew of other features planned for only the full version, but we don't want to spill the beans on those quite yet, but they will enhance the tool greatly!
Both versions now have the new UI as well.
Anyone who had the beta should be notified to upgrade to the lite version now.
Download Task Identifier Lite from your phone:
market://search?q=pname:com.task.identifier
Download Task Identifier Full from your phone:
market://search?q=pname:com.task.identifier.full
I've also attached a QR Code to scan for both versions. Or just search for Task Identifier in the market.
I hope you all find this useful and enjoy!!

smart work

notowork said:
smart work
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Thanks!
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Hehe, I like how the only comment for the app (5 stars and "awesome" as comment) is currently by a user named 'x2k'. Hmmm.
I've just installed it and it's been less than a minute and I got an alert from an app that no longer needs to sync...So I disabled it (every little bit of non-sync means longer battery life!).
So far it's looking very promising! I'll definitely report back on my experiences!

Okay, first big thing...
Can you please resolve the cryptic app names to their more friendly name variants?
It's hard to read and make out the com.blah designations.
Thanks!

So far it seems like a cool app. I've been using WatchDog for ages to alert me when an app misbehaves.
But I'm confused about this app. When would you want to be using this? Can you give an example?
I'll keep it installed and see how it goes. Thanks.

Paul22000 said:
So far it seems like a cool app. I've been using WatchDog for ages to alert me when an app misbehaves.
But I'm confused about this app. When would you want to be using this? Can you give an example?
I'll keep it installed and see how it goes. Thanks.
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Thanks for trying. This is more of an app to alert you as to what your phone is doing, ie what loads at a given point in time on your phone.

x2kjosh said:
Thanks for trying. This is more of an app to alert you as to what your phone is doing, ie what loads at a given point in time on your phone.
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Thanks. I'm playing around with it and actively trying to make notifications pop up I opened Facebook and Google Reader started, as did Maps. Weird.
Which brings me to a question: how do we know whether the task started was CAUSED by the current app I'm using, or Android just randomly started it?
For example, it's possible Facebook opened Maps in order to try to get my location, but I don't see the connection between Facebook and Google Reader. Which is why I ask if it's random, or the app I'm using is causing other tasks to run.

Paul22000 said:
Thanks. I'm playing around with it and actively trying to make notifications pop up I opened Facebook and Google Reader started, as did Maps. Weird.
Which brings me to a question: how do we know whether the task started was CAUSED by the current app I'm using, or Android just randomly started it?
For example, it's possible Facebook opened Maps in order to try to get my location, but I don't see the connection between Facebook and Google Reader. Which is why I ask if it's random, or the app I'm using is causing other tasks to run.
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I've found when you start doing things you see patterns. On my old Eris while I was testing this, every time I made a phone call, ebay would start! Glad it seems to be working for you! Thanks!

Great thanks

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Great thanks
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You're welcome.

Sounds like a great troubleshooting tool. Nice work!

I'm liking this app more and more. A few more comments and requests.
Comments
* I like the main app window. Large fonts, long-press to get quick-help or short press to go to the item. Nice
* Screen off app start notification, nice!
Requests
1. Possible to get more detail about why or how an app was triggered? Like, was it triggered by a service? another app? etc. And did the triggered app take any actions? Like sending network traffic or queried the GPS and such?
2. The 'Setup Alerts' window is hard to read through, could you maybe add color so all the status 'Green' items have the word 'Green' in green font and so on?
Just added a 5 star rating on Market, keep up the good work!

Namuna said:
I'm liking this app more and more. A few more comments and requests.
Comments
* I like the main app window. Large fonts, long-press to get quick-help or short press to go to the item. Nice
* Screen off app start notification, nice!
Requests
1. Possible to get more detail about why or how an app was triggered? Like, was it triggered by a service? another app? etc. And did the triggered app take any actions? Like sending network traffic or queried the GPS and such?
2. The 'Setup Alerts' window is hard to read through, could you maybe add color so all the status 'Green' items have the word 'Green' in green font and so on?
Just added a 5 star rating on Market, keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the suggestions. Those are features we truly will consider adding as it will just make the tool even better. Thanks!

There will probably be updates from time to time through the market
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First of all, thanks for a great app.
I really like the fact that it reports on tasks/processes started while the screen was off!
I have some suggestions though:
1: When I click the icon in the app list to open the menu, it just shows the "Starting monitor" message and nothing else. I have to open an app to get the message in the pull down bar and click on that to start the application it self.
2: On my Samsung Galaxy S i9000 the layout of the application is just a bit to long for a full screen. We are talking about 1 cm or something.
3: I would very much like a log, so that I can check back, what applications started during screen off, and at what time/date.
4: The way the Android memory management works, I guess it's normal for Android to start and application/process to memory by itself from time to time. Is it possible to show this somehow? For what is interesting here is when an application is launching another application or process, and not when Android memory management is putting an application in memory.
Thanks for your great work, I'm looking forward to further updates to the application!

Just saw this on the front page and thought it looked pretty interesting. Installed a few minutes ago, but so far I like it. Not too intrusive with the pop-up.
As Namuna posted though it would be nice to get more detail.
Also to have the actual app name rather than com.xxx.
Really good work.

Installed.
I like the idea that we can see what tasks are really doing in the background. But as noted by some above, the notifications are a bit cryptic at the moment.
After installing and running the app, I started updating some of my other apps in App Market and my phone crashed. This has not happened before and I seems from my layman eyes that too many things might have been running in the background.
When the phone restarted, it too forever for anything to be displayed and the 3 widgets I had on the homescreen refused to load up. Again it seems to me that this app is popping up too many notifications - I have now stopped the app from starting up and running on start up.
I don't know whether this is unique to me or not though. I am running the app on Samsung Galaxy S (international) on stock Froyo with LauncherPro.
Still, I like this app and will use it more. Keep up the great work and many thanks.
Edit : just checked app settings again, and although I explicit unchecked app running on phone startup, the box is checked again. I unchecked the box and pressed save again. Re-entered app settings and the box is checked again. Am I missing something?

This looks very interesting.. So it's installed and ready for testing

Thank you very much for that app, it's awesome. I agree with the recent posters that the name of the app in addition to the com.blah.blubb would be a great help to identify the task. Also I'd like to see a possibility for a logfile.
Keep up the good work!
EDIT: I can hardly read the small, dark font when setting task levels since I use almost the very darkest display settings to save battery. So being able to chose the font color would be great but has absolutely no priority. Again: great app!Using it all day long now and I am surprised what tasks are being started!

[Q] how do you close apps?

so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.

What you are asking isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned. There is no other way to close applications other than using the force close button in settings. Android handles this itself -- if this doesn't satisfy you download a task manager.

I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.

modru2004 said:
so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
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There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.

I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?

atoy74 said:
There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
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id like to point out thats NOT the issue.
the issue is the ton of windows you end up having to sort through unless you close them. its a quality of life thing, i don't like having unused unnecessary windows open that i have to sort through to get to the stuff i am using. its just bad form.

foldog22 said:
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
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It will most likely not work until its rewritten. The way 2.2 and now 3.0 allow access is completely different then 2.1 and below. Plus as said about 200 million task there is 0 reason to run a task killer. If you wanna clear them out, even though there is 0 reason, reboot.

Okay, I get the memory management issue, but as the OP pointed out, I've got all sorts of icons in the "task bar area" (bottom right hand corner) that just sit there or keep coming back.
For example, I haven't listened to any music on my Xoom since yesterday morning, yet I've got an icon down there for Music and Rhapsody. Also, there's no way to clear some notifications.
There's got to be a way to at least clear out the notification isn't there?

you tap on the little icon music for example and you will see a little x on the right of it, click that and it closes it from the notification system

There is absolutely no reason to use a task killer or manually kill tasks. 2.2, 2.3, 3.0, etc. handle memory and tasks extremely well. In many cases, task killers will only cost you more battery and more slowdowns than letting tasks just run out and sit in memory. Unless you're seeing rogue or malfunctioning tasks in the background causing slowdowns, there is no need to kill them.
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.

arrtoodeetoo said:
I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
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While I haven't used a task manager since I started learning how android actually works last year when starting to make apps, I can't help but want the same thing in honeycomb for malfunctioning apps. I think google left it out intentionally to discourage task-killing rampages by oblivious users.

Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.

mjpacheco said:
Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Which is exactly why in my first post I said "...isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned" otherwise such a thing is barely necessary. And in your case, the classic "Settings > ....... > Force Close" would have easily sufficed.

So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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martonikaj said:
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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Oddly enough, if you turn to portrait, you get a few more. So, technically its not a hard limit on 5, but rather (literally) limited by space on the screen.
Anyone want to place a bet as to what rev we see scrollability?
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JanetPanic said:
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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bwcorvus said:
If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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I did and it worked. As I said it would be nice to have a more convenient way of force stopping apps that are not behaving.
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Closing apps isn't necessary for two reasons.
1. Android does a good job at managing apps on its own.
2. You have 1GB of RAM to work with.
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Watchdog does a considerable job since it only lets you know when an app is misbehaving. And since being on 2.3 its barely given me any alerts. Perhaps further proving the awesome memory management.
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[Q] True Multitasking?

I'm wondering if there is an app that allows true backgrounding or multitasking in Android. In other words, whenever I switch an app and go somewhere else, and then return back to a previous app, I would expect that app to be in the same state as when I left it.
This currently only happens with a few apps, it's hit or miss. So far I haven't found a fix or an app that resolves this issue. Not to create a fight, but the iPhone had background apps that kept apps in memory so that when you returned the app was in the same exact state as when you left it. Thanks all.

I use the home key in order to do this and it works for the apps that i have done it with. Was just using it this way the other day to jump between file explore and an online post. I would use file explorer hit the home key go back to my browser. Then hit the home key while in the browser and would go back to file explorer and everything in both apps was as i left them. Try that see how it works for you.

Carlrobling said:
I use the home key in order to do this and it works for the apps that i have done it with. Was just using it this way the other day to jump between file explore and an online post. I would use file explorer hit the home key go back to my browser. Then hit the home key while in the browser and would go back to file explorer and everything in both apps was as i left them. Try that see how it works for you.
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Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.
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Did not know that.

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Make sure you hold down the Home key and it will show you your last 8 used apps.
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Thanks I forgot to mention that although I don't usually go that far back in apps lol.

If you hit the back button to exit the app, it will usually exit it- hit the home button and it will background it. Android DOES 100% true multitasking, realize if you run low on ram, the kernel will kill old processes and start killing your oldest used apps as it needs to.

Yes i already knew of the home button function, but that DOES NOT always work! For example lets say im was in the middle of writing a tweet in Tweetcaster and i leave the app (by pressing home) to reference somthing in the Browser. If I then bring up the recent apps and reselect Tweetcaster, my unfinished tweet will be gone as the app will instead be in its starting screen.
Likewise another app that doesnt truly multitask is the WatchESPN app. You'll lose your video if you leave the app no matter what.
There are many other apps that behave like this. I was hoping there was a seperate app that offered "TRUE" multitasking or backgrounding, which keeps apps in memory so that u can return to an app in the exact state as you left it, but for ALL APPS and not just some. Thanks

99% of the apps I've used and use pick up right where I left off, sometimes even days later. There probably is a few that wont as you described, which is probably due more to how the programmer coded the app to exit.
I'd say most (all of my apps do) truely multitask

Don't try the recent apps just try clicking the app itself.
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Webos is the only one
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Carlrobling said:
Don't try the recent apps just try clicking the app itself.
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That doesn't make any difference I don't think. Recent apps is just a list of those same program icons listed in a convenient pop-up window, ordered by usage.
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Scott_S said:
That doesn't make any difference I don't think. Recent apps is just a list of those same program icons listed in a convenient pop-up window, ordered by usage.
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Could be not sure. It's just the way I do it and always works for me.
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Carlrobling said:
Could be not sure. It's just the way I do it and always works for me.
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Whatever your preference, I was just mentioning I don't think there's any functional difference that would make one way any more effective than the other.
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Scott_S said:
Whatever your preference, I was just mentioning I don't think there's any functional difference that would make one way any more effective than the other.
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I agree it probably doesn't matter which way. Could just be the app he is using. Some apps are set up to shut down with the back button and/or the home key. So at this point if either of those don't work then I'm out of ideas. I do know that android caches the apps you use so they should be saved in there current state. If they are not then maybe try a restart as your memory may be low so android is closing out these apps to compensate. One last question are you using a task killer/manager.

jaw2012 said:
I'm wondering if there is an app that allows true backgrounding or multitasking in Android. In other words, whenever I switch an app and go somewhere else, and then return back to a previous app, I would expect that app to be in the same state as when I left it.
This currently only happens with a few apps, it's hit or miss. So far I haven't found a fix or an app that resolves this issue. Not to create a fight, but the iPhone had background apps that kept apps in memory so that when you returned the app was in the same exact state as when you left it. Thanks all.
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I use Taskswitcher from the market for exactly this on Atrix. Had no problems yet and didn't drain the battery either.
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di11igaf said:
If you hit the back button to exit the app, it will usually exit it- hit the home button and it will background it. Android DOES 100% true multitasking, realize if you run low on ram, the kernel will kill old processes and start killing your oldest used apps as it needs to.
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I understand that Android CAN offer true multitasking, but thats NOT 100% always the case.
As others have said, some apps don't behave for those times when you minimize and not exit the app because you want to return to the app. WatchESPN, TweetCaster, native Android music app, and in-browser streaming video are only a few of the Apps that fail to multitask or "background".
For those instances, it seems Android offers a setting to the developer to either have the app behave in the background for easy multitasking, or it also allows developers to basically kill the app once its in the background, making "True Multitasking" anything but!
So thats why I was hoping there was an app that took this "backgrounding" option out of the apps hands and instead stored all apps into memory that you wanted to be backgrounded. For instance you could background apps either by a hotkey action or you could kill an app so that it doesn't background, this way not all opened apps get backgrounded and use up all system resources.
Anyway, thats what I've been looking for and haven't found an implementation like this. Hopefully I've just overlooked and someone can enlighten me?! Thanks all.

Yea would like to know as well. Blackberry playbook does true multitasking like a PC. Games and youtube video run in backgroud without pausing when we switch.
Havent come across that in android. Maybe i missed it somewhere. I think. Android has task switching' instead of multitasking?
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So you would actually want a video to keep playing when something else had fullscreen focus? That just doesn't make sense. As a developer, I'll tell you that it is certainly possible, but FFS why? Now if I'm listening to music, that makes sense. Run it in the background while I'm looking up stuff on the web or something, but most audio apps DO do that.
It's not a matter of the device being incapable, it's a matter of what's practical.

Gene Poole said:
So you would actually want a video to keep playing when something else had fullscreen focus? That just doesn't make sense. As a developer, I'll tell you that it is certainly possible, but FFS why? Now if I'm listening to music, that makes sense. Run it in the background while I'm looking up stuff on the web or something, but most audio apps DO do that.
It's not a matter of the device being incapable, it's a matter of what's practical.
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I feel that we should be able to run youtube videos / games running in background just like a PC. I mean our phones are as powerful as PCs from few years back. Say I have one tab running email/browsing and other a video. There may be a time where you want to quickly switch to another task/app and move back to watching the video. It may sound impractical but there should be an option to have this.
Else its just 'task switcher' like ios > 4. I like the way BB playbook has TRUE multitasking.
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I may get some flak for this but webos is the shizznit at true multitasking and the way all these companies steel from each other these days and the palm people that went to Google they should implement the card stile multitasking on Android some how. That would be killer. Don't make it look just like webos but something like it.

[Q] Mango 7720: Terminate an application

I can't find a way to close (terminate) an application other than hitting the back button, which can be not only painful but unwanted. In IE9 for example, if I've navigated through several pages in a session, if I want to close IE I have to go all the way back until the application closes, which also means that, next time, unless I go into History, I won't be able to start browsing from where I left.
It seems that is not possible to close an application from the task switcher, which is hard to understand.
Am I missing something?

Nop, it is just like that. It's not a mess like Android, but it would be better if we could close from task switcher, yes.

Since applications do not actively run in the background, there's no need to terminate anything.

dkp1977 said:
Since applications do not actively run in the background, there's no need to terminate anything.
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At least for now. Eventually, every app will come with background support.

mikeeam said:
At least for now. Eventually, every app will come with background support.
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But these are agents which can be setup in the settings. Agents running in the background will never ever appear in the task switcher and will even run when you didn't even start the according app after a reboot.

There is no need to terminate apps because they do not run in the background. Period. What you are seeing in the task switcher is simply a history list of the 5 most recent apps or things you have done, show in a thumbnail view. These apps are not open.
Now to be able to remove cards from the task switcher so you can view other cards in the back stack would be useful, but not available at this time.
If you wanted to 'close' IE', you could simply close each tab you have open. No need to go back through all your web pages.

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Now to be able to remove cards from the task switcher so you can view other cards in the back stack would be useful, but not available at this time.
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Exactly. As it is now, most of the time the task switcher will be useless to me, since it will always be filled with the five most recent apps I have run, whether or not those are the five apps I would like to be able to quickly switch back to. And most of the time, they won't be. I want to be able to a) pin apps to the card stack, and b) "flush" unneeded apps from the card stack.
It's supposed to be a convenience tool, but doesn't strike me as adding much convenience in its current implementation.

RoboDad said:
Exactly. As it is now, most of the time the task switcher will be useless to me, since it will always be filled with the five most recent apps I have run, whether or not those are the five apps I would like to be able to quickly switch back to. And most of the time, they won't be. I want to be able to a) pin apps to the card stack, and b) "flush" unneeded apps from the card stack.
It's supposed to be a convenience tool, but doesn't strike me as adding much convenience in its current implementation.
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I'm assuming it was built this way to accommodate the most common multitasking scenarios, of course that doesn't suit everyone, but I'm sure it'll work just fine for the majority of people.
When thought of from that perspective, 5 cards is more than enough for the majority. Maybe even too much.

Ok, let me see if I understand:
If I'm in IE9 and hit the windows button, IE9 will no longer be using resources. So each application in the foreground is sort of "running alone". Is that right?

octaedro7 said:
Ok, let me see if I understand:
If I'm in IE9 and hit the windows button, IE9 will no longer be using resources. So each application in the foreground is sort of "running alone". Is that right?
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Yes.
With mango there might be background agents running, but they are restricted in what they can do and what resources they can take up. So the answer will still be yes.

Multitasking question?????

I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...

ronclone said:
I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...
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Yes,this is a design inconsistency.I have mentioned in another thread...if you use windows button to exit an app,then the next time you open it,you will need to relaunh the app again. Unless,you long pres back button in order to let the app go into multitask mode. Then you only press windows button. If not, the system won't memorize the app. Windows button is simply cancel everything off.
This situation same goes to the live tiles, if you use windows button to exit an app,the live tiles will never update. However, if you use back button,the live tiles will be updated,you can try this by using network dashboard or any live tiles apps.
Please fix the Windows/home button command and functionality,it is just a shame....

To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?

cgibsong002 said:
To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?
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I have no idea with angry birds,but other games yes...even if you long press the back button,it will just relaunch the game,maybe they haven't update the app to mango compatible.
However, IMHO, Microsoft really have to fix the windows/home button command ot functionality,to make it adapt to the fast app switching,multitask/resume and the live tiles.

Yes... Angry birds has not been updated...
And it just seems weird to me that an app thats saved in memory have to start again... I would think its not that hard to fix this....

Ok.. update on my own thoughts. Maybe I'm thinking of something different than you guys, but here's what I found.
I remembered the game 'Penguins' updated right after mango. I tried this out with that game. In the middle of a game, I can pause, hit the windows button, do whatever I want on the phone, then using the multitask menu go back into the game, and I'm back in the game at the pause screen. Alternatively, I can hit the windows button without even pausing it, and I can later resume the game. It appears there's no issue with the software, it's just a matter of how the programmers write the apps. Again, I could be missing the idea here, but I think this is what you guys were talking about

I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.

elcapo24682 said:
I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.
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Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.

You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.

RoboDad said:
You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.
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Yea, I know, I have read some posts at the Nokia device specs out thread talking about this guy.
Troll almost everywhere.

sylau90 said:
Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.
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check tweets from the Me tile, it's really fast. its impossible for an app to remember the last state it was in unless u have a bg agent. its not that hard to use the back button. first people complain /criticize for no multitasking now there's complain/criticize over how its implemented. get a grip.

I agree with the OP. It sucks so bad. I'm no troll, but it takes me much longer to hold the back button and find the instance instead just press windows and first tile.
I'm not even mentioning the problems I'm having with my keyboard auto hiding while i'm typing, and the problem with auto correction in third party apps. Whenever I have an special character, it doesnt overwrite the whole word to correct it. "blahblaç" turns into "blahblaçblahblah". Genious.
Oh, and yeah, you cant use toast notifications! If you use it to redirect to your whatsapp message, it will reload the whole app instead resuming it.
Whats the point of implementing multitasking and turning it so ****ing difficult to use?

Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.

ronclone said:
Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.
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Guess we are alone with this. No one seems to care about how MS implemented it. As long they can use it somehow.